Adam Blair Released ??

@phil1986 said:
Mate would love to pick up maitua in this trade if at all possible.
And in all honesty, player trade is probably the best case we could hope for in this circumstance, considering our current predicament regarding Blair's contract.

How about a swap for, reni maitua and Matt Ryan.

2 more forwards, Ryan was our junior.

I think
Anything other then a swap will well and truly disadvantage us even further.

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I have nothing against Maitua, but as a lightweight backrower he doesn't fit our needs. I rate Matt Ryan though.
 
id back matt ryan for the tigers
we need a tackling machine, he seems like a perfect replacement for hindy but sticky doesnt rate him
 
for crying out loud ,if Parras discards are the best we can do ,then we may well cut our losses and give it all away .Wehave heaps of younsters coming through that are already better than the hacks some are wanting …young Lovett will be up in the top grade soon
 
@1/4 chicken said:
for crying out loud ,if Parras discards are the best we can do ,then we may well cut our losses and give it all away .Wehave heaps of younsters coming through that are already better than the hacks some are wanting …young Lovett will be up in the top grade soon

If WT ever released Blair it would only on the basis that we then have enough money to buy a quality player not someone else's discards. No business can afford to keep running on financial losses and the same applies to a football team like WT.
 
@1/4 chicken said:
for crying out loud ,if Parras discards are the best we can do ,then we may well cut our losses and give it all away .Wehave heaps of younsters coming through that are already better than the hacks some are wanting …young Lovett will be up in the top grade soon

It does appear we have plenty of good juniors coming through, but I don't know if I can take 3 years of spoon while we wait.
 
Parra are getting rid of them for a reason.

Stuff this quantity over quality approach. Look at the Storm and Bunnies - two of the top teams this year and last - they put their money in a few players, Inglis and Burgess at Souths, the Big 3 at Melbourne, and build a team around that. We still need one or two more marquee players, preferably a prop, to build the squad around.
 
It's simple. We should NEVER again release a player and then STILL pay a portion of his salary. They perform or they schlump around in NSW Cup. If a player wants out or another club tries to snake in (looking at you sharks) they take the player AND the salary. Therefore Blair mans up and plays FG or he can get used to playing with the subbies. If parra or melb want then they can pay. I would rather pay him to play for us in some grade than have him go, keep paying him, and give him the chance to egg our face.

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@dazza65 said:
It's simple. We should NEVER again release a player and then STILL pay a portion of his salary. They perform or they schlump around in NSW Cup.

I really hope the club gets this.
 
IMO Blair is at his best a slightly above average first grader who has a lazy attitude plus some discipline issues,who won the lottery when we paid almost double what he is worth.We all thought he offered more,but sadly thats what he is & no more
The first issue,& that is the coaching challenge,is to address Blairs shortcomings & realise his potential..& thats Potters job.Assuming we can do that,then he becomes a $300k player…if someone else wants to pay out the majority of his contract at $500k or close to that sum,they can have him .
If Potter cant do that(which wld be a major concern)we either get someone to payout the majority of his contract(highly unlikely) or simply play him in the reserves (like Jennings)until his embaraassment hopefully jolts him into either lifting his game or leaving.
last thing we wish to do is pay a largish chunk of his salary to play against us..unless there are injury issues that may repeat,thats a lose/lose strategy
 
If Blair was to go to Parra( and hopefully he does) I think in monetary terms hs value would be around $300 000\. That's all they will probably pay and to ease there cap they may give us a player valued at around 150-200 k who is contracted to 2014 so we get about 300 to play with and a crapy player???Still better than Blair
 
Agree with the other posters, we play Blair at Prop and if he still not up to it, we drop him to reserve grade. Palming him off to another club, if they paid the full price, then that fine, ceya! But if we have to pay half his contract, were payinbg for him, so even if it isn't 1st grade, keep him. We are still paying for Gibbs and I think Fafita or Heighington. We must look like idiots to the league.
 
If the Panthers had to pay an alegeded 100K of Jennings contract this year, how much of Fairy's contract would we have to pay…

He's like one of those old tv's dumped outside on the street you can't even give away

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@jirskyr said:
@gazroc said:
If we had signed Blair for a lot less money, we wouldn't be talking about this at all. We payed overs for this player and that's it. You can't blame Blair for taking the money, the problem lies in recruitment.

Those in charge at the club really need to come clean on why they let current NSW front rower Andrew Fifita leave the club. The next slap in the face for us will be the performances from Jacob Miller over in England, he will be dynamite, mark my words and all our supporters will be saying the same thing about him as they have said about Fifita, why did we let them go.

Oh pull your heads in all you whingers. The Blair signing, at the time, was considered by most to be a good move. His cost reflected his standing in the game at the time; he wasn't some nuffy from reserve grade. Same as releasing Fifita, it was not seen as a major loss at the time. If Gibbs had been retained, there would probably be complaints about how much time he has spent injured.

Hindsight can make a fool of everyone, so I don't understand people getting up in arms about solid decisions that didn't turn out as intended. Our coach and CEO have both been removed, I don't know how much more blood-letting will satisfy.

If our management only ever made 100% correct predictions, they should quit and instead spend their time winning lotto or running through bookies.

Every club in the competition has bought players who haven't worked out, and released players that have gone onto better things. It is naive to think we are alone here.

no it wasn't a solid recruitment decision at all.
we went after a player that did not fit our system.

we also combined this horrible decision with gutting our front row stocks.
going into the 2012 season relying on 20 year olds to start and make up the bench rotation was stupid.
there was nothing solid about the recruitment for the 2012 season and beyond.
 
@bonstonker said:
no it wasn't a solid recruitment decision at all.
we went after a player that did not fit our system.

we also combined this horrible decision with gutting our front row stocks.
going into the 2012 season relying on 20 year olds to start and make up the bench rotation was stupid.
there was nothing solid about the recruitment for the 2012 season and beyond.

This is exactly what I think. Blair was a poor decision for us. I know why they went after him - we were losing Ellis and needed a quality replacement. The thing is they are very different players.

To add to the fact that he wasn't what we needed we also lost Fifita, Gibbs and Heighno. Fifita always looked like he was quality and Gibbs and Heighno offered us plenty.
 
@bonstonker said:
@jirskyr said:
@gazroc said:
If we had signed Blair for a lot less money, we wouldn't be talking about this at all. We payed overs for this player and that's it. You can't blame Blair for taking the money, the problem lies in recruitment.

Those in charge at the club really need to come clean on why they let current NSW front rower Andrew Fifita leave the club. The next slap in the face for us will be the performances from Jacob Miller over in England, he will be dynamite, mark my words and all our supporters will be saying the same thing about him as they have said about Fifita, why did we let them go.

Oh pull your heads in all you whingers. The Blair signing, at the time, was considered by most to be a good move. His cost reflected his standing in the game at the time; he wasn't some nuffy from reserve grade. Same as releasing Fifita, it was not seen as a major loss at the time. If Gibbs had been retained, there would probably be complaints about how much time he has spent injured.

Hindsight can make a fool of everyone, so I don't understand people getting up in arms about solid decisions that didn't turn out as intended. Our coach and CEO have both been removed, I don't know how much more blood-letting will satisfy.

If our management only ever made 100% correct predictions, they should quit and instead spend their time winning lotto or running through bookies.

Every club in the competition has bought players who haven't worked out, and released players that have gone onto better things. It is naive to think we are alone here.

no it wasn't a solid recruitment decision at all.
we went after a player that did not fit our system.

we also combined this horrible decision with gutting our front row stocks.
going into the 2012 season relying on 20 year olds to start and make up the bench rotation was stupid.
there was nothing solid about the recruitment for the 2012 season and beyond.

Couldn't have said it better myself. Gibbs was solid as best, same with Heighington, Fafita had the talent and size like Daine Laurie also had, but both were lazy and had attitude problems. I believe this is why they are no longer at the club, along with the fact we kept Woods, which to me is a better decision. Yeah, Fafita beat Woods to Origin, but woods is a way better payer anyday. Fafita is a impact player, Woods is a toiler. Decision made, move on.
 
@Shooshmeister said:
Agree with the other posters, we play Blair at Prop and if he still not up to it, we drop him to reserve grade. Palming him off to another club, if they paid the full price, then that fine, ceya! But if we have to pay half his contract, were payinbg for him, so even if it isn't 1st grade, keep him. We are still paying for Gibbs and I think Fafita or Heighington. We must look like idiots to the league.

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has any one stopped to think that maybe the so called atttitude problems thar fifita and laurie had , was just the fact that sheens did not have the man skills to teach them, it was easy for sheens to punt them than to work with them.
 
@bp tiger said:
has any one stopped to think that maybe the so called atttitude problems thar fifita and laurie had , was just the fact that sheens did not have the man skills to teach them, it was easy for sheens to punt them than to work with them.

Lots of people have said that, in fact its hard not to go 5 minutes on here without hearing about how Sheens has screwed us and is responsible for climate change.

Not that I disagree entirely about the coach wearing blame, but at the end of the day the players wear their share of it too.

Fifita came good, but Laurie went to Panthers/Knights and still couldn't get his crap sorted.
 
so how correct is this inside mail about his attitude.
because the inside mail on recruitment is pure crap.

and did the attitude turn crap after he signed a contract with the tigers and then got told he could go to the sharks instead of his so called team.

yeah my attitude would have sucked ass as well.
 
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