Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

gregjm87 said:
I think we are one of the more difficult to predict teams for whether or not we improve next year.
You made some fair points in that our squad is essentially the same plus KPP and the side was very fortunate with injuries this year. So it's entirely possible if we are sitting middle of the pack or worse as far as injuries go we will regress next year. Particularly as I agree there is plenty of reasons to expect more from some of the other lowly ranked teams.
However there is a lot of potential for natural development in individuals across our best 17, Bula, Skelton, Taylan May, all 3 Fainus, Pole. I'm less confident but it is possible that we see more consistency from Toa plus who knows if Doueihi can turn himself into a capable 13 (if that is the plan). Enough individual improve will lead to a significant team improvement. I've more faith in some of the above than others, and I'm certainly not predicting we will suddenly look like top 8 material but next year is not without hope.
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I honestly think the Luai/Fainu/Doueihi problem would be fixed easily if Luai just dug his heels in and had a proper crack at 7. He is still a good player but he was in very bad form both at 7 and 6. He had a disrupted season with galvin overtaking him, then heath mason for a few weeks, then latu, doueihi, and then latu again. He looked his best next to AD understandably playing as a running 6 acting instinctively. AD is the best stable option for the next year to get the boys home in games we should win, luai is probably the one who should be stepping up but is simply not doing enough, and latu's selection at 7 will be good for the future of the club long-term but hurt us short-term in closing out games rather than how sides like the Storm have eased in Jonah Pezet for example.
 
Always fascinates me how a club will cut a player loose for something like this, yet another club will be happy to swoop right in. So for the all the clubs who will show interest, would they not most likely sack the player too? So why is signing a player who has just been sacked for it different? Do clubs just not want players to be caught while they are contracted to them?
 
GNR4LIFE said:
Always fascinates me how a club will cut a player loose for something like this, yet another club will be happy to swoop right in. So for the all the clubs who will show interest, would they not most likely sack the player too? So why is signing a player who has just been sacked for it different? Do clubs just not want players to be caught while they are contracted to them?
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This is more about Politis' big mouth, there is no real need to sack him, a warning would have sufficed, however Uncle Nick wanted to have a go at Souths and the Broncos and now he has been cornered.
 
Tigerstigerstigers said:
pre existing condition at time of signing - wouldn't that disqualify that possibility?
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I think its a bit more of a grey area than that and one that hasn't been explored yet - with physical injuries such as shoulders, knees etc its a bit more cut and dried that an injury existed. How does the Nrl prove that an injury existed from the number of concussions received? Does 1 concussion suggest a pre existing injury or is there a magic number of concussions that defines a definite injury.
 
Radley on a 2 year - 500k deal would be a great result. Would leave another 500-600k for another first grade quality forward.

Concussions aside, he makes our team and forward pack better. We improve defensively and find that ball playing middle we've been missing for years.

8. Terrell May
9. Api Koroisau
10. Fonua Pole
11. Samuel Fainu
12. Pearce-Paul
13. Victor Radley

14. Latu/Doueihi (whoever isn't starting 7)
15. Twal
16. New singing
17. Sione Fainu


Seyfarth, Hunt, Bird, Geyer, Sukkar and Kit for depth
 
Canadian Club said:
Radley on a 2 year - 500k deal would be a great result. Would leave another 500-600k for another first grade quality forward.

Concussions aside, he makes our team and forward pack better. We improve defensively and find that ball playing middle we've been missing for years.

8. Terrell May
9. Api Koroisau
10. Fonua Pole
11. Samuel Fainu
12. Pearce-Paul
13. Victor Radley

14. Latu/Doueihi (whoever isn't starting 7)
15. Twal
16. New singing
17. Sione Fainu


Seyfarth, Hunt, Bird, Geyer, Sukkar and Kit for depth
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Not to get too far ahead of myself, but we already have enough players coming off contract in 2 years. The May’s, two Fainu’s, Bula, Turuva. Don’t need anymore.
 
Tigerstigerstigers said:
pre existing condition at time of signing - wouldn't that disqualify that possibility?
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Head knocks don't count for pre-existing injuries, as there is no way to determine which head knock was the most detrimental. Its also not a definitive diagnosis, just an opinion as its a doctor making a call that the amount is too much (which would basically mean the last head knock they had was the one that ended their career).

So in this case, if Radley got knocked out playing for his new club and they decided that he had to retire, that last head nock would be defined as the career ending injury.

Another example is Dale Finucane who retired due to head knocks. He was medically retired and no salary cap implications for the Sharks, even though he received some/most of his head knocks earlier at the Storm and Dogs.
 
Odessa said:
Wow that's alot was thinking less with head knocks and high tackles
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Radley's Concussion history
Interesting !!


2019513/04/2019HIA NO RETURN19/04/20190
20191124/05/2019HIA24/05/20190
20191124/05/2019HIA CLEARED24/05/20190
2019GF06/10/2019HIA06/10/20190
2019GF06/10/2019HIA CLEARED06/10/20190
2020620/06/2020HIA20/06/20200
2020620/06/2020HIA CLEARED20/06/20200
2021907/05/2021HIA NO RETURN15/05/20210
2022112/03/2022HIA NO RETURN18/03/20220
2022725/04/2022HIA25/04/20220
2022725/04/2022HIA CLEARED25/04/20220
20221601/07/2022HIA LAST 15 MINS16/07/20221
20222104/08/2022HIA04/08/20220
20222104/08/2022HIA CLEARED04/08/20220
20222426/08/2022HIA LAST 15 MINS11/09/20221
2023105/03/2023HIA17/03/20231
2023317/03/2023HIA17/03/20230
2023317/03/2023HIA CLEARED17/03/20230
20232626/08/2023HIA LAST 15 MINS01/09/20230
20241807/07/2024HIA NO RETURN20/07/20241
20242202/08/2024HIA02/08/20240
20242202/08/2024HIA CLEARED02/08/20240
2025106/03/2025HIA NO RETURN21/03/20251
2025321/03/2025HIA21/03/20250
2025321/03/2025HIA CLEARED21/03/20250
2025428/03/2025HIA28/03/20250
2025428/03/2025HIA CLEARED28/03/20250
20251301/06/2025HIA01/06/20250
20251301/06/2025HIA CLEARED01/06/20250
20251514/06/2025HIA NO RETURN12/07/20253

Judiciary record
grade. length
20214RoostersDangerous contact - Other10$1800
20216RoostersHigh tackle - Careless20$1900
202111RoostersHigh tackle - Careless25460
202111RoostersDangerous contact - head/neck11120
202122RoostersDangerous contact - other23315 + 35 = 350
202223RoostersDangerous Contact10$1000
202224RoostersDangerous Contact10$1800
20236RoostersDangerous Contact03000
20238RoostersCareless High Tackle03000
202312RoostersStriking3
202320RoostersDangerous Contact203000
202412RoostersCareless High Tackle101000
202424RoostersDangerous Contact201800
202425RoostersCareless High Tackle203000
2024PFRoostersDangerous Contact203000
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