Balmain Tigers’ future secured with funding agreement with NRL and Western Suburbs

[Guest]

Personal attacks on one another won't be tolerated. Stick to the topic please or the thread closes.

 

[Patts]

Its been already said but Wests Tigers did this because is a wise business decision for a couple of reasons.

The 'Tiger' brand is a very valuable asset and the majority of fans were originally Balmain fans.

It would not be wise for the Magpies to get to ahead of themselves because pokies will continue to play less of a role in contributing to a football club than the football team itself. Twenty years down the track the poor and rich are more likely to support the Tiger than the Magpie. For example the major sponsor is of course a Tiger.

The Tiger is here to stay, the heart and sole of the Westsssssss Tigers.

I disagree that the majority of fans came from the Balmain side however I can understand why you and many others feel and think that way.

While I've been a very proud Wests Tigers supporter since their inception I became a very passive supporter for a lot of years because I felt the club was disproportionately Balmain flavoured. I know many other old Magpies supporters felt the same. While they are genuine WT fans, they have avoided platforms such as forums to discuss their thoughts on how the club should be run because it's been futile. I think more old magpies will find their voice and I think similarly some old Balmain fans will become less vocal under the new structure.

 

[tigermac88]

Its been already said but Wests Tigers did this because is a wise business decision for a couple of reasons.

The 'Tiger' brand is a very valuable asset and the majority of fans were originally Balmain fans.

It would not be wise for the Magpies to get to ahead of themselves because pokies will continue to play less of a role in contributing to a football club than the football team itself. Twenty years down the track the poor and rich are more likely to support the Tiger than the Magpie. For example the major sponsor is of course a Tiger.

The Tiger is here to stay, the heart and sole of the Westsssssss Tigers.

I disagree that the majority of fans came from the Balmain side however I can understand why you and many others feel and think that way.

While I've been a very proud Wests Tigers supporter since their inception I became a very passive supporter for a lot of years because I felt the club was disproportionately Balmain flavoured. I know many other old Magpies supporters felt the same. While they are genuine WT fans, they have avoided platforms such as forums to discuss their thoughts on how the club should be run because it's been futile. I think more old magpies will find their voice and I think similarly some old Balmain fans will become less vocal under the new structure.

 

[Telltails]

Its been already said but Wests Tigers did this because is a wise business decision for a couple of reasons.

The 'Tiger' brand is a very valuable asset and the majority of fans were originally Balmain fans.

It would not be wise for the Magpies to get to ahead of themselves because pokies will continue to play less of a role in contributing to a football club than the football team itself. Twenty years down the track the poor and rich are more likely to support the Tiger than the Magpie. For example the major sponsor is of course a Tiger.

The Tiger is here to stay, the heart and sole of the Westsssssss Tigers.

I disagree that the majority of fans came from the Balmain side however I can understand why you and many others feel and think that w
While I've been a very proud Wests Tigers supporter since their inception I became a very passive supporter for a lot of years because I felt the club was disproportionately Balmain flavoured. I know many other old Magpies supporters felt the same. While they are genuine WT fans, they have avoided platforms such as forums to discuss their thoughts on how the club should be run because it's been futile. I think more old magpies will find their voice and I think similarly some old Balmain fans will become less vocal under the new structure.

Cant understand why you would think that. How will the new structure effect how you support the team? You are either with them or your not. My interest has never been in how the board was made up and which colours dominated the jersey. A Wests dominated board will have no impact on why I follow the JV more interested on what happens on the field and I cant see myself becoming any less vocal about that. The board will either do a good job for the Wests Tigers or they wont and I guess that it will be measured by how successful they are.
As far as vocal supporters go - plenty of old Magpie supporters on here who have had no trouble finding their voice.

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

My bottom line is that I am pleased that the WT venture stays out of private hands and that one day - just one day, someone rich will donate a lot of money to re-establish the Balmain side to equity. Fairy land yes but has occurred in a few other groups I have been involved in, one was the Melbourne Chess Club was a recipient of a premises. Usually someone on their deathbed who has had a life long association with the body. Strictly speaking I don't life to see sport privatised though it has been happening for decades here and abroad.

 

[Chunk]

Its been already said but Wests Tigers did this because is a wise business decision for a couple of reasons.

The 'Tiger' brand is a very valuable asset and the majority of fans were originally Balmain fans.

It would not be wise for the Magpies to get to ahead of themselves because pokies will continue to play less of a role in contributing to a football club than the football team itself. Twenty years down the track the poor and rich are more likely to support the Tiger than the Magpie. For example the major sponsor is of course a Tiger.

The Tiger is here to stay, the heart and sole of the Westsssssss Tigers.

I disagree that the majority of fans came from the Balmain side however I can understand why you and many others feel and think that way.

While I've been a very proud Wests Tigers supporter since their inception I became a very passive supporter for a lot of years because I felt the club was disproportionately Balmain flavoured. I know many other old Magpies supporters felt the same. While they are genuine WT fans, they have avoided platforms such as forums to discuss their thoughts on how the club should be run because it's been futile. I think more old magpies will find their voice and I think similarly some old Balmain fans will become less vocal under the new structure.

The majority of fans did come from the Balmain side of the JV, its a fact but anyway private ownership is the way of the future, it will happen sooner or later. There could be some 15 year old kid who will loves the Tigers now who could end up buying the club.

I'll never be disillusioned with the club (like the large majority of old Balmain fans) if its what's best for the WT's, even if the decisions seems skewed to the Magpie side of things.

The difference is a number of old Magpie fans have never accepted the fact that branding and pushing the Tiger was best for the club.

 

[Patts]

Its been already said but Wests Tigers did this because is a wise business decision for a couple of reasons.

The 'Tiger' brand is a very valuable asset and the majority of fans were originally Balmain fans.

It would not be wise for the Magpies to get to ahead of themselves because pokies will continue to play less of a role in contributing to a football club than the football team itself. Twenty years down the track the poor and rich are more likely to support the Tiger than the Magpie. For example the major sponsor is of course a Tiger.

The Tiger is here to stay, the heart and sole of the Westsssssss Tigers.

I disagree that the majority of fans came from the Balmain side however I can understand why you and many others feel and think that way.

While I've been a very proud Wests Tigers supporter since their inception I became a very passive supporter for a lot of years because I felt the club was disproportionately Balmain flavoured. I know many other old Magpies supporters felt the same. While they are genuine WT fans, they have avoided platforms such as forums to discuss their thoughts on how the club should be run because it's been futile. I think more old magpies will find their voice and I think similarly some old Balmain fans will become less vocal under the new structure.

The majority of fans did come from the Balmain side of the JV, its a fact but anyway private ownership is the way of the future, it will happen sooner or later. There could be some 15 year old kid who will loves the Tigers now who could end up buying the club.

I'll never be disillusioned with the club (like the large majority of old Balmain fans) if its what's best for the WT's, even if the decisions seems skewed to the Magpie side of things.

The difference is a number of old Magpie fans have never accepted the fact that branding and pushing the Tiger was best for the club.

Mate, I’m 42 years old. To this day most of my mates support Canterbury, Parramatta or Manly. WHY? Because when my age group were kids and easily influenced, these were the winning teams. And kids are fickle and want to be associated with winning over most other things. Ultimately that initial support, develops into loyalty and love and that’s how you win a generation of fans. No doubt our period of the mid 2000’s won the heart and souls of many 5 to 12 years old’s and that's great for us.

Balmain had a great period at the end of the 1980’s so I often find there’s a lot of Balmain supporters in the mid 30’s. The Maggies had 20 fairly lean years leading up to the JV; when they were more concerned with their very survival. If it seems like Balmain has more supporters it will be due to the demographics of these supports but you really need to look at the entire supporter base from age 0 to 100\. Only a fraction of this age bracket are active on forums and facebooks or even attend games. South's fans for all their recent success have a relatively small online presence. Add to this the magpie fans have felt their side of the JV has been under represented, and eventually you get people making up bogus facts.
Also, keep in mind the Wests Magpie’s are still a very active club in so many leagues; way beyond just HM & SGB. They are continuing to develop new supporters and most of these will flow on to become Wests Tigers supporters. Again, this is great for the Wests Tigers.

 

[Geo]

3rd day past the 2nd deadline extension *****Crickets…

 

[hammertime]

Since the parra scandal has now unfolded and we've got some pretty clear cases of incompetency and refusal to take blame, just wondering if anyone has changed their thought on the Wests Tigers ownership structure?

Is everyone still happy for us to be controlled by the leagues clubs again with no checks and balances ?

 

[glebe_tiger]

It is what it is atm and its not ideal. In time all clubs will end up being privately owned. The current model is stuck in the 80s.

 

[gallagher]

Since the parra scandal has now unfolded and we've got some pretty clear cases of incompetency and refusal to take blame, just wondering if anyone has changed their thought on the Wests Tigers ownership structure?

Is everyone still happy for us to be controlled by the leagues clubs again with no checks and balances ?

I don't see what your getting at? Only a leagues club structure would be able to cheat? Whats the connection your making?

 

[hammertime]

Since the parra scandal has now unfolded and we've got some pretty clear cases of incompetency and refusal to take blame, just wondering if anyone has changed their thought on the Wests Tigers ownership structure?

Is everyone still happy for us to be controlled by the leagues clubs again with no checks and balances ?

I don't see what your getting at? Only a leagues club structure would be able to cheat? Whats the connection your making?

Similar thread to before Gallagher. You get guys that aren't hired for their business acumen, but politics within a club structure.

But more pressing was the lack of governance. There are much less checks and balances in our new structure, we removing closer to the parra model again instead of further away.

 

[Patts]

Rest easy; while ever Balmain retains partial ownership we'll never be in a financial position to have to worry about a salary cap scandal.
I have no issue with the football club board being mostly made up by leagues club elected board members. Dodgy practices are not the exclusive domain of leagues clubs.

 

[Basil_Tiger]

Rest easy; while ever Balmain retains partial ownership we'll never be in a financial position to have to worry about a salary cap scandal.
I have no issue with the football club board being mostly made up by leagues club elected board members. Dodgy practices are not the exclusive domain of leagues clubs.

Yeah,anywhere there is money involved there is the temptation to steal,Charities & Clubs are often the target for thieves,there were rumours that there were governance issues at Balmain Leagues Club years before the Humphries fiasco.

 

[gallagher]

Since the parra scandal has now unfolded and we've got some pretty clear cases of incompetency and refusal to take blame, just wondering if anyone has changed their thought on the Wests Tigers ownership structure?

Is everyone still happy for us to be controlled by the leagues clubs again with no checks and balances ?

I don't see what your getting at? Only a leagues club structure would be able to cheat? Whats the connection your making?

Similar thread to before Gallagher. You get guys that aren't hired for their business acumen, but politics within a club structure.

But more pressing was the lack of governance. There are much less checks and balances in our new structure, we removing closer to the parra model again instead of further away.

Oh right. Yeah, you could be right.
I read the other day that the proposal from wests/balmain is in the NRLs hands now. Maybe they will have a few demands as far as governance goes before they give it the green light.

 

[Yossarian]

Rest easy; while ever Balmain retains partial ownership we'll never be in a financial position to have to worry about a salary cap scandal.
I have no issue with the football club board being mostly made up by leagues club elected board members. Dodgy practices are not the exclusive domain of leagues clubs.

Yeah,anywhere there is money involved there is the temptation to steal,Charities & Clubs are often the target for thieves,there were rumours that there were governance issues at Balmain Leagues Club years before the Humphreys fiasco.

Kevin Humphreys did the wrong thing, paid a massive price and made amends. I remember seeing him quite often at AGMs in the 90s and 2000s. I can't comment on what happened before the 80s but Keith Barnes and the people on the football club boards after then up to the JV formation were highly respected.

 

[1_4_chicken_chips]

Well maybe with Harry not officially on board some big 3 red party agreements will start happening

 

[1_4_chicken_chips]

Well maybe with Harry not officially on board some big 3rd party agreements will start happening

 

[Harvey]

Yes leagues club directors are all shady characters. We need independant, professional business people involved. I hear that Nathan Tinkler and Salim Mehajir have bit more free time available.

 

[diedpretty]

Since the parra scandal has now unfolded and we've got some pretty clear cases of incompetency and refusal to take blame, just wondering if anyone has changed their thought on the Wests Tigers ownership structure?

Is everyone still happy for us to be controlled by the leagues clubs again with no checks and balances ?

I don't see what your getting at? Only a leagues club structure would be able to cheat? Whats the connection your making?[/quote

I don't see what your getting at either. Melbourne weren't run by a leagues club and they were the biggest rorters ever.