Are Fifita and Gibbs off to the Sharks?

[Moh]

Sick of these rumours. The club need to come out and say something already.

To keep so many average players like Flanagan, Beau and Moors and not be able to secure Fifita is just ridiculous if true. McKinnon, Gibbs is going and Payten is retiring, surely there is room for Fifita.

Unprofessional. That's what the Tigers are.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

wow there is alot of smart business man in here.

Well considering we appear to be losing AT LEAST 4 of our main 17 and only signing 1 for next year due to being over the cap, there's probably more on here then at WTs!!

Unconditionally Defending the club is why we need a culture change.

Hell of a lot of assumptions you leaping to there. My understanding is that Gibbs & Fulton are sacrificial due to Blair. The case with Fifita is his _contract_ is up at the end of this year. Now there is an option for next year but options are tricky and none of us know what form of option that is. Some are in favour of one party, some the favour of the other party, most in both and are able to be broken unilateraly. To me thats what this sounds like. Sounds like Tigers tried to exercise their option and keep Fifita at a bargain rate under the option of the Contract, Fifita has been offered a motza from Cronulla and is therefore able to exercise _his_ option to get out. Thats what it looks like to me from the outside and if thats the case the club can not be blamed (nor can Fifita to be honest).

The club is at fault simply because they want to go after Blair.. getting rid of 3 players (maybe more) to get 1 player is a joke its bad managment skills

WRONG!!! there is more to it then just trying to make room for Blair

 

[Moh]

Explain it or just shut up. Sometimes it seems this forum is full of attention-seeking kids. Grow up.

If you know something, good for you; don't mention it if you're not going to share it. It's really simple.

 

[Gary_Bakerloo]

Hell of a lot of assumptions you leaping to there. My understanding is that Gibbs & Fulton are sacrificial due to Blair. The case with Fifita is his _contract_ is up at the end of this year. Now there is an option for next year :crazy but options are tricky and none of us know what form of option that is. Some are in favour of one party, some the favour of the other party, most in both and are able to be broken unilateraly. To me thats what this sounds like. Sounds like Tigers tried to exercise their option and keep Fifita at a bargain rate under the option of the Contract, Fifita has been offered a motza from Cronulla and is therefore able to exercise _his_ option to get out. Thats what it looks like to me from the outside and if thats the case the club can not be blamed (nor can Fifita to be honest).

Good post. It sounds to me like a European option and he has merely given an indication he would look to exercise. Under this form of option, it all depends whether fifita wishes to exercise or not when his contract expires at the end of this season.

I would think under a this type of option, fifita can sign with the sharks now and just let his option expire. Just smart from fifita in my view.

 

[innsaneink]

WRONG!!! **there is more to it** then just trying to make room for Blair

Lets hear it then

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Explain it or just shut up. Sometimes it seems this forum is full of attention-seeking kids. Grow up.

If you know something, good for you; don't mention it if you're not going to share it. It's really simple.

i don't know anything,nor am i claiming or dropping any hints.I personally can't stand attention seekers who play the 'i know something you don't ' game.I was just stating an opinion,and what i believe is that there is more to it then them trying to accomadate Blair.I don't think even Lamb would be that stupid to release 4 players in order to sign 1

 

[king_sirro]

This is just guessing, but to me it looks like we are replacing Payten with Blair, Gibbs with Groat, and Fifita with Begovich…........Fulton and Heighno to stay.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

WRONG!!! **there is more to it** then just trying to make room for Blair

Lets hear it then

refer to my above post.I don't think Fifita has anything to do with Blair or the cap.I believe that the Sharks are so desperate they are willing to pay overs for a guy who has only played about 30 games,and the tigers don't think he's worth it at this point in time.I think releasing McKinnon and the early retirement of Payten are good things as i believe they would have just been taking up space in 2012.Payten is finished and Mckinnon is to injury prone.IMO the only player being let go for Blair is Gibbs,something which im all for,coz if i had to choose 1 over the other i'd take Blair in a split second.Everything i have said is only based on my opinion,it has nothing to do with 'inside knowledge' nor am i trying to hint i know more then i am letting on.I can't stand when ppl do that as much as im sure you do

 

[AmericanHistoryX]

the main thing is fifita is gone - we have to move on and the show must go on!

 

[THE_POM]

Bryce Gibbs has it all over his facebook and twitter pages, that he and Fifita are going to cronulla next year, which absoulty sucks, i see that in no way is blair worth this, it's costing us our loyalty, some great long serving players, up and coming talent, and ultimatly are 2011 season, with all this distraction and disharmony

 

[coopy]

One thing that seems to be forgotten is that Gibbs is a long time servant of the club and is approaching a salary cap dispensation. I know we got in trouble this year for him and Farah but surely it must be next year (or the year after).

To my mind there is something more to this as why you move on someone who will qualify for a salary cap dispensation and not someone else?

Perhaps there is something rotten in the court of concord

 

[innsaneink]

Ten years service next season….not many players acheive this.
No wonder he's dirty

 

[Moh]

WRONG!!! **there is more to it** then just trying to make room for Blair

Lets hear it then

refer to my above post.I don't think Fifita has anything to do with Blair or the cap.I believe that the Sharks are so desperate they are willing to pay overs for a guy who has only played about 30 games,and the tigers don't think he's worth it at this point in time.I think releasing McKinnon and the early retirement of Payten are good things as i believe they would have just been taking up space in 2012.Payten is finished and Mckinnon is to injury prone.IMO the only player being let go for Blair is Gibbs,something which im all for,coz if i had to choose 1 over the other i'd take Blair in a split second.Everything i have said is only based on my opinion,it has nothing to do with 'inside knowledge' nor am i trying to hint i know more then i am letting on.I can't stand when ppl do that as much as im sure you do

All good mate, just the way you worded your earlier reply made it sound that way.

the main thing is fifita is gone - we have to move on and the show must go on!

Go on then, give us a solid source - don't tell me Gibbs' twitter/facebook page.

 

[innsaneink]

Moh theres a link in another thread to foxsports where humpty is quoted as saying theyre negotiating, all but done & dusted
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http://www.foxsports.com.au/league/nrl-premiership/wests-tigers-coach-tim-sheens-says-his-sides-injury-list-has-caused-huge-problems-for-his-nrl-side/story-fn2mcuj6-1226073196330

Sheens hinted at being resigned to losing props Andrew Fifita and Bryce Gibbs who have been negotiating with Cronulla this week, but the veteran coach said nothing had been rubber-stamped with the Sharks yet.

"There is negotiations going on at the minute with Cronulla but it is the hands of the administrators," he said.

Both players would be granted early releases to join Shane Flanagan's side, with Gibbs still having three years left on his deal and Fifita 12 months.

Tigers chief executive Stephen Humphreys said nothing had been agreed between the two parties yet, but expected there to be news on that front very soon.

"It would be wrong of me to go into details about contracts, but I think there will be some movement next week," Humphreys told AAP.
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Love how sheens never uses injury as an excuse

 

[bigdamo]

ho boy this club is a basket case as ive said before how on earth did we win the comp =noyce the old wests club were a terrible run club the tigers not much better now they cant balance books letting good players go keeping crap geez oh boy what a mess and trying to win games forget it

 

[tiger05]

I can't see how Fifita isn't gone now. This is bad.

Blair better be good if we get him.

 

[AmericanHistoryX]

WRONG!!! **there is more to it** then just trying to make room for Blair

Lets hear it then

refer to my above post.I don't think Fifita has anything to do with Blair or the cap.I believe that the Sharks are so desperate they are willing to pay overs for a guy who has only played about 30 games,and the tigers don't think he's worth it at this point in time.I think releasing McKinnon and the early retirement of Payten are good things as i believe they would have just been taking up space in 2012.Payten is finished and Mckinnon is to injury prone.IMO the only player being let go for Blair is Gibbs,something which im all for,coz if i had to choose 1 over the other i'd take Blair in a split second.Everything i have said is only based on my opinion,it has nothing to do with 'inside knowledge' nor am i trying to hint i know more then i am letting on.I can't stand when ppl do that as much as im sure you do

All good mate, just the way you worded your earlier reply made it sound that way.

the main thing is fifita is gone - we have to move on and the show must go on!

Go on then, give us a solid source - don't tell me Gibbs' twitter/facebook page.

who are you?

 

[Moh]

That is a brilliant reply.

You've really put me in my place champ, too bad you've made yourself look like a goose while you were at it. All class.

 

[AmericanHistoryX]

so im a goose - big deal - fifita is gone - thats it. pm me if you want to know. mods run the show - as far as im concerned if they say its cool then its cool -

 

[AmericanHistoryX]

actually ive changed my mind - dont pm me - you reply irks me - but anyone else is welcome - but really you dont have to - like i said fifita is gone.