Brooks is no good

[Pawsandclaws]

I don't think Brooks is as bad as what is stated. His try yesterday was great. His running game can be unreal. I honestly think his kicking game isn't that bad. I think his defence is actually pretty good for a half.

I think the issue is that he has a fair few mistakes in his game but so do a lot of halves but that we need someone to step up and win us games desperately.

I didn't think Nathan Cleary who I rate highly was much better than Brooks apart from his goal kicking.

Pretty fair comment Earl. We have wider issues with major deficiencies in our roster. Twal to me demonstrated what we have sadly been lacking, passion. Brooks' game can only improve with a 190cm Suli chasing high kicks rather than a 178cm Kev.

 

[Geo]

Brooks is waiting for matulino and packer to arrive so he can get his kicking game in order

This argument really doesn't cut it does it.

Brooks has had 3 NRL seasons to get his kicking game in order….do you really think Pacalino will improve it.??.doubt it..Brooks would be better off practicing his kicking game everyday until next season kick off,that may help,or he just doesn't cut it at NRL level...
Unfortunately the club backed overhyped potential rather than proven talent...and apparently it has failed so far... :unamused:

Yeah makes you question why Cleary didn't pull Brooks contract like he did for Moses rather than tabling a new one…Surely Cleary can see what a dud Brooks is...there are plenty of other options he could have gone with..

 

[supercoach]

Still think Brooks is being hampered by dicky Hamstrings. He just doesn't seem confident in stretching out or extending his leg when kicking. Could be 100% wrong, but just my impression. I remember in the u20s he kicked a bag of 40/20s, but they have been few and far between in the top grade, okay in the NRL the back three can defend the long kicking game way better than in the u20s, but he just doesn't seem to have the distance anymore

 

[TrueTiger]

I don't think Brooks is as bad as what is stated. His try yesterday was great. His running game can be unreal. I honestly think his kicking game isn't that bad. I think his defence is actually pretty good for a half.

I think the issue is that he has a fair few mistakes in his game but so do a lot of halves but that we need someone to step up and win us games desperately.

I didn't think Nathan Cleary who I rate highly was much better than Brooks apart from his goal kicking.

Pretty fair comment Earl. We have wider issues with major deficiencies in our roster. Twal to me demonstrated what we have sadly been lacking, passion. Brooks' game can only improve with a 190cm Suli chasing high kicks rather than a 178cm Kev.

That's the thing though PandC,Ivan even admitted in his presser yesterday that the kicking game isn't at the level it should be,it beggars the question why hasn't Brooks developed and worked on his kicking and fifth tackle options,he has had 3 full NRL seasons to make some sort of improvement,yet it is not what it should be…I really don't want to bag out Brooks,but he showed in NYC how potentially talented he was and the club stuck by him,however the step up to the big arena seems to be out of his league and is not taking hold of the games and steering the team around the park the way he should be..

If the arguement is that the rest of the team isn't good enough,then he should be a standout performer and giving it his all to show them how to play to the gameplan and structures..
After all he is the lead playmaker...if Killer is slow at giving dh service then Brooks should be yelling at him to pull his finger out,if the backline is flat and not positioning themselves properly in attack,then Brooks should be yelling at them to get set for the next move...these are the things a good halfback should be doing during the games,but he seems to shy and in his shell to take hold of the team and control the game..
Once again I could be completely wrong as the game has changed since I played,but it is still rugby league,a team game with a playmaker setting up the plays in attack and defence being a whole team effort...

 

[hobbo]

Brooks is waiting for matulino and packer to arrive so he can get his kicking game in order

This argument really doesn't cut it does it.

Brooks has had 3 NRL seasons to get his kicking game in order….do you really think Pacalino will improve it.??.doubt it..Brooks would be better off practicing his kicking game everyday until next season kick off,that may help,or he just doesn't cut it at NRL level...
Unfortunately the club backed overhyped potential rather than proven talent...and apparently it has failed so far... :unamused:

Yeah makes you question why Cleary didn't pull Brooks contract like he did for Moses rather than tabling a new one…Surely Cleary can see what a dud Brooks is...there are plenty of other options he could have gone with..

Looks like we could have another dud coach on our hands hey Geo !
Picks JLJ on the bench …plays zero minutes ...
Sheenius !

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

This argument really doesn't cut it does it.

Brooks has had 3 NRL seasons to get his kicking game in order….do you really think Pacalino will improve it.??.doubt it..Brooks would be better off practicing his kicking game everyday until next season kick off,that may help,or he just doesn't cut it at NRL level...
Unfortunately the club backed overhyped potential rather than proven talent...and apparently it has failed so far... :unamused:

Yeah makes you question why Cleary didn't pull Brooks contract like he did for Moses rather than tabling a new one…Surely Cleary can see what a dud Brooks is...there are plenty of other options he could have gone with..

Looks like we could have another dud coach on our hands hey Geo !
Picks JLJ on the bench …plays zero minutes ...
Sheenius !

Have you thought of a nickname for our new coach yet?

 

[hobbo]

Brooks has had 3 NRL seasons to get his kicking game in order….do you really think Pacalino will improve it.??.doubt it..Brooks would be better off practicing his kicking game everyday until next season kick off,that may help,or he just doesn't cut it at NRL level...
Unfortunately the club backed overhyped potential rather than proven talent...and apparently it has failed so far... :unamused:

Yeah makes you question why Cleary didn't pull Brooks contract like he did for Moses rather than tabling a new one…Surely Cleary can see what a dud Brooks is...there are plenty of other options he could have gone with..

Looks like we could have another dud coach on our hands hey Geo !
Picks JLJ on the bench …plays zero minutes ...
Sheenius !

Have you thought of a nickname for our new coach yet?

Nah not yet , but if he keeps on playing a 16 man squad each week I'll come up with something .

 

[The_Old_Fox]

Still think Brooks is being hampered by dicky Hamstrings. He just doesn't seem confident in stretching out or extending his leg when kicking. Could be 100% wrong, but just my impression. I remember in the u20s he kicked a bag of 40/20s, but they have been few and far between in the top grade, okay in the NRL the back three can defend the long kicking game way better than in the u20s, but he just doesn't seem to have the distance anymore

Might be a good call, I heard Ivan in the press conference acknowledge the problem with our kicking game calling it a work in progress..I think Brooks is feeling the responsibility and then over thinking it causing him to panic a little and perhaps the hammy is not helping?.. I'm confident Ivan will sort this problem out with Brooks, especially when Renyolds plays the stage and liddle comes back as a third option, he almost pulled of a 40/20 in his last game the boy has talent and capable of steering the kicks.

 

[earl]

Brooks is waiting for matulino and packer to arrive so he can get his kicking game in order

This argument really doesn't cut it does it.

Brooks has had 3 NRL seasons to get his kicking game in order….do you really think Pacalino will improve it.??.doubt it..Brooks would be better off practicing his kicking game everyday until next season kick off,that may help,or he just doesn't cut it at NRL level...
Unfortunately the club backed overhyped potential rather than proven talent...and apparently it has failed so far... :unamused:

Yeah makes you question why Cleary didn't pull Brooks contract like he did for Moses rather than tabling a new one…Surely Cleary can see what a dud Brooks is...there are plenty of other options he could have gone with..

This is a compliment but this is one of the all time troll posts I've ever read on the Internet.

 

[earl]

Brooks is waiting for matulino and packer to arrive so he can get his kicking game in order

This argument really doesn't cut it does it.

I think it's sarcasm Earl.

I did pick that up the first time round.

 

[Tigerles]

not that my opinion really matters, but I'm going to offer it anyway.
yes Brooks needs to improve his leadership of the team as well as his 5th tackle options. there's no argument. As it is now he is basically the only real kicking option the team has on the field (Lolohea's kicking game at present is not a threat and I can't say I've seen either hooker kick at all- maybe Liddle once, and yes Teddy occasionally kicks, but generally only for himself) this enables the opposition to pressure Brooks without worrying about other kicking options. On top of this most last tackle options he is already under pressure from the forwards not having the defensive side on the back foot, thus it always seems like he has to rush his kicks or other plays. Yesterday most of his attacking kicking was done from outside the 30-40mtr make, how's he meant to grubber into the in goal from there, and for those that can't have been watching not all of his bombs/kicks went straight to the fullback/winger. Until the forwards start getting on top and we get another decent kicker to allow different options, which will put the opp defensive line in two minds, Brooks will always be under more pressure.
Add to this the coaching over the last two and bit years, did JT do anything to improve his game, I'd say no.
Will Luke turn his career round and show the promise he did as a junior, i hope so. Lets give a decent coach a chance to work with him (during the off season), a coach that we know can teach a halfback how to play, add to that an improved forward pack, a halves partner that can take some pressure off him and we'll see what happens. I can already see that his defence has improved along with his running game.
In regards to all the negative comments about him, why is it always the same posters? unhappy life?

 

[Harvey]

I think that he has had some of the football coached out of him, and been forced into a set of structures. It seems people have forgotten Taylorball. As I said previously I will evaluate at the end of next year when the team has some bigger and better outside backs, some forwards with a bit of mongrel and the offseason has seen their attacking and defensive structures re-jigged.
In saying that, if the upcoming fire sale does see a half (particularly one that can play 6 or 7) or fullback available, I would like to see the club take advantage to provide options for form or injuries in the spine.

 

[tigerfanatic]

This argument really doesn't cut it does it.

Brooks has had 3 NRL seasons to get his kicking game in order….do you really think Pacalino will improve it.??.doubt it..Brooks would be better off practicing his kicking game everyday until next season kick off,that may help,or he just doesn't cut it at NRL level...
Unfortunately the club backed overhyped potential rather than proven talent...and apparently it has failed so far... :unamused:

Yeah makes you question why Cleary didn't pull Brooks contract like he did for Moses rather than tabling a new one…Surely Cleary can see what a dud Brooks is...there are plenty of other options he could have gone with..

This is a compliment but this is one of the all time troll posts I've ever read on the Internet.

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[Cultured_Bogan]

Yeah makes you question why Cleary didn't pull Brooks contract like he did for Moses rather than tabling a new one…Surely Cleary can see what a dud Brooks is...there are plenty of other options he could have gone with..

Looks like we could have another dud coach on our hands hey Geo !
Picks JLJ on the bench …plays zero minutes ...
Sheenius !

Have you thought of a nickname for our new coach yet?

Nah not yet , but if he keeps on playing a 16 man squad each week I'll come up with something .

Yeah I'll wait until he's using his own cattle. Granted I can't understand why JLJ is on the bench and seeing no time but since the season was gone a long while ago I am not too fussed.

 

[hobbo]

Looks like we could have another dud coach on our hands hey Geo !
Picks JLJ on the bench …plays zero minutes ...
Sheenius !

Have you thought of a nickname for our new coach yet?

Nah not yet , but if he keeps on playing a 16 man squad each week I'll come up with something .

Yeah I'll wait until he's using his own cattle. Granted I can't understand why JLJ is on the bench and seeing no time but since the season was gone a long while ago I am not too fussed.

I was at the game yesterday , that game was there to be won , Penrith were bog ordinary .
Cleary later comes out and states that …" The turn around is well under way at Wests Tigers "
Ok we haven't been flogged of late but jeez 61 missed tackles ...,that's laughable !
If we're not 4 or 5 wins from 10 rounds next year Cleary will have a beauty of a nickname :laughing:

But nothing will top the "Pasty Faced Scarecrow "
That even made the Herald :mrgreen:

 

[maxxy86]

As far as Brooks goes, i thought he had turned the corner a bit, but there are still red lights there. Particularly when we had a full set on the Panthers line and Brooks only touched it on the last to give to Teddy to kick. Just not acceptable for a first grade half back. If he takes the bull by the horns and stuffs it, i can live with that, but please, have a go Luke, good players want the ball in their hands.

I think this describes Luke to a tea….it's like he doesn't want to in fear that he will lose the game or something. Yeah I would really like him to have a good crack!!! Or see ya later

 

[BalmainBoy]

Very average 1st half, all the usual stuff, poor 5th tackle options, some shocking passes, than I thought he had a strong second half. Very hard to shine as no7 when every set your 90m from the try line. Badger was poor as always and certainly gifted the Pennys plenty of yards and possession

What a load of garbage. Badger was pro Tigers today. Our shocking hands and poor defence, as always, lost that game.

Agree about the mistakes… but I thought the goaline defence in particular was pretty good.. There was a bad a call by Badger on the brooks Knock-on at 16-14 and Tigers defended that set well.. I think the Tigers have been much better defensively since Cleary came on.. still some lapses but do appear to be more committed and stronger mentally. Agree also, good teams don't worry about the ref.. you defend bad decisions and calls.. thats why Storm are number 1

 

[earl]

Brooks has had 3 NRL seasons to get his kicking game in order….do you really think Pacalino will improve it.??.doubt it..Brooks would be better off practicing his kicking game everyday until next season kick off,that may help,or he just doesn't cut it at NRL level...
Unfortunately the club backed overhyped potential rather than proven talent...and apparently it has failed so far... :unamused:

Yeah makes you question why Cleary didn't pull Brooks contract like he did for Moses rather than tabling a new one…Surely Cleary can see what a dud Brooks is...there are plenty of other options he could have gone with..

This is a compliment but this is one of the all time troll posts I've ever read on the Internet.

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Geo is on fire at the moment. Great stuff.

 

[Geo]

Yeah makes you question why Cleary didn't pull Brooks contract like he did for Moses rather than tabling a new one…Surely Cleary can see what a dud Brooks is...there are plenty of other options he could have gone with..

This is a compliment but this is one of the all time troll posts I've ever read on the Internet.

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Geo is on fire at the moment. Great stuff.

Wait till he re-signs Elijah the dud for 3 more years this week Earl..

 

[innsaneink]

I dunno I think there is a quality half in him somewhere… It's just frustrating waiting for him to find it.
We've all seen brief glimpses from him of the whole bag of tricks a good half needs, consistency has been his problem... I see a lack of confidence an issue with him too... Saw it yesterday with him passing off to Lolohea on the 5th to kick after his first few were average