HBG, Independent Directors Sacked

Rock Hopper Steve said:
I know that a few of you guys cringe at the thought of this thread opening again but we can't let everything go quiet, that's what they want for everyone to forget, nothing to see here.

It needs to be kept fresh in our minds so that we are ready when Wests Tigers Unite finally gets off the ground with hopefully a strategy to force change.

Can you imagine another decade of the same old, I can't it would be just more pain.
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Give us a season of stability, a finals berth, and additional funding commitments for the next 5 years and I will happily focus on the team and not the management. Sad thing is that these guys just cant help themselves.
 
TheEnz said:
Give us a season of stability, a finals berth, and additional funding commitments for the next 5 years and I will happily focus on the team and not the management. Sad thing is that these guys just cant help themselves.
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Unfortunately mate there's a chance that we could have a crack at the top 8 this year, which is good, but I just dread when they come out and try to take credit for it when those who deserve the pat on the back were shafted.

It's just cringe town.
NT_Tiger said:
Simple question. Can someone bring me up to speed? What is the current make up of our board? do we have three independents?
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Crickets mate that's the problem with this mob, too slow and unprofessional, either that or something is brewing in the dark out of sight.
 
Rock Hopper Steve said:
I know that a few of you guys cringe at the thought of this thread opening again but we can't let everything go quiet, that's what they want for everyone to forget, nothing to see here.

It needs to be kept fresh in our minds so that we are ready when Wests Tigers Unite finally gets off the ground with hopefully a strategy to force change.

Can you imagine another decade of the same old, I can't it would be just more pain.
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The thing is steve is things are quiet in clubland at ashfield too....so we are really just re hashing old stuff iver and over
T hus is more to keep other threads free of this stuff...i know it can.overlap at times

I dunno what WTU has in store ...its all gone very quiet which is good just let the players do their stuff without any outside noise
 
innsaneink said:
The thing is steve is things are quiet in clubland at ashfield too....so we are really just re hashing old stuff iver and over
T hus is more to keep other threads free of this stuff...i know it can.overlap at times

I dunno what WTU has in store ...its all gone very quiet which is good just let the players do their stuff without any outside noise
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Thanks for opening it inns, yeah probably will attract a lot of re hash, and probably the thread will go quiet for a while anyway.

Just need it open to be ready for when the time comes, we all deep down want change for the better, the wait isn't helping, hopefully one of the pods will give us some answers soon if there is to be action or we just have to put up with them till the next stuff up.
 
TheEnz said:
my understanding is there will be a HBG and WT board meeting, I believe some time next week, if not later this week. Where they are supposed to announce the plans moving forward, i.e. composition of board and perhaps more details on the CEO role that is currently interim.
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Strategic Plans from HBG
1. Magpie logo make bigger.
2. Dennis to write/sing new team song.
3. More blazers.
 
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TheEnz said:
my understanding is there will be a HBG and WT board meeting, I believe some time next week, if not later this week. Where they are supposed to announce the plans moving forward, i.e. composition of board and perhaps more details on the CEO role that is currently interim.
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February was stated in the O'Farrell Returns statement - WTs board meeting
 
innsaneink said:
Threads unlocked.

Please try and discuss things in a mature, adult way without swearing - disguised or other...lets not get personal with each other
We all know the ootions here if you dont like someones opinion theres the ignore function.
Expect posts to be deleted or edited if the simple requests/rules which we ALL agreed to on signing up here cant be followed

Take it away folks
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Thanks Ink.

Appreciate the opportunity to be able to continue this discussion.
 
We still don't know the following:

Directors:
- Why were the directors sacked?
- Why were the directors reinstated?
- Why haven't HBG shown strong leadership and made a public statement and take ownership of what happened?

Former CEO
- What was the outcome of the investigation into our former CEO?
- Was there even an investigation?
 
mtd#2 said:
We still don't know the following:

Directors:
- Why were the directors sacked?
- Why were the directors reinstated?
- Why haven't HBG shown strong leadership and made a public statement and take ownership of what happened?

Former CEO
- What was the outcome of the investigation into our former CEO?
- Was there even an investigation?
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May not ever know MTD
That’s the problem with these debenture holders, there’s no accountability needed
 
Go_You_Good_Things said:
There is only ONE reason that HBG are in charge of the JV. ONE.
You people seem to only recently discovered the concept of bad club board decisions.
Funny, that. Short memories much ?
You want to know why they want a jersey with more black in it ? Really ? Surely you jest.
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I always jest. You have to enjoy a joke if you're a real Wests Tigers fan. First of all, I played junior rugby league in Campbelltown and grew up a Campbelltown Magpie in the 90s. Tommy Raudonakis lived next door to my dad's best mate at the time in Ruse. Most kids who followed the Magpies in Campbelltown became Wests Tigers fans because why the hell wouldn't you??

Look, I've got nothing against people who want to win, and who want to do everything they can for the club and the fans. Winning is something everyone can agree on. My beef is that what HBG get up to, has nothing to do with wanting to win footy games.

I actually WISH, that HBG was a ruthless winning machine. I'd SUPPORT that. Everyone here would. Man i bloody wished they knew what they were doing. That would actually save us all a lot of time and bring a lot of joy into a lot of peoples lives. Wests Magpies has gone bust basically twice and the JV saved the legacy of that footy club. I was at those last Magpies games. Used to watch them running up the hill when we'd eat at Chillis on Blaxland road. That's mostly how they trained. They didn't have a gym or warm showers. It was a footy club without a pulse. They got hit in the arse by a rainbow with Balmain going bust, and instead of being gracious and just getting on with reality... we've got to put up with this.

Like why 'bail out' Balmain, only to then play all this bitchy political stuff afterwards? Wouldn't the saavy thing be to just let the other mob go bust and then your problems are over? Why bail out something only to undermine it non stop afterwards. It's like they're the footy equivalent of Theon Greyjoy. HBG can't even codify what it is they actually want to achieve, or define would be satisfactory for them culturally and then come to some kind of accord for the greater good. It's part of their culture to always act wounded and aggrieved, only as a pretext to do dumb things that don't even work.

Its more idiotic than nefarious. They can only operate sneakily and through chicanery even though they own 90% of the JV. Losers. They can't even stage a coup without it blowing up in their faces. If you're gonna sabotage the club, can you at least do it successfully?
 
mtd#2 said:
We still don't know the following:

Directors:
- Why were the directors sacked?
- Why were the directors reinstated?
- Why haven't HBG shown strong leadership and made a public statement and take ownership of what happened?

Former CEO
- What was the outcome of the investigation into our former CEO?
- Was there even an investigation?
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It's pretty simple.

HBG couldn't abide an independent Wests Tigers operation. That's the crux of it. It's all there in the Roy Masters article from last month. The article is pretty silly, but the man is indeed a journalist and the facts are all there, even if its spun in a very partisan direction.

They hated the 15 year commitment to Leichhardt. They don't want the club to play games there anymore. They didn't want the club being profitable and self funding, and deciding on its own identity in terms of brand and jerseys. Least of all while still playing at LO. They simply couldn't follow through on allowing the JV to be governed as their own report advised them to do. Or at least advised their predecessors to do before they too all got punted.

But, you know. Denny Burgess gets up every morning and thinks his hair looks great, and that same brilliant reasoning lead him and his cohort to think its a good idea to go with the Nuclear option and sack the board. It was an act of stupidity. They did it because they are idiots. Debenture holders at Wests Ashfield are 220% in favour Wests Magpies only. And they, constitutionally, make up a majority of the HBG board. To become one, you have to be a real, proper, hardcore, member of that club/team. And Im starting to understand that no truly hardcore debenture holder can be seen as wanting the JV to continue to exist. Not with 90% ownership these days. Go read their forums and socials. To paraphrase Napoleon ""He who saves a nation (or footy club) violates no law". Don't be fooled into thinking they aren't that crazy. That's what you're dealing with.

Again, its there Roy's article. The last 3 directors were dismissed from HBG for “not acting as directors" for that org. That's the official reason. Doesn't take much to guess what 'acting' means when you see what their successors at HBG decided to do after they were punted. Why do think their long serving and well regarded CEO quit midway last year?? It's easy for them to doublespeak and say we've 'never discussed bringing back the Magpies' because the real discussion taking place is 'how do we get this JV to implode enough until there is no other option but to bring back the Magpies'.

The directors were re-instated because they were smacked down by PVL and the NRL. Simple as. If the JV goes bust the NRL will say "Thank you very much!!" and give the licence to a new team in another state or in NZ. Good luck to any Sydney team wanting a new NRL Licence.

There wasn't an investigation into Richo. There was an initial probe to validate and see if some whistleblower reports had grounds for an official investigation. (Looks pretty unlikely, because if there were grounds for an investigation, the NRL integrity unit would be mandated to investigate the whistleblower claims whether he resigned or not) His son's company - a legit ad agency - was helping the club with its marketing strategy and there were frivolous accusations about hands in the till from a former employee. I guess our owners hate profits that aren't from gambling.
 
I think board meeting is for Feb
We will get an idea of how things will be once directors are selected to the wests tigers board , how many independents V how many Ashfield people get elected , I feel that Ashfield will do what ever they can to secure overall power regardless off any NRL threats , they won’t want to go back to what we had last year after what they did just recently , Burgess for mine is the snake with a couple mates and they will try anything until the NRL come knocking again , if our team is on the bottom of comp again the nrl will be watching what they do re coaching , CEO etc at tigers level also if players start asking for releases , they will also be watching the Bulla outcome PVL would want Bulla to stay so no more negative media .
Just my rant , no info
 
TIGERS said:
It's pretty simple.

HBG couldn't abide an independent Wests Tigers operation. That's the crux of it. It's all there in the Roy Masters article from last month. The article is pretty silly, but the man is indeed a journalist and the facts are all there, even if its spun in a very partisan direction.

They hated the 15 year commitment to Leichhardt. They don't want the club to play games there anymore. They didn't want the club being profitable and self funding, and deciding on its own identity in terms of brand and jerseys. Least of all while still playing at LO. They simply couldn't follow through on allowing the JV to be governed as their own report advised them to do. Or at least advised their predecessors to do before they too all got punted.

But, you know. Denny Burgess gets up every morning and thinks his hair looks great, and that same brilliant reasoning lead him and his cohort to think its a good idea to go with the Nuclear option and sack the board. It was an act of stupidity. They did it because they are idiots. Debenture holders at Wests Ashfield are 220% in favour Wests Magpies only. And they, constitutionally, make up a majority of the HBG board. To become one, you have to be a real, proper, hardcore, member of that club/team. And Im starting to understand that no truly hardcore debenture holder can be seen as wanting the JV to continue to exist. Not with 90% ownership these days. Go read their forums and socials. To paraphrase Napoleon ""He who saves a nation (or footy club) violates no law". Don't be fooled into thinking they aren't that crazy. That's what you're dealing with.

Again, its there Roy's article. The last 3 directors were dismissed from HBG for “not acting as directors" for that org. That's the official reason. Doesn't take much to guess what 'acting' means when you see what their successors at HBG decided to do after they were punted. Why do think their long serving and well regarded CEO quit midway last year?? It's easy for them to doublespeak and say we've 'never discussed bringing back the Magpies' because the real discussion taking place is 'how do we get this JV to implode enough until there is no other option but to bring back the Magpies'.

The directors were re-instated because they were smacked down by PVL and the NRL. Simple as. If the JV goes bust the NRL will say "Thank you very much!!" and give the licence to a new team in another state or in NZ. Good luck to any Sydney team wanting a new NRL Licence.

There wasn't an investigation into Richo. There was an initial probe to validate and see if some whistleblower reports had grounds for an official investigation. (Looks pretty unlikely, because if there were grounds for an investigation, the NRL integrity unit would be mandated to investigate the whistleblower claims whether he resigned or not) His son's company - a legit ad agency - was helping the club with its marketing strategy and there were frivolous accusations about hands in the till from a former employee. I guess our owners hate profits that aren't from gambling.
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Seems stupid and counter-productive of HB to not want games at LO when theyre going to have a club just up the road
 
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