gallagher
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Cheers Jolls! Love ya work
CEO Forum 20 Jan 26 - Hotwash Part 1
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tigertragic
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This ‘suggested’ support by PVL for Wests Tigers rather than HBG is great but only comforting whilst ever PVL is in control.
The next leader ‘say’ in 5 years time, not an unreasonable likely end term for PVL, is when the current NRL club arrangements are suggested to be up for re evaluation. I forget the correct term being stated for this 2030 agreement end date/review.
Then the real HBG games ‘may’ begin.
I hope this never eventuates but I have no faith in the honest intentions of HBG and feel the recent issues have to resolved permanently not just reliant on current PVL pressures on HBG.
The next leader ‘say’ in 5 years time, not an unreasonable likely end term for PVL, is when the current NRL club arrangements are suggested to be up for re evaluation. I forget the correct term being stated for this 2030 agreement end date/review.
Then the real HBG games ‘may’ begin.
I hope this never eventuates but I have no faith in the honest intentions of HBG and feel the recent issues have to resolved permanently not just reliant on current PVL pressures on HBG.
Flip side is ,they outsmarted themselves , if they don't get with the programme and get swapped out for another franchise .
They all sold their soles for a slice of the pie - every single club
Dont know mate just stumbled across it was wondering if you'd chatted with this bloke...first time ive seen him on FB didnt check his youtube
Lasts until the next bend over for the money sign off is due in a few years
The other clubs such as the Dogs poor millions into their team and reap the rewards through fans spending at their clubs
Imagine, Wests clubs throughout Sydney all packed on game day because the Tigers are winning...
Jolls
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This is what I found after digging around mid last year:
......The sources are from all over the shop so it may not be comparing apples with apples, but if you look at what they generate and what's contibuted it is significantly more that our staff are playing with so we are definitely doing it on the skinny.
| Club | Est. Revenue (2024) | Owner | Reported investment in NRL spend |
|---|---|---|---|
| Warriors | ~A$11.6 M | Autex Industries (Mark Robinson) | Club earns approx 11.6M in revenue. I could find no information on how this is invested. No info on owner donations |
| Manly Sea Eagles | ~A$11.5 M | Scott Penn (100% owner) | Club earns approx $11.5M but I could find no information on how this is invested. Peen is reported to have invested an addtional $6.6 M since 2006 ($2.6M as a personal donation) |
| Canberra Raiders | ~A$25.9 M (franchise); league club ~A$92 M | Canberra District RL Football Club | $5 M+ via league‑club profits Canberra Raiders is a not for profit so this is the spend on top of the NRL grant. |
| Cronulla Sharks | ~A$19.5–22 M | Cronulla‑Sutherland District RLFC | $5M on top of a $2.74M football department profit in 2024. The Sharks are not run as a Not for Profit organisation; but the Leagues Club is. There is potential for funding to increase once new Leagues Club is complete ($30M investment) |
| Wests Tigers | ~A$67.8 M* (non‑grant income) | Holman Barnes Group (via Wests Ashfield Leagues Clubs) | 1.8M (2024) Wests Tigers is a not for profit so this is the spend on top of the NRL grant. |
You can only imagine how much the like of Brisbane and the Storm are throwing around. The bottom line is that HBG are doing bugger all for us, even though their primary objective si to support rugby league in the region. You have to wonder, given the objectives of the club, how they can justify funding sports like rugby union and soccer , that are in direct competition for our junior base. I get it that it s community based club - but it is a community based rugby league club. It appear that most of the pokies $ go back into the clubs as oopposed to supporting the growth and development of Wests Tiges and our pathways. This is the norm that Shaun and his team are targeting for change.
wstigers11
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Ridiculously underfunded. The dogs spend $5 million annually on pathways and development alone.
gallagher
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Cheers mate. It seems they can afford to put more in, but the club itself isn't much better. Playing at substandard grounds instead of stadiums that generate more income doesn't make sense.
We're a stupid club from to to bottom.
TIGERS
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Hmmm, not sure looking at the balance sheet tells the whole story. Like I'd rather see 1 million spent under Richo than 5 million spent under Pascoe. Extra money with the wrong person in charge just gets invested into barber shops and too many Scott Fultons getting 250k and leaking about Aidan Sezer. Steve Noyce was better for us as CEO because he understood grassroots footy clubs, far better than super corporate Stephen Humphries who ruined our salary cap and couldn't lie straight in bed.
Same with amount of people at a club. Any more than 4 opinions in a meeting, they start to take longer and get less specific results. I've heard that Gallant is really good at what he does. Not saying that less is always better, but sometimes leaner operations can be more effective and agile than big lumbering giants, or comfy status quo setups. The club has fantastic facilities so I wouldn't say its completely under resourced.
Wests Tigers shouldn't need HBG in the same way that Souths no longer need Rusty as their sugar daddy. Souths are profitable in their own right. And I feel like the the NRL grant being what it is, that really changed the dynamic of HBG's influence is a really ironic way. HBG kind of get to stand on the shoulders of broadcast value, and the political weight they are throwing around is not proportionate to what they contribute, (or have historically contributed) in real terms.
Look back to how broke and under-resourced the club was in 2013 to see how Wests Ashfield turn up in a crisis.
Shouldn’t but we are a long way off given how the club has been administered previously as such we need the funding.
HBG as owners who enforce that very publicly need to back it up with serious investment to make this club the power it should be.
Jolls
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I get where you are coming from - but we really are operating on a shoestring compared to other clubs. Gven the NRL covers the budget to get the team on the paddock, and pay the players, the extra funding goes a long way to making the difference between top and bottom teams.
Your point about the wise use of money and wastage is good; and I think that we do pretty well with what we have. However, we are building and maintaing a roster at the moment off the back of Benji's influence, whereas , clubs like the Rooster/Brisbane/Melbourne have a significant advantage as outlined below.
Significantly Larger Commercial Revenues. Clubs with bigger budgets generate far more money from corporate partnerships, game-day sales, memberships, merchandising and hospitality — giving them more to reinvest in both football and non-football operations.
A leaked NRL financial report shows that the Broncos had around $48.9 m in commercial revenue, far ahead of others, while we are near the bottom at about $13.4 m in total commercial revenue. https://7news.com.au/sport/rugby-le...ort-has-brisbane-broncos-clear-no1-c-19163009
- Benefit: Greater cash flow allows top clubs to invest more in facilities, staff, scouting and fan engagement, enhancing competitiveness and overall club quality.
Penrith Panthers was named Australia’s most valuable sporting brand at around $129 m, with Broncos also extremely high (about $120 m). Our brand — by comparison — sits well below the top group. https://www.penrithpanthers.com.au/...as officially been,and Brisbane Broncos (NRL).
- Benefit: High brand value attracts premium sponsorships, elite player interest and global recognition, reinforcing financial strength.
More Competitive Player Recruitment and Retention (Induced by Off-Field Support). While the NRL imposes a hard salary cap the richer clubs have indirect advantages that make them more attractive for players.
The salary cap sets a limit on player payments to the top 30 players but does not limit corporate hospitality, relocation packages, or perks that can enhance overall player experience (e.g., support staff, facilities). https://www.nrl.com/operations/integrity/salary-cap/
- Benefit: Wealthier clubs can afford better medical, training, recovery resources, more specialised staff, and more attractive game-day environments — making them more appealing destinations. This helps in recruiting or retaining quality talent even within the salary cap system.
Stronger Sponsorship Bargaining Power. Bigger clubs attract more and higher-value corporate partners, boosting revenue stability and providing additional investment capacity. We recently secured Pepper Money as a significant major sponsor, marking one of tour largest deals. This is a positive step but still smaller in scale compared to sponsorship stacks of wealthier rivals.
- Benefit: More sponsors translates into: Higher corporate hospitality revenue; More promotional opportunities and events; and, Greater marketing budgets to grow the fanbase.
- Benefit: Stronger community support equals more stable recurring income and broader commercial appeal.
I guess at the end of the day we are punching abouve our funded weight, but if we truly want to be a top 4 club, and have the best pathways system in the world - it isn't happening without $.
