Adam Doueihi #227

[GNR4LIFE]

The poor kids confidence must have had its clock cleaned. That defensive effort on Iongi was one of the worst of the year.

 

[Tucker]

Why do you think the club keeps throwing young players in, potentially before they are ready?

Some will say it’s out of necessity but I think that’s a bit lazy. If you set up your top 30 properly, you shouldn’t have to.
I honestly think we…the Royal we…totally over rate our juniors coming through. Most end up on huge salaries due to showing good promise in a couple of games - take Maka. Over rated to the moon, he stars in a trial game and we throw the keys to him. He then plays like dogshit all year and now we question this decision. Truth is he never received any proper preparation for NRL.
Just because you are physically ready doesn’t mean you are mentally or skillwise ready. We fail that lesson over and over and over again.
Honestly…if we employed some sort of draconian rule like “no NRL until you turn 23”, we’d be better off.

 

[Tucker]

Galvin benefited from being in the NRL to showcase his skills for other clubs. It was Marshall who gave him the freedom to showcase his skills. I am sure Da Silva did not mind playing in the NRL as it also allowed him also to showcase his skills. The club chose not to match the Eels' offer for Da Silva and to develop Haywood instead. That is what is happening now Tucker so continually hitting the club over the head for doing the right thing is wrong. No doubt Da Silva's manager appreciated the club's decision to release him to the Eels.

Galvin showed last night how stunted his development has been.
At one stage he stood up and took the game by the scruff of the neck and lead his side to a good lead, then backed off and lost the game. He doesn’t know how to close out a game still.
Likewise TDS plays well and poorly in the same game regularly.

We don’t do the right thing. We do the easy thing. The right thing would be preparing these boys for the grind and pressure of the NRL. An incremental climb through the grades does more for their development then appeasing their entitled views that they can handle it.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Galvin showed last night how stunted his development has been.
At one stage he stood up and took the game by the scruff of the neck and lead his side to a good lead, then backed off and lost the game. He doesn’t know how to close out a game still.
Likewise TDS plays well and poorly in the same game regularly.

We don’t do the right thing. We do the easy thing. The right thing would be preparing these boys for the grind and pressure of the NRL. An incremental climb through the grades does more for their development then appeasing their entitled views that they can handle it.

Gould has been reported in the media as saying Galvin is "Not a long-term 7", yet he plays in that position. How you can apportion that loss to WTs has me puzzled. Marshall played him at 6 and allowed him to showcase his talent enough that he reportedly had multiple clubs interested in him. Seems his development was fine then.

Learning to be consistent is part of the development of a NRL player. Young players make mistakes and this again is part of development. Both the Bulldogs and Eels signed both players to reportedly very good contracts aware this was part of their development.

 

[Telltails]

Gould has been reported in the media as saying Galvin is "Not a long-term 7", yet he plays in that position. How you can apportion that loss to WTs has me puzzled. Marshall played him at 6 and allowed him to showcase his talent enough that he reportedly had multiple clubs interested in him. Seems his development was fine then.

Learning to be consistent is part of the development of a NRL player. Young players make mistakes and this again is part of development. Both the Bulldogs and Eels signed both players to reportedly very good contracts aware this was part of their development.

Both slotted into their FG sides - clearly those coaches thought they were ready.

 

[Tucker]

Gould has been reported in the media as saying Galvin is "Not a long-term 7", yet he plays in that position. How you can apportion that loss to WTs has me puzzled. Marshall played him at 6 and allowed him to showcase his talent enough that he reportedly had multiple clubs interested in him. Seems his development was fine then.

Learning to be consistent is part of the development of a NRL player. Young players make mistakes and this again is part of development. Both the Bulldogs and Eels signed both players to reportedly very good contracts aware this was part of their development.

His development was fine with us?
He ran our attack and we got the spoon.

 

[Bones]

His development was fine with us?
He ran our attack and we got the spoon.

He went from Parra outcast to NRL in the space of a few years with us. He has now played more NRL games for the Dogs than he did for us. I don’t know how you could possibly claim our development hurt him in any way, although I do agree with some of your other points.

 

[Tucker]

He went from Parra outcast to NRL in the space of a few years with us. He has now played more NRL games for the Dogs than he did for us. I don’t know how you could possibly claim our development hurt him in any way, although I do agree with some of your other points.

His extremely rapid ascent with us was not warranted in any sense whatsoever. He didn’t earn anything with us and his obvious inexperience manifested in terrible attack resulting in a spoon.
Had our coaching staff had their premature ejaculation under control, he could have served a reasonable apprenticeship, hitting first grade this year far more equipped to handle his role.
We ruined him and Canterbury are still trying to unravel the mess.

 

[Tim Sheens]

Apart from his manager and another entitled client, the last few pages barely relate to Adam, which to me shows that the vast majority are ready to move on from him, particularly so as a half.

One cannot help but wonder how much of a measurably better position WT would be in right now, had Benji not made the decision to think that Doueihi could defy history and be our halfback through the off-season. Reading the team list against Parramatta and seeing him at 7 again after the huge kerfuffle had me feeling the most disillusioned in memory, even upon the third 🥄.

 

[bbobb]

His extremely rapid ascent with us was not warranted in any sense whatsoever. He didn’t earn anything with us and his obvious inexperience manifested in terrible attack resulting in a spoon.
Had our coaching staff had their premature ejaculation under control, he could have served a reasonable apprenticeship, hitting first grade this year far more equipped to handle his role.
We ruined him and Canterbury are still trying to unravel the mess.

I think they’re are in part unraveling their own mess. Galvin publicly said he was a 7 and he could lead the team. There were obvious attempts to get him to the Dogs (secret meetings) and the whole blow up felt orchestrated.
They now have him and I don’t think he has really progressed much since his time with us. Yes, he is probably part of a better setup but his contribution is still questionable including the disruption caused by trying multiple halves partners with him.

 

[Tucker]

I think they’re are in part unraveling their own mess. Galvin publicly said he was a 7 and he could lead the team. There were obvious attempts to get him to the Dogs (secret meetings) and the whole blow up felt orchestrated.
They now have him and I don’t think he has really progressed much since his time with us. Yes, he is probably part of a better setup but his contribution is still questionable including the disruption caused by trying multiple halves partners with him.

Yes they are playing a role, but would he be so entitled to demand the 7 if our club didn’t foster such a mindset originally?
I think not. We let him do whatever he wanted here.

 

[Tucker]

Apart from his manager and another entitled client, the last few pages barely relate to Adam, which to me shows that the vast majority are ready to move on from him, particularly so as a half.

One cannot help but wonder how much of a measurably better position WT would be in right now, had Benji not made the decision to think that Doueihi could defy history and be our halfback through the off-season. Reading the team list against Parramatta and seeing him at 7 again after the huge kerfuffle had me feeling the most disillusioned in memory, even upon the third 🥄.

As a half yes, as a player? No we can’t let him go. He is too effective as a running threat.
One of the very few who tries to win us games regularly.
We have to develop a role for him that suits both parties.

 

[Telltails]

Galvin was never going to be at WTs longer than he was without his manager agitating for another release - it wasn't the first time. No interest in playing for a struggling club and the Dogs in their great wisdom slotted him straight into his favoured position at the expense of what was working for them - top 2 position - and we all witnessed what happened.

All it did was put immense pressure on him divided their supporter base - not a fan base you want to put a young player on the bad side of - and had the media watching every move he made.
So the Bulldogs/ Gus Gould's "best young player he has ever seen" - no pressure there - pulled him out of the frying pan and threw him into the fire.

 

[Bones]

His extremely rapid ascent with us was not warranted in any sense whatsoever. He didn’t earn anything with us and his obvious inexperience manifested in terrible attack resulting in a spoon.
Had our coaching staff had their premature ejaculation under control, he could have served a reasonable apprenticeship, hitting first grade this year far more equipped to handle his role.
We ruined him and Canterbury are still trying to unravel the mess.

The last part doesn’t make any sense though. If that were the case why hasn’t he been dropped back to cup at the Dogs? Instead he’s played every game while they’ve rotated half the club through as his halves partner. That doesn’t sound like they’re undoing our mess.

I’m sure I don’t need to remind you we had won 2 consecutive spoons before Lachie came along. We also had his family demanding he starts or they wanted a release.

I agree we put young guys in far too early. We’ve created this problem where guys expect to be starting NRL players by 19 and if they aren’t they kick up a stink and leave. It’s been created by having such a weak squad for so long that we don’t have any better options.