Lachlan Galvin #277

Kelce68 said:
Yes.

An 18 year old will not be selected in the halves for first grade because they play 1 or 2 decent trial matches.

These decisions are far more important than something as flippant as a good game or two against B-grade 'firsts' line-ups.

It is almost so obvious as being blatant that Benji's words were designed as motivation for the younger squad members to keep pushing, but no coach starts a season with an 18 year old debutante, who hasn't played Flegg or Cup, in the halves in the NRL.

I'm super pumped about Galvin's potential, but he will not be picked ahead of Sullivan or Fainu to start the season.

It will not happen.

So let's get back to reality, if at least for a moment.
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Well put
 
innsaneink said:
I really doubt experienced blokes like benji Farah Morris heighno with I'd easily guess 1000+ nrl games experience would even think that let alone suggest it to anyone.
Is he back Training or still in a boot?

It's almost becoming like infatuation
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Remember when the "insiders " that attend training had that kid Matt Johns (not the media guy) as our starting centre a couple of seasons back only for him to disappear, probably into the world of bricklaying or house painting.
The starting halves , barring injury , will be Sezer and Bud.
I can see that from Brisbane.
 
Kelce68 said:
Yes.

An 18 year old will not be selected in the halves for first grade because they play 1 or 2 decent trial matches.

These decisions are far more important than something as flippant as a good game or two against B-grade 'firsts' line-ups.

It is almost so obvious as being blatant that Benji's words were designed as motivation for the younger squad members to keep pushing, but no coach starts a season with an 18 year old debutante, who hasn't played Flegg or Cup, in the halves in the NRL.

I'm super pumped about Galvin's potential, but he will not be picked ahead of Sullivan or Fainu to start the season.

It will not happen.

So let's get back to reality, if at least for a moment.
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You stated 1 or 2 decent trial performances, I stated stand out trial performances, they are very different.
I happen to rate both Sullivan and Latu Fainu very highly, so I would also be somewhat surprised if Lachie Galvin starts the 2024 NRL season ahead of either one of them, but I’m reliably told the recent newspaper article is not BS, it’s a very close call at the moment, pending what happens in the trials.
 
Vicious said:
So if any one of them is a standout in the trials, you don’t want them in the team simply because they are too young ?
I can assure you any player that is a standout in the trials will highly likely be named somewhere in the NRL top 17 come round 2, regardless of age, experience or reputation.
I don’t think Benji is the type of person the promise the squad something he won’t deliver on,
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To stand out in the trials is a good sign------only!
You must not forget they are playing other trialists and hopefuls!
Not a team of battle hardened NRL players---just a sprinkling. Players out of best positions, excessive interchange. Both sides experimenting. That is why they are called trials.
 
I don't understand why this debate is so full on. In fact I don't understand why there is a debate at all. Those who believe he is no chance to start the season are getting very worked up over nothing.

Stop stating your opinion as fact. You all have no idea at all if he will start first game, or if he is a legitimate chance at this point. It's your opinion, not fact, because the only fact we can be sure of is that we all have have no clue about his chances and what Benji is thinking.
 
king_sirro said:
I don't understand why this debate is so full on. In fact I don't understand why there is a debate at all. Those who believe he is no chance to start the season are getting very worked up over nothing.

Stop stating your opinion as fact. You all have no idea at all if he will start first game, or if he is a legitimate chance at this point. It's your opinion, not fact, because the only fact we can be sure of is that we all have have no clue about his chances and what Benji is thinking.
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Might as well shut the forum down. You can believe in your opinion without claiming it as fact.
 
GNR4LIFE said:
Might as well shut the forum down. You can believe in your opinion without claiming it as fact.
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Nothing wrong with having an opinion, nothing wrong with stating it’s not factual either.
This is nothing to do with Lachie Galvin or any other young player, but I can confidently state as a fact that Benji is all about effort and performance at training, translating to effort and performance in games and the players demonstrating this to his satisfaction will more than likely be playing NRL regardless of age, reputation, experience, body shape or anything else.
I am in disbelief at the why any genuine supporter would want if any other way ?
 
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Vicious said:
Nothing wrong with having an opinion, nothing wrong with stating it’s not factual either.
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It kind of goes without saying that 99% of what gets said on this forum is opinion based. No need for disclaimers. It should be implied.
 
Todd Packer said:
Remember when the "insiders " that attend training had that kid Matt Johns (not the media guy) as our starting centre a couple of seasons back only for him to disappear, probably into the world of bricklaying or house painting.
The starting halves , barring injury , will be Sezer and Bud.
I can see that from Brisbane.
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Matheson Johns left to join the Police force. Pretty lazy comment assuming he now a ‘house painter’

Still plays league and represents NSW and Australian Police teams.

Some people just don’t want to commit to NRL full time but doesn’t mean he didn’t have the talent.
 
derekderekson said:
Matheson Johns left to join the Police force. Pretty lazy comment assuming he now a ‘house painter’

Still plays league and represents NSW and Australian Police teams.

Some people just don’t want to commit to NRL full time but doesn’t mean he didn’t have the talent.
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My kid's a cop. I'd be happier if she painted houses. There's more money and nobody shoots at you or throws their used tampons at you.

My point about fanciful predictions stand.
It was ridiculous to have him as the NRL starting centre regardless of whether he went on to be an astronaut.
 
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GNR4LIFE said:
It kind of goes without saying that 99% of what gets said on this forum is opinion based. No need for disclaimers. It should be implied.
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At the end of the day I assume all Wests Tigers supporters on this forum ideally want Wests Tigers to win more games and I assume that’s also the plan of the coaching staff.
My information tells me there has been regular opposed training sessions with NRL probables against NRL possibles which gives a good indication as to where the players are situated, albeit early days.
I am also reliably informed Benji’s coaching methods and ideology are heavily influenced by his time spent as a senior player playing under Wayne Bennett which means team selections will not necessarily be what’s obvious and expected by the masses.
After all the obvious and expected team selections haven’t helped us over the past few seasons.
 
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Todd Packer said:
My kid's a cop. I'd be happier if she painted houses. There's more money and nobody shoots at you or throws their used tampons at you.

My point about fanciful predictions stand.
It was ridiculous to have him as the NRL starting centre regardless of whether he went on to be an astronaut.
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Give your daughter a big thank you for me in doing a job that is an ESSENTIAL service. I admire people who sign up for it and do it.
In todays roller coaster world of drugs, crazies, inadequate sentencing and general upheaval it’s a very tough gig but I for one am most appreciative of the police.
 
king_sirro said:
I don't understand why this debate is so full on. In fact I don't understand why there is a debate at all. Those who believe he is no chance to start the season are getting very worked up over nothing.

Stop stating your opinion as fact. You all have no idea at all if he will start first game, or if he is a legitimate chance at this point. It's your opinion, not fact, because the only fact we can be sure of is that we all have have no clue about his chances and what Benji is thinking.
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So you're annoyed that people didn't add the addendum of 'in my opinion' to every post?

Interesting hill to die on, especially given how innocuous the chat is and how ubiquitous the very thing you're criticising is on every thread on this forum.

That's not even to mention the implied understanding that speculation over future selections is, by definition, non factual, as it has not occurred yet, so any conversation about said future selections is, by default, a speculative, non-factual opinion-based guess.
 
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Vicious said:
You stated 1 or 2 decent trial performances, I stated stand out trial performances, they are very different.
I happen to rate both Sullivan and Latu Fainu very highly, so I would also be somewhat surprised if Lachie Galvin starts the 2024 NRL season ahead of either one of them, but I’m reliably told the recent newspaper article is not BS, it’s a very close call at the moment, pending what happens in the trials.
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Semantics.

Feel free to round up my adjective to meet the modality of yours.

Look mate, I get your point. I just disagree. Pattern recognition tells me this will not be what happens.
 
Todd Packer said:
My kid's a cop. I'd be happier if she painted houses. There's more money and nobody shoots at you or throws their used tampons at you.

My point about fanciful predictions stand.
It was ridiculous to have him as the NRL starting centre regardless of whether he went on to be an astronaut.
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I'd imagine both men and women are throwing used tampons these days? How things change
 
lathami said:
Yes I do, he’s 18 full of achne and no upper body muscle development. His quote in the interview in defence ‘I just get hold of them and wait for someone to help’. #notready.
Heaps of great juniors around other clubs no one’s rushing them through. He didn’t even play 5/8 in Harold matthews. If u ask me Benji is showing his lack of experience hear. Temper the kid by saying we have big plans for you but we are not going to rush it. Simple.
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I think Benji would fully understand the challenges ahead of him.
It took Benji about 5 seasons to learn how to tackle.
 
Vicious said:
At the end of the day I assume all Wests Tigers supporters on this forum ideally want Wests Tigers to win more games and I assume that’s also the plan of the coaching staff.
My information tells me there has been regular opposed training sessions with NRL probables against NRL possibles which gives a good indication as to where the players are situated, albeit early days.
I am also reliably informed Benji’s coaching methods and ideology are heavily influenced by his time spent as a senior player playing under Wayne Bennett which means team selections will not necessarily be what’s obvious and expected by the masses.
After all the obvious and expected team selections haven’t helped us over the past few seasons.
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You sound like my 70 year old father. You get all your news from your friends. If you need information on something, you'll ask a friend. You'll never question them or verify with your own research, because they are your friend, then you spout it around town as "very reliable" or even totally factual.

Who is this friend? What makes him so reliable? Is he just giving you his opinion? Has he spoken to the coaches? How did you verify this information?

I'm sorry to say it to you in this way, but that is why you are getting so much pushback on this. To most on here, it's just sounds like you heard a mates opinion after he watched a training session.
 
Vicious said:
So if any one of them is a standout in the trials, you don’t want them in the team simply because they are too young ?
I can assure you any player that is a standout in the trials will highly likely be named somewhere in the NRL top 17 come round 2, regardless of age, experience or reputation.
I don’t think Benji is the type of person the promise the squad something he won’t deliver on,
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Not at all,

I hate the next big thing discussions whilst they are in the younger grades.

I think most players won't be able to resist reading their own threads

Also

I'm.in no rush to tell roosters etc which of our players to poach.
 
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