Balmain Tigers face extinction

[LaT]

As a Wests man through and through I gotta say this gives me no pleasure what so ever.

Its strange any Wests Tigers fan would need to point this out…

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Snoddy followed the Magpies before the JV and the Magpies will always hold a special place in his heart and there's nothing wrong with that just as the Balmain Tigers do for me but that doesn't mean for one second that we haven't fully embraced Wests Tigers.

I tip my hat off to him for what he said and found it sincere and shows his integrity.

Makes no difference who he supporter prior to the JV. Its just strange to point something like that out, as if unless he made mention of it we would all assume he was happy it was happening?

 

[system]

You make a valid point, but if a half owner pf WT is dead and bankrupt, how is that a good thing for WT (short term and long term)??

See but this is the confusion, as has been rightly pointed out the Leagues Club are not a part owner of Wests Tigers, they never have been. It is a funding stream but with some manouvering new funding streams can be put in place.

As it stands the most valuable asset within the Balmain Leagues Club cannot be included in profit and loss statements and that is the licenses for the poker machines they have.

There are issue to be seen to and many acts to be played out. The public pleas are required for awareness on the issue of the Leagues club but the reality is this is a hiccup long term, even if the Leagues Club were to fold.

Igniting passion is good and required but it is a long road ahead

 

[wtfl1981]

So what would Balmain FC contribute to WT without a viable leagues club behind it??

My point is that some here on the forum just say 'move on, balmain is dead - support WT' does not really make the 'problem' go away (viable ownership and support of WT)

Think Tinkler going down the gurglar or Crowe pulling out of souths.. Uncertainty, liability etc
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[system]

A simple restructure before any creditors are called in would solve any issues.

It is not uncommon practice. The amount of times companies like Lend Lease have restructured to avoid tens of millions is debt is staggering whilst carrying on.

There are many other avenues the club could look at going down before this even becomes a serious problem for Wests Tigers.

The issues and possibilities are far too complex and involved to spell out in this forum but I am confident moving forward

 

[Snodgrass]

As a Wests man through and through I gotta say this gives me no pleasure what so ever.

Its strange any Wests Tigers fan would need to point this out…

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Snoddy followed the Magpies before the JV and the Magpies will always hold a special place in his heart and there's nothing wrong with that just as the Balmain Tigers do for me but that doesn't mean for one second that we haven't fully embraced Wests Tigers.

I tip my hat off to him for what he said and found it sincere and shows his integrity.

Makes no difference who he supporter prior to the JV. Its just strange to point something like that out, as if unless he made mention of it we would all assume he was happy it was happening?

LaT mate, I support the Joint Venture and I support the mighty Western Suburbs Magpies … I don't support Manly, St George, Canterbury, Easts, HullKR ... Etc etc ... and I've never supported Balmain.

Secondly, I realize this next point maybe a little disturbing, but up in them thar hills directly beyond the old Lidcombe high street butchers shop once owned by the mercurial Joe Cool ... live a gaggle of moonshine swilling, toothless magpie men who have for over a decade been yearning for the day when the Balmain side of the joint venture either racked off back to Darling Street or simply curled up and died.

Given that the latter of these two options is being muted in this thread ... my comment was simply aimed at distancing myself from the hardline views of these fearsome black n white face slappers ...

And as was pointed out on a separate thread fairly recently ...
"Snoddy, you're going soft."

 

[weststigers4life]

A simple restructure before any creditors are called in would solve any issues.

It is not uncommon practice. The amount of times companies like Lend Lease have restructured to avoid tens of millions is debt is staggering whilst carrying on.

There are many other avenues the club could look at going down before this even becomes a serious problem for Wests Tigers.

The issues and possibilities are far too complex and involved to spell out in this forum but I am confident moving forward

Smeg, would the club be liable for any damages from Leichhardt council? When the club was in talks with the council very early on about improving the chances of this development getting up with the council suggesting that the club purchase adjoining land, in which the club spent 8-10 million purchasing this only after this advice. Also was the club compensated after the metro decision was reversed? Such a messy and sad sight to see considering the club tried going through the proper pocedures and sought councils advice in getting this development up.

 

[FARANGALANG]

Elias long lost me as a fan, I love him as a player but don't respect him as a man. That was before this whole saga began too.

And its important to remember that no one man is greater than the club, nothing Benny does will devalue Balmain as I remember it.

Sadly I agree with you re Elias.I just couldnt see sironen doing what elias has done(personal cash to the detriment to anyone who has ever made him being Balmain and its players and fans)to me he has gone from no name to demi god to cockroach.

 

[sunshine_coast_tiger]

Gary,
I agree on the joint venture. Why does Balmain get so much kudos when it is Wests Magpies with all the cash? The Rozelle towers are inappropriate for the area and the football club members were conned by Benny Elias into signing a petition in support of them. The original proposal was for around 12 storeys then it was amended to 32 then it was 'downsized' to 25\. If 12 was too big to start with what will 25 do to the area?

I think the orginal propsal that was rejected was a 14 storey and 7 storey towers. I think a 12 storey tower would have been approved as it would have meet the rezoining guidelines for the site under the approved master plan (which Leichhardt Council are trying to reduce)

I have lived in Balmain/Rozelle/Leichhardt area for 30 of my 40 years on this earth. Balmain Leagues Club has been a great supporter of the local community my whole life. They have given a lot to many different local organisations that I know about (not just local rugby league). I played cricket, soccer and league as a junior in the area and all were supported by Balmain Leagues.

I think that Rozelle Towers is appropriate for the area. It is on a main road, will provide housing, much needed retail facilities, medical centre, vastly needed parking and best of all the return of Balmain Leagues to it's rightful home.

I have never written a letter to a government department supporting any development in the past but I am passionate about the return of Balmain Leagues to its home. I urge all supporters of the Tigers to do the same and support this project and let the majority be heard not just the volcal minority NIMBYs.

 

[system]

Smeg, would the club be liable for any damages from Leichhardt council? When the club was in talks with the council very early on about improving the chances of this development getting up with the council suggesting that the club purchase adjoining land, in which the club spent 8-10 million purchasing this only after this advice. Also was the club compensated after the metro decision was reversed? Such a messy and sad sight to see considering the club tried going through the proper pocedures and sought councils advice in getting this development up.

I wouldnt have the foggiest on that one. Compensation is a massive grey area

 

[weststigers4life]

Smeg, would the club be liable for any damages from Leichhardt council? When the club was in talks with the council very early on about improving the chances of this development getting up with the council suggesting that the club purchase adjoining land, in which the club spent 8-10 million purchasing this only after this advice. Also was the club compensated after the metro decision was reversed? Such a messy and sad sight to see considering the club tried going through the proper pocedures and sought councils advice in getting this development up.

I wouldnt have the foggiest on that one. Compensation is a massive grey area

No worries, thanks mate.
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[Newtown]

The comments posted in the Foxtel website which refers to the DT article indicates that many of the public are incorrectly intepreting it as the likely emise of the West Tigers not Balmain.

 

[sunshine_coast_tiger]

A simple restructure before any creditors are called in would solve any issues.

It is not uncommon practice. The amount of times companies like Lend Lease have restructured to avoid tens of millions is debt is staggering whilst carrying on.

There are many other avenues the club could look at going down before this even becomes a serious problem for Wests Tigers.

The issues and possibilities are far too complex and involved to spell out in this forum but I am confident moving forward

Smeg, would the club be liable for any damages from Leichhardt council? When the club was in talks with the council very early on about improving the chances of this development getting up with the council suggesting that the club purchase adjoining land, in which the club spent 8-10 million purchasing this only after this advice. Also was the club compensated after the metro decision was reversed? Such a messy and sad sight to see considering the club tried going through the proper pocedures and sought councils advice in getting this development up.

I think there will be a court case of Balmain Leagues club v Leichhardt Council if only to get back the $750,000 the Council owes the club. The club may also have grounds to take legal action against the council after acting in good faith and spending money on acquiring properties that council asked them to purchase to streamline the process. Paul Sironen said on 2SM talking sport that the amount of money they spent to acquire such properties was 8-10 million dollars plus holding costs.

Compenstation from the failed Metro project is very interesting. I have heard of some companies that was tendering to build it being componesated. Since Balmain Leagues closed its doors because the Metro project asked them to vacate at a certain time yow would think that Balmain Leagues Club would be entilted to a large amount of compensation from the NSW government. I have never heard of the club receiving any or any articles being written on this. Does any one know if the club is to receive compensation from the state government?

 

[Ed_Reschs]

The comments posted in the Foxtel website which refers to the DT article indicates that many of the public are incorrectly intepreting it as the likely emise of the West Tigers not Balmain.

Yes but if balmain cannot provide their cash then I'm sorry it's wests all the way. No one has given wests the time of day during this merger. I hope they push for an even spread. No more should they put up with orange jerseys, getting shafted by the coach on nsw cup nor should they accept this crap about LO. It's time we moved with the future which means 6 games at c'town and 6 games at lidcombe oval.
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[FARANGALANG]

A simple restructure before any creditors are called in would solve any issues.

It is not uncommon practice. The amount of times companies like Lend Lease have restructured to avoid tens of millions is debt is staggering whilst carrying on.

There are many other avenues the club could look at going down before this even becomes a serious problem for Wests Tigers.

The issues and possibilities are far too complex and involved to spell out in this forum but I am confident moving forward

Many other avenues hey smeg?could you name but one and why havent all the other clubs adopted just one of these many other avenues ?Not calling you stupid pal but Im a little skeptical of these many other avenues?No disrespect intended but Im just curious to all these many other avenues.

 

[Winnipeg]

The comments posted in the Foxtel website which refers to the DT article indicates that many of the public are incorrectly intepreting it as the likely emise of the West Tigers not Balmain.

Yes but if balmain cannot provide their cash then I'm sorry it's wests all the way. No one has given wests the time of day during this merger. I hope they push for an even spread. No more should they put up with orange jerseys, getting shafted by the coach on nsw cup nor should they accept this crap about LO. It's time we moved with the future which means 6 games at c'town and 6 games at lidcombe oval.
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are you for real?

what about Pratten Park?

 

[Guest]

The comments posted in the Foxtel website which refers to the DT article indicates that many of the public are incorrectly intepreting it as the likely emise of the West Tigers not Balmain.

Yes but if balmain cannot provide their cash then I'm sorry it's wests all the way. No one has given wests the time of day during this merger. I hope they push for an even spread. No more should they put up with orange jerseys, getting shafted by the coach on nsw cup nor should they accept this crap about LO. It's time we moved with the future which means 6 games at c'town and 6 games at lidcombe oval.
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Either you're doing a poor job of trolling or you need to have your head checked. Posts like these do nothing but start flame wars on here so grow up.

 

[wtfl1981]

The comments posted in the Foxtel website which refers to the DT article indicates that many of the public are incorrectly intepreting it as the likely emise of the West Tigers not Balmain.

Many non WT fans cannot or do not bother to distinguish the two tigers brands…
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[Gary_Bakerloo]

A simple restructure before any creditors are called in would solve any issues.

It is not uncommon practice. The amount of times companies like Lend Lease have restructured to avoid tens of millions is debt is staggering whilst carrying on.

There are many other avenues the club could look at going down before this even becomes a serious problem for Wests Tigers.

The issues and possibilities are far too complex and involved to spell out in this forum but I am confident moving forward

If it is so simple, why bother going through all this trauma? Cut the losses now, close down the Leagues club and restructure.

Not sure about the comparison to Lend Lease. Major difference is they have assets - hence they can restructure debt.

 

[barrytiger]

The comments posted in the Foxtel website which refers to the DT article indicates that many of the public are incorrectly intepreting it as the likely emise of the West Tigers not Balmain.

Yes but if balmain cannot provide their cash then I'm sorry it's wests all the way. No one has given wests the time of day during this merger. I hope they push for an even spread. No more should they put up with orange jerseys, getting shafted by the coach on nsw cup nor should they accept this crap about LO. It's time we moved with the future which means 6 games at c'town and 6 games at lidcombe oval.
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[tigermaniac]

I just want to say to all the people on this forum, when your side of the merger is hurting it doesn't help when the other side of the merger puts the boot in. If you have nothing good to say, stay out of it. That's why Balmain matters, that's why the Magpie matters.
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