Brooks.... what is he good for??

[pawsandclaws1]

I think there should be a fullback coach a winger coach a centre coach, halves coach, lock coach backrow coach hooker coach bench coach outside the 17 coach all except Props..they don't need a coach..just bash it up an bash the opposition down..

I don't believe anyone could argue Johns and Barrett have not improved Moses and Cleary.

 

[TheDaBoss]

I think there should be a fullback coach a winger coach a centre coach, halves coach, lock coach backrow coach hooker coach bench coach outside the 17 coach all except Props..they don't need a coach..just bash it up an bash the opposition down..

perfect, then if there is a injury the coaches replace the players they are coaching

 

[Needaname]

I think there should be a fullback coach a winger coach a centre coach, halves coach, lock coach backrow coach hooker coach bench coach outside the 17 coach all except Props..they don't need a coach..just bash it up an bash the opposition down..

I don't believe anyone could argue Johns and Barrett have not improved Moses and Cleary.

What could be argued is, why you feel Brooks needs a specialist coach to help him learn the game better.
What happened to just doing it yourself.
No coach needed to tell Nathan that if you dig your way into the line a half pace a see a defender a little slow to cover the gap, put your foot down.
Just like Brooks doesn’t need a coach to tell him to get involved in the game and start dictating the set.

 

[Geo]

I think there should be a fullback coach a winger coach a centre coach, halves coach, lock coach backrow coach hooker coach bench coach outside the 17 coach all except Props..they don't need a coach..just bash it up an bash the opposition down..

I don't believe anyone could argue Johns and Barrett have not improved Moses and Cleary.

Well Johns hasn't been involved since covid with Slimey..

Also both those team have had a consistent platform week in week out for them to work off..except Parra last week and they lost..

The Penrith game also yesterday for the 1st 60-65 minutes they struggled against an ave Cows side to score points ..in the end the Cows fell apart...

None of that has anything to do with Coaching

Wests Tigers are getting there with consistency provide a platform over the past month..

 

[pawsandclaws1]

I think there should be a fullback coach a winger coach a centre coach, halves coach, lock coach backrow coach hooker coach bench coach outside the 17 coach all except Props..they don't need a coach..just bash it up an bash the opposition down..

I don't believe anyone could argue Johns and Barrett have not improved Moses and Cleary.

Well Johns hasn't been involved since covid with Slimey..

Also both those team have had a consistent platform week in week out for them to work off..except Parra last week and they lost..

The Penrith game also yesterday for the 1st 60-65 minutes they struggled against an ave Cows side to score points ..in the end the Cows fell apart...

None of that has anything to do with Coaching

Wests Tigers are getting there with consistency provide a platform over the past month..

So you are arguing Cleary and Moses have not improved their play due to individual coaching from Barrett and Johns?

 

[Geo]

I think there should be a fullback coach a winger coach a centre coach, halves coach, lock coach backrow coach hooker coach bench coach outside the 17 coach all except Props..they don't need a coach..just bash it up an bash the opposition down..

I don't believe anyone could argue Johns and Barrett have not improved Moses and Cleary.

Well Johns hasn't been involved since covid with Slimey..

Also both those team have had a consistent platform week in week out for them to work off..except Parra last week and they lost..

The Penrith game also yesterday for the 1st 60-65 minutes they struggled against an ave Cows side to score points ..in the end the Cows fell apart...

None of that has anything to do with Coaching

Wests Tigers are getting there with consistency provide a platform over the past month..

So you are arguing Cleary and Moses have not improved their play due to individual coaching from Barrett and Johns?

Not at all...I'm arguing all the coaching in the World won't make much difference unless the other 15 players don't provide a platform for any half to work off..

 

[Strider]

Moses is one of the best halves in the comp now. When he was at Tigers I thought him and Brooks were about equal. So what happened? Did he just happen to improve and Brooks didn't, or did the club help him?

 

[Needaname]

Moses is one of the best halves in the comp now. When he was at Tigers I thought him and Brooks were about equal. So what happened? Did he just happen to improve and Brooks didn't, or did the club help him?

If you watched Moses from a kid you could see the only negative attribute was his frame.
You can see how competitive he was even in the twenties.
His a half but he spent half of the twenties season at fullback. It shows his flexible and has a will to improve in any role.
Brooks played 20mins of Hooker for JT one game and complained about it.
When both Farah and Liddle and Mbye was injured. Brooks once again complained about the idea of playing hooker so much so our 35 y old vet took the decision off his hands.
I don’t see the attitude that Moses posses in Brooks.
His too comfortable.

 

[JC99]

I think there should be a fullback coach a winger coach a centre coach, halves coach, lock coach backrow coach hooker coach bench coach outside the 17 coach all except Props..they don't need a coach..just bash it up an bash the opposition down..

I don't believe anyone could argue Johns and Barrett have not improved Moses and Cleary.

Well Johns hasn't been involved since covid with Slimey..

Also both those team have had a consistent platform week in week out for them to work off..except Parra last week and they lost..

The Penrith game also yesterday for the 1st 60-65 minutes they struggled against an ave Cows side to score points ..in the end the Cows fell apart...

None of that has anything to do with Coaching

Wests Tigers are getting there with consistency provide a platform over the past month..

So you are arguing Cleary and Moses have not improved their play due to individual coaching from Barrett and Johns?

Not at all...I'm arguing all the coaching in the World won't make much difference unless the other 15 players don't provide a platform for any half to work off..

There’s no harm in bringing in a quality halves coach then is there. Can only be a positive thing to have our boys learning off the greats

 

[hobbo1]

I think there should be a fullback coach a winger coach a centre coach, halves coach, lock coach backrow coach hooker coach bench coach outside the 17 coach all except Props..they don't need a coach..just bash it up an bash the opposition down..

I don't believe anyone could argue Johns and Barrett have not improved Moses and Cleary.

Well Johns hasn't been involved since covid with Slimey..

Also both those team have had a consistent platform week in week out for them to work off..except Parra last week and they lost..

The Penrith game also yesterday for the 1st 60-65 minutes they struggled against an ave Cows side to score points ..in the end the Cows fell apart...

None of that has anything to do with Coaching

Wests Tigers are getting there with consistency provide a platform over the past month..

So you are arguing Cleary and Moses have not improved their play due to individual coaching from Barrett and Johns?

Not at all...I'm arguing all the coaching in the World won't make much difference unless the other 15 players don't provide a platform for any half to work off..

There’s no harm in bringing in a quality halves coach then is there. Can only be a positive thing to have our boys learning off the greats

Brooks don’t need a halves coach , he needs a new occupation..

 

[pawsandclaws1]

I think there should be a fullback coach a winger coach a centre coach, halves coach, lock coach backrow coach hooker coach bench coach outside the 17 coach all except Props..they don't need a coach..just bash it up an bash the opposition down..

I don't believe anyone could argue Johns and Barrett have not improved Moses and Cleary.

Well Johns hasn't been involved since covid with Slimey..

Also both those team have had a consistent platform week in week out for them to work off..except Parra last week and they lost..

The Penrith game also yesterday for the 1st 60-65 minutes they struggled against an ave Cows side to score points ..in the end the Cows fell apart...

None of that has anything to do with Coaching

Wests Tigers are getting there with consistency provide a platform over the past month..

So you are arguing Cleary and Moses have not improved their play due to individual coaching from Barrett and Johns?

Not at all...I'm arguing all the coaching in the World won't make much difference unless the other 15 players don't provide a platform for any half to work off..

There’s no harm in bringing in a quality halves coach then is there. Can only be a positive thing to have our boys learning off the greats

Brooks don’t need a halves coach , he needs a new occupation..

That is why the bigger clubs were chasing him. We need to look at our system and bringing in specialist halves coaching not only for Brooks but Madden and Camroux.

 

[JC99]

I think there should be a fullback coach a winger coach a centre coach, halves coach, lock coach backrow coach hooker coach bench coach outside the 17 coach all except Props..they don't need a coach..just bash it up an bash the opposition down..

I don't believe anyone could argue Johns and Barrett have not improved Moses and Cleary.

Well Johns hasn't been involved since covid with Slimey..

Also both those team have had a consistent platform week in week out for them to work off..except Parra last week and they lost..

The Penrith game also yesterday for the 1st 60-65 minutes they struggled against an ave Cows side to score points ..in the end the Cows fell apart...

None of that has anything to do with Coaching

Wests Tigers are getting there with consistency provide a platform over the past month..

So you are arguing Cleary and Moses have not improved their play due to individual coaching from Barrett and Johns?

Not at all...I'm arguing all the coaching in the World won't make much difference unless the other 15 players don't provide a platform for any half to work off..

There’s no harm in bringing in a quality halves coach then is there. Can only be a positive thing to have our boys learning off the greats

Brooks don’t need a halves coach , he needs a new occupation..

That is why the bigger clubs were chasing him. We need to look at our system and bringing in specialist halves coaching not only for Brooks but Madden and Camroux.

We have Benji. Why can’t he be our halves coach next year? They constantly talk about how much work he does helping the young guys, one of the boys even said he’s like having another coach. He’d be my first choice for the role

 

[hobbo1]

I think there should be a fullback coach a winger coach a centre coach, halves coach, lock coach backrow coach hooker coach bench coach outside the 17 coach all except Props..they don't need a coach..just bash it up an bash the opposition down..

I don't believe anyone could argue Johns and Barrett have not improved Moses and Cleary.

Well Johns hasn't been involved since covid with Slimey..

Also both those team have had a consistent platform week in week out for them to work off..except Parra last week and they lost..

The Penrith game also yesterday for the 1st 60-65 minutes they struggled against an ave Cows side to score points ..in the end the Cows fell apart...

None of that has anything to do with Coaching

Wests Tigers are getting there with consistency provide a platform over the past month..

So you are arguing Cleary and Moses have not improved their play due to individual coaching from Barrett and Johns?

Not at all...I'm arguing all the coaching in the World won't make much difference unless the other 15 players don't provide a platform for any half to work off..

There’s no harm in bringing in a quality halves coach then is there. Can only be a positive thing to have our boys learning off the greats

Brooks don’t need a halves coach , he needs a new occupation..

That is why the bigger clubs were chasing him. We need to look at our system and bringing in specialist halves coaching not only for Brooks but Madden and Camroux.

I doesn’t matter which clubs were chasing him ( if true)
He’s with us and unfortunately the kid doesn’t have what it takes ..
He’s had 7 years...
How much longer does he need ?

 

[pawsandclaws1]

I think there should be a fullback coach a winger coach a centre coach, halves coach, lock coach backrow coach hooker coach bench coach outside the 17 coach all except Props..they don't need a coach..just bash it up an bash the opposition down..

I don't believe anyone could argue Johns and Barrett have not improved Moses and Cleary.

Well Johns hasn't been involved since covid with Slimey..

Also both those team have had a consistent platform week in week out for them to work off..except Parra last week and they lost..

The Penrith game also yesterday for the 1st 60-65 minutes they struggled against an ave Cows side to score points ..in the end the Cows fell apart...

None of that has anything to do with Coaching

Wests Tigers are getting there with consistency provide a platform over the past month..

So you are arguing Cleary and Moses have not improved their play due to individual coaching from Barrett and Johns?

Not at all...I'm arguing all the coaching in the World won't make much difference unless the other 15 players don't provide a platform for any half to work off..

There’s no harm in bringing in a quality halves coach then is there. Can only be a positive thing to have our boys learning off the greats

Brooks don’t need a halves coach , he needs a new occupation..

That is why the bigger clubs were chasing him. We need to look at our system and bringing in specialist halves coaching not only for Brooks but Madden and Camroux.

I doesn’t matter which clubs were chasing him ( if true)
He’s with us and unfortunately the kid doesn’t have what it takes ..
He’s had 7 years...
How much longer does he need ?

We each have our own opinions on players. I believe he will respond positively to Maguie's action.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

I think there should be a fullback coach a winger coach a centre coach, halves coach, lock coach backrow coach hooker coach bench coach outside the 17 coach all except Props..they don't need a coach..just bash it up an bash the opposition down..

I don't believe anyone could argue Johns and Barrett have not improved Moses and Cleary.

Well Johns hasn't been involved since covid with Slimey..

Also both those team have had a consistent platform week in week out for them to work off..except Parra last week and they lost..

The Penrith game also yesterday for the 1st 60-65 minutes they struggled against an ave Cows side to score points ..in the end the Cows fell apart...

None of that has anything to do with Coaching

Wests Tigers are getting there with consistency provide a platform over the past month..

So you are arguing Cleary and Moses have not improved their play due to individual coaching from Barrett and Johns?

Not at all...I'm arguing all the coaching in the World won't make much difference unless the other 15 players don't provide a platform for any half to work off..

There’s no harm in bringing in a quality halves coach then is there. Can only be a positive thing to have our boys learning off the greats

Brooks don’t need a halves coach , he needs a new occupation..

That is why the bigger clubs were chasing him. We need to look at our system and bringing in specialist halves coaching not only for Brooks but Madden and Camroux.

We have Benji. Why can’t he be our halves coach next year? They constantly talk about how much work he does helping the young guys, one of the boys even said he’s like having another coach. He’d be my first choice for the role

Absolutely but he may want to play on. No doubt Benji can bring his magic to coaching the young halves.

 

[jirskyr]

If you watched Moses from a kid you could see the only negative attribute was his frame.

And his extremely punchable face. I thought this even when he played for Tigers.

 

[TrueTiger]

I think there should be a fullback coach a winger coach a centre coach, halves coach, lock coach backrow coach hooker coach bench coach outside the 17 coach all except Props..they don't need a coach..just bash it up an bash the opposition down..

I don't believe anyone could argue Johns and Barrett have not improved Moses and Cleary.

Well Johns hasn't been involved since covid with Slimey..

Also both those team have had a consistent platform week in week out for them to work off..except Parra last week and they lost..

The Penrith game also yesterday for the 1st 60-65 minutes they struggled against an ave Cows side to score points ..in the end the Cows fell apart...

None of that has anything to do with Coaching

Wests Tigers are getting there with consistency provide a platform over the past month..

So you are arguing Cleary and Moses have not improved their play due to individual coaching from Barrett and Johns?

Not at all...I'm arguing all the coaching in the World won't make much difference unless the other 15 players don't provide a platform for any half to work off..

There’s no harm in bringing in a quality halves coach then is there. Can only be a positive thing to have our boys learning off the greats

Brooks don’t need a halves coach , he needs a new occupation..

That is why the bigger clubs were chasing him. We need to look at our system and bringing in specialist halves coaching not only for Brooks but Madden and Camroux.

I doesn’t matter which clubs were chasing him ( if true)
He’s with us and unfortunately the kid doesn’t have what it takes ..
He’s had 7 years...
How much longer does he need ?

Brooks has copped plenty from me over the years,in having said that,he has had Potter,JT,Cleary as coaches all of them were surrounded by instability and inhouse fighting...Maybe coach Maguire maybe able to get the best out of Brooks and putting him on the pine could be a blessing in disguise for Luke...I will give him the benefit of having a great coach help put him on the right track...

 

[Needaname]

I think there should be a fullback coach a winger coach a centre coach, halves coach, lock coach backrow coach hooker coach bench coach outside the 17 coach all except Props..they don't need a coach..just bash it up an bash the opposition down..

I don't believe anyone could argue Johns and Barrett have not improved Moses and Cleary.

Well Johns hasn't been involved since covid with Slimey..

Also both those team have had a consistent platform week in week out for them to work off..except Parra last week and they lost..

The Penrith game also yesterday for the 1st 60-65 minutes they struggled against an ave Cows side to score points ..in the end the Cows fell apart...

None of that has anything to do with Coaching

Wests Tigers are getting there with consistency provide a platform over the past month..

So you are arguing Cleary and Moses have not improved their play due to individual coaching from Barrett and Johns?

Not at all...I'm arguing all the coaching in the World won't make much difference unless the other 15 players don't provide a platform for any half to work off..

There’s no harm in bringing in a quality halves coach then is there. Can only be a positive thing to have our boys learning off the greats

Brooks don’t need a halves coach , he needs a new occupation..

That is why the bigger clubs were chasing him. We need to look at our system and bringing in specialist halves coaching not only for Brooks but Madden and Camroux.

I doesn’t matter which clubs were chasing him ( if true)
He’s with us and unfortunately the kid doesn’t have what it takes ..
He’s had 7 years...
How much longer does he need ?

We each have our own opinions on players. I believe he will respond positively to Maguie's action.

I struggle to see how Madge gives him the game time to be honest. Marshall is a better organiser at the moment and Walters is a good foil.
I was hoping to see Walters play as the game manager and Marshall play as the foil or at least have Walters play on the right but Madge stuck with Marshall as his key player. With that I feel Madge has moved on from the idea that Brooks will be his key half and that Marshall will be in the team until was sign a steady halfback or Madden is ready.
Brooks may be back, but he won’t be told he ‘owns’ the team again.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

I think there should be a fullback coach a winger coach a centre coach, halves coach, lock coach backrow coach hooker coach bench coach outside the 17 coach all except Props..they don't need a coach..just bash it up an bash the opposition down..

I don't believe anyone could argue Johns and Barrett have not improved Moses and Cleary.

Well Johns hasn't been involved since covid with Slimey..

Also both those team have had a consistent platform week in week out for them to work off..except Parra last week and they lost..

The Penrith game also yesterday for the 1st 60-65 minutes they struggled against an ave Cows side to score points ..in the end the Cows fell apart...

None of that has anything to do with Coaching

Wests Tigers are getting there with consistency provide a platform over the past month..

So you are arguing Cleary and Moses have not improved their play due to individual coaching from Barrett and Johns?

Not at all...I'm arguing all the coaching in the World won't make much difference unless the other 15 players don't provide a platform for any half to work off..

There’s no harm in bringing in a quality halves coach then is there. Can only be a positive thing to have our boys learning off the greats

Brooks don’t need a halves coach , he needs a new occupation..

That is why the bigger clubs were chasing him. We need to look at our system and bringing in specialist halves coaching not only for Brooks but Madden and Camroux.

I doesn’t matter which clubs were chasing him ( if true)
He’s with us and unfortunately the kid doesn’t have what it takes ..
He’s had 7 years...
How much longer does he need ?

We each have our own opinions on players. I believe he will respond positively to Maguie's action.

I struggle to see how Madge gives him the game time to be honest. Marshall is a better organiser at the moment and Walters is a good foil.
I was hoping to see Walters play as the game manager and Marshall play as the foil or at least have Walters play on the right but Madge stuck with Marshall as his key player. With that I feel Madge has moved on from the idea that Brooks will be his key half and that Marshall will be in the team until was sign a steady halfback or Madden is ready.
Brooks may be back, but he won’t be told he ‘owns’ the team again.

It is a squad, a long season and not everyone will fire throughout the season. I have no doubt he will be back.

 

[cktiger]

I think there should be a fullback coach a winger coach a centre coach, halves coach, lock coach backrow coach hooker coach bench coach outside the 17 coach all except Props..they don't need a coach..just bash it up an bash the opposition down..

I don't believe anyone could argue Johns and Barrett have not improved Moses and Cleary.

Well Johns hasn't been involved since covid with Slimey..

Also both those team have had a consistent platform week in week out for them to work off..except Parra last week and they lost..

The Penrith game also yesterday for the 1st 60-65 minutes they struggled against an ave Cows side to score points ..in the end the Cows fell apart...

None of that has anything to do with Coaching

Wests Tigers are getting there with consistency provide a platform over the past month..

So you are arguing Cleary and Moses have not improved their play due to individual coaching from Barrett and Johns?

Not at all...I'm arguing all the coaching in the World won't make much difference unless the other 15 players don't provide a platform for any half to work off..

There’s no harm in bringing in a quality halves coach then is there. Can only be a positive thing to have our boys learning off the greats

Brooks don’t need a halves coach , he needs a new occupation..

That is why the bigger clubs were chasing him. We need to look at our system and bringing in specialist halves coaching not only for Brooks but Madden and Camroux.

We have Benji. Why can’t he be our halves coach next year? They constantly talk about how much work he does helping the young guys, one of the boys even said he’s like having another coach. He’d be my first choice for the role

Absolutely but he may want to play on. No doubt Benji can bring his magic to coaching the young halves.

Ever thought that Brooks can't be coached to be any better?