Brooks

[Nucky_Thompson]

As I said earlier in the season the only halfback we had at the club is now playing in England. But on a positive note we have first dibs on him to come back to the club. Good enough goal kicker aswell.

Starting to agree with you has to be better than brooks his brother goes good too

 

[yeti]

That half back though has shown he's not quite up to NRL level week in week out. Caught between ISP and NRL standard, me thinks.

 

[Spartan117]

Dammit why isn't a 23 year-old footballer a proven leader of men? Should have already happened by now.

Honestly all this talk about Brooks being the leader, calling the shots etc. That's what I'd expect of blokes like Packer, Farah, Marshall, not a kid. Sure Brooks has been around a while but he's still a kid and being the halfback has all the pressure.

Nate Cleary certainly doesn't call all the shots when the game is on the line - he's able to rely on Maloney for that. And at club level, that partnership is breaking down recently, a couple of really ordinary losses for what was a table-topping side. Cleary is still also a kid.

**<big>We didn't lack for scoring opportunities on Sunday, we lacked for clinical finishing. It occurred across the park - Naiqama, Reynolds, Mbye, Farah, Brooks, Masters all making poor choices or fumbling with the try-line begging.</big>**

Brooks not cleared of criticism by any means, but I just don't support these threads where Brooks is having a pretty good season all over, but because the team has fallen down, it must be specifically someone's fault and here is the thread where we've identified an easy target.

Post of the month

 

[jirskyr]

Dammit why isn't a 23 year-old footballer a proven leader of men? Should have already happened by now.

Honestly all this talk about Brooks being the leader, calling the shots etc. That's what I'd expect of blokes like Packer, Farah, Marshall, not a kid. Sure Brooks has been around a while but he's still a kid and being the halfback has all the pressure.

Nate Cleary certainly doesn't call all the shots when the game is on the line - he's able to rely on Maloney for that. And at club level, that partnership is breaking down recently, a couple of really ordinary losses for what was a table-topping side. Cleary is still also a kid.

We didn't lack for scoring opportunities on Sunday, we lacked for clinical finishing. It occurred across the park - Naiqama, Reynolds, Mbye, Farah, Brooks, Masters all making poor choices or fumbling with the try-line begging.

Brooks not cleared of criticism by any means, but I just don't support these threads where Brooks is having a pretty good season all over, but because the team has fallen down, it must be specifically someone's fault and here is the thread where we've identified an easy target.

More excuses

How constructive. Anyway not excuses, that's actually what I observed to happen - plenty of try-scoring possibilities, lack of actually scoring tries. Brooks is not absolved of criticism, but he is no more or less to blame from this specific match than anyone else in the team.

Sack Brooks, sure, most consistent half we've had this year. Play whom? Gamble? Benji and Reynolds? Godinet?

The reason fans aren't coaches is because some fans think they can just wipe a team - sack this bloke, sack that bloke, get a replacement. No constructive observations, no consideration of the reality of contracts, player market, available players.

 

[Nucky_Thompson]

Dammit why isn't a 23 year-old footballer a proven leader of men? Should have already happened by now.

Honestly all this talk about Brooks being the leader, calling the shots etc. That's what I'd expect of blokes like Packer, Farah, Marshall, not a kid. Sure Brooks has been around a while but he's still a kid and being the halfback has all the pressure.

Nate Cleary certainly doesn't call all the shots when the game is on the line - he's able to rely on Maloney for that. And at club level, that partnership is breaking down recently, a couple of really ordinary losses for what was a table-topping side. Cleary is still also a kid.

We didn't lack for scoring opportunities on Sunday, we lacked for clinical finishing. It occurred across the park - Naiqama, Reynolds, Mbye, Farah, Brooks, Masters all making poor choices or fumbling with the try-line begging.

Brooks not cleared of criticism by any means, but I just don't support these threads where Brooks is having a pretty good season all over, but because the team has fallen down, it must be specifically someone's fault and here is the thread where we've identified an easy target.

More excuses

How constructive. Anyway not excuses, that's actually what I observed to happen - plenty of try-scoring possibilities, lack of actually scoring tries. Brooks is not absolved of criticism, but he is no more or less to blame from this specific match than anyone else in the team.

Sack Brooks, sure, most consistent half we've had this year. Play whom? Gamble? Benji and Reynolds? Godinet?

The reason fans aren't coaches is because some fans think they can just wipe a team - sack this bloke, sack that bloke, get a replacement. No constructive observations, no consideration of the reality of contracts, player market, available players.

Benji/Reynolds if benj body up to it.

Brooks is not an isolated season. me and other fans have had enough and cannot stomach more excuses.

How long do you stick with him until you make the tough call to get rid of him.

 

[Geo]

Ivan sees different

 

[TrueTiger]

That half back though has shown he's not quite up to NRL level week in week out. Caught between ISP and NRL standard, me thinks.

Drinkwater may have been a far better NRL halfback if he was playing in fg fulltime and Cleary coaching him…..he had plenty of knockers that dont really understand situations like he had....playing under a coach in ISP and to a certain structure that he got used to and for most of the time before leaving he delivered,on the other hand thrown into NRL with a different coach under different structures as a fill in doesnt always work and it made him look poorer than his ISPform..

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

One week ago I wanted Farah for Captain but knew many were still licking their wounds. The ones who were nearby but didn't chase when he made his break should be given titty bottles

 

[TrueTiger]

Dammit why isn't a 23 year-old footballer a proven leader of men? Should have already happened by now.

Honestly all this talk about Brooks being the leader, calling the shots etc. That's what I'd expect of blokes like Packer, Farah, Marshall, not a kid. Sure Brooks has been around a while but he's still a kid and being the halfback has all the pressure.

Nate Cleary certainly doesn't call all the shots when the game is on the line - he's able to rely on Maloney for that. And at club level, that partnership is breaking down recently, a couple of really ordinary losses for what was a table-topping side. Cleary is still also a kid.

We didn't lack for scoring opportunities on Sunday, we lacked for clinical finishing. It occurred across the park - Naiqama, Reynolds, Mbye, Farah, Brooks, Masters all making poor choices or fumbling with the try-line begging.

Brooks not cleared of criticism by any means, but I just don't support these threads where Brooks is having a pretty good season all over, but because the team has fallen down, it must be specifically someone's fault and here is the thread where we've identified an easy target.

More excuses

How constructive. Anyway not excuses, that's actually what I observed to happen - plenty of try-scoring possibilities, lack of actually scoring tries. Brooks is not absolved of criticism, but he is no more or less to blame from this specific match than anyone else in the team.

Sack Brooks, sure, most consistent half we've had this year. Play whom? Gamble? Benji and Reynolds? Godinet?

The reason fans aren't coaches is because some fans think they can just wipe a team - sack this bloke, sack that bloke, get a replacement. No constructive observations, no consideration of the reality of contracts, player market, available players.

Benji/Reynolds if benj body up to it.

Brooks is not an isolated season. me and other fans have had enough and cannot stomach more excuses.

How long do you stick with him until you make the tough call to get rid of him.

If Tui was fully fit and reliable and wasn't promised fb,his form at 5/8 last year was great…put Benji or Grub at halfback and we win a lot more games than we have,that is until injuries have hit us...just saying...

 

[Bones]

More excuses

How constructive. Anyway not excuses, that's actually what I observed to happen - plenty of try-scoring possibilities, lack of actually scoring tries. Brooks is not absolved of criticism, but he is no more or less to blame from this specific match than anyone else in the team.

Sack Brooks, sure, most consistent half we've had this year. Play whom? Gamble? Benji and Reynolds? Godinet?

The reason fans aren't coaches is because some fans think they can just wipe a team - sack this bloke, sack that bloke, get a replacement. No constructive observations, no consideration of the reality of contracts, player market, available players.

Benji/Reynolds if benj body up to it.

Brooks is not an isolated season. me and other fans have had enough and cannot stomach more excuses.

How long do you stick with him until you make the tough call to get rid of him.

If Tui was fully fit and reliable and wasn't promised fb,his form at 5/8 last year was great…put Benji or Grub at halfback and we win a lot more games than we have,that is until injuries have hit us...just saying...

Good idea with Benji and Reynolds as our halves we will never get past the 3rd tackle without one of them putting in a kick for no one. Might have higher completions i guess.

Funny how Brooks drop in form has happened at the exact same time as our entire forward pack went MIA.

 

[Geo]

yep /..I'm out

 

[hobbo]

yep /..I'm out

Wow !
Lemon /lime and bitter !

:laughing:

 

[TrueTiger]

yep /..I'm out

Its only a conversation and ideas,we all know that Ivan wants Brooks at 7,otherwise he would of got rid of him earlier than now… :slight_smile:

 

[TrueTiger]

yep /..I'm out

Wow !
Lemon /lime and bitter !

:laughing:

Dont antagonise the mods Hobbo….it normally doesnt end well...trust me...

 

[Needaname]

Look. His getting their don’t get me wrong. But I would love to be a fly on the wall when Ivan has those conversations saying; Luke I need you to get the team around the park.
I’m just not sure he wants to do that and come up with the play at the end of set?
It’s a rare player having the ability to do both. I think Brooks can do both but not at the same time.
Him running on the last. There was space. Do you remember he last time he did that, he chipped into the middle and Valentine Holmes raced away under the posts. The runners were all out of position, we needed just one to cut back on the inside and we would have been under the posts.

I’m sick of block plays, I feel that is biggest issue with Luke is he is receiving the ball too flat and being forced to come across field. It’s probably a tactic but I don’t think it suits Luke’s game.
When we played manly, Brooks had all the time in the world as was able to come up with what he needed each time.
Now we know our forwards are playing like powder puffs. This could have a lot to do with it.
You have to realise though. Ash Taylor grew up being the top dog. If Brooks growing up with the tantrum throwing Moses would never of got a word in edgeways. If he wants to be the organiser, it’s a whole new learning curve for him.
But does he?
A bit like Tui, are these two players Square Pegs?

At the moment he is exposed as being the only organiser and playmaker in the halves.

It took Benji along time to adapt to being the organiser, anyone remember 2012? Benji was 26 at the time…
In my opinion he never really settled into that role until he played halfback for Saints, at 28?
I think Brooks and Marshall are our best combo.
Who would of thought?
Certainly not Cleary who bought Reynolds as a running 5/8 to force Brooks into playing an all round halfbacks game.

 

[hobbo]

yep /..I'm out

Wow !
Lemon /lime and bitter !

:laughing:

Dont antagonise the mods Hobbo….it normally doesnt end well...trust me...

Just going on happy’s instuctions :laughing:

 

[TrueTiger]

Look. His getting their don’t get me wrong. But I would love to be a fly on the wall when Ivan has those conversations saying; Luke I need you to get the team around the park.
I’m just not sure he wants to do that and come up with the play at the end of set?
It’s a rare player having the ability to do both. I think Brooks can do both but not at the same time.
Him running on the last. There was space. Do you remember he last time he did that, he chipped into the middle and Valentine Holmes raced away under the posts. The runners were all out of position, we needed just one to cut back on the inside and we would have been under the posts.

I’m sick of block plays, I feel that is biggest issue with Luke is he is receiving the ball too flat and being forced to come across field. It’s probably a tactic but I don’t think it suits Luke’s game.
When we played manly, Brooks had all the time in the world as was able to come up with what he needed each time.
Now we know our forwards are playing like powder puffs. This could have a lot to do with it.
You have to realise though. Ash Taylor grew up being the top dog. If Brooks growing up with the tantrum throwing Moses would never of got a word in edgeways. If he wants to be the organiser, it’s a whole new learning curve for him.
But does he?
A bit like Tui, are these two players Square Pegs?

At the moment he is exposed as being the only organiser and playmaker in the halves.

It took Benji along time to adapt to being the organiser, anyone remember 2012? Benji was 26 at the time…
In my opinion he never really settled into that role until he played halfback for Saints, at 28?
I think Brooks and Marshall are our best combo.
Who would of thought?
Certainly not Cleary who bought Reynolds as a running 5/8 to force Brooks into playing an all round halfbacks game.

Brooks has definately played better with Benji in the team,I honestly cant say that he would play just as well with Reynolds alongside of him,we dont know what happens at training and we havent seen enough of Grub at 5/8,he certainly ran well and scored a great try on Sunday..
Also remember that Luke was given inferior service from our makeshift DHs we had to field,he could improve much more with Farahs service from DH and his experience…

 

[851]

Dammit why isn't a 23 year-old footballer a proven leader of men? Should have already happened by now.

Honestly all this talk about Brooks being the leader, calling the shots etc. That's what I'd expect of blokes like Packer, Farah, Marshall, not a kid. Sure Brooks has been around a while but he's still a kid and being the halfback has all the pressure.

Nate Cleary certainly doesn't call all the shots when the game is on the line - he's able to rely on Maloney for that. And at club level, that partnership is breaking down recently, a couple of really ordinary losses for what was a table-topping side. Cleary is still also a kid.

We didn't lack for scoring opportunities on Sunday, we lacked for clinical finishing. It occurred across the park - Naiqama, Reynolds, Mbye, Farah, Brooks, Masters all making poor choices or fumbling with the try-line begging.

Brooks not cleared of criticism by any means, but I just don't support these threads where Brooks is having a pretty good season all over, but because the team has fallen down, it must be specifically someone's fault and here is the thread where we've identified an easy target.

He was schooled by a guy 9 months younger with 34 less NRL games, Ash Taylor got monstered by Rowdy a number of times. But he worked out a way around the problem and was a leader of men and got his team home, so it can be done, just not by Brooks

 

[Nucky_Thompson]

More excuses

How constructive. Anyway not excuses, that's actually what I observed to happen - plenty of try-scoring possibilities, lack of actually scoring tries. Brooks is not absolved of criticism, but he is no more or less to blame from this specific match than anyone else in the team.

Sack Brooks, sure, most consistent half we've had this year. Play whom? Gamble? Benji and Reynolds? Godinet?

The reason fans aren't coaches is because some fans think they can just wipe a team - sack this bloke, sack that bloke, get a replacement. No constructive observations, no consideration of the reality of contracts, player market, available players.

Benji/Reynolds if benj body up to it.

Brooks is not an isolated season. me and other fans have had enough and cannot stomach more excuses.

How long do you stick with him until you make the tough call to get rid of him.

If Tui was fully fit and reliable and wasn't promised fb,his form at 5/8 last year was great…put Benji or Grub at halfback and we win a lot more games than we have,that is until injuries have hit us...just saying...

Exactly.

How long does brooks retain the golden ticket. There other options out there.

If he cannt be the scott prince type player we need start making the tough calls like they do with other people.

 

[jirskyr]

Dammit why isn't a 23 year-old footballer a proven leader of men? Should have already happened by now.

Honestly all this talk about Brooks being the leader, calling the shots etc. That's what I'd expect of blokes like Packer, Farah, Marshall, not a kid. Sure Brooks has been around a while but he's still a kid and being the halfback has all the pressure.

Nate Cleary certainly doesn't call all the shots when the game is on the line - he's able to rely on Maloney for that. And at club level, that partnership is breaking down recently, a couple of really ordinary losses for what was a table-topping side. Cleary is still also a kid.

We didn't lack for scoring opportunities on Sunday, we lacked for clinical finishing. It occurred across the park - Naiqama, Reynolds, Mbye, Farah, Brooks, Masters all making poor choices or fumbling with the try-line begging.

Brooks not cleared of criticism by any means, but I just don't support these threads where Brooks is having a pretty good season all over, but because the team has fallen down, it must be specifically someone's fault and here is the thread where we've identified an easy target.

He was schooled by a guy 9 months younger with 34 less NRL games, Ash Taylor got monstered by Rowdy a number of times. But he worked out a way around the problem and was a leader of men and got his team home, so it can be done, just not by Brooks

Isn't that funny, Brooks wins us games earlier in the year but that credit is lost on the weekend. Ash Taylor certainly does not single-handedly steer his team to victory on Sunday and he's used as a shining example, despite the fact his team has won 6 games all year, less than us.