Aloiai

[Deleted member 3518]

Josh needs to realise one good season doesn’t make him a world class forward who should be getting huge money. A 10% upgrade from one good season seems pretty reasonable to me

Clearly Madge and hartigan aren’t going to pay players more than they’re worth and won’t even bother talking about it with the players, it’s a take it or leave it type deal.


There is no way to sugar coat this one....you don't treat a bloke like Josh, who is a legit club man, this way.

Madge did none of the main recruiting at Souths. Hartigan was an absolute no one at the Roosters ....do you really think anyone other than Politis and Robinson did their recruiting?

We have serious issues that need to be addressed in terms of retention and recruitment. I admire fans like you who only want to see good, but there comes a time when we need to realise stuff is wrong.

I have a mate who has been involved with the club and sponsored it for decades who basically got auto replies on emails and never assisted for ages and now is giving up.

You don't treat people like this and expect loyalty back.

Regardless of value, you don't treat a bloke who busted his butt all year for us like this also . One of the only ones who did.

By offering him a contract ? WE CAME 11th !!! And everyone talks about how many metres said player got . Cool . How many tries were scored against us in the middle third ? I’ll tell you .... a bucket load . Every single player , in our squad who wasn’t signed after December last year (excluding BJ because he needs to lift ) has to be put on notice . That crap we offered up in the last 10 rounds was by and large , WEAK! I know guys put in , but it cannot be tolerated , and everyone needs to be put on notice . You can start making demands and big contracts when we win. If you’re here on a big contract , hopefully it meant you won here or Somewhere else .
I know it’s harsh , but Jesus , that’s the game .

 

[tiga4eva]

Josh needs to realise one good season doesn’t make him a world class forward who should be getting huge money. A 10% upgrade from one good season seems pretty reasonable to me

Clearly Madge and hartigan aren’t going to pay players more than they’re worth and won’t even bother talking about it with the players, it’s a take it or leave it type deal.

His contract is modest, 10% is measly. And after November 1 he realised how much other clubs valued him

If other clubs wants to pay overs for him clearly tigers won’t stand in his way. They’ve been pretty set on not giving guys more then they’re worth

If Josh was that upset about it he should talk to the club about it I’m sure they didn’t mean to upset him, Madge is obviously a big fan of his but he’s had a lot of injury issues and only 1 good season can’t expect too much

Geez its clear he isn’t being offered market value or even shown some respect to think about things.

Lets break this down. His current deal is 50k a season less than what he was offered before. We offered 10% on what he earns....He isn’t earning market value for a starting prop and I have no doubts at least 4-5 clubs would be circling him. He is a quality prop, not the best in the world but he is nrl quality & in the top half as well.

Our mgmt are absolutely crap at the moment. We are chasing shiny objects and forgetting about keeping talent & our brand within an already crap market place.

No, he could’ve got 50k more at another Sydney Club when he re-signed last time

 

[tiga4eva]

Guys,
I’ve been sitting on some info for about 5-6 weeks. I’ve never told you guys, but I count Josh Aloiai as one of my closest friends, we speak in some form basically every day. In September he texted me about his excitement of starting negotiations to extend his stay at WT. He was excited and felt that in the next 2-3 seasons he could develop into a real leader at the Club. Leaving the WT never entered his mind.

The first offer Josh received for 2022 is only slightly more than his current deal. He was disappointed at the offer because he would be 27 in 2022 and getting to the peak of his powers. He rejected the offer, Adam Hartigan came back to him with another offer which was approx 10% more than his current deal and gave Josh a 24hr deadline to accept this offer. To put it lightly, Josh was devastated, he knows that when a Club issues a deadline to a player, especially when the offer was way below expectations shows a lack of appreciation and value as a player and as a human. He is married and recently became a Dad, he deserved more than 24hrs to discuss these terms with his Wife.

The Club let these negotiations stall until November and now other Clubs have shown substantial interest. In 2019 Josh played with a broken hand until he had a part of a rib inserted into his hand which now acts as a hand muscle. Every game this year he played with rib damage which required needles EVERY game.
He gives his all every time he sets foot on the field, but these negotiations have turned him off the Club deluxe. I cringed when I saw a few post that this is about money. It isn’t, if it was he would’ve left 2 years ago, he sacrificed 50k to re-sign with us then.
This is why we never improve as a Club, because we have another player who will play the prime of his career at another Club. As a fan, I don’t want him to leave, as a friend, I know I can’t expect him to stay.
Their handling of this has been woeful. They’ve lost a kid, who 6 weeks ago, would never have ever contemplated or considered playing for another side.

Does Josh Aloiai have a manager?

Yes he does

 

[mike]

Guys,
I’ve been sitting on some info for about 5-6 weeks. I’ve never told you guys, but I count Josh Aloiai as one of my closest friends, we speak in some form basically every day. In September he texted me about his excitement of starting negotiations to extend his stay at WT. He was excited and felt that in the next 2-3 seasons he could develop into a real leader at the Club. Leaving the WT never entered his mind.

The first offer Josh received for 2022 is only slightly more than his current deal. He was disappointed at the offer because he would be 27 in 2022 and getting to the peak of his powers. He rejected the offer, Adam Hartigan came back to him with another offer which was approx 10% more than his current deal and gave Josh a 24hr deadline to accept this offer. To put it lightly, Josh was devastated, he knows that when a Club issues a deadline to a player, especially when the offer was way below expectations shows a lack of appreciation and value as a player and as a human. He is married and recently became a Dad, he deserved more than 24hrs to discuss these terms with his Wife.

The Club let these negotiations stall until November and now other Clubs have shown substantial interest. In 2019 Josh played with a broken hand until he had a part of a rib inserted into his hand which now acts as a hand muscle. Every game this year he played with rib damage which required needles EVERY game.
He gives his all every time he sets foot on the field, but these negotiations have turned him off the Club deluxe. I cringed when I saw a few post that this is about money. It isn’t, if it was he would’ve left 2 years ago, he sacrificed 50k to re-sign with us then.
This is why we never improve as a Club, because we have another player who will play the prime of his career at another Club. As a fan, I don’t want him to leave, as a friend, I know I can’t expect him to stay.
Their handling of this has been woeful. They’ve lost a kid, who 6 weeks ago, would never have ever contemplated or considered playing for another side.

Does Josh Aloiai have a manager?


Yes he does

So would it be his management that approached the club?

 

[Deleted member 3518]

If you were his friend you wouldn't put his business out like that in public. 10% upgrade is huge In footy speak. 1 decent season doesn't make you a premier forward. Samoan international yeah, Keaon Koloamatangi has shown more promise with a quarter of the budget. He's a Burwood boy too.

10% increase when you’re on a modest contract? Going into the prime of your career?
I’m not gonna argue my friendship with him

Thank you for sharing this insight, it’s interesting that we give the elite guys months to make decisions but club stalwarts much less.

I’m only mentioning it because of today’s news about McIntyre. There has to be some sort of disconnect between Management and Coach because Josh has always had a great relationship with Madge. Maybe Hartigan is realising when you’re not at the Chooks, things work differently

Hey mate , can I ask a question ? I believe you , so I’m going to ask , why doesn’t Josh just prove it this year ? I get he has a young family and needs his future secured , but seriously , most on here in the lockdown period were saying “who cares “ . I didn’t agree , but , that was the common sentiment about josh . I was stoked he took the step up this year , But he’s hardly been a world beater prior to this . I get your point , but I don’t think it’s disloyalty , considering how average we’ve been for so long .


Physically, Josh has given his all here. The 24hr deadline crushed him but because negotiations dragged, November 1 passed and more than one Club showed immediate interest. Perfect storm for a disillusioned guy

Take the money personally . His career is short , and our window isn’t now . Like I said , I rate him , but he’s been a big part of a losing side . I was hoping he would be our forward leader , but I really don’t see how he can be so upset considering where the club is at , and , how until this year , honestly how average his play has been. It’s harsh , but honest feedback . And I say that’s exactly how the club feels . That last 10 weeks was diabolical . Defensively the team gave up at times , and mostly it was in the middle third and benjis lack of tackling. There has to be some accountability for that .

 

[tiga4eva]

If you were his friend you wouldn't put his business out like that in public. 10% upgrade is huge In footy speak. 1 decent season doesn't make you a premier forward. Samoan international yeah, Keaon Koloamatangi has shown more promise with a quarter of the budget. He's a Burwood boy too.

10% increase when you’re on a modest contract? Going into the prime of your career?
I’m not gonna argue my friendship with him

Thank you for sharing this insight, it’s interesting that we give the elite guys months to make decisions but club stalwarts much less.

I’m only mentioning it because of today’s news about McIntyre. There has to be some sort of disconnect between Management and Coach because Josh has always had a great relationship with Madge. Maybe Hartigan is realising when you’re not at the Chooks, things work differently

Hey mate , can I ask a question ? I believe you , so I’m going to ask , why doesn’t Josh just prove it this year ? I get he has a young family and needs his future secured , but seriously , most on here in the lockdown period were saying “who cares “ . I didn’t agree , but , that was the common sentiment about josh . I was stoked he took the step up this year , But he’s hardly been a world beater prior to this . I get your point , but I don’t think it’s disloyalty , considering how average we’ve been for so long .


Physically, Josh has given his all here. The 24hr deadline crushed him but because negotiations dragged, November 1 passed and more than one Club showed immediate interest. Perfect storm for a disillusioned guy

Take the money personally . His career is short , and our window isn’t now . Like I said , I rate him , but he’s been a big part of a losing side . I was hoping he would be our forward leader , but I really don’t see how he can be so upset considering where the club is at , and , how until this year , honestly how average his play has been. It’s harsh , but honest feedback . And I say that’s exactly how the club feels . That last 10 weeks was diabolical . Defensively the team gave up at times , and mostly it was in the middle third and benjis lack of tackling. There has to be some accountability for that .

The beauty of this forum mate, everyone’s entitled to their opinion

 

[tiga4eva]

Guys,
I’ve been sitting on some info for about 5-6 weeks. I’ve never told you guys, but I count Josh Aloiai as one of my closest friends, we speak in some form basically every day. In September he texted me about his excitement of starting negotiations to extend his stay at WT. He was excited and felt that in the next 2-3 seasons he could develop into a real leader at the Club. Leaving the WT never entered his mind.

The first offer Josh received for 2022 is only slightly more than his current deal. He was disappointed at the offer because he would be 27 in 2022 and getting to the peak of his powers. He rejected the offer, Adam Hartigan came back to him with another offer which was approx 10% more than his current deal and gave Josh a 24hr deadline to accept this offer. To put it lightly, Josh was devastated, he knows that when a Club issues a deadline to a player, especially when the offer was way below expectations shows a lack of appreciation and value as a player and as a human. He is married and recently became a Dad, he deserved more than 24hrs to discuss these terms with his Wife.

The Club let these negotiations stall until November and now other Clubs have shown substantial interest. In 2019 Josh played with a broken hand until he had a part of a rib inserted into his hand which now acts as a hand muscle. Every game this year he played with rib damage which required needles EVERY game.
He gives his all every time he sets foot on the field, but these negotiations have turned him off the Club deluxe. I cringed when I saw a few post that this is about money. It isn’t, if it was he would’ve left 2 years ago, he sacrificed 50k to re-sign with us then.
This is why we never improve as a Club, because we have another player who will play the prime of his career at another Club. As a fan, I don’t want him to leave, as a friend, I know I can’t expect him to stay.
Their handling of this has been woeful. They’ve lost a kid, who 6 weeks ago, would never have ever contemplated or considered playing for another side.

Does Josh Aloiai have a manager?


Yes he does

So would it be his management that approached the club?

No, the Club instigated negotiations

 

[mike]

Guys,
I’ve been sitting on some info for about 5-6 weeks. I’ve never told you guys, but I count Josh Aloiai as one of my closest friends, we speak in some form basically every day. In September he texted me about his excitement of starting negotiations to extend his stay at WT. He was excited and felt that in the next 2-3 seasons he could develop into a real leader at the Club. Leaving the WT never entered his mind.

The first offer Josh received for 2022 is only slightly more than his current deal. He was disappointed at the offer because he would be 27 in 2022 and getting to the peak of his powers. He rejected the offer, Adam Hartigan came back to him with another offer which was approx 10% more than his current deal and gave Josh a 24hr deadline to accept this offer. To put it lightly, Josh was devastated, he knows that when a Club issues a deadline to a player, especially when the offer was way below expectations shows a lack of appreciation and value as a player and as a human. He is married and recently became a Dad, he deserved more than 24hrs to discuss these terms with his Wife.

The Club let these negotiations stall until November and now other Clubs have shown substantial interest. In 2019 Josh played with a broken hand until he had a part of a rib inserted into his hand which now acts as a hand muscle. Every game this year he played with rib damage which required needles EVERY game.
He gives his all every time he sets foot on the field, but these negotiations have turned him off the Club deluxe. I cringed when I saw a few post that this is about money. It isn’t, if it was he would’ve left 2 years ago, he sacrificed 50k to re-sign with us then.
This is why we never improve as a Club, because we have another player who will play the prime of his career at another Club. As a fan, I don’t want him to leave, as a friend, I know I can’t expect him to stay.
Their handling of this has been woeful. They’ve lost a kid, who 6 weeks ago, would never have ever contemplated or considered playing for another side.

Does Josh Aloiai have a manager?


Yes he does

So would it be his management that approached the club?

No, the Club instigated negotiations

Directly with Josh or with Josh’s management?

 

[Hangonaminute]

He's a bench player at best

 

[Deleted member 3518]

If you were his friend you wouldn't put his business out like that in public. 10% upgrade is huge In footy speak. 1 decent season doesn't make you a premier forward. Samoan international yeah, Keaon Koloamatangi has shown more promise with a quarter of the budget. He's a Burwood boy too.

10% increase when you’re on a modest contract? Going into the prime of your career?
I’m not gonna argue my friendship with him

Thank you for sharing this insight, it’s interesting that we give the elite guys months to make decisions but club stalwarts much less.

I’m only mentioning it because of today’s news about McIntyre. There has to be some sort of disconnect between Management and Coach because Josh has always had a great relationship with Madge. Maybe Hartigan is realising when you’re not at the Chooks, things work differently

Hey mate , can I ask a question ? I believe you , so I’m going to ask , why doesn’t Josh just prove it this year ? I get he has a young family and needs his future secured , but seriously , most on here in the lockdown period were saying “who cares “ . I didn’t agree , but , that was the common sentiment about josh . I was stoked he took the step up this year , But he’s hardly been a world beater prior to this . I get your point , but I don’t think it’s disloyalty , considering how average we’ve been for so long .


Physically, Josh has given his all here. The 24hr deadline crushed him but because negotiations dragged, November 1 passed and more than one Club showed immediate interest. Perfect storm for a disillusioned guy

Take the money personally . His career is short , and our window isn’t now . Like I said , I rate him , but he’s been a big part of a losing side . I was hoping he would be our forward leader , but I really don’t see how he can be so upset considering where the club is at , and , how until this year , honestly how average his play has been. It’s harsh , but honest feedback . And I say that’s exactly how the club feels . That last 10 weeks was diabolical . Defensively the team gave up at times , and mostly it was in the middle third and benjis lack of tackling. There has to be some accountability for that .


The beauty of this forum mate, everyone’s entitled to their opinion

Yep definitely . I appreciate your sharing this though . And I appreciate josh for his effort . But I’m not going to bag the club for drawing lines in the sand . The giving 24 hrs is piss poor though, and really seems unnecessarily cold , especially considering we didn’t or haven’t signed anyone instead , which would make sense if you think about it .

 

[tiga4eva]

Guys,
I’ve been sitting on some info for about 5-6 weeks. I’ve never told you guys, but I count Josh Aloiai as one of my closest friends, we speak in some form basically every day. In September he texted me about his excitement of starting negotiations to extend his stay at WT. He was excited and felt that in the next 2-3 seasons he could develop into a real leader at the Club. Leaving the WT never entered his mind.

The first offer Josh received for 2022 is only slightly more than his current deal. He was disappointed at the offer because he would be 27 in 2022 and getting to the peak of his powers. He rejected the offer, Adam Hartigan came back to him with another offer which was approx 10% more than his current deal and gave Josh a 24hr deadline to accept this offer. To put it lightly, Josh was devastated, he knows that when a Club issues a deadline to a player, especially when the offer was way below expectations shows a lack of appreciation and value as a player and as a human. He is married and recently became a Dad, he deserved more than 24hrs to discuss these terms with his Wife.

The Club let these negotiations stall until November and now other Clubs have shown substantial interest. In 2019 Josh played with a broken hand until he had a part of a rib inserted into his hand which now acts as a hand muscle. Every game this year he played with rib damage which required needles EVERY game.
He gives his all every time he sets foot on the field, but these negotiations have turned him off the Club deluxe. I cringed when I saw a few post that this is about money. It isn’t, if it was he would’ve left 2 years ago, he sacrificed 50k to re-sign with us then.
This is why we never improve as a Club, because we have another player who will play the prime of his career at another Club. As a fan, I don’t want him to leave, as a friend, I know I can’t expect him to stay.
Their handling of this has been woeful. They’ve lost a kid, who 6 weeks ago, would never have ever contemplated or considered playing for another side.

Does Josh Aloiai have a manager?


Yes he does

So would it be his management that approached the club?

No, the Club instigated negotiations

Directly with Josh or with Josh’s management?

Not sure but I’d presume Management

 

[tiga4eva]

If you were his friend you wouldn't put his business out like that in public. 10% upgrade is huge In footy speak. 1 decent season doesn't make you a premier forward. Samoan international yeah, Keaon Koloamatangi has shown more promise with a quarter of the budget. He's a Burwood boy too.

10% increase when you’re on a modest contract? Going into the prime of your career?
I’m not gonna argue my friendship with him

Thank you for sharing this insight, it’s interesting that we give the elite guys months to make decisions but club stalwarts much less.

I’m only mentioning it because of today’s news about McIntyre. There has to be some sort of disconnect between Management and Coach because Josh has always had a great relationship with Madge. Maybe Hartigan is realising when you’re not at the Chooks, things work differently

Hey mate , can I ask a question ? I believe you , so I’m going to ask , why doesn’t Josh just prove it this year ? I get he has a young family and needs his future secured , but seriously , most on here in the lockdown period were saying “who cares “ . I didn’t agree , but , that was the common sentiment about josh . I was stoked he took the step up this year , But he’s hardly been a world beater prior to this . I get your point , but I don’t think it’s disloyalty , considering how average we’ve been for so long .


Physically, Josh has given his all here. The 24hr deadline crushed him but because negotiations dragged, November 1 passed and more than one Club showed immediate interest. Perfect storm for a disillusioned guy

Take the money personally . His career is short , and our window isn’t now . Like I said , I rate him , but he’s been a big part of a losing side . I was hoping he would be our forward leader , but I really don’t see how he can be so upset considering where the club is at , and , how until this year , honestly how average his play has been. It’s harsh , but honest feedback . And I say that’s exactly how the club feels . That last 10 weeks was diabolical . Defensively the team gave up at times , and mostly it was in the middle third and benjis lack of tackling. There has to be some accountability for that .


The beauty of this forum mate, everyone’s entitled to their opinion

Yep definitely . I appreciate your sharing this though . And I appreciate josh for his effort . But I’m not going to bag the club for drawing lines in the sand . The giving 24 hrs is piss poor though, and really seems unnecessarily cold , especially considering we didn’t or haven’t signed anyone instead , which would make sense if you think about it .

Yep. The deadline was a shocking unnecessary move

 

[Deleted member 3518]

If you were his friend you wouldn't put his business out like that in public. 10% upgrade is huge In footy speak. 1 decent season doesn't make you a premier forward. Samoan international yeah, Keaon Koloamatangi has shown more promise with a quarter of the budget. He's a Burwood boy too.

10% increase when you’re on a modest contract? Going into the prime of your career?
I’m not gonna argue my friendship with him

Thank you for sharing this insight, it’s interesting that we give the elite guys months to make decisions but club stalwarts much less.

I’m only mentioning it because of today’s news about McIntyre. There has to be some sort of disconnect between Management and Coach because Josh has always had a great relationship with Madge. Maybe Hartigan is realising when you’re not at the Chooks, things work differently

Hey mate , can I ask a question ? I believe you , so I’m going to ask , why doesn’t Josh just prove it this year ? I get he has a young family and needs his future secured , but seriously , most on here in the lockdown period were saying “who cares “ . I didn’t agree , but , that was the common sentiment about josh . I was stoked he took the step up this year , But he’s hardly been a world beater prior to this . I get your point , but I don’t think it’s disloyalty , considering how average we’ve been for so long .


Physically, Josh has given his all here. The 24hr deadline crushed him but because negotiations dragged, November 1 passed and more than one Club showed immediate interest. Perfect storm for a disillusioned guy

Take the money personally . His career is short , and our window isn’t now . Like I said , I rate him , but he’s been a big part of a losing side . I was hoping he would be our forward leader , but I really don’t see how he can be so upset considering where the club is at , and , how until this year , honestly how average his play has been. It’s harsh , but honest feedback . And I say that’s exactly how the club feels . That last 10 weeks was diabolical . Defensively the team gave up at times , and mostly it was in the middle third and benjis lack of tackling. There has to be some accountability for that .


The beauty of this forum mate, everyone’s entitled to their opinion

Yep definitely . I appreciate your sharing this though . And I appreciate josh for his effort . But I’m not going to bag the club for drawing lines in the sand . The giving 24 hrs is piss poor though, and really seems unnecessarily cold , especially considering we didn’t or haven’t signed anyone instead , which would make sense if you think about it .

Yep. The deadline was a shocking unnecessary move

So that was Hartigan ? Seems like he just wants to put a broom through the place to be honest . I can’t really blame him . I get the loyalty , but we really are treading water . I would have thought josh was a keeper though

 

[gallagher]

Been a weird week.

 

[BAGNF05]

If you were his friend you wouldn't put his business out like that in public. 10% upgrade is huge In footy speak. 1 decent season doesn't make you a premier forward. Samoan international yeah, Keaon Koloamatangi has shown more promise with a quarter of the budget. He's a Burwood boy too.

10% increase when you’re on a modest contract? Going into the prime of your career?
I’m not gonna argue my friendship with him

Thank you for sharing this insight, it’s interesting that we give the elite guys months to make decisions but club stalwarts much less.

I’m only mentioning it because of today’s news about McIntyre. There has to be some sort of disconnect between Management and Coach because Josh has always had a great relationship with Madge. Maybe Hartigan is realising when you’re not at the Chooks, things work differently

Hey mate , can I ask a question ? I believe you , so I’m going to ask , why doesn’t Josh just prove it this year ? I get he has a young family and needs his future secured , but seriously , most on here in the lockdown period were saying “who cares “ . I didn’t agree , but , that was the common sentiment about josh . I was stoked he took the step up this year , But he’s hardly been a world beater prior to this . I get your point , but I don’t think it’s disloyalty , considering how average we’ve been for so long .


Physically, Josh has given his all here. The 24hr deadline crushed him but because negotiations dragged, November 1 passed and more than one Club showed immediate interest. Perfect storm for a disillusioned guy

Take the money personally . His career is short , and our window isn’t now . Like I said , I rate him , but he’s been a big part of a losing side . I was hoping he would be our forward leader , but I really don’t see how he can be so upset considering where the club is at , and , how until this year , honestly how average his play has been. It’s harsh , but honest feedback . And I say that’s exactly how the club feels . That last 10 weeks was diabolical . Defensively the team gave up at times , and mostly it was in the middle third and benjis lack of tackling. There has to be some accountability for that .


The beauty of this forum mate, everyone’s entitled to their opinion

Yep definitely . I appreciate your sharing this though . And I appreciate josh for his effort . But I’m not going to bag the club for drawing lines in the sand . The giving 24 hrs is piss poor though, and really seems unnecessarily cold , especially considering we didn’t or haven’t signed anyone instead , which would make sense if you think about it .

Yep. The deadline was a shocking unnecessary move

So that was Hartigan ? Seems like he just wants to put a broom through the place to be honest . I can’t really blame him . I get the loyalty , but we really are treading water . I would have thought josh was a keeper though

Maybe the egg shells meeting was worse than reported?

 

[tiga4eva]

If you were his friend you wouldn't put his business out like that in public. 10% upgrade is huge In footy speak. 1 decent season doesn't make you a premier forward. Samoan international yeah, Keaon Koloamatangi has shown more promise with a quarter of the budget. He's a Burwood boy too.

10% increase when you’re on a modest contract? Going into the prime of your career?
I’m not gonna argue my friendship with him

Thank you for sharing this insight, it’s interesting that we give the elite guys months to make decisions but club stalwarts much less.

I’m only mentioning it because of today’s news about McIntyre. There has to be some sort of disconnect between Management and Coach because Josh has always had a great relationship with Madge. Maybe Hartigan is realising when you’re not at the Chooks, things work differently

Hey mate , can I ask a question ? I believe you , so I’m going to ask , why doesn’t Josh just prove it this year ? I get he has a young family and needs his future secured , but seriously , most on here in the lockdown period were saying “who cares “ . I didn’t agree , but , that was the common sentiment about josh . I was stoked he took the step up this year , But he’s hardly been a world beater prior to this . I get your point , but I don’t think it’s disloyalty , considering how average we’ve been for so long .


Physically, Josh has given his all here. The 24hr deadline crushed him but because negotiations dragged, November 1 passed and more than one Club showed immediate interest. Perfect storm for a disillusioned guy

Take the money personally . His career is short , and our window isn’t now . Like I said , I rate him , but he’s been a big part of a losing side . I was hoping he would be our forward leader , but I really don’t see how he can be so upset considering where the club is at , and , how until this year , honestly how average his play has been. It’s harsh , but honest feedback . And I say that’s exactly how the club feels . That last 10 weeks was diabolical . Defensively the team gave up at times , and mostly it was in the middle third and benjis lack of tackling. There has to be some accountability for that .


The beauty of this forum mate, everyone’s entitled to their opinion

Yep definitely . I appreciate your sharing this though . And I appreciate josh for his effort . But I’m not going to bag the club for drawing lines in the sand . The giving 24 hrs is piss poor though, and really seems unnecessarily cold , especially considering we didn’t or haven’t signed anyone instead , which would make sense if you think about it .

Yep. The deadline was a shocking unnecessary move

So that was Hartigan ? Seems like he just wants to put a broom through the place to be honest . I can’t really blame him . I get the loyalty , but we really are treading water . I would have thought josh was a keeper though

It was Hartigan.

 

[cochise]

If you were his friend you wouldn't put his business out like that in public. 10% upgrade is huge In footy speak. 1 decent season doesn't make you a premier forward. Samoan international yeah, Keaon Koloamatangi has shown more promise with a quarter of the budget. He's a Burwood boy too.

10% increase when you’re on a modest contract? Going into the prime of your career?
I’m not gonna argue my friendship with him

Thank you for sharing this insight, it’s interesting that we give the elite guys months to make decisions but club stalwarts much less.

I’m only mentioning it because of today’s news about McIntyre. There has to be some sort of disconnect between Management and Coach because Josh has always had a great relationship with Madge. Maybe Hartigan is realising when you’re not at the Chooks, things work differently

Hey mate , can I ask a question ? I believe you , so I’m going to ask , why doesn’t Josh just prove it this year ? I get he has a young family and needs his future secured , but seriously , most on here in the lockdown period were saying “who cares “ . I didn’t agree , but , that was the common sentiment about josh . I was stoked he took the step up this year , But he’s hardly been a world beater prior to this . I get your point , but I don’t think it’s disloyalty , considering how average we’ve been for so long .


Physically, Josh has given his all here. The 24hr deadline crushed him but because negotiations dragged, November 1 passed and more than one Club showed immediate interest. Perfect storm for a disillusioned guy

Take the money personally . His career is short , and our window isn’t now . Like I said , I rate him , but he’s been a big part of a losing side . I was hoping he would be our forward leader , but I really don’t see how he can be so upset considering where the club is at , and , how until this year , honestly how average his play has been. It’s harsh , but honest feedback . And I say that’s exactly how the club feels . That last 10 weeks was diabolical . Defensively the team gave up at times , and mostly it was in the middle third and benjis lack of tackling. There has to be some accountability for that .


The beauty of this forum mate, everyone’s entitled to their opinion

Yep definitely . I appreciate your sharing this though . And I appreciate josh for his effort . But I’m not going to bag the club for drawing lines in the sand . The giving 24 hrs is piss poor though, and really seems unnecessarily cold , especially considering we didn’t or haven’t signed anyone instead , which would make sense if you think about it .

Yep. The deadline was a shocking unnecessary move

So that was Hartigan ? Seems like he just wants to put a broom through the place to be honest . I can’t really blame him . I get the loyalty , but we really are treading water . I would have thought josh was a keeper though


It was Hartigan.

Honestly mate, I don't think this is something you should be sharing on here. I would keep information my mate shared with me private as you do not know who reads these forums.

 

[hodgo]

I love Josh one of my fav players but 500k thats the same proce as haas.

 

[tiga4eva]

If you were his friend you wouldn't put his business out like that in public. 10% upgrade is huge In footy speak. 1 decent season doesn't make you a premier forward. Samoan international yeah, Keaon Koloamatangi has shown more promise with a quarter of the budget. He's a Burwood boy too.

10% increase when you’re on a modest contract? Going into the prime of your career?
I’m not gonna argue my friendship with him

Thank you for sharing this insight, it’s interesting that we give the elite guys months to make decisions but club stalwarts much less.

I’m only mentioning it because of today’s news about McIntyre. There has to be some sort of disconnect between Management and Coach because Josh has always had a great relationship with Madge. Maybe Hartigan is realising when you’re not at the Chooks, things work differently

Hey mate , can I ask a question ? I believe you , so I’m going to ask , why doesn’t Josh just prove it this year ? I get he has a young family and needs his future secured , but seriously , most on here in the lockdown period were saying “who cares “ . I didn’t agree , but , that was the common sentiment about josh . I was stoked he took the step up this year , But he’s hardly been a world beater prior to this . I get your point , but I don’t think it’s disloyalty , considering how average we’ve been for so long .


Physically, Josh has given his all here. The 24hr deadline crushed him but because negotiations dragged, November 1 passed and more than one Club showed immediate interest. Perfect storm for a disillusioned guy

Take the money personally . His career is short , and our window isn’t now . Like I said , I rate him , but he’s been a big part of a losing side . I was hoping he would be our forward leader , but I really don’t see how he can be so upset considering where the club is at , and , how until this year , honestly how average his play has been. It’s harsh , but honest feedback . And I say that’s exactly how the club feels . That last 10 weeks was diabolical . Defensively the team gave up at times , and mostly it was in the middle third and benjis lack of tackling. There has to be some accountability for that .


The beauty of this forum mate, everyone’s entitled to their opinion

Yep definitely . I appreciate your sharing this though . And I appreciate josh for his effort . But I’m not going to bag the club for drawing lines in the sand . The giving 24 hrs is piss poor though, and really seems unnecessarily cold , especially considering we didn’t or haven’t signed anyone instead , which would make sense if you think about it .

Yep. The deadline was a shocking unnecessary move

So that was Hartigan ? Seems like he just wants to put a broom through the place to be honest . I can’t really blame him . I get the loyalty , but we really are treading water . I would have thought josh was a keeper though


It was Hartigan.

Honestly mate, I don't think this is something you should be sharing on here. I would keep information my mate shared with me private as you do not know who reads these forums.

Were all on here because we love the Wests Tigers. I think we’re still as dysfunctional as we’ve always been. I don’t post things Josh tells me on here because it would merely be for gossip sake. But we are perennial losers and I hate that our Management isn’t up to scratch. I thought everyone deserved to know this one

 

[cochise]

If you were his friend you wouldn't put his business out like that in public. 10% upgrade is huge In footy speak. 1 decent season doesn't make you a premier forward. Samoan international yeah, Keaon Koloamatangi has shown more promise with a quarter of the budget. He's a Burwood boy too.

10% increase when you’re on a modest contract? Going into the prime of your career?
I’m not gonna argue my friendship with him

Thank you for sharing this insight, it’s interesting that we give the elite guys months to make decisions but club stalwarts much less.

I’m only mentioning it because of today’s news about McIntyre. There has to be some sort of disconnect between Management and Coach because Josh has always had a great relationship with Madge. Maybe Hartigan is realising when you’re not at the Chooks, things work differently

Hey mate , can I ask a question ? I believe you , so I’m going to ask , why doesn’t Josh just prove it this year ? I get he has a young family and needs his future secured , but seriously , most on here in the lockdown period were saying “who cares “ . I didn’t agree , but , that was the common sentiment about josh . I was stoked he took the step up this year , But he’s hardly been a world beater prior to this . I get your point , but I don’t think it’s disloyalty , considering how average we’ve been for so long .


Physically, Josh has given his all here. The 24hr deadline crushed him but because negotiations dragged, November 1 passed and more than one Club showed immediate interest. Perfect storm for a disillusioned guy

Take the money personally . His career is short , and our window isn’t now . Like I said , I rate him , but he’s been a big part of a losing side . I was hoping he would be our forward leader , but I really don’t see how he can be so upset considering where the club is at , and , how until this year , honestly how average his play has been. It’s harsh , but honest feedback . And I say that’s exactly how the club feels . That last 10 weeks was diabolical . Defensively the team gave up at times , and mostly it was in the middle third and benjis lack of tackling. There has to be some accountability for that .


The beauty of this forum mate, everyone’s entitled to their opinion

Yep definitely . I appreciate your sharing this though . And I appreciate josh for his effort . But I’m not going to bag the club for drawing lines in the sand . The giving 24 hrs is piss poor though, and really seems unnecessarily cold , especially considering we didn’t or haven’t signed anyone instead , which would make sense if you think about it .

Yep. The deadline was a shocking unnecessary move

So that was Hartigan ? Seems like he just wants to put a broom through the place to be honest . I can’t really blame him . I get the loyalty , but we really are treading water . I would have thought josh was a keeper though


It was Hartigan.

Honestly mate, I don't think this is something you should be sharing on here. I would keep information my mate shared with me private as you do not know who reads these forums.


Were all on here because we love the Wests Tigers. I think we’re still as dysfunctional as we’ve always been. I don’t post things Josh tells me on here because it would merely be for gossip sake. But we are perennial losers and I hate that our Management isn’t up to scratch. I thought everyone deserved to know this one

The issue is it could cause more problems for Josh if it gets back to the club, which is not impossible. I would hate for matters to get worse as I really like Josh but will have to hate him if he lines up for manly ;p