2019 Coaching saga -Thread

[gallagher]

Bloody hell. If we can't attract a bloke who hasn't got a job then we're doing something horribly wrong.

 

[WT2K]

Wests Tigers chief executive Justin Pascoe flew to Auckland to have a meeting with prospective coach Michael Maguire about the possibility of replacing Ivan Cleary at the club in 2019.

Pascoe was originally meant to fly direct to the United States on a club corporate tour, however NRL.com can reveal the Tigers chief executive made a detour through Auckland to catch up with the New Zealand Kiwis coach before last Saturday's Test against Australia.

As it stands, the Wests Tigers will only release Cleary to join Penrith immediately if they can land what they perceive to be an upgrade – which is why premiership-winning coach Wayne Bennett and Maguire are the only two candidates being considered.
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However the decisions at Brisbane, who are interviewing candidates for the job from 2020, are likely to have major ramifications on who coaches the Tigers when they return for pre-season training next month.

Bennett, who also met up with Pascoe before flying to the United Kingdom with the English team, is still contracted to the Broncos next season.

The Tigers want him to join the club when he returns from international duty, however it's unlikely the Broncos will part ways with Bennett unless they have a coach locked in on a long-term deal starting from 2019.

Broncos coach Wayne Bennett.
Broncos coach Wayne Bennett.
©Scott Davis/NRL Photos
NRL.com understands South Sydney coach Anthony Seibold, who has one more year to run on his deal at the Rabbitohs, is the frontrunner for the Brisbane job from 2020 but timing would mean the Tigers would miss out on Bennett unless the Rabbitohs were to release their coach.

Maguire, who is understood to be one of four coaches interviewed by the Broncos along with Kevin Walters, Jason Demetriou and Seibold, is ready to step straight into the role at the Tigers.

His efforts in helping New Zealand defeat Australia in the Trans-Tasman Test last week haven't gone unnoticed.

Pascoe returns from the United States next week, when it is expected several clubs will make key decisions regarding their coaching set-up as they prepare for the start of pre-season, with several clubs kicking off their training programs on November 1.
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While many at the Tigers believe Cleary's position at the club in 2019 is now untenable, they won't let him leave unless it is in the best interests of the organisation and there is a coach ready to take over.

Bennett and Maguire are in the United Kingdom preparing the England and New Zealand teams respectively and wouldn't be in a position to start at the club until at least mid-November.
https://www.nrl.com/news/2018/10/19/wests-tigers-ceo-justin-pascoe-meets-michael-maguire-over-2019-coaching-role/

 

[avocadoontoast]

If we miss out on Bennett and Maguire we should chat to Toovey. I don't think Cleary's position is tenable.

If there’s no one available, we won’t have a choice.

I haven't seen or read anything to suggest that Toovey isn't available.

And I haven’t read anywhere that’s interested in us or vice verca.

Quite the mystery then, isn't it?

 

[Newtown]

At the start of this saga Wests Tigers stated they were holding Cleary to his contract. Cleary confirmed that he would honour his contract and nothing has ever been heard from Wests Tigers or Cleary since. So logically the status quo remains and Cleary will remain as Wests Tigers coach for the next two seasons.

 

[balmain boy]

For all we know Pascoe is in the UK, seeing as both our reported top choices are there right now. Maybe he's just interviewing them in person…?

That article (with no names attached of course) is just rubbish! Bennet gone cold but would find it hard to turn down. Lol. He isn't even in the country. There are very few people that could have any inside word on what he's thinking right now. You're not exactly going to overhear him chatting at a local cafe...!

And on Addo Carr, it has been widely discussed for many years now. The fault lies solely on the feet of his lying and greedy manager and an impatient kid that got pissed after not being selected in first grade for round one straight out of NYC.

 

[WT2K]

Pascoe meets Michael Maguire
https://www.nrl.com/news/2018/10/19/wests-tigers-ceo-justin-pascoe-meets-michael-maguire-over-2019-coaching-role/

 

[GNR4LIFE]

“As it stands, the Wests Tigers will only release Cleary to join Penrith immediately if they can land what they perceive to be an upgrade – which is why premiership-winning coach Wayne Bennett and Maguire are the only two candidates being considered.“

This is good to know.

 

[Tcat]

I can't wait for this coaching situation to be signed and settled once and for all. The media are just writing whatever they can to fuel rumours and put doubt into club supporters minds. I'm trying not to buy into it too much but gee it's hard. Come on Pascoe, get the deal done and let's get going.

 

[jirskyr]

"I can't believe Pascoe is overseas blah blah blah. Who takes a holiday at a time like this!?!? Blah blah blah"

Oh wait he's spoken to both coaching candidates and detoured his pre-planned BUSINESS TRIP to meet with one candidate in another country.

What an amateur, can't believe this mug is running the club, can't believe his lack of diligence.

GNR used the right word - a little too much hysteria for the off-season.

 

[TIGERPOWER]

I don’t think it’s worth getting rid of him to bring in a noob. The situation with Ivan is not that desperate despite some of the hysteria.

I’m confused , are you a fan of Clearys now?

 

[GNR4LIFE]

I don’t think it’s worth getting rid of him to bring in a noob. The situation with Ivan is not that desperate despite some of the hysteria.

I’m confused , are you a fan of Clearys now?

More a fan of him coaching us than a Payton or Hodgson coaching us if they aren’t keeping the seat warm for someone like Bennett in 2020.

 

[mario_chalmers]

Tigers must be waiting to see if Bennett is sacked by Brisbane, otherwise you'd have to think they'd have offered Maguire the job before he left for UK with the Kiwis.

 

[Newtown]

For all we know Pascoe is in the UK, seeing as both our reported top choices are there right now. Maybe he's just interviewing them in person…?

That article (with no names attached of course) is just rubbish! Bennet gone cold but would find it hard to turn down. Lol. He isn't even in the country. There are very few people that could have any inside word on what he's thinking right now. You're not exactly going to overhear him chatting at a local cafe...!

And on Addo Carr, it has been widely discussed for many years now. The fault lies solely on the feet of his lying and greedy manager and an impatient kid that got pissed after not being selected in first grade for round one straight out of NYC.

If Pascoe is in UK he may also be interviewing some players to transfer to Wests tigers.

 

[tigerap]

Its looking very likely Cleary will be here for the next 2 years…Bennett not interested in us...

 

[Harvey]

We are an embarrassment. Our preferred options are holding off seeing if they can get a better offer elsewhere.

We need a plan e so that we can move forward and sign a coach.

Put something in the contract that prevents them meeting with other clubs before the season that the contract expires, punishable by penalties that would bankrupt them.

I now want Demetriou for 3 years. If you do due diligence an up and coming coach is often a better option than someone proven to be average.

We need to be honest of the fact that we are seen as also rans. The bottom of the heap that will only be embraced by those with limited options and one eye on the exit door.

We need to focus on accurately identifying playing and coaching talent on the way up and locking them down, so by the end of their contract they are a tightly bonded and successful group.

 

[Roar_Power]

Its looking very likely Cleary will be here for the next 2 years…Bennett not interested in us...

So no Madge?

 

[Seantice]

It all comes down to who Broncos choose. Then there will be a domino effect.

We are 2nd or 3rd choice. Will always until we get a COE and one home ground.

 

[innsaneink]

Article in today's Australian says that Justin Pascoe is overseas this week.

I've no doubt that the bloke is entitled to holiday but surely not at a time when the club needs to sort out its coaching situation?

Wasn't he lying on a beach somewhere when Addo Carr was hoping we'd offer him a new contract? He signed for Melbourne while Pascoe was sipping pina coladas?

Could be business?

Enjoy your vacay JP lol


 

[goldcoast_tiger]

We are an embarrassment. Our preferred options are holding off seeing if they can get a better offer elsewhere.

We need a plan e so that we can move forward and sign a coach.

Put something in the contract that prevents them meeting with other clubs before the season that the contract expires, punishable by penalties that would bankrupt them.

I now want Demetriou for 3 years. If you do due diligence an up and coming coach is often a better option than someone proven to be average.

We need to be honest of the fact that we are seen as also rans. The bottom of the heap that will only be embraced by those with limited options and one eye on the exit door.

We need to focus on accurately identifying playing and coaching talent on the way up and locking them down, so by the end of their contract they are a tightly bonded and successful group.

We have to remember that the only experience That Demetriou has had, in the NrL, is as an Assistant Coach With an excellent lot of players behind him
Even though he is the one who I would like to see here, (if Ivan goes). He still hasnt had any experience as a head Coach

 

[jirskyr]

We are an embarrassment. Our preferred options are holding off seeing if they can get a better offer elsewhere.

We need a plan e so that we can move forward and sign a coach.

Put something in the contract that prevents them meeting with other clubs before the season that the contract expires, punishable by penalties that would bankrupt them.

I now want Demetriou for 3 years. If you do due diligence an up and coming coach is often a better option than someone proven to be average.

We need to be honest of the fact that we are seen as also rans. The bottom of the heap that will only be embraced by those with limited options and one eye on the exit door.

We need to focus on accurately identifying playing and coaching talent on the way up and locking them down, so by the end of their contract they are a tightly bonded and successful group.

Don't even know where to start with this except that half of it nonsense and half of it is so obvious as to be pointless.

Bankrupt a coach through a contract. Sure. Actually whilst we are at it, let's get them to sign a contract where they pay us money to coach our team.