2020 and 2021 incomings and outgoings

@TIGER said in [2020 and 2021 incomings and outgoings](/post/1047505) said:
Fainu - Not gonna happen.

Suli - No

Papenhauzen - Yes

Capewell - No (the guy has missed tackles in the double figures on multiple occasions this season, ordinary player no better than what we have)

The kid from Penrith could be anywhere in 2yrs, could be working at Coles.



Gould made a comment the othe night when Matt played that he could be the best of the young halfs that penrith have he has a more complete rounded game already
 
@tigerstprem2020 said in [2020 and 2021 incomings and outgoings](/post/1047484) said:
Firstly, I'd like to start off by saying, lets finish this season off on a high note and put our focus on qualifying for finals footy. But going into 2020 we need to put our focus in young, exciting talents who know the club and can really steer us into the future. We need a team thats going to perform in the moment as well as building for the future which is why a mix of experience, young talents and young players who have good NRL experience. So here we go with my signings for next year:

1) Manase Fainu. With club legend Robbie Farah leaving the club it is a great opportunity to bring in Manase, who in my opinion is the most exciting young hooker in the competition. Let's be real, Jacob Liddle will never lead a club to finals footy let alone a premiership, he just isn't good enough nor will he ever be. He's a reserve grade footballer. I know Manase will be hard to pickup with Manly reportedly allowing Koroisau to move on for Fainu to become no. 1 but a big enough pay check and he will be ours.

2) Moses Suli. Moses Suli is one of the most promising young outside backs around who is known for his ability to run the ball strong and hard. In my opinion, letting Moses go is one of our biggest mistakes in recent history as he continues to develop into one of the games most terrifying centres and is still getting better. I know he had extreme disciplinary issues but the kid has generational talent to go along with his size and speed, there is no denying that. Not only this but he is Fainu's best mate and they'll want to stick together, which would be huge pull power to luring Manase in. Give them both long term, big money deals and our future is sorted with two of the most exciting prospects in the game who know the club.

3) Ryan Papenhuyzen. Obvious. Knows the club, knows those in and around the club and isn't in the starting 13 at his current club. SHOW HIM THE CASH and SECURE THE BAG. I know a lot of clubs will be looking at him but he is off contract at the end of next year and I have no doubt that he will want to return to the beloved Wests Tigers. If we are able to secure his services from 2021 and beat our rivals to his signature it will go along way to our future success. All great, successful clubs are built on a solid core who know what the club
is about which is why Fainu, Suli and Papenhuyzen would be ideal candidates.

4) Kurt Capewell. A quality, versatile player who is just what every club needs. His selection into the Origin squad for QLD pays great tribute to how good he is on footy field. He adds NRL Experience, quality in a number of positions and at 26 years of age still has time to grow and turn into the player we all know he is. Not only this but he is a true leader and with Robbie gone, Benji and Brooksy playing like shit and Josh Reynolds being shown the door, we need someone to step up and maybe that can be him.

5) Matt Burton. Was absolutely outstanding for Penrith the other night and with Nathan Cleary and Jarome Luai, I believe he could find first grade footy extremely limited with Ivan favouring his son. He seems like a genuinely good bloke who will give his absolute all every time he steps out onto the field and I believe we should put the trust in him to pair either Brooksy or Benji in the halves with the other dropping into jersey number 14. Matt Burton is quality and suits the style of play we should try to build on at this club.

Thank you and let me know your thoughts. Honourable mentions who nearly made the list include: Taane Milne, Haumole Olakau'atu, Bevan French, T-Rex (Tony Williams), Jackson Ford, Nicho Hynes and Jai Field.

Sorry Chief, started to read your post but you lost me on point 1 (talking about Liddle).
 
@Needaname not sure, Sharks have no cap space for next year unless they offload a few of their big money players apparently.
 
What could possibly go wrong with giving Suli and big money, long-term deal? Fainu as well coming off one good season of first grade footy.

This is exactly the kind of business that gets us into mediocrity. We're stuck with Brooks for 4 more years because we gave him a long-term deal based on one season of above average play.

The signings we need to make are:

1) Retaining homegrown talent long-term (i.e. locking up guys like Mikaele, Aloiai (which we've done)).

2. Signing genuine star players who are in their prime, or guys who are on the cusp of it and young. None of these signings like Reynolds and Matulino who are injury prone and 29/30 years on multi-year deals. To think instead of having Packer, Matulino and Reynolds on the books, that money could've been thrown at Arrow and Brimson from the Titans (although I don't think Brimson's a superstar, he's definitely shown a lot of in a terrible team).

3. Proven first graders who have others in front of them or have been forced out of position. Matterson was a great example - he'd proven himself to be a good player at the Roosters but was just stuck behind others who were also very good, and the Roosters also happened to sign Crichton as well.

Bailey Simonsson would be a good example - stuck behind Cotric and Rapana (if re-signed by the Raiders) and currently on minimum wage. We could give him a fair bump on that minimum wage with added years for security and he'd get an opportunity to start full-time on the wing.
 
Something I don't get from many of the forum (maybe every forum is the same ) , but what is it with the infatuation of bringing players back

If they are superstars maybe ...but many spoken about aren't
 
@Kazoo-Kid nah not really, just be tough with him. the beast can tamed and he is a beast, one of the best, most damaging centres around.
 
@TIGER Will just point out that your point about Burton being anywhere is partly correct. He is a football prodigy according to my sources who has shown freakish talent as a kid in Dubbo. I guarantee that assuming not injured he will be wearing the Green and Gold within 5 years.
 
@happy_tiger said in [2020 and 2021 incomings and outgoings](/post/1047693) said:
Something I don't get from many of the forum (maybe every forum is the same ) , but what is it with the infatuation of bringing players back

If they are superstars maybe ...but many spoken about aren't

Marty Taupau would look good in a Wests Tigers jersey..
 
@Thaiger said in [2020 and 2021 incomings and outgoings](/post/1047732) said:
@TIGER Will just point out that your point about Burton being anywhere is partly correct. He is a football prodigy according to my sources who has shown freakish talent as a kid in Dubbo. I guarantee that assuming not injured he will be wearing the Green and Gold within 5 years.

He is a product of the Panthers spreading their tentacles on towns like Lithgow, Bathurst, Orange, Wellington and Dubbo with there Academies.
 
Thanks for some well written, new, sensible, interesting and common sense thoughts @tigerstprem2020. We need more of this, instead of the same old boring and repetitive drivel that comes from some of our forumers. Have a great day :relaxed:
 
G'day @DieHarder: if your post was directed to @tigerstprem2020 then I fully concur re your 'good post, and welcome to the forum'. It was a much-needed breath of fresh air.
 
Give the bloke a fair go @Harvey:skull_and_crossbones: : Our Forum needs blokes that come up with new and 'fresh' thoughts. I say well done @tigerstprem2020 :v:
 
@Thaiger said in [2020 and 2021 incomings and outgoings](/post/1047732) said:
I guarantee that assuming not injured he will be wearing the Green and Gold within 5 years.

That's a bold prediction, let's put a reminder to revisit in 2024.
 
G'day @tigerstprem2020: you followed up a really good post :v: with a disappointing post :skull_and_crossbones:
 
@tigerstprem2020 said in [2020 and 2021 incomings and outgoings](/post/1047730) said:
nah not really, just be tough with him

It's that easy! So easy that 2/16 clubs parted ways with him inside 6 months.

In fact we should get you down to Tigers HQ, when we re-sign Suli, to show him the tough love and keep him on the straight and narrow. You can be his minder.

Where were you when Andrew Walker was failing to show up for training? Dragons and Roosters needed you!
 
G'day @Kazoo-Kid: No!!! no player needs babying, but some players like some ordinary folk need more 'understanding and encouragement' to bring the 'best' out in them, and even then they may still be a square peg in a round hole at that particular club.
 
May as well dream a bit and throw the 💰at David Fifita for 2021
 
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