Absolute disaster, not first grade standard

[Harvey]

We might beat the knights and we might not. But can you imagine what the Donkeys will do to us.They'll beat us by 100 if we defend like we did today. I Hate the Boncos and most of their supporters but they will spank us. :frowning: :frowning: :frowning:

We will be missing Woods & Farah as it is the week before origin. They will be missing McGuire, Thaiday, Gillett, Parker, Boyd and possibly Hunt, Oates and Roberts. I have flashbacks to previous losses against the baby broncos

 

[stevetiger]

Until we can stump up cash to go into the market and have an extensive recruitment drive, we will continue to spin our wheels. Doesn't matter whose coaching.

I think the coach has to go first.

Sheens wasn't the answer,either was Potter, so punt Taylor and were sweet?

We won a title with Sheens and we were very good for a couple of seasons. Taylor has been terrible.

It's also not punt Taylor and then we're sweet. It's punt Taylor to see how much he has been stuffing us up and because you can't keep accepting the performances this team is putting out there.

 

[Russta]

We might beat the knights and we might not. But can you imagine what the Donkeys will do to us.They'll beat us by 100 if we defend like we did today. I Hate the Boncos and most of their supporters but they will spank us. :frowning: :frowning: :frowning:

We will be missing Woods & Farah as it is the week before origin. They will be missing McGuire, Thaiday, Gillett, Parker, Boyd and possibly Hunt, Oates and Roberts. I have flashbacks to previous losses against the baby broncos

Oh ok, well maybe they'll only beat us by 50 with their reserve grade side. :bawling

 

[stevied]

It might be worth bearing in mind we had lost 3 of our selected starting players (all forwards) before half time and two after I think 20 odd minutes. Its worth mentioning that every dud refereeing decision that was made - and there were plenty - went against us. At least three of their tries involved dud or dubious decisions. Also it happens that the Dogs came to play today and were as fired up as I have seen them since round 1\. An 'absolute disaster not first grade standard' was Newcastle today. I thought we played poorly, especially the halves who I am tiring of rapidly and Nofaluma. And Kevvie wasnt much if any better. However in the circumstances of the above, not a complete disaster.

This is a balanced and fair summary Pete. Yes, we were depleted, yes there were some dud decisions, yes, we played poorly and, yes, the Bulldogs were excellent. However, the underlying concern is the very poor tactics and execution in both defense and attack. Of course, this comes back to coaching.

 

[Furious1]

We might beat the knights and we might not. But can you imagine what the Donkeys will do to us.They'll beat us by 100 if we defend like we did today. I Hate the Boncos and most of their supporters but they will spank us. :frowning: :frowning: :frowning:

We will be missing Woods & Farah as it is the week before origin. They will be missing McGuire, Thaiday, Gillett, Parker, Boyd and possibly Hunt, Oates and Roberts. I have flashbacks to previous losses against the baby broncos

Don't worry about the flashbacks mate. Their second string line up which barring injury will still have Hunt and Milford would be getting paid more than our top line up

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

It might be worth bearing in mind we had lost 3 of our selected starting players (all forwards) before half time and two after I think 20 odd minutes. Its worth mentioning that every dud refereeing decision that was made - and there were plenty - went against us. At least three of their tries involved dud or dubious decisions. Also it happens that the Dogs came to play today and were as fired up as I have seen them since round 1\. An 'absolute disaster not first grade standard' was Newcastle today. I thought we played poorly, especially the halves who I am tiring of rapidly and Nofaluma. And Kevvie wasnt much if any better. However in the circumstances of the above, not a complete disaster.

This is a balanced and fair summary Pete. Yes, we were depleted, yes there were some dud decisions, yes, we played poorly and, yes, the Bulldogs were excellent. However, the underlying concern is the very poor tactics and execution in both defense and attack. Of course, this comes back to coaching.

Jeez, I'd love to see us stop crying about Refs , just once, decisions are crook for all teams at times, we bring most of the penalties on ourselves be, and a lot of them are dumb penalties. Caused by lazy players.

 

[balmain boy]

That was as bad a performance as the Canberra game. Right from the offset the players looked like they didn't give a crap. They weren't switched on and there was no-one on field trying to fire the boys up. Just going through the motions.

Geez the outside backs were woeful. Do people on here really think that players like Naiqama and Nofo would be playing first grade for any other side, apart from maybe Newcastle? Turnstiles in defence. We can't base our team around hot and cold players. They might look great from time to time, but then they'll go back to being nobody again for the next month. A consistently average player would be better value.

We need a new coach and a new captain. And probably 10 new faces in the squad next season.

 

[TJL]

They're the laziest team I have ever seen. On three occasions I counted eight of them taking up to tackle three to get back onside from a kick. It is obvious that they don't want to be there. They'll get done by Newcastle, again.

 

[WTDiehard]

They don't look a happy bunch.

Don't know what the issue is…..coach or players but as supporters you expect better. We don't expect to set the world on fire but RESPECTABLE for a change would be really nice.

The footy team is a $5M a year business....same as all the other sides apart from a few you have some 3rd party player agreements in place.....surely we should be capable after 5 lonely years of putting a side on the field that has some bXlls.

Either way its poor poor poor and re-enforces why I don't go out to the games anymore......its just a waste of a good day.

 

[1_4_chicken_chips]

We got pushed back into the in-goal twice ON TACKLE 2!!!!!.

And on both occasions rankin was involved …why does JT continue to play him and worse .play him in a position he is too slow for

 

[Magpie_Magic]

Seems like only our club can loose players before kickoff 2 weeks running.
What's with this warm up.

 

[tiger_one]

Seems like only our club can loose players before kickoff 2 weeks running.
What's with this warm up.

And just get back to the basics.
Face slapping anyone ??

 

[innsaneink]

It might be worth bearing in mind we had lost 3 of our selected starting players (all forwards) before half time and two after I think 20 odd minutes. Its worth mentioning that every dud refereeing decision that was made - and there were plenty - went against us. At least three of their tries involved dud or dubious decisions. **Also it happens that the Dogs came to play today and were as fired up as I have seen them since round 1.** An 'absolute disaster not first grade standard' was Newcastle today. I thought we played poorly, especially the halves who I am tiring of rapidly and Nofaluma. And Kevvie wasnt much if any better. However in the circumstances of the above, not a complete disaster.

They ambushed us?
Took us by surprise?
''…came to play, and were fired up...?''

Thats not worth bearing in mind....it should be a pre-requisite every bloody week....
...for us.

The worst dud decision (Hunt staying on) went our way
Sorry Pete I just see excuses

 

[NT_Tiger]

…..... Turnstiles in defence...........

Sorry but I have to disagree. In order for a turnstile to turn it has to make contact with something.
Breezeways perhaps?
A couple of weeks ago the WT defensive 'line' was used as a worst case scenario in a tactical review I saw. Our defensive structures and methods really are woeful at times.

 

[2041]

I think we're kidding ourselves if we think getting rid of Taylor will solve the problems. But Taylor is clearly one of the problems: he's hung his hat on defence since day one, and here we are 18 months later and the defence is, if anything, worse. He's either useless or the players aren't listening, and either way he's a lame duck. Has to go.

Having said that, this is the first time ever that I really don't see a route to improvement. The club has either wasted a crop of young players or vastly overrated them, it apparently still has no cap relief coming, there's no supplementary income, no progress on club facilities and minimal sign of any useful plan being in place to actually run the operation in a way that supports success.

2016 is gone, obviously, and I assume 2017 will be too - as there's no cap room and no sign of improvement from the young players who were meant to be the future core of the team. All I can think is that they should give Tedesco and Woods "name your price" deals for 2018 onwards and otherwise start from scratch completely. There are half a dozen players potentially worth keeping for 2018 on low salaries - Sue, Simona, Ava - but that really might be it. The only up side is that basically everyone is off contract after 2017 - maybe it really is time to blow the whole thing up for real.

 

[PYMBLEPETE]

It might be worth bearing in mind we had lost 3 of our selected starting players (all forwards) before half time and two after I think 20 odd minutes. Its worth mentioning that every dud refereeing decision that was made - and there were plenty - went against us. At least three of their tries involved dud or dubious decisions. **Also it happens that the Dogs came to play today and were as fired up as I have seen them since round 1.** An 'absolute disaster not first grade standard' was Newcastle today. I thought we played poorly, especially the halves who I am tiring of rapidly and Nofaluma. And Kevvie wasnt much if any better. However in the circumstances of the above, not a complete disaster.

They ambushed us?
Took us by surprise?
''…came to play, and were fired up...?''

Thats not worth bearing in mind....it should be a pre-requisite every bloody week....
...for us.

The worst dud decision (Hunt staying on) went our way
Sorry Pete I just see excuses

I dont know why you are being so nit picky about the highlighted sentence. Every team plays with a different intensity from week to week. Thats one of the main reasons why the best team isn't undefeated each season. I was simply opining that the Bulldogs seemed to be close to maximum intensity on Sunday.

 

[simonthetigerrrr]

Thats the best Ive seen the dogs this year.

Defense key…hard and in numbers all day.

They would have beaten anyone!

 

[CocaCola]

2016 is gone, obviously, and I assume 2017 will be too - as there's no cap room and no sign of improvement from the young players who were meant to be the future core of the team. All I can think is that they should give Tedesco and Woods "name your price" deals for 2018 onwards and otherwise start from scratch completely. There are half a dozen players potentially worth keeping for 2018 on low salaries - Sue, Simona, Ava - but that really might be it. The only up side is that basically everyone is off contract after 2017 - maybe it really is time to blow the whole thing up for real.

Tedesco is a top 5 player across the entire backline of the NRL. You build teams around special players like him. He is to us what Milford is to the Broncos.

Woods is a consistent performer & our best forward, but he's not a powerhouse forward to demand that sort of money.