Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

Vicious said:
You don’t get it, no defence will be good enough without speed and attacking ability that can stretch and worry the opposing defence.
It’s no longer the 1930’s where team full of grinders can consistently win games.
The best form of defence is attack, in case you haven’t noticed that’s the style of play that is getting decent results as proven in the 2026 season by both the Knights and Dolphins.
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The Knights grinded their way to a grand final on the back of their defence.
 
Vicious said:
I’d sat the video footage is the starting point to determine if there is interest.
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batboy said:
I Don't need to
- I noticed you deflect to other players I didn't mention rather than checking your stats?
(There's a shock)

By the Ramble above - We're assuming Schiller is such a player for you?
Again, His history is hardly enough to make such assumptions.

Show me a decent sample size of Schiller playing top grade at Centre.
Actually, You can't - So don't bother with that...
Or replying with a ramble that heads on a totally different tangent.

I'm not alone in recognising you don't know your arse from your elbow.
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Show me a sample of the likes of Cody Walker, and Jahrome Hughes etc playing NRL before the age of 24.
Plenty of good quality players spend quite a bit of tine playing Reserve Grade stuck behind some very good players in their same position before they end up getting regular NRL opportunities.
When talking about signing fringe players, there is not a lot of options that have previously played 1 or 2 good quality NRL games and are not ready for the old age pension, so common sense would tell you if you can get players that have previously shown they are capable at NRL level and are still only in their mid 20’s or younger, they are very shrewd depth signings.
Based on your theory of signing no depth players, we end up with the same results we did in 2026, do you like losing?
 
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mtd#2 said:
The Knights grinded their way to a grand final on the back of their defence.
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Only on the finals.
They got tj the finals on the back of their attack.
Does that sound familiar?
You will find the Wests Tigers 2095 Premiership winning team was similarly very attack minded and their defence clicked on the finals.
Defence is a mindset and when a team is highly confident good effort when defending will likely lead to points down the other end, the defence generally improves because of it.
On the flip side when a team is defending well week after week, but not getting rewarded with any points down the other end, the defensive resolve ends up fading and they start leaking points, does that sound familiar?
Not only the capability of scoring points, but just the capability of making line breaks hurts the opposing teams attack as they are zapping energy and losing field position every time they defend a long line break.
 
Vicious said:
Check your facts.
I am talking about his whole career, not just one injury riddled season.
What are you arguing about, are you happy with Patrick Herbert and Tino Tavana as our first players called up for our right sided outside backs?
Surely you want someone better who has the physical attributes to threaten and worry decent to good opposition at NRL level?
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Schiller I watch alot at the Raiders he's better than Tavana and Herbert he's an upgrade for the team but not a superstar that some people want he's reminds me a little like a Jason Moodie solid good player we go good at the Tiger's
 
Odessa said:
Schiller I watch alot at the Raiders he's better than Tavana and Herbert he's an upgrade for the team but not a superstar that some people want he's reminds me a little like a Jason Moodie solid good player we go good at the Tiger's
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Exactly.
Some of our supporters expect superstars as fringe players, obviously not understanding there is a Salary Cap to work with and not understanding the need for speed and line breaking ability within our team.
 
Vicious said:
Show me a sample of the likes of Cody Walker, and Jahrome Hughes etc playing NRL before the age of 24.
Plenty of good quality players spend quite a bit of tine playing Reserve Grade stuck behind some very good players in their same position before they end up getting regular NRL opportunities.
When talking about signing fringe players, there is not a lot of options that have previously played 1 or 2 good quality NRL games and are not ready for the old age pension, so common sense would tell you if you can get players that have previously shown they are capable at NRL level and are still only in their mid 20’s or younger, they are very shrewd depth signings.
Based on your theory of signing no depth players, we end up with the same results we did in 2026, do you like losing?
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And there he goes, set your watch to it.

Ask him to clarify NRL experience at centre for James Schiller and get a summary on Cody Walker and Jahrome Hughes (and a heap of other ramblings)

You talk shit, get called out in it - just own it man, will help you look less stupid.
 
Vicious said:
Exactly.
Some of our supporters expect superstars as fringe players, obviously not understanding there is a Salary Cap to work with and not understanding the need for speed and line breaking ability within our team.
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News Flash Super Coach

Replacing reserve graders with other reserve graders doesn't help win NRL Games.
Don't talk about winning - You've got zero idea on how that happens.
 
Vicious said:
You don’t get it, no defence will be good enough without speed and attacking ability that can stretch and worry the opposing defence.
It’s no longer the 1930’s where team full of grinders can consistently win games.
The best form of defence is attack, in case you haven’t noticed that’s the style of play that is getting decent results as proven in the 2026 season by both the Knights and Dolphins.
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Your facts again shoot you in the foot

Two of the 5 highest scoring games in NRL history are from the 1930s
 
Vicious said:
Only on the finals.
They got tj the finals on the back of their attack.
Does that sound familiar?
You will find the Wests Tigers 2095 Premiership winning team was similarly very attack minded and their defence clicked on the finals.
Defence is a mindset and when a team is highly confident good effort when defending will likely lead to points down the other end, the defence generally improves because of it.
On the flip side when a team is defending well week after week, but not getting rewarded with any points down the other end, the defensive resolve ends up fading and they start leaking points, does that sound familiar?
Not only the capability of scoring points, but just the capability of making line breaks hurts the opposing teams attack as they are zapping energy and losing field position every time they defend a long line break.
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Its a short sighted strategy.
05 tigers failed miserably the following years. As did the cowboys after their premiership.
 
GNR4LIFE said:
At best, Schiller would be a like for like for Skelton.
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I think he’s a good depth signing . I don’t get the issue at all . The starting lineup is all but set re. Bula Masi may averillo turuva . Whether you agree or not . Then it’s by my reckoning mason/new kid from dogs/attard , tavana Saukuru Herbert Schiller . I don’t really get what the argument is about to be honest
 
mtd#2 said:
You also cant access it till you are like 65 or something.. I am sure blokes in their 20s much prefer it in their own pocket
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The argument being do they need all of it, a smart head would put surplus away for the future, resulting in less tax going to the government.

Surely the players manager would be advising this, earning his take out.
 
Lestronge said:
I think he’s a good depth signing . I don’t get the issue at all . The starting lineup is all but set re. Bula Masi may averillo turuva . Whether you agree or not . Then it’s by my reckoning mason/new kid from dogs/attard , tavana Saukuru Herbert Schiller . I don’t really get what the argument is about to be honest
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No one’s arguing.
 
GNR4LIFE said:
At best, Schiller would be a like for like for Skelton.
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I havent seen Much of Schiller lately, last couple a years I think...I rememeber watching him when he hit first grade and thinking he seemed pretty good, not sure on his defense but then Skeltons defense wasnt the best either
What we lose in Skeltons set starts and brute force running the ball I guess we gain in Schillers speed, which is an area weve really lacked for long time
 
innsaneink said:
I havent seen Much of Schiller lately, last couple a years I think...I rememeber watching him when he hit first grade and thinking he seemed pretty good, not sure on his defense but then Skeltons defense wasnt the best either
What we lose in Skeltons set starts and brute force running the ball I guess we gain in Schillers speed, which is an area weve really lacked for long time
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Need some pace out wide. Need to get the ball out there first and stop it dying with the halves.
 
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