Alex Seyfarth #232

Vicious said:
No just stating facts that many often forget about.
If you thought our NRL side and Seyfarth were bad, did you also watch our NSW Cup side ?
The forwards were atrocious, only Matamua who made any impact in attack or defence. Sukkar was half decent, but I don’t think we need another young rookie in our NRL side just yet,
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The only forward in that team that made any impact is also one of our smallest. Sione Vahiu. Not saying we play him but if a backrower pushing 90kg is out playing our props and locks we have a serious problem.
 
Vicious said:
It’s either Seyfarth, Kepaoa or Matamua who have to be in the team every week, more than one of them if we get any injuries in the forwards, purely as we have nobody else.
We have short memories if we think back to late last season and saw Seyfarth play ok for us in short periods off the bench, this was mentioned by the commentary team a few times.
Obviously after a sub par trial game and a sub par round 1 he will likely go back to NSW Cup to work on his involvement, impact and one on one defence, particularly when covering for others, but the point is it’s not the last time he will be in our NRL 17 this season and if he’s selected off the bench there is every chance he can reproduce some of the games he played off the bench late last season.
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He has a maybe 5 game positive stint in 48 games. That’s a 10% positive rating for games he has played.

His fans always say he tries hard. That’s the issue his effort actually costs him and his talent ceiling is below average.

He had a good trial game against reggies warriors pack and then his last 2 hitouts have been terrible not even nsw cup level.

His level is a NSW Cup player.

He trained as a lock and was puffed out after 10mins. Like seriously it’s bad. He is out of his depth. He isn’t a lock not even close and Morris/Benji have it wrong.

He is off more than he has been on over his career and regular gives up a hold down infringement & trails the middle after it. His work rate with the ball is one of the most ineffective in the league for a forward.

To start as a 13 and be hooked & play only 22mins is a disaster. He looked gassed and off the pace. That’s not a sign of a nrl level good trainer either.

We need to stop looking at mediocre players living in hope and reality is some of these players just don’t have it to be a consistent NRL player.

He is 2 games off 50 games, is 25 - he should be improved & ready to go, hungry to hold a starting spot. He yet again failed and is plain and simply a wasted roster spot.

Our squad depth sucks big time we could pick any kid ahead of him and they will at least be equal to influence but at least have a chance to improve.

This season was never the play to challenge a final run so might as well try something for 1-2yrs time rather than right now.
 
Needaname said:
The only forward in that team that made any impact is also one of our smallest. Sione Vahiu. Not saying we play him but if a backrower pushing 90kg is out playing our props and locks we have a serious problem.
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I agree he always tries hard, just doesn’t look to have much speed or power about him.
 
Mighty_Tiger said:
He has a maybe 5 game positive stint in 48 games. That’s a 10% positive rating for games he has played.

His fans always say he tries hard. That’s the issue his effort actually costs him and his talent ceiling is below average.

He had a good trial game against reggies warriors pack and then his last 2 hitouts have been terrible not even nsw cup level.

His level is a NSW Cup player.

He trained as a lock and was puffed out after 10mins. Like seriously it’s bad. He is out of his depth. He isn’t a lock not even close and Morris/Benji have it wrong.

He is off more than he has been on over his career and regular gives up a hold down infringement & trails the middle after it. His work rate with the ball is one of the most ineffective in the league for a forward.

To start as a 13 and be hooked & play only 22mins is a disaster. He looked gassed and off the pace. That’s not a sign of a nrl level good trainer either.

We need to stop looking at mediocre players living in hope and reality is some of these players just don’t have it to be a consistent NRL player.

He is 2 games off 50 games, is 25 - he should be improved & ready to go, hungry to hold a starting spot. He yet again failed and is plain and simply a wasted roster spot.

Our squad depth sucks big time we could pick any kid ahead of him and they will at least be equal to influence but at least have a chance to improve.

This season was never the play to challenge a final run so might as well try something for 1-2yrs time rather than right now.
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Hopefully under Richo gone are the days where mediocrity is rewarded with contract extensions
 
Mighty_Tiger said:
He has a maybe 5 game positive stint in 48 games. That’s a 10% positive rating for games he has played.

His fans always say he tries hard. That’s the issue his effort actually costs him and his talent ceiling is below average.

He had a good trial game against reggies warriors pack and then his last 2 hitouts have been terrible not even nsw cup level.

His level is a NSW Cup player.

He trained as a lock and was puffed out after 10mins. Like seriously it’s bad. He is out of his depth. He isn’t a lock not even close and Morris/Benji have it wrong.

He is off more than he has been on over his career and regular gives up a hold down infringement & trails the middle after it. His work rate with the ball is one of the most ineffective in the league for a forward.

To start as a 13 and be hooked & play only 22mins is a disaster. He looked gassed and off the pace. That’s not a sign of a nrl level good trainer either.

We need to stop looking at mediocre players living in hope and reality is some of these players just don’t have it to be a consistent NRL player.

He is 2 games off 50 games, is 25 - he should be improved & ready to go, hungry to hold a starting spot. He yet again failed and is plain and simply a wasted roster spot.

Our squad depth sucks big time we could pick any kid ahead of him and they will at least be equal to influence but at least have a chance to improve.

This season was never the play to challenge a final run so might as well try something for 1-2yrs time rather than right now.
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And that’s the reason why I assume he’s only on a minimal fringe player type contract.
If he continues to under perform it will not be hard to offload him, unlike some of the under performing players we currently have on big contracts and will therefore be extremely hard to offload should they continue to under perform.
 
Buttface said:
Vicious said:
Vicious said:
It’s either Seyfarth, Kepaoa or Matamua who have to be in the team every week, more than one of them if we get any injuries in the forwards, purely as we have nobody else.
We have short memories if we think back to late last season and saw Seyfarth play ok for us in short periods off the bench, this was mentioned by the commentary team a few times.
Obviously after a sub par trial game and a sub par round 1 he will likely go back to NSW Cup to work on his involvement, impact and one on one defence, particularly when covering for others, but the point is it’s not the last time he will be in our NRL 17 this season and if he’s selected off the bench there is every chance he can reproduce some of the games he played off the bench late last season.
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It’s either Seyfarth, Kepaoa or Matamua who have to be in the team every week, more than one of them if we get any injuries in the forwards, purely as we have nobody else.
We have short memories if we think back to late last season and saw Seyfarth play ok for us in short periods off the bench, this was mentioned by the commentary team a few times.
Obviously after a sub par trial game and a sub par round 1 he will likely go back to NSW Cup to work on his involvement, impact and one on one defence, particularly when covering for others, but the point is it’s not the last time he will be in our NRL 17 this season and if he’s selected off the bench there is every chance he can reproduce some of the games he played off the bench late last season.
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Matamua must be unwilling to take the tube steak - better than Seyfarth and Kepaoa but never selected.
 
Given that Fainu played non-stop after Seyfarth came off, I wonder if Bateman moves to #13 to get him more involved & Fainu moves into the starting 2nd row.

Seyfarth being hauled, Sullivan being hauled suggests to me that Benji is much more ruthless than people give him credit for.

Watch for Simpkin & Lualili'i next week on the bench...
 
TonyTiger said:
Matamua must be unwilling to take the tube steak - better than Seyfarth and Kepaoa but never selected.
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Is he better though? I haven’t seen it in the few reggies and few NRL games I’ve seen him play. I started watching him to see what the hype was about and never seen him play a good game. Even in the reggies he played ok but I was penning a letter to mum.
 
In support of Seyfarth however....clubs are built on the efforts of players. I don't doubt that Seyfarth works hard.

As a player on the edges of 1st grade, but primarily a reserve grader- his work ethic can rub off on others. I just don't think he can consistantly hold up & bigger, more aggressive players dominate him to easily.
 
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