Big name player in trouble

[Nelson]

Who is saying get the police involved? It has got nothing to do with the police.
It however has got a helluva lot to do with the NRL, its supposed tough stance on illicit drugs by current players under its' banner and the integrity and image of the league itself. So the NRL should be doing everything in its power to find out the truth behind the alledged use of illicit drugs by Pearce….just as it did when it came down hard upon and made an example of Field and McGuiness years ago.
Out of curiosity....does anybody remember how Field and McGuiness were originally caught for their indiscretion? Was it an NRL drug test that they failed? Wouldn't think they would come out and confess guilt unless they got caught out by the drug- testing procedure of the NRL.

ASDA drug tests
Buddha was for eccys, Field coke

Their suspensions would have been imposed by the NRL though wouldn't they? IIRC they both got slightly different length suspensions as well…not sure how the NRL calculated their suspensions.

Actually you're right according to the search I just did on it. It was the NRL who had their own anti-doping tribunal at the time. ASADA wasn't established until 2006\. They both got six month bans but McGuinness had his reduced by a few months for good behaviour and returned in round 23 of that season.

 

[Tiger_Watto]

The text message is a beat up… The NRL just need to deal with what really happened and issue Easts a $750k fine, the equivalent of Pearces Salary.

This will ensure Politis makes the correct choice!

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

Another big name player in trouble is Mario Fenech with dementia from 8 knock-outs a season, in today's SMH

 

[GNR4LIFE]

The txt msg could be written and sent by anyone. What's to stop me from txt'ing that to a mate then the mate sending that txt to the media? Technology makes this things pretty easy.

 

[2041]

FAde to Black, The NRL is not charge of border protection. I don't think they could have attempted to interfere in MP leaving the country without copping a lot of flak.

I never mentioned that the NRL should stop him from leaving the country but a thorough investigation into this whole drama needs to include a hair or blood test to verify his innocence or guilt re: the use of illegal substances.

Does the NRL have any right to demand a hair or blood sample, especially outside of the established performance enhancing drug testing regime? It's not a law-enforcement agency. It could ask for a sample, Pearce could say "no, that's a gross invasion of privacy" and carry on with his life.

Drug tests for recreational drugs are a part of the NRL anti-doping policy…

Yes I know - but do they do blood tests/hair samples and can they just demand one at any time they feel like it? I genuinely don't know, but I doubt the NRL can just demand any sample it wants whenever it wants it - there's normally a process agreed to by the players' union about exactly how invasive they are prepared to let their employer be "for the good of the game".

 

[supercoach]

All the drug stuff is now purely hypothetical, as Pearce was able to bolt before anything happened. This to me is where the main problem with this whole saga lays. The fact that he bolted so quickly the public now are thinking all sorts of conspiracy theories. You have to ask yourself who made the call for him to seek treatment OS, was it just a family thing,was it the club or are the NRL mixed up in it. As I said a few pages ago, why was he not tested or was he tested and it has been swept under the carpet.

This whole saga will now be on the nose for ever and Pearce should probably pack his bags and head over and join his mates in the ESL.

 

[happy_tiger]

Do we not have any decent rehab centres in Australia ??

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

Do we not have any decent rehab centres in Australia ??

Do we know what country Mitch jumped off at? Australia has limited rehabs and can be very expensive just as some in 3rd World can even be. That poor Fields guy eventually killed a guy sort of accidentally and now in prison - blame the grog culture as much as him. Would have been preferable for him to escape to O/S rehab than stay here and get into more trouble. But I guess their families backgrounds are entirely different.

 

[Fade_To_Black]

Do we not have any decent rehab centres in Australia ??

Its more Rooster-style to go Hollywood.
The whole concept of getting him out of Australia is to lessen the hype and exposure around him so that when he finally slinks his sorry arse back into the country the matter will have blown over and been forgotten about so he will get off scot-free. One wonders what the outcome and punishment would have been for some ordinary Joe Blow from another club who brought such shame on the NRL…..he would never ever be seen again in the NRL you can bet your house on it.

 

[Newtown]

Do we not have any decent rehab centres in Australia ??

Its more Rooster-style to go Hollywood.
The whole concept of getting him out of Australia is to lessen the hype and exposure around him so that when he finally slinks his sorry arse back into the country the matter will have blown over and been forgotten about so he will get off scot-free. One wonders what the outcome and punishment would have been for some ordinary Joe Blow from another club who brought such shame on the NRL…..he would never ever be seen again in the NRL you can bet your house on it.

Hence why Pearce will continue to be a repeat offender. He knows that he is something "special".

 

[stryker]

That poor Fields guy eventually killed a guy sort of accidentally and now in prison - blame the grog culture as much as him.

That poor Craig Field. He brokered a blue between his friend and a reluctant other then king hit the fella and killed him.
Let's all hold hands and pray for the very unfortunate Mr Field as he had no choice but to revert to a coward punch to appease the stranglehold Australian drinking culture inflicted upon him. Poor poor Craig Field…..

P.s.
Isn't there a save the whales demo you should be at?

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

"It wasn't me, it was the grog…"

Typical...

 

[Geo]

I never mentioned that the NRL should stop him from leaving the country but a thorough investigation into this whole drama needs to include a hair or blood test to verify his innocence or guilt re: the use of illegal substances.

Does the NRL have any right to demand a hair or blood sample, especially outside of the established performance enhancing drug testing regime? It's not a law-enforcement agency. It could ask for a sample, Pearce could say "no, that's a gross invasion of privacy" and carry on with his life.

Drug tests for recreational drugs are a part of the NRL anti-doping policy…

Yes I know - but do they do blood tests/hair samples and can they just demand one at any time they feel like it? I genuinely don't know, but I doubt the NRL can just demand any sample it wants whenever it wants it - there's normally a process agreed to by the players' union about exactly how invasive they are prepared to let their employer be "for the good of the game".

Testing for both performance enhancing and recreational drugs is random and players are not required to be informed when they will take place nor are they permitted to refuse a test when requested or they are in breach of the anti-doping policy,,,they include blood and hair samples if required,,,

I have known of players who were woken at 5am with a knock on the door from the lovely people from ASADA..to provide samples..Pearce could have been tested if they wanted to…he may well have been for all we know...

Clubs also routinely do in-house testing this generally is known about in advance...

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

That poor Fields guy eventually killed a guy sort of accidentally and now in prison - blame the grog culture as much as him.

That poor Craig Field. He brokered a blue between his friend and a reluctant other then king hit the fella and killed him.
Let's all hold hands and pray for the very unfortunate Mr Field as he had no choice but to revert to a coward punch to appease the stranglehold Australian drinking culture inflicted upon him. Poor poor Craig Field…..

P.s.
Isn't there a save the whales demo you should be at?

Police stats are that 70% of violent crime occurs under the influence of alcohol. Every generation will produce those whom cannot handle their grog and the grog will always be on hand as part of society, it is the social lubricant. Not all young and older people have the will power or insight to give up the grog if they cannot handle it so drunken violence is guaranteed. Society knows that this will occur yet still provides the grog to one and all. When they are drunk they are not fully responsible for their actions, when a drinker some times I could not remember a thing of a few hours of the night before. Could I 100% be held responsible for what I could not even remember?

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

40 years ago exactly I was involved at beginning of Save the Whale campaign. Would stryker be out trying to save the tiger if they were on last legs - or are the two-legged variety sufficient?

 

[stryker]

I choose people over animals mate and I have done my share as I said earlier.

 

[guyofthetiger]

The loss of privacy is a big concern.

But given those evenings events are public now, I'm more disgusted at how little has been said about the blatant racism among a group of young people on Australia Day.

If anything, the video suggests how far this country still has to go to mature as a nation.

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

I choose people over animals mate and I have done my share as I said earlier.

The horrors that man has committed against man are well matched by the horrors of man against nature, we are the biggest blight on the planet. So you should not be sarcastic when other people are still prepared to go the extra yard for the cause. At least not in a thread about football.

 

[Tiger_Watto]

I've always wondered what whale tastes like… It must be good if the Japanese are so obsessed with continuing to hunt them.

Anyone ever tried it?

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

The loss of privacy is a big concern.

But given those evenings events are public now, I'm more disgusted at how little has been said about the blatant racism among a group of young people on Australia Day.

If anything, the video suggests how far this country still has to go to mature as a nation.

Good point. And I think the country side is worse for it than the city. Whist the Daily Telegraph outsells the SMH about 50-1 in many areas that is a good indication of where we are socially.