A crucial period for Madge...

[weststigerman]

I guess the question is now how long do we give Maguire without a finals appearance ..as it looks to me that 2021 is already excused ..

Not by me and with current circumstances, I would think that both parties shouldn't be looking at any possible extension until a couple of months into next season.

Remember the last year we did that? The big 4 wouldn’t commit without knowing who the coach is going forward.

Give him 2 more years IMO. No one will get us to finals with this roster.

 

[Geo]

I guess the question is now how long do we give Maguire without a finals appearance ..as it looks to me that 2021 is already excused ..

2023

Good to know ...so no slipper till 2024

 

[hobbo1]

I guess the question is now how long do we give Maguire without a finals appearance ..as it looks to me that 2021 is already excused ..

2023

Good to know ...so no slipper till 2024

I haven’t really slippered Madge that much ...
The players on the other hand ...
2023 is when Madge gets slippered if we don’t make the 8

 

[Tim Sheens]

I guess the question is now how long do we give Maguire without a finals appearance ..as it looks to me that 2021 is already excused ..

Not by me and with current circumstances, I would think that both parties shouldn't be looking at any possible extension until a couple of months into next season.

Remember the last year we did that? The big 4 wouldn’t commit without knowing who the coach is going forward.

Give him 2 more years IMO. No one will get us to finals with this roster.

Que sera sera, does anybody really believe that all, if any, of the three that left were going to stay anyway?

As for finals, most of the players that are still expensive cap wise were here in 2017 when we came ninth, then the team imploded due to Cleary in 2018 and Maguire came in to take them to ninth again. WT are in basically the same cap boat this season, with a squad that the coach has made at least a few reasonable changes to in moulding the team more to his liking, plus the bonus of Harry Grant. As such, this season has already been a failure for mine, particularly so when a good coach should be improving a team, just as any good manager would improve their team in any workplace.

 

[Telltails]

The most successful clubs are those with long term coaches. They also have the best rosters. If the cap is managed well the roster will be strengthened. We need to give it time or we can keep searching for quick fix and take two steps backwards to go forwards.

 

[Tigerbuck63]

I guess the question is now how long do we give Maguire without a finals appearance ..as it looks to me that 2021 is already excused ..

Well he has one year to run and I would like to see who he is able to off load and obtain.
Thad will determine if we give him another 3 year contract. I think the comments he made after being in the sideline we can still make the 8 rather him say nothing and does big give him much credibility to the supporters.
Be factual ding tell the players what they want the hear prefer to come out and say the season is most lurking gone now abc players are playing for there contracts now.
He keeps picking Mybe and has not dropped him this season, appointed him captain so some of his decisions are questionable ????
Sitting in the fence for now think he gets the change to sr lease see his contract out.

 

[bigsiro]

If Madge keeps Brooks and Benji then he is condemned.
Mbye is a passenger and JR hasn’t been anywhere near expectations. But those guys aren’t crucial to steering a team like the halves should be.
The rest of the team is average too, but if the halves are replaced then the likelihood of any new combination clicking immediately is very low, so next year will certainly be a transition year. We have to face that reality.
In that sense Madge should have next year to properly form a roster and work with players which suits his style.
I want stability at coach and I like Madge for our club. But if any of Benji, Brooks and Reynolds stay and we still suck this badly (Which would be inevitable in my opinion), then I will agree that Madge did not make the best decisions and his head will rightly be on the chopping block.

 

[Spartan117]

Madge is the Only one who has the resolve and vision to get the tigers out of the crap that this club has been for almost the entirety of our existence.

Apart from 2005, We have been largely the unstable, unpredictable club that few aspire to join.

We need to change the expectations in terms of performance, and if that means occasionally we loose a talented player who isn't willing to work hard then that's OK in the long run.

Unfortunately there is no line ti pick up any of our highest paid players. We have to ride the poor recruitment decisions of previous coaches for another year yet.

Madge is the only One.

 

[Russell]

Madge is the Only one who has the resolve and vision to get the tigers out of the crap that this club has been for almost the entirety of our existence.

Apart from 2005, We have been largely the unstable, unpredictable club that few aspire to join.

We need to change the expectations in terms of performance, and if that means occasionally we loose a talented player who isn't willing to work hard then that's OK in the long run.

Unfortunately there is no line ti pick up any of our highest paid players. We have to ride the poor recruitment decisions of previous coaches for another year yet.

Madge is the only One.

You change coach again - we are back to square one.

You cannot win any race, if you keep going back to the start.

Madge is it - stick with him or perish.

 

[Aesopian]

Madge is the Only one who has the resolve and vision to get the tigers out of the crap that this club has been for almost the entirety of our existence.

Apart from 2005, We have been largely the unstable, unpredictable club that few aspire to join.

We need to change the expectations in terms of performance, and if that means occasionally we loose a talented player who isn't willing to work hard then that's OK in the long run.

Unfortunately there is no line ti pick up any of our highest paid players. We have to ride the poor recruitment decisions of previous coaches for another year yet.

**Madge is the only One.**

Madge the Messiah. He shall liberate the Tigers from the depths of darkness

 

[Geo]

Madge is the Only one who has the resolve and vision to get the tigers out of the crap that this club has been for almost the entirety of our existence.

Apart from 2005, We have been largely the unstable, unpredictable club that few aspire to join.

We need to change the expectations in terms of performance, and if that means occasionally we loose a talented player who isn't willing to work hard then that's OK in the long run.

Unfortunately there is no line ti pick up any of our highest paid players. We have to ride the poor recruitment decisions of previous coaches for another year yet.

Madge is the only One.

You change coach again - we are back to square one.

You cannot win any race, if you keep going back to the start.

Madge is it - stick with him or perish.

The question was for how long..

Looks like an extension until 2023 is on the cards..next year the same roster issue will continue..you have stated that no one wants our duds..we are stuck with them..

So..If it's another 3 years without finals is that acceptable

 

[avocadoontoast]

So…If it’s another 3 years without finals is that acceptable

Absolutely not.

 

[WT2K]

Madge is the Only one who has the resolve and vision to get the tigers out of the crap that this club has been for almost the entirety of our existence.

Apart from 2005, We have been largely the unstable, unpredictable club that few aspire to join.

We need to change the expectations in terms of performance, and if that means occasionally we loose a talented player who isn't willing to work hard then that's OK in the long run.

Unfortunately there is no line ti pick up any of our highest paid players. We have to ride the poor recruitment decisions of previous coaches for another year yet.

Madge is the only One.

You change coach again - we are back to square one.

You cannot win any race, if you keep going back to the start.

Madge is it - stick with him or perish.

So..If it's another 3 years without finals is that acceptable

Absolutely not.

 

[JC99]

Madge is the Only one who has the resolve and vision to get the tigers out of the crap that this club has been for almost the entirety of our existence.

Apart from 2005, We have been largely the unstable, unpredictable club that few aspire to join.

We need to change the expectations in terms of performance, and if that means occasionally we loose a talented player who isn't willing to work hard then that's OK in the long run.

Unfortunately there is no line ti pick up any of our highest paid players. We have to ride the poor recruitment decisions of previous coaches for another year yet.

Madge is the only One.

You change coach again - we are back to square one.

You cannot win any race, if you keep going back to the start.

Madge is it - stick with him or perish.

The question was for how long..

Looks like an extension until 2023 is on the cards..next year the same roster issue will continue..you have stated that no one wants our duds..we are stuck with them..

So..If it's another 3 years without finals is that acceptable

Would be wanting finals in 2022 for sure. Next year maybe depending on who can he let go and if they can sign anyone good.

 

[earl]

So…If it’s another 3 years without finals is that acceptable

There isn't a choice. We have to develop a decent squad and it's going to take time. The problem is we don't know if Madge is the right guy because he doesn't the cattle to compete.

I'd definitely retain him for the next 3 years because to me he is making much better recruitment and retention decisions compared to the previous coaches that we've had.

 

[Russell]

Madge is the Only one who has the resolve and vision to get the tigers out of the crap that this club has been for almost the entirety of our existence.

Apart from 2005, We have been largely the unstable, unpredictable club that few aspire to join.

We need to change the expectations in terms of performance, and if that means occasionally we loose a talented player who isn't willing to work hard then that's OK in the long run.

Unfortunately there is no line ti pick up any of our highest paid players. We have to ride the poor recruitment decisions of previous coaches for another year yet.

Madge is the only One.

You change coach again - we are back to square one.

You cannot win any race, if you keep going back to the start.

Madge is it - stick with him or perish.

The question was for how long..

Looks like an extension until 2023 is on the cards..next year the same roster issue will continue..you have stated that no one wants our duds..we are stuck with them..

So..If it's another 3 years without finals is that acceptable

No, I don't think it is - but that gives Madge 3 years to turn it around big time.

Most of the duds would be gone, lots of good players off contract 2022 onwards
and we should have a decent amount to grab a few that we need + younsters that
have come on. We should be able to make the 8 without a problem, how far into
the 8 we'll know more in the next couple of years.

 

[happy_tiger]

People do realize it is going to take 3 years after we lose Mbye ,Packer ,Reynolds ,McQueen etc leave

I'm just not sure Madge is the answer ......Ok you'd go to Souths and take a chance with Madge's work ethic because you could see they were close to a premiership

But come to the WT's ...we are a hemisphere away from where Souths were when Madge took over and its probably 3 seasons until we even make the 8

That is what you have to get past in most players minds

 

[Curaeus]

So…If it’s another 3 years without finals is that acceptable

There isn't a choice. We have to develop a decent squad and it's going to take time. The problem is we don't know if Madge is the right guy because he doesn't the cattle to compete.

I'd definitely retain him for the next 3 years because to me he is making much better recruitment and retention decisions compared to the previous coaches that we've had.

Only rational way to go in my opinion.

 

[tig_prmz]

So…If it’s another 3 years without finals is that acceptable

There isn't a choice. **We have to develop a decent squad and it's going to take time.** The problem is we don't know if Madge is the right guy because he doesn't the cattle to compete.

I'd definitely retain him for the next 3 years because to me he is making much better recruitment and retention decisions compared to the previous coaches that we've had.

That I think is step 2. The first step is we need to develop the coaches off the field that can nurture the players from U16s up. Recruitment is only 5% of the battle, nurturing them, making them first grade material and then retaining them is the majority of it. Look at Penrith now, the players get so much assistance from all the coaches. Give the players something other than football, they all know how to play. What they need is assistance in life and when they have that stability, they will perform on the field too.

We have to accept some of the blame for letting people like teddy/moses/JAC etc go. They may be selfish but we need to show every teenager that we care about their welfare and the support we can provide is second to none.

I hate to bring up Mosese Fotuaika as that's the worst of it but we need to start putting a lot more things in place so no player has to feel like that again.

 

[oldschooltiger]

Madge might be the clean up coach for us like Brown was for Newcastle. If we dont make the semis 2022 we should look for another coach.