$50 Million reason Wests Tigers are prepared to quit Campbelltown.

There is a large number of kids playing League from Liverpool to Bowral that we should have and know need to tap into if this club is to grow. Campbelltown stadium is only a small part of the problem but Richo needs to understand that the council want to see if the club is really committed to the area.
 
I believe if there is to be a southwest HQ presence, it should be in the growth area around Camden/Narellan/Western Sydney Airport.
People who aren’t familiar with the area really have no comprehension just how massive the area is getting. 20 years ago, Camden Valley Way was all bush between Leppington and Narellan. Now you have Emerald Hills, Gregory Hills, Gledswood Hills, Oran Park, Harrington Park. It’s an area that is just going to keep expanding and expanding. I’m past being annoyed at people and the club not seeing any value in it. If they want to ignore it till another club comes in, well, more fool them.
 
My preference would be a revamped Campbelltown, I'm attached to the joint and miss regularly going there now I live on the Mid North Coast.
Ideally it would be something similar to the set up at Newcastle, but with at the very least a 30k capacity.

However, if it means a permanent presence in the Macarthur, if it has to be closer to Liverpool to attract the Bulldogs and others to play out there with an incorporated entertainment precinct around making it more much more attractive as a venue for government spending, then I'm all for it.

I spent over 3 decades sitting on the old seats next to the scoreboard at Lidcombe (where you could get the best game day hot dogs or an all too easy to eat Janson's Pie).
I also used to sit on the concourse in front of the grandstand at Leichhardt, the southern hill at Penrith Park, on the seats at the halfway at Brookvale, the northern hill at at Shark Park, on the halfway at Belmore likewise at Henson, under the big trees at North Sydney, on the concourse at the old showground (when the chooks played there), at the southern end of Seifert Oval & Canberra Stadium) on the halfway on the concourse of the Western stand at Newcastle.....
.....I also lived in Housing Commision at Airds and Bradbury for 10 years, I climbed Mt Druitt and survived 😂being originally a Rooty Hill boy....so I'm used to roughing it!
Why would we invite the fox in the henhouse ? There’s already 3 professional sports teams that could play out of C town , external of the bulldogs , in both our men’s and women’s teams and the bulls.
If the area doesn’t want to contribute to their own team , re support locally and atmosphere as well as the gov both local and state into rebuilding / renovating the existing infrastructure then we can’t play there .
I’m sick of that area using the one sided argument that the tigers only give tokenism to the area on match day .
Most other cities and areas have to buy a franchise by contributing financially , just look at the dolphins , bears and PNG . But yet C-town think that it’s the nrl that has to contribute to them … as if it’s 1980.
If the area ie. the government both state , local and federal , deem it to be an important infrastructure area , then they have to contribute to that . The biggest boon for a local area like Ctown is a football team . There’s no festivals , no real tourism attractions , they’re all down the road in the highlands , so I don’t understand their reluctance to it.
Like I said most cities buy their sporting teams from the relevant body . And the ones who take thier team for granted , have them pack up and move elsewhere .
Ctown is doubly screwed in this department . Because not only is there the potential to lose thier nrl team, but also there’s zero potential for another to come in as wests tigers owns that territory .
It’s extremely short sited from the government and political nonsense .
 
I believe if there is to be a southwest HQ presence, it should be in the growth area around Camden/Narellan/Western Sydney Airport.
Agreed , people in narrellan and Oran park , arnt going to C-town for much . Narrellan shopping centre is massive , now there’s train lines towards the airport , even train travel wouldn’t be necessary as much .
 
I believe if there is to be a southwest HQ presence, it should be in the growth area around Camden/Narellan/Western Sydney Airport.
Well you've got that area to the North of the Macarthur like you've mentioned, but there's huge growth now out to Appin & even Wilton, with hundreds of homes being built along with new shopping centres etc. Campbelltown is central to that huge catchment.
 
Well you've got that area to the North of the Macarthur like you've mentioned, but there's huge growth now out to Appin & even Wilton, with hundreds of homes being built along with new shopping centres etc. Campbelltown is central to that huge catchment.
I am supportive of a strong presence in the South West Growth area but not Campbellotwn. The Camden, Narellan, Sydney Airport as well as the areas you mention experience great growth and that is where we need to encourage boys and girls to take up the sport. The NSWRL as well as the NRL should be assisting our club.
 
People who aren’t familiar with the area really have no comprehension just how massive the area is getting. 20 years ago, Camden Valley Way was all bush between Leppington and Narellan. Now you have Emerald Hills, Gregory Hills, Gledswood Hills, Oran Park, Harrington Park. It’s an area that is just going to keep expanding and expanding. I’m past being annoyed at people and the club not seeing any value in it. If they want to ignore it till another club comes in, well, more fool them.
A Wests Tigers Leagues club in the Macarthur would also help, just brand it "Tigers" (that'll keep the Balmain boys happy) as Penrith did with "Panthers".
Slowly adding "experiences" as Panthers have done with their cable skiing, aqua golf etc (Tigers could offer something different).

It would also bec a bonus to borrow from the Panthers model and attract restaurants etc, Panthers is surrounded by them, yet still do well with their in-house eateries.
 
You not been paying attention much?
Parra were wooden spooners not long ago - and still had better crowds than us and 3 x our memberships - and theirs were real.
Parra fans aren’t going anywhere, they’ve been ordinary for a long while and they’re still got the wood on us
I am projecting that Richo might actually turn us into a proper footy club. Little bitta’ faith.
 
People who aren’t familiar with the area really have no comprehension just how massive the area is getting. 20 years ago, Camden Valley Way was all bush between Leppington and Narellan. Now you have Emerald Hills, Gregory Hills, Gledswood Hills, Oran Park, Harrington Park. It’s an area that is just going to keep expanding and expanding. I’m past being annoyed at people and the club not seeing any value in it. If they want to ignore it till another club comes in, well, more fool them.
Oran Park is a great example. Not so long ago it was a car racing track. Now their junior teams seem to be bossing it based on my quick glance at junior league ladders.
 
I know the jeanie has escaped the bottle but in the end the NRL is to blame for the situation with Sydney based clubs and the football grounds. The current situation is a mess brought on by their own lack of guidance

When they released their football ground base requirements (10 years ago?), they should also have proposed a policy to go with it on how its to reach fruition. I'd have suggested:

* acknowledge no club will have their own grounds anymore as it has been shown they are financially unable to to keep them up to date and modernize as necessary to meet new standards required.
* concept will be shared grounds, owned in part by the NRL and the clubs sharing.
* there are 9 Sydney region based clubs- Roosters, Rabbitohs, Sea Eagles, Bulldogs, Wests Tigers, Eels, Panthers, Saints, Sharks.
* From that number of clubs the NRL will support 4 grounds to be shared. Decisions will be based on things like transport availability, state of current options, demographics for NRL and general league interest.

In some ways the clubs are getting there but guidance remains non existent. We have Parramatta Commbank Stadium to be competing with Penrith Stadium (when upgraded), Homebush under-utilised and configured badly, the Moore Park Allianze Stadium built with public funds but claimed solely by Roosters. All other grounds are substandard- Leichhardt, Campbelltown, Brookvale, Shark Park, Kogarah and Belmore.

If we can get some NRL direction to overcome 'local'club specific demands / desires it would be possible to look at establishing the remaining shared grounds at (just possibles so dont kill me) Gosford and Liverpool. I think Homebush has to be updated and remodelled but the $$$ will have to come from somewhere as the funds have been used elsewhere I believe.
 
A Wests Tigers Leagues club in the Macarthur would also help, just brand it "Tigers" (that'll keep the Balmain boys happy) as Penrith did with "Panthers".
Slowly adding "experiences" as Panthers have done with their cable skiing, aqua golf etc (Tigers could offer something different).

It would also bec a bonus to borrow from the Panthers model and attract restaurants etc, Panthers is surrounded by them, yet still do well with their in-house eateries.

Again, isn't part of the problem, Ashfields relationship with Cambo. I'm not privy to the problems and if there are problems, how come Ashfield hasn't addressed them?

If that Leagues club at Cambo grew, how good would that be for the Wests Tigers.

Could this be a question for Richo?
 
Again, isn't part of the problem, Ashfields relationship with Cambo. I'm not privy to the problems and if there are problems, how come Ashfield hasn't addressed them?

If that Leagues club at Cambo grew, how good would that be for the Wests Tigers.

Could this be a question for Richo?
Campbelltown is a separate entity and is not a part of the Holman Barnes Group.
 
Maybe people should ask Dennis the Menace and his mates what was promised to the Campbelltown area years ago. If Campbelltown/Group 6 was run more efficiently and this is pre Richo i am complaining about then maybe we would see growth.
 
Oran Park is a great example. Not so long ago it was a car racing track. Now their junior teams seem to be bossing it based on my quick glance at junior league ladders.
Oran Park is a great location for a huge stadium, COE, water park and other attractions to establish a WTs presence in the SW growth area. We need to encourage these young families with boys and girls to play for WTs.

The NSWRL and NRL should assist WTs as our case is compelling. In the 20 years from 2021, Camden is set to experience an annual growth rate of 3.5%. The Austral-Greendale-Badgerys Creek area in Sydney’s south-west will add 54,000 people by 2041, more than any other suburb These are population projections released by the NSW Govt.
 
Oran Park is a great location for a huge stadium, COE, water park and other attractions to establish a WTs presence in the SW growth area. We need to encourage these young families with boys and girls to play for WTs.

The NSWRL and NRL should assist WTs as our case is compelling. In the 20 years from 2021, Camden is set to experience an annual growth rate of 3.5%. The Austral-Greendale-Badgerys Creek area in Sydney’s south-west will add 54,000 people by 2041, more than any other suburb These are population projections released by the NSW Govt.
Interesting you’d suggest a stadium there. There’s a lot of real estate out along the Northern Road around Cobbitty and Luddenham.
 
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