2019 Coaching saga -Thread
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goldcoast_tiger
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That was the spotter that I mentioned in my first paragraph, (I had a complete blank on his name)
And yes he was a huge talent for spotting players and worked for Bennett for years,
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NRL.com article. Pascoe flew to Auckland before going on a club business trip to America.
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Definitely be 100 pages by November 1
I suspect it’s wishful thinking about Bennett.
Maguire is available now, lives in Sydney with a young family. Bennett is going to be 70 in 2020 and made it clear he will stick out next year with the Broncos. TPJ signing for 1 year after a cracker year speaks volumes. His value atm is sky high. The real risk we have is Maguire signing with Brisbane. Wayne will wait a year and have a stack of opportunities.
It’s all media guessing at this stage I suppose the Broncos announcement will determine what happens.
My guess is Seibold - Brisbane, Wayne- Souths, Maguire- Wests, Cleary- Penrith.
Maguire is available now, lives in Sydney with a young family. Bennett is going to be 70 in 2020 and made it clear he will stick out next year with the Broncos. TPJ signing for 1 year after a cracker year speaks volumes. His value atm is sky high. The real risk we have is Maguire signing with Brisbane. Wayne will wait a year and have a stack of opportunities.
It’s all media guessing at this stage I suppose the Broncos announcement will determine what happens.
My guess is Seibold - Brisbane, Wayne- Souths, Maguire- Wests, Cleary- Penrith.
happy_tiger
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Cyril was my old mans teacher and coach at Brisbane State High School (Rugby Union )
Spud_Murphy
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Spot on!
vlad
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https://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/nrl/wayne-bennett-still-wests-tigers-priority-in-coaching-circus/news-story/3fa62a39035dd4b49bd6fc5f725139fc
Wayne Bennett still Wests Tigers’ priority in coaching circus
BRENT READ
SENIOR SPORTS WRITER
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Wayne Bennett’s Wikipedia page was hacked yesterday. According to an entry under his coaching record, Bennett is bound for the West Coast Sea Eagles next season.
Funny stuff, except the NRL coaching saga at the moment is no laughing matter, and Bennett is in the thick of it as he ponders his future. His next move is likely to be decided while he is overseas, adding another layer to the madness that has become the story of the post-season.
Bennett, who coached England to a big win over France last weekend, is preparing for a three-match Test series against a Michael Maguire-coached New Zealand
He left Australian shores with his future under a cloud but will return with it likely decided. The dominoes in the most dramatic coaching saga in the game’s recent history are set to play out in coming days.
Bennett has become a central figure in the commotion, his future prompting a host of rumours, some of which have quickly been dismissed by others involved in the theatrics. There was speculation yesterday that he had withdrawn from the race to coach Wests Tigers, although that was denied by club officials.
Bennett remains the Tigers’ preferred option to replace Ivan Cleary, despite reports yesterday that chief executive Justin Pascoe had flown to Auckland on his way to America — he takes club corporates on an annual junket to tour sporting facilities and watch sporting events — to hold talks with Maguire.
The club has already discussed terms with Bennett and it knows where it stands. Timing remains the greatest impediment to the seven-time premiership winner becoming the Tigers’ next coach, with Cleary likely to be shown the door in the next fortnight, freeing him to take a lucrative deal at Penrith and coach his son Nathan.
Bennett has given every indication he wants to finish his contract at the Broncos in 2019 and that may force the Tigers to turn to Maguire.
Whispers continue that Bennett also has his eyes on the South Sydney job should Anthony Seibold successfully interview for the Broncos position and decide he wants to move north in 2020.
Bennett has a close relationship with several Souths players, most notably the Burgess brothers through his involvement with the England team. He has knocked on Souths’ door twice before — once he rebuffed them, and then they rebuffed him.
A third dance appears unlikely, at least from the Rabbitohs’ end, given they have enjoyed success with a young coach over the past 12 months and earmarked David Furner to take over before he was lured to Leeds for 2019\. Furner is, however, yet to leave Australia and remains in the picture. The focus could sharpen on him over the weekend before his departure, depending on the plans of Seibold and Brisbane.
The Broncos are still going through their interview process, although they are likely to finish talking to the final member of their four-man shortlist — Kevin Walters — on Monday. They will then be in position to make a call on their successor to Bennett. By then, Manly may have unveiled Des Hasler, the most unlikely and unexpected appointment taking place first. The expectation is that the dominoes will fall rapidly after that.
The madness will lull but it will only be temporary. Once the coaches are in place, expect the players to become the focal point as rosters begin to be reshaped.
Amid the current and looming insanity, at least one thing is certain. Despite the wags on Wikipedia, you can be sure that Bennett won’t be at West Coast Sea Eagles next season.
Wayne Bennett still Wests Tigers’ priority in coaching circus
BRENT READ
SENIOR SPORTS WRITER
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Wayne Bennett’s Wikipedia page was hacked yesterday. According to an entry under his coaching record, Bennett is bound for the West Coast Sea Eagles next season.
Funny stuff, except the NRL coaching saga at the moment is no laughing matter, and Bennett is in the thick of it as he ponders his future. His next move is likely to be decided while he is overseas, adding another layer to the madness that has become the story of the post-season.
Bennett, who coached England to a big win over France last weekend, is preparing for a three-match Test series against a Michael Maguire-coached New Zealand
He left Australian shores with his future under a cloud but will return with it likely decided. The dominoes in the most dramatic coaching saga in the game’s recent history are set to play out in coming days.
Bennett has become a central figure in the commotion, his future prompting a host of rumours, some of which have quickly been dismissed by others involved in the theatrics. There was speculation yesterday that he had withdrawn from the race to coach Wests Tigers, although that was denied by club officials.
Bennett remains the Tigers’ preferred option to replace Ivan Cleary, despite reports yesterday that chief executive Justin Pascoe had flown to Auckland on his way to America — he takes club corporates on an annual junket to tour sporting facilities and watch sporting events — to hold talks with Maguire.
The club has already discussed terms with Bennett and it knows where it stands. Timing remains the greatest impediment to the seven-time premiership winner becoming the Tigers’ next coach, with Cleary likely to be shown the door in the next fortnight, freeing him to take a lucrative deal at Penrith and coach his son Nathan.
Bennett has given every indication he wants to finish his contract at the Broncos in 2019 and that may force the Tigers to turn to Maguire.
Whispers continue that Bennett also has his eyes on the South Sydney job should Anthony Seibold successfully interview for the Broncos position and decide he wants to move north in 2020.
Bennett has a close relationship with several Souths players, most notably the Burgess brothers through his involvement with the England team. He has knocked on Souths’ door twice before — once he rebuffed them, and then they rebuffed him.
A third dance appears unlikely, at least from the Rabbitohs’ end, given they have enjoyed success with a young coach over the past 12 months and earmarked David Furner to take over before he was lured to Leeds for 2019\. Furner is, however, yet to leave Australia and remains in the picture. The focus could sharpen on him over the weekend before his departure, depending on the plans of Seibold and Brisbane.
The Broncos are still going through their interview process, although they are likely to finish talking to the final member of their four-man shortlist — Kevin Walters — on Monday. They will then be in position to make a call on their successor to Bennett. By then, Manly may have unveiled Des Hasler, the most unlikely and unexpected appointment taking place first. The expectation is that the dominoes will fall rapidly after that.
The madness will lull but it will only be temporary. Once the coaches are in place, expect the players to become the focal point as rosters begin to be reshaped.
Amid the current and looming insanity, at least one thing is certain. Despite the wags on Wikipedia, you can be sure that Bennett won’t be at West Coast Sea Eagles next season.
The_Patriot
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So poor old David Furner joins the waiting list now.
Cant wait for this thing to play out and all the pieces fall.
Cant wait for this thing to play out and all the pieces fall.
Fade_To_Black
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Worst case scenario is if Cleary is coaching us next season. A bloke who will just be scratching his cods itching to get out of WT and back to Penrith. He won't care if we finish last next year, he won't care if players regress under him while he is here either. It will be a balls-up of monumental proportions if he is still here next year. No players will entertain coming to our club if it degenerates into a laughing stock (yet again) next season.
Ivan the sell-out must be shoved out the door at all costs, Penrith can have him next year, he is hardly a supercoach thus far in his coaching career.
Just want the turncoat gone ASAP.
goldcoast_tiger
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Just Read , going over and over and over again with the same unconfirmed drivel .
If he throws enough guesses around , at least some of them is bound to be right, or at least close to being right
GNR4LIFE
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So we are better off going with a noob like Hodgson or Payton for 2 or 3 years, then we are holding onto Ivan and re-evaluating the coaching landscape at the end of 2019 when someone who has more runs on the board may be available? That kind of thinking is the hysteria I was talking about yesterday.
GNR4LIFE
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Brent Read is a moron.
happy_tiger
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Bennett has been a master of using the Brisbane press to get what he wants in the past
Where did the original story of Bennett to the WT's actually come from …....... :bulb:
Where did the original story of Bennett to the WT's actually come from …....... :bulb:
innsaneink
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So we'd have a coach for a year with one eye elsewhere?
Sounds familiar
It seems that the Broncos are in the driving seat and we will have to wait till they appoint their new coach or knock back applicants, before we can properly determine our path.
If it means holding on to Cleary for another year the club will have to be prepared to wear the impact of that if the results are poor on the field. It will be relentless and will have us back in the basketcase categorie again.
If it means holding on to Cleary for another year the club will have to be prepared to wear the impact of that if the results are poor on the field. It will be relentless and will have us back in the basketcase categorie again.
Manly are looking at making Barrett work along side Des rather than releasing him.
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Manly have no intention of paying out Trent Barrett, who will be made to continue working for his contract money long after Des Hasler is appointed as his replacement.
Hasler’s return to the northern beaches on a three-year deal will be trumpeted next week, marking an unlikely return to the Sea Eagles. It was widely considered the Hasler deal would not be announced until a settlement had been reached with Barrett, who gave a 12-month notice period last July.
Fallout: Manly has no intention of paying out Trent Barrett.
Fallout: Manly has no intention of paying out Trent Barrett.CREDIT:AAP
But in an unprecedented scenario, the Sea Eagles intend for Barrett to serve out his time in a yet-to-be-defined role, meaning he will remain at the club until the middle of next year alongside Hasler.
The extraordinary transition plan means Barrett is expected to keep working for his money long after the new coach's appointment. Manly powerbrokers are adamant they won’t be paying out a cent to Barrett to get him off their books, but are prepared to grant him a release should he ask for one. Such a move would prevent them from having to pay two coaches at the same time.
Barrett continues to log in at work every day and prepare for the upcoming pre-season to ensure he fulfils his contractual commitments. Sea Eagles officials privately believe he handed in his notice in the expectation he would take over from Anthony Griffin at Penrith, where Barrett was previously an assistant. However, Cameron Ciraldo remains the caretaker Panthers coach until Ivan Cleary rejoins the club, a move most expect will happen in coming weeks.
Barrett’s legal team is closely monitoring the situation in the belief that only their client can claim to be the first-grade coach until his term is served. However, the Sea Eagles are also confident in their position, setting up an ugly stand-off between a coach who seemingly doesn’t want to be there and a club not prepared to pay him out.
Barrett has publicly slammed Manly over the lack of infrastructure and support he has received during his time at the club. However, the facilities are on improvement on those Hasler had at his disposal when he took the Sea Eagles to two premierships.
Hasler’s return to Manly will be the first domino to fall in one of the biggest shake-ups of the coaching ranks in NRL history. Up to five clubs could experience a change of clipboard holder before the 2019 season kicks off.
Cleary is contracted to Wests Tigers for the next two years but is understood to have agreed to return to the foot of the mountains on a three-year deal beginning in 2021\. That move will put pressure on the Tigers to release him immediately, although they won’t do so unless they can find a suitable replacement.
Tigers CEO Justin Pascoe has taken a group of corporate sponsors on a study trip of the United States, touring a range of businesses and sporting organisations including the Chicago Bulls. It’s understood Pascoe has met up with potential Cleary replacements Michael Maguire and Wayne Bennett between his US commitments.
Complicating matters is the fact that Bennett is contracted for next season and Maguire is one of four candidates in the running to replace him. The others are Queensland coach Kevin Walters, Broncos assistant Andrew Demetriou and South Sydney coach Anthony Seibold, who is also contracted until 2020\. Seibold is the favourite and the Rabbitohs may be prepared to release him immediately if they can find a suitable replacement, raising the possibility of a straight swap for Bennett.
Maguire’s preference is the Brisbane job, but the New Zealand coach will firm for the Tigers post if he misses out. The Tigers have been inundated with expressions of interest but the joint-venture outfit will only release Cleary if they jag a big-name replacement. That leaves only Maguire and Bennett, the latter keen on a long-term deal once he leaves Red Hill.
Smh
Manly have no intention of paying out Trent Barrett, who will be made to continue working for his contract money long after Des Hasler is appointed as his replacement.
Hasler’s return to the northern beaches on a three-year deal will be trumpeted next week, marking an unlikely return to the Sea Eagles. It was widely considered the Hasler deal would not be announced until a settlement had been reached with Barrett, who gave a 12-month notice period last July.
Fallout: Manly has no intention of paying out Trent Barrett.
Fallout: Manly has no intention of paying out Trent Barrett.CREDIT:AAP
But in an unprecedented scenario, the Sea Eagles intend for Barrett to serve out his time in a yet-to-be-defined role, meaning he will remain at the club until the middle of next year alongside Hasler.
The extraordinary transition plan means Barrett is expected to keep working for his money long after the new coach's appointment. Manly powerbrokers are adamant they won’t be paying out a cent to Barrett to get him off their books, but are prepared to grant him a release should he ask for one. Such a move would prevent them from having to pay two coaches at the same time.
Barrett continues to log in at work every day and prepare for the upcoming pre-season to ensure he fulfils his contractual commitments. Sea Eagles officials privately believe he handed in his notice in the expectation he would take over from Anthony Griffin at Penrith, where Barrett was previously an assistant. However, Cameron Ciraldo remains the caretaker Panthers coach until Ivan Cleary rejoins the club, a move most expect will happen in coming weeks.
Barrett’s legal team is closely monitoring the situation in the belief that only their client can claim to be the first-grade coach until his term is served. However, the Sea Eagles are also confident in their position, setting up an ugly stand-off between a coach who seemingly doesn’t want to be there and a club not prepared to pay him out.
Barrett has publicly slammed Manly over the lack of infrastructure and support he has received during his time at the club. However, the facilities are on improvement on those Hasler had at his disposal when he took the Sea Eagles to two premierships.
Hasler’s return to Manly will be the first domino to fall in one of the biggest shake-ups of the coaching ranks in NRL history. Up to five clubs could experience a change of clipboard holder before the 2019 season kicks off.
Cleary is contracted to Wests Tigers for the next two years but is understood to have agreed to return to the foot of the mountains on a three-year deal beginning in 2021\. That move will put pressure on the Tigers to release him immediately, although they won’t do so unless they can find a suitable replacement.
Tigers CEO Justin Pascoe has taken a group of corporate sponsors on a study trip of the United States, touring a range of businesses and sporting organisations including the Chicago Bulls. It’s understood Pascoe has met up with potential Cleary replacements Michael Maguire and Wayne Bennett between his US commitments.
Complicating matters is the fact that Bennett is contracted for next season and Maguire is one of four candidates in the running to replace him. The others are Queensland coach Kevin Walters, Broncos assistant Andrew Demetriou and South Sydney coach Anthony Seibold, who is also contracted until 2020\. Seibold is the favourite and the Rabbitohs may be prepared to release him immediately if they can find a suitable replacement, raising the possibility of a straight swap for Bennett.
Maguire’s preference is the Brisbane job, but the New Zealand coach will firm for the Tigers post if he misses out. The Tigers have been inundated with expressions of interest but the joint-venture outfit will only release Cleary if they jag a big-name replacement. That leaves only Maguire and Bennett, the latter keen on a long-term deal once he leaves Red Hill.
