Will you be attending the Save the Wests Tigers March?

[Tucker]

Lies. Show me where I argued in favour of HBG

It wasn’t arguing in favour. It was attacking the people who held the opinion saying WA/HBG are no good.
It’s what posters like you do.
You haven’t engaged in anyway with me about this except to try and belittle me personally for what I said. Others argue their point rather than attacking the poster personally.
It’s what you do.

 

[innsaneink]

The funding keeps the Balmain junior reps alive, do you not understand that ?
You better than anyone should understand how important it is for the Balmain junior reps to continue.
But you want to totally remove the same people that find the teams you support and enjoy watching play each season.
Yes you can be unhappy with a lot of decisions they make, but to say they don’t care, don’t do anything to help and need to be removed without being given an opportunity to make better decisions and do things better is harsh when you know they do things that are help and are in the best interests of Wests Tigers such as funding the Balmain junior reps.

We want the governance system changed....dont change the narrative to suit your agenda
Jesus im running out of spak-filla mending all the holes in your overnight posts

 

[Tucker]

I think of it as if our 7 best players leave then it won’t matter who coaches us

Firstly I think that story is likely over emotional BS, however if it is true, then see ya later boys….do we really want a squad whose leaders are on the verge of walking whenever they don’t agree with a management decision?
That’s holding the club to ransom and it would surely create a toxic split in the group.

 

[king_sirro]

It wasn’t arguing in favour. It was attacking the people who held the opinion saying WA/HBG are no good.
It’s what posters like you do.
You haven’t engaged in anyway with me about this except to try and belittle me personally for what I said. Others argue their point rather than attacking the poster personally.
It’s what you do.

So which is it, i argued against HBG being no good, or I haven't engaged in it? Make up your mind.

I can promise you one thing, you wont find one post where I attack anyone against HBG....why would I? Im against them too

 

[Tucker]

We want the governance system changed....dont change the narrative to suit your agenda
Jesus im running out of spak-filla mending all the holes in your overnight posts

Some do, but many are calling for a complete reset. If you read through the thread, people are clearly stating what they want, and that aligns with what those interviewed yesterday were saying as well.

My understanding was that the original objective was to remove the debenture system and give club members voting rights for Wests Tigers board positions, so directors are genuinely accountable to the membership.

 

[cochise]

Some do, but many are calling for a complete reset. If you read through the thread, people are clearly stating what they want, and that aligns with what those interviewed yesterday were saying as well.

My understanding was that the original objective was to remove the debenture system and give club members voting rights for Wests Tigers board positions, so directors are genuinely accountable to the membership.

Well your understanding is wrong.

 

[Bus 2 Terrigal]

Exactly except D heads like the one you responded to just don't get, the foundations are dead, they just have to hang onto the extinct clubs, bloody ridiculous narrow mindlessness.

Tell that to the dozen blokes who attended the Unite Wests Tigers rally wearing Balmain Phillips jerseys. And a big shout out to Darcy’s designated club legend Blocker Roach 🥴

 

[Telltails]

In answer to your first question, because they have a 90 percent ownership in Wests Tigers.

I can't answer the 2nd part of the question because I'm not privy to all the facts.

In terms of Tony Crawford, I don't query his credentials, it's just my opinion that, as a board member of a club that has aspirations of returning to the NRL he should have removed or recused himself from taking part in the review. Gary Barnier's controversy in health care matters was well recorded by the media, I think, around 2017. It's just my view, he was a bad choice given what was reported about his management back then. Appointing someone else to do the review may have resulted in the same outcomes.

It's merely my opinion that independent directors in a foot club where there are two owners is a recipe for disaster.

As for performance on the field, blaming HGB is subjective.

How long are you prepared to tolerate it Kev.We historically have been the worst run club in the NRL -

The one year when we have an independent board and make a profit - HBG uses its power and sacks the independents on the board while retaining their own reps.

Why?

Shouldn't all fans be concerned about governance that treats success in that manner?
And if not - why should we keep blindly supporting them.

Blind loyalty due to emotional attachment is not a recipe for success. And as fans if we are not aiming for success what is the point?

Hence why we have been a no go area for elite players and as soon as we claw back a little credibility - our owners use control to keep us in our place.

 

[Chunk]

$1.5-1.7M is not funding an NRL team. Merch sales would bring in more, especially if we were successful.

Compared to $6/7M for other clubs? They could afford more?

 

[Chunk]

If we are successful on the field and making a $3m profit like this year, then obviously we can

That included $1.8M from PNG grant?

 

[Tucker]

Well your understanding is wrong.

I don’t include you in that assessment. You are in the group that want them gone. That’s why you’ve been so bullish about this and were instrumental in organising that embarrassing ‘rally’ yesterday.
Thanks for making the fan group as a whole a laughing stock again….

 

[Tom Shines]

How long are you prepared to tolerate it Kev.We historically have been the worst run club in the NRL -

I can’t speak specifically for Kev…as I haven’t read enough of his posts yet …however some of these other Magpie blokes will tolerate it indefinitely… because the next best thing to having their old team back in the NRL is seeing the Wests Tigers ran into the ground ..

 

[cochise]

I don’t include you in that assessment. You are in the group that want them gone. That’s why you’ve been so bullish about this and were instrumental in organising that embarrassing ‘rally’ yesterday.
Thanks for making the fan group as a whole a laughing stock again….

Mate the HBG has done that and had been doing continuously for years.

 

[innsaneink]

Why would they brand it Wests Tigers if they are bringing back the magpies though?

Dont go...LOL

Only you have said it'd be branded Wests Tigers
I heard some time back it would be "Wests Balmain"...in line with Wests Ashfield etc
Dunno how accurate that was tho

But I guess a WTLC would be more appealing and profitable

 

[twentyforty]

Waiting with baited bread for that reply lol

It’s not happening mate.
I scanned the news headlines with my morning coffee..Storm are setting up a bold new pathways plan set to rock the NRL.
While the Eels have the whole club of 150 players all training together.
We’re about 8 weeks out from our first trial with Tigers playing musical chairs.

 

[TigerJunior4]

This is the war Leo Epifania mentioned in yesterdays SMH



From another magpie director....this is directed at us all


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What an absolute flog.

 

[innsaneink]

Im having another dig at this after mulling it over. This individual has no self awareness. Right at the beginning of his rant he talks about credibility and immediately loses any he has by misquoting the reason for the rally and the attendance numbers.
He talks about the rally being divisive and then rants about magpies this and magpies that.
Ok, I understand that nostalgic Wests supporters might see an area as 'holy', a significant part of their heritage. But instead of talking as if Wests Tigers were desecrating that area, he could instead have celebrated the fact that Wests Tigers supporters had chosen that place to make their stand. He didn't choose to support the Wests side of the joint venture, he chose divisiveness.
This rant is all about one persons sad, nostalgic, divisive view. Pathetic really, after 25 years.

I think this will come back to bite him
This stuff doesnt go away

 

[crazycat]

We want the governance system changed....dont change the narrative to suit your agenda
Jesus im running out of spak-filla mending all the holes in your overnight posts

I am going to defend Vicious here, I don't agree with him. But his arguments aren't swiss cheese.
"
The funding keeps the Balmain junior reps alive, do you not understand that ?
You better than anyone should understand how important it is for the Balmain junior reps to continue.
But you want to totally remove the same people that find the teams you support and enjoy watching play each season.
Yes you can be unhappy with a lot of decisions they make, but to say they don’t care, don’t do anything to help and need to be removed without being given an opportunity to make better decisions and do things better is harsh when you know they do things that are help and are in the best interests of Wests Tigers such as funding the Balmain junior reps." Vicious.

So HBG gives funding to the Wests Tigers. Were a NRL club and we need $$$.

I am pretty sure Vicious means "Fund the teams", I find makes no sense unless Burgess has Altzheimers...*

The core argument HBG care. They could easily say "it's in Wests Ashfield's interest to expand further into Ashfield". Yes they are non for profit but they don't have to spend their money on the Wests Tigers. HBG spend a lot of money on this club and they could turn away.

I do agree with Vicious, HBG 'care'.


My take is this:
HBG don't care about Campbelltown. I said it before I will say it again. The biggest decision this board took was expanding Campbelltown stadium. This is being interprited as a Magpies Vs Balmain fight and I don't believe it is that. I believe it is HBG wanting to keep the Tigers closer to Ashfield, we just saw recent upgrades to our club facilities and I believe this whole mess is over the 50 Million for Campbelltown stadium.

HBG and Wests Ashfield may feel it's not in their clubs interests to expand south to C'town. They haven't said this, they are feeding us BS. It's an arugment that would make sense to me**.


Now I don't agree with Vicious. I think Dennis Burgess needs to be reprimanded over all of this. I would love it if PVL went in and said "Dennis must step down as a Director for 5 years". Yet PVL heard both sides, reinstated the directors and gave HBG more board representation??? PVL should have slammed the hammer but I suspect he did not because of similar arguments Vicious is making.


*maybe this makes sense. "OMG there is a Balmain team in our club again, where did they come from... Wah"..

**I believe it is in the wests Tigers interest to establish themselves in that area and ensure were the feeder club for the southern highlands. I am saying this may not serve the interests of Wests Ashfield.

 

[innsaneink]

Some do, but many are calling for a complete reset. If you read through the thread, people are clearly stating what they want, and that aligns with what those interviewed yesterday were saying as well.

My understanding was that the original objective was to remove the debenture system and give club members voting rights for Wests Tigers board positions, so directors are genuinely accountable to the membership.

I agree many mixed messages about the whole issue with
everyone giving their two bobs worth...maybe this Wests Tigers Unite
will help consolidate and focus on whats wanted

I am going to defend Vicious here, I don't agree with him. But his arguments aren't swiss cheese.
"
The funding keeps the Balmain junior reps alive, do you not understand that ?
You better than anyone should understand how important it is for the Balmain junior reps to continue.
But you want to totally remove the same people that find the teams you support and enjoy watching play each season.
Yes you can be unhappy with a lot of decisions they make, but to say they don’t care, don’t do anything to help and need to be removed without being given an opportunity to make better decisions and do things better is harsh when you know they do things that are help and are in the best interests of Wests Tigers such as funding the Balmain junior reps." Vicious.

So HBG gives funding to the Wests Tigers. Were a NRL club and we need $$$.

I am pretty sure Vicious means "Fund the teams", I find makes no sense unless Burgess has Altzheimers...*

The core argument HBG care. They could easily say "it's in Wests Ashfield's interest to expand further into Ashfield". Yes they are non for profit but they don't have to spend their money on the Wests Tigers. HBG spend a lot of money on this club and they could turn away.

I do agree with Vicious, HBG 'care'.


My take is this:
HBG don't care about Campbelltown. I said it before I will say it again. The biggest decision this board took was expanding Campbelltown stadium. This is being interprited as a Magpies Vs Balmain fight and I don't believe it is that. I believe it is HBG wanting to keep the Tigers closer to Ashfield, we just saw recent upgrades to our club facilities and I believe this whole mess is over the 50 Million for Campbelltown stadium.

HBG and Wests Ashfield may feel it's not in their clubs interests to expand south to C'town. They haven't said this, they are feeding us BS. It's an arugment that would make sense to me**.


Now I don't agree with Vicious. I think Dennis Burgess needs to be reprimanded over all of this. I would love it if PVL went in and said "Dennis must step down as a Director for 5 years". Yet PVL heard both sides, reinstated the directors and gave HBG more board representation??? PVL should have slammed the hammer but I suspect he did not because of similar arguments Vicious is making.


*maybe this makes sense. "OMG there is a Balmain team in our club again, where did they come from... Wah"..

**I believe it is in the wests Tigers interest to establish themselves in that area and ensure were the feeder club for the southern highlands. I am saying this may not serve the interests of Wests Ashfield.

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HBG took on Balmains debt which includes looking after the juniors, its what leagues clubs do

 

[Vicious]

I agree many mixed messages about the whole issue with
everyone giving their two bobs worth...maybe this Wests Tigers Unite
will help consolidate and focus on whats wanted

Sorry....it doesnt make sense. The formatting is very difficult to follow

HBG took on Balmains debt which includes looking after the juniors, its what leagues clubs do

If Wests Leagues wanted to deliberately run Wests Tigers into the ground like so many people want to believe, why would they be funding Balmain ?
Once again the Balmain junior reps are an extremely important pathway to Wests Tigers, but Wests Leagues are not obliged to fund it if they really don’t care like many want to believe.
The junior reps are an extremely important function of Wests Tigers and for some supporters to not be aware and simply say get rid of the Magpies and Balmain is naively only looking or caring about the NRL team.