Chris Lawrence let down by Tigers

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king_sirro

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That's my take on things.

With reports that our facilities are pathetic, strength and conditioning not suited to rugby league and rehab clearly not good enough, I can't help but assume Lawrence hasn't had the best chance to recover from his injuries.

With all this being fixed I think we can finally make a fair judgment on Chris by mid season 2015.

I often think of the painstaking rehab that Andrew Johns and Anthony Minichielo had to endure to recapture their form. I have no doubt Chris needs the same type of treatment to get himself right. His training needs to be programmed for him as an individual.

I know most have given up hope on him but if Taylor and the club provide this for him I feel he will get his body right and do a good job for us.

I think the guy hasn't been able to do any genuine agility training for years, and once his body is right that will change and so will his form.
 
KS,agree to a point,but also he needs a confidence boost after the severe injury he had,and this does take time although he seemed to have enough time to produce better performances.I believe and some won't agree with me that Lote had bad injuries and did nothing for us during his time with us,the chance he has been given at Souths he has produced great football and is older than Rowdy,I contribute this to hard work under Maguire and very good S&C facilities,and also CONFIDENCE in your playing ability… :smiley: :sign:
 
@king sirro said:
That's my take on things.

With reports that our facilities are pathetic, strength and conditioning not suited to rugby league and rehab clearly not good enough, I can't help but assume Lawrence hasn't had the best chance to recover from his injuries.

With all this being fixed I think we can finally make a fair judgment on Chris by mid season 2015.

I often think of the painstaking rehab that Andrew Johns and Anthony Minichielo had to endure to recapture their form. I have no doubt Chris needs the same type of treatment to get himself right. His training needs to be programmed for him as an individual.

I know most have given up hope on him but if Taylor and the club provide this for him I feel he will get his body right and do a good job for us.

I think the guy hasn't been able to do any genuine agility training for years, and once his body is right that will change and so will his form.
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What rubbish.

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@TrueTiger said:
KS,agree to a point,but also he needs a confidence boost after the severe injury he had,and this does take time although he seemed to have enough time to produce better performances.I believe and some won't agree with me that Lote had bad injuries and did nothing for us during his time with us,the chance he has been given at Souths he has produced great football and is older than Rowdy,I contribute this to hard work under Maguire and very good S&C facilities,and also CONFIDENCE in your playing ability… :smiley: :sign:
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I couldn't agree more. Lote Tuqiri has gone from strength to strength since joining Souths, and I'm sure that is due to better facilities.

He spent most of his time with us on the sideline, what a waste and a shame. Lets hope you are right about Chris L and we can get him back to his former self (as a player) once again this would be a waste of great potential if we don't :exclamation: :blush:
 
KS If I remember correctly I think you mentioned you had a knee reco ??

Although they are different injuries , he would of been operated on by an orthaepaedic specialist and probably the best in Sydney

He would of advised the club on what rehab would of needed to be done (same as a knee reco )

What you are suggesting is the club didn't have the facilities to help Rowdy recover from his injury so they did nothing about it and did something different risking his career ??

As you and I both know having had knee recos is the Drs and physio tell you what you need to do to maximise your recovery and you would be made not to follow those instructions to the letter

Rowdy is a very smart bloke and from what I've been told works harder than any player at the club, do you honestly think he would of heard what the Drs said about his rehab and the physios said about his rehab and then let the clubs do something completely different ??

Dr Kuah is a highly respected Dr and has been involved with the club for many years , I'm sure if he has concerns over Rowdy rehab and physio he would of stepped in

Sorry KS mate I normally respect what you have to say , but I think your very wide of the mark on this one

Like many major injuries , you usually have a 2 year window with your recovery , after that improvements are very minimal

What we see with Rowdy is what we have got unfortunately It might be very sad , but its true
 
I disagree. You can't always fix something that has been broken.
 
I wonder if, when Rowdy does retire, he does admit that he has never felt the same, since having the injury.

so disappointing to see a player with much talent / potential, not able to be fulfilled. :unamused:
 
Happy I have had 2 reconstructions and I mean no disrespect to the doctors u mention and I did consider what u are saying before I posted. My main point is not against those who operated and other doctors. You find that they advise to a degree on rehab but in actual fact have very little to do with the long term recovery regarding rehab. And that's where I feel the best avenues for Chris as an individual haven't been explored, through and combination of rehab and conditioning. Both John's and Minichielo seeked help from outside there club to specifically focus on there needs by an appropriate expert. The Tigers need to do this with Chris.

I'm not saying he will get back to his best, all um saying is that he hasn't had the best chance yet and hopefully that will change.
 
Unfortunately, he was in the team for last 3-4 years only because he is a member of 'boys club'.
ATM, he shall be behind Fine, Naiqama (if signed?), Save, Milone, Jy Hitchcox and even Moltzen.

Go Tigers :sign:
 
@king sirro said:
Happy I have had 2 reconstructions and I mean no disrespect to the doctors u mention and I did consider what u are saying before I posted. My main point is not against those who operated and other doctors. You find that they advise to a degree on rehab but in actual fact have very little to do with the long term recovery regarding rehab. And that's where I feel the best avenues for Chris as an individual haven't been explored, through and combination of rehab and conditioning. Both John's and Minichielo seeked help from outside there club to specifically focus on there needs by an appropriate expert. The Tigers need to do this with Chris.

I'm not saying he will get back to his best, all um saying is that he hasn't had the best chance yet and hopefully that will change.
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I don't know how talented the sprint coach was we employed last season , but that would of been Rowdy's best option within that two year window

Change his running style and see if he can get quicker and more mobile

But he and or the club just chose to make him bigger and that would of just hindered his speed and lateral movement even more
 
I agree. I think Sheens ruined his career by bringing him in too early and bringing him in back too early from injury.. but can he get back to good form now? 50-50 who knows?
 
@happy tiger said:
Although they are different injuries , he would of been operated on by an orthaepaedic specialist and probably the best in Sydney

He would of advised the club on what rehab would of needed to be done (same as a knee reco )

What you are suggesting is the club didn't have the facilities to help Rowdy recover from his injury so they did nothing about it and did something different risking his career ??

As you and I both know having had knee recos is the Drs and physio tell you what you need to do to maximise your recovery and you would be made not to follow those instructions to the letter

Rowdy is a very smart bloke and from what I've been told works harder than any player at the club, do you honestly think he would of heard what the Drs said about his rehab and the physios said about his rehab and then let the clubs do something completely different ??

Dr Kuah is a highly respected Dr and has been involved with the club for many years , I'm sure if he has concerns over Rowdy rehab and physio he would of stepped in

Sorry KS mate I normally respect what you have to say , but I think your very wide of the mark on this one

Like many major injuries , you usually have a 2 year window with your recovery , after that improvements are very minimal

What we see with Rowdy is what we have got unfortunately It might be very sad , but its true
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Yep.

This report that came out and the comments regarding our facilities have really led to some dumb comments.

The players are getting treated by top quality doctors. Its not like we are sending them to Afghanistan to get our medical care done on the cheap.
 
Every time I have heard Lawrence talk it's WE should have or WE need to hold the ball or WE missed tackles.

The problem is YOU Lawrence YOU.

I hope Taylor doesn't feel the need to keep him in 1st grade like Potter did no matter how badly he plays.
 
KS does raise a pretty interesting point. Would be interesting to see how he'd have returned if he played for the Rabbitohs or the Roosters. Especially the way Lote resurrected himself this yr. Its a legit question to ask how much has his rehab/form been a result of this clubs pre-historic resources.

Gareth Widdop suffered a a dislocated hip last yr (granted not as bad, his hip popped straight back in, Lawrence had to be sedated) and he came within 3 or 4 points of the Dally M this yr.
 
Lawrence represented Australia post hip injury his form in 2010/11 was pretty good…he has just lost it....With the focus just on how poor our facilities are in the area of S & C being highlighted as an area that needs vasy improvement I hope it does aid Rowdy...

I'm prepared to give everybody a fresh start...If his form doesn't improve ...it's up to Taylor to do something about it ...time will tell
 
@fergiefurr said:
His constant leg injuries don't force him to make 3-4 basic handling errors a game.

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No but lack of confidence will, which is caused by with a body that isn't right for an extended time
 
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