wstigers11
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Are they doing the same thing with Bula? Bula’s manager before Isaac now works at the dogs
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Can someone explain to me what 1. Players option &
2. Clubs option
actually mean in Bula’s case ?
I thought if the club wants to keep Bula they take the option and pay him the stated amount.
If the club doesn’t want him and Bula gets no interest from another club offering more money than HIS option with us, he can take up the players option and he stays at this club.
Am I anywhere near how it works ?
2. Clubs option
actually mean in Bula’s case ?
I thought if the club wants to keep Bula they take the option and pay him the stated amount.
If the club doesn’t want him and Bula gets no interest from another club offering more money than HIS option with us, he can take up the players option and he stays at this club.
Am I anywhere near how it works ?
Carefactor
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DaSilva was the only loss i would consider as a negative.
Rock Hopper Steve
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More of a potential negative, still has a long way to go to be a good 80-minute hooker.
Tiger Tarl
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Both options are for 2027. Reportedly, the deadline is May. If we take it up, we will pay ~$900k for 2027. If we don't, he can take up his offer for ~$800k for 2027. Either way, his new manager (I Moses) won't get any commission from it. Thus, both parties negotiating a new long-term deal that benefits everyone involved.
Obviously and for an extra million dollars per season you would hope that is the case,
The statement I made is that Luai’s overall form in 2025 was no better than what someone like Jock Madden can produce, so you would hope and expect to see much better from Luai in 2026.
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Good young player, but not even close to a genuine 600k per season number 9 just yet.
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Dragons can't sign him until we officially inform him we do not wish to take up our option.
wstigers11
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We’ve done that already
I've had this discussion already but I believe they are each a loss for different reasons and none that we replaced last year and in some cases still haven't.
That first statement does not mean I think we should have paid them more than what was already reportedly offered to try to keep them. It does not mean that I don't think some of them likely had attitudes/conflicts meaning keeping them was untenable. Simply that they had a skillset that was not replaced and our side would have been better with their talent still being at the club.
Jedi_Tiger
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Haywood is better than DaSilva
No we haven't (or at least not that I'm aware of). Saying we would prefer to negotiate a longer contract is not rejection of the clause.
wstigers11
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Media are saying he’s a free agent
He’s packed some size on this pre season looks great
I thought Luai started to find his spots better in the last 6-8 weeks because his game was simplified mixed with a quality / target center being outside him.
If Benji and Luai keep things in that structure for him he will be fine.
Free to negotiate. Unless the clause has been officially rejected he is not free to sign.
As of Nov 1 he was allowed to discuss contracts with everyone. Rightly so, why would he take his option without considering other options. But he is not free to sign as if we take up our option it predates any new offers.
And you know this because of Flegg?
You realise Da Silva was dominant in lower grades as well. There’s no guarantee Haywood will even make first grade
Jedi_Tiger
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he will
either at tigers or something other club.
His career will be better than Da Silva's, he is no loss
V you cant be serious. no doubt JL did not peform as expected but if we are running out with Madden at half we are in big trouble. ... I don think you can compare those 2 players in any way
Thats what they say me reckons Gus knew he had him after all the BS he said on TV . I said it the minute he said it. He knew exactly where Galvin was going . Bula to join him next.
Jolls
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While I respect you point of view, Luai has proven that, in the right system, he is elite. The issue we have is that we haven't created the environment for a "Luai" to perform.
If we hark back to the 05 Wests Tigers, we were playing a different brand of footy to the rest of the competion, under a coach that was anything but conventional.
We are now coming off a low base with a coach, that despite his razzle dazzle, is more about creating the environment that allows players to excel as opposed than establishing a system to make them shine.
This is both good and bad. Good in that we are not tied to conventional thinking; bad in that when we get it wrong we get it wrong badly.
Benji may be inexperienced as a FG coach, but he has already won the first battle (if we believe what the players say) in that there is belief in the system and where we are headed. As long as he has that buy in, I think we are on the right track. My assessment, and it may well be wrong, is that Benji is allowing the team to execute, within guidelines, how it sees fit. This is a brave move, because he is handing over execution based on intent.
He has tenure now, and that is a bad thing in my book, because he is less likely to be held to account. HBG shit knee jerk decision to extend him? Probably, but a subject for a different conversation and thread.
So why is it both good and bad? It is good because the players know what they are to achieve, the understand the end goal, and are given the tools to do so without being given a prescriptive method. As a player this is the ultimate freedom. The bad is, that given the the intent, there has to be an allowance for them to achieve it based on what they see on the paddock, and while they are learning that, there is an expectation that they will fail/firetruck up. This has to be accepted - it is part of the learning curve
It takes time to get it right and you have to have trust and give lattitude to allow mistakes to be made as the system is developed. You also have to be able to, as a coach, divorce yourself from the on field decisions made and provide an open learning environment for everyone involved in the post game review.
I personally believe that Benji is on the right track. He has the right mix of young and expereinced players to have a real crack at the title. Will it happen in 2026? I doubt it - we are missing some expereince in key areas. However, I would not be surprised if Benji unearths a talent no one was looking at - simply because he is a different sort of cat.
So getting back to the start - we are in a process of evolution at the club. Success is not set in stone and we could easily turn to a puddle of poo; however, we have an unconventional coach and a malleable team.
I think we had something similar in 2005. I am not suggesting that we wil win the competion in 2026; but, I do think we need to step back and reflect on the signifcant changes that guys like Luai faced in changing clubs and coaching styles.
There is no free pass for Benji in 2026, but I expect that the work done to date will set us up for success.
Big Hairy Audacious Goal - bottom of the 8 in 2026.
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