2019 Coaching saga -Thread

[jirskyr]

There are a LOT of assumptions going on here. The main one being that both Bennett & Maguire WANT to coach here. We could end up pretty red faced.

Not really. This club has made us underwhelmed and disenfranchised over the years. Used to the worst outcome honestly.

Fire up you mopey sad sack. Club has made you underwhelmed and disenfranchised perhaps; don't speak on my behalf.

You say "used to worst outcome" when we finished middle of pack last year - that's not the "worst outcome". Far from it. In fact, Wests Tigers have never had the worst outcome.

Cleary is a decent coach and if it so happens that your ultimate pessimism is correct and both Bennett and Maguire pass on the Tigers, then Cleary stays put. Worst outcome is decent coach. I personally don't care if he's leaving or not leaving in 2021, that's a long ways away and the coach will do his job, just as Bennett will do his for 2019.

Anyway there must be some level of interest from Maguire and Bennett to coach at Tigers, otherwise the story would have been killed off on Day 1\. It all depends on the demands and desperation of the coach - e.g. how quickly does Maguire want to return to NRL and what is his most likely route to achieve this? Sure if Seibold extends with Rabbits then Madge has an improved chance to get the Broncos gig in 2020, which leaves Bennett without a club. If Seibold signs w Broncos for 2020 then Madge is without a suitor, given that he reportedly turned down Manly.

You couldn't honestly say "Bennett doesn't want to coach the Tigers" if the sticking point was, say, salary. That's not about not wanting to coach a team, that's about wanting big buckets of cash. Andrew Webster compares Red Hill and Concord, but Wayne Bennett would happily mop the floors at Concord if you paid him enough cash to do it. And that's making out as if Jubilee and Marathon Stadium are world-class venues.

 

[HabboTiger]

Could have lost interest, could be gamesmanship over terms or $$
who knows really.

This will drag a while.

 

[WT2K]

Wayne has gone cold on the tigers then says it'll be hard to turn down the chance to extend his career with a club like the tigers… Sounds like the writer is having a bet each way..

 

[Swordy]

Bennett was never warm on the Tigers and whilst many disagree, I thank God for that.

All media hype as usual.

Bennett = overrated

 

[GNR4LIFE]

I agree with Jirksyr, worst case scenario and we miss out on both Maguire and Bennett, we’ll stick with Cleary. Maybe re-evaluate the coaching landscape at the end of 2019 and see whose available.

 

[jadtiger]

I agree with Jirksyr, worst case scenario and we miss out on both Maguire and Bennett, we’ll stick with Cleary. Maybe re-evaluate the coaching landscape at the end of 2019 and see whose available.

x2

 

[avocadoontoast]

I agree with Jirksyr, worst case scenario and we miss out on both Maguire and Bennett, we’ll stick with Cleary. Maybe re-evaluate the coaching landscape at the end of 2019 and see whose available.

If we miss out on Bennett and Maguire we should chat to Toovey. I don't think Cleary's position is tenable.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

I agree with Jirksyr, worst case scenario and we miss out on both Maguire and Bennett, we’ll stick with Cleary. Maybe re-evaluate the coaching landscape at the end of 2019 and see whose available.

If we miss out on Bennett and Maguire we should chat to Toovey. I don't think Cleary's position is tenable.

If there’s no one available, we won’t have a choice.

 

[newtiger]

How daft that the article leads that Bennett has reportedly gone cold on Tigers, then subsequently says "an offer that extends his career beyond that from the likes of the Wests Tigers could be hard to turn down".

Way to disagree with yourself. Also posters - where is the reference link?

Sorry Fox Sports NRL

 

[Newtown]

I agree with Jirksyr, worst case scenario and we miss out on both Maguire and Bennett, we’ll stick with Cleary. Maybe re-evaluate the coaching landscape at the end of 2019 and see whose available.

Nothing wrong with that outcome. Cleary has kept quiet whilst so many on the forum have vented their anger. I would not be surprised if he decides to stay with the Tigers for the remaining duration of his contract.

 

[WT2K]

I agree with Jirksyr, worst case scenario and we miss out on both Maguire and Bennett, we’ll stick with Cleary. Maybe re-evaluate the coaching landscape at the end of 2019 and see whose available.

As much as I don't want Cleary here for 2019, I think you're right in saying re-evaluate the landscape again if we can't get one of our two preferred options.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

I don’t think it’s worth getting rid of him to bring in a noob. The situation with Ivan is not that desperate despite some of the hysteria.

 

[Fade_To_Black]

Slightly conflicting there Lauren.

I think Justin and Marina are taking their time to ensure they explore all possible options and go through the due process. Our problem before was that we didn't do that.

Yeah now we're awaiting on how things unveil at the Broncos and it makes me feel they haven't really got a handle on things.
Rash might be the wrong word. But I don't want the club to set forth a plan totally based on another club's decision. This sends the wrong message to me.

Meanwhile Gus Gould only has to sit back while everything plays into his hands. This is what is most frustrating to me.

The problem is it seems Wayne is more honourable than Cleary. Unfortunately, that means we need the Broncos involved. We have a plan, it just has dependencies. Madge would be our backup option if Wayne isn't here in 2019 and that is probably timeboxed to the end of the week. To me, that's the right plan for the best outcome for us. Don't care how it's perceived in the short term.

Gus doesn't really hold all the cards here. We could always keep Cleary under contract and mess with him. But I don't think we will. Hopefully, we can get a deal for an early release in return.

Wayne is more honourable than Cleary ??
I wonder if the Roosters would back up that statement?
Wasnt it “honourable” ol Benny Who reneged on a promise to Politis to Coach there ,and then
Reneged on the deal. ??

Agree. The word "honourable" isn't my first thought when thinking of Unca.
Wonder if his ex-wife thinks fondly of Wayne as "honourable"? Not directly footy-related but relevant nonetheless when discussing honour.
Wayne does what is best for Wayne…...always has.
Think of his hasty bail-out from the Knights. And was it the Aussie or NZ Test team as well from memory?

 

[newtiger]

I don’t think it’s worth getting rid of him to bring in a noob. The situation with Ivan is not that desperate despite some of the hysteria.

If we can't get who we want that force Ivan to stay just to stuff up the Panthers plans.

 

[avocadoontoast]

I agree with Jirksyr, worst case scenario and we miss out on both Maguire and Bennett, we’ll stick with Cleary. Maybe re-evaluate the coaching landscape at the end of 2019 and see whose available.

If we miss out on Bennett and Maguire we should chat to Toovey. I don't think Cleary's position is tenable.

If there’s no one available, we won’t have a choice.

I haven't seen or read anything to suggest that Toovey isn't available.

 

[Fade_To_Black]

I don’t think it’s worth getting rid of him to bring in a noob. The situation with Ivan is not that desperate despite some of the hysteria.

And you know this how? It is glaringly obvious that nobody on here knows what the situation is at our club. It would be a reasonable guess to assume it's not great TBH.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

I agree with Jirksyr, worst case scenario and we miss out on both Maguire and Bennett, we’ll stick with Cleary. Maybe re-evaluate the coaching landscape at the end of 2019 and see whose available.

If we miss out on Bennett and Maguire we should chat to Toovey. I don't think Cleary's position is tenable.

If there’s no one available, we won’t have a choice.

I haven't seen or read anything to suggest that Toovey isn't available.

And I haven’t read anywhere that’s interested in us or vice verca.

 

[Fade_To_Black]

Slightly conflicting there Lauren.

I think Justin and Marina are taking their time to ensure they explore all possible options and go through the due process. Our problem before was that we didn't do that.

Me thinks Lauren might be blonde.
It’s been scientifically proven that long term use of peroxide causes permanent brain damage.

Not called for..i for one enjoy Lauren's posts..balanced and has made me think quite often…

Stick around Lauren and keep posting your thoughts...hope to hear them more often..

Hi Lauren you are probably slightly confused like I get when Geo agrees with me

You assume your wrong because Geo is usually so wide of the mark he couldn't hit a barn with a handful of gravel

But Geo accidently stumbles on a right comment occasionally by some miracle

And yes , enjoying your posts , stick with it , your making more sense than many other plodder posters on here …... :sign:

:deadhorse:

Gee whiz Happy, your fixation on mentioning Geo in every post is bordering on BBF/Roberto Farah proportions. Neck and neck!

 

[GNR4LIFE]

I don’t think it’s worth getting rid of him to bring in a noob. The situation with Ivan is not that desperate despite some of the hysteria.

And you know this how? It is glaringly obvious that nobody on here knows what the situation is at our club. It would be a reasonable guess to assume it's not great TBH.

So, if it came down to it and Maguire and Bennett both turned us down, you think we’d be better off getting rid of Ivan and appointing Hodgson, Payten or another rookie coach with no runs on the board?

 

[gallagher]

Bloody hell. If we can't attract a bloke who hasn't got a job then we're doing something horribly wrong.