Cosimo_Zaretti
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@tigertilidie said:
CH9 agreed try, it was clearly on the paint with downward pressure. It got painfully replayed throughout the evening. Sportsbet paid out on Nofo as first try scorer.
Class Action Vs Shayne Hayne
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CH9 agreed try, it was clearly on the paint with downward pressure. It got painfully replayed throughout the evening. Sportsbet paid out on Nofo as first try scorer.
tigermaniac
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I coach junior league and have always been frustrated with the system that starts them off. As coach I'm forbidden to talk or touch a referee before, during or after the game. These guys continuously get the calls wrong, and no I'm not talking about my team.
What is wrong with the system is that there is no register of complaints or compliments to weed out the good from the bad, so the way I see it is that when these guys get to NRL level it is more to do with fitness than anything else.
The bottom line with a refereeing decision is keeping your calls consistent for both sides. In tonight's game Manly held us down in tackles a lot longer then the referee will allow us, so we get penalised more often and eventually frustration will set in, another contest ruined. With these inconsistencies how can you compete on a level playing field.
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What is wrong with the system is that there is no register of complaints or compliments to weed out the good from the bad, so the way I see it is that when these guys get to NRL level it is more to do with fitness than anything else.
The bottom line with a refereeing decision is keeping your calls consistent for both sides. In tonight's game Manly held us down in tackles a lot longer then the referee will allow us, so we get penalised more often and eventually frustration will set in, another contest ruined. With these inconsistencies how can you compete on a level playing field.
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sideline_eye
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LeichhardtTiger, a couple of your posts in this thread are so far outside forum rules that the mods should delete them. The rest of what you say about suing the referee is pure fantasy; it will never happen but if you think that you are on solid ground, legally, then I say go for it. Don't wait for others, just do it and I wish you all the luck in the world in getting your admission money back.
It's actually so ****ing easy to fix up most of the reffing.
1) Captains challenge. 1 incorrect one per half.
2) Allow the video ref to whisper in the refs ear if they see something on replay that goes against the onfield decision. This will have to be refined to make it as quick as possible because decisions cant be reversed if play has resumed.
3) Centralized video reffing to make it more consistent and maybe faster/better: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/war-room-plan-for-all-video-decisions-20130401-2h359.html
4) Adjust the 2 ref system to have only ONE main ref and the other pocket ref can just do the 10 metres and offsides.
Long term: more money for refs to give incentives for people to become refs. Hopefully this means more quality referees to choose from.
1) Captains challenge. 1 incorrect one per half.
2) Allow the video ref to whisper in the refs ear if they see something on replay that goes against the onfield decision. This will have to be refined to make it as quick as possible because decisions cant be reversed if play has resumed.
3) Centralized video reffing to make it more consistent and maybe faster/better: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/war-room-plan-for-all-video-decisions-20130401-2h359.html
4) Adjust the 2 ref system to have only ONE main ref and the other pocket ref can just do the 10 metres and offsides.
Long term: more money for refs to give incentives for people to become refs. Hopefully this means more quality referees to choose from.
Slater & Gordon are ambulance chasers of the highest order. Wouldn't be surprised if the muckrakers from the Terrorgraph read this and we see a story in tomorrow's paper.
FTR the decision to not check the try doesn't excuse the following 77.5 minutes of utter shite that was served up by the guys in black, white & orange. This club has it ingrained on their psyche to drop their heads when things go against them and that needs to change more than Hayne's "arrogance." OP is taking the piss.
FTR the decision to not check the try doesn't excuse the following 77.5 minutes of utter shite that was served up by the guys in black, white & orange. This club has it ingrained on their psyche to drop their heads when things go against them and that needs to change more than Hayne's "arrogance." OP is taking the piss.
larrycorowa
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Agreed we need to be better in adversity but I am seeing some change. Some people have short memories….the Canberra win was brave and we wouldn't have won that game in the Benji era. Realistically we would have done well to be even competitive in that game: rookie 1, 7; brand new 6\. Busted arse 3 & 4\. Richards cant walk after 2 mins....Halatau world slowest centre gets shifted. Robbie and Woods wouldn't have trained with the team. Plus we don't get the ball for the first 20 mins. 5 day backup after gruelling game vs Canberra.
I suspect you will see a vastly improved performance this week. Potter will be forced to blood some new three quarters this week (is Moltzen a keeper? can the NSW Cup talent measure up) which will be good long-term as some hard decisions need to be made with these in the next few months as Potter assembles a squad for 2015.
I suspect you will see a vastly improved performance this week. Potter will be forced to blood some new three quarters this week (is Moltzen a keeper? can the NSW Cup talent measure up) which will be good long-term as some hard decisions need to be made with these in the next few months as Potter assembles a squad for 2015.
@tigermaniac said:
I know of plenty of referees in junior football that have needed police or officials to escot them from the ground because coaches and others wanted to physically hurt them. And those referees were just teenagers. That's why you are not allowed to approach the referees.
I had a go refereeing junior football in my younger days. You can get 99% of calls right but everyone will remember you for the 1%. Everyone involved in the game from players, coaches and commentators make mistakes in a game. The odd mistake is made and forgotten for them, but not so easily for the referees.
The commentators are the worst. They bag out the refs but constantly get players names wrong and misinterpret the game. They don't help with the anti ref culture.
happy_tiger
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If people want to get their opinions to the NRL you could do it one of two ways
Send an envelop with a 5c piece inside it and address it to Shayne Hayne c/o the NRL
Or send a piece of WT's stuff you don't put a high value on to the NRL and tell them until they fix the issues with refs you won't re-sign as a member
Personally I think they only people the hierarchy will listen to are the players and they have to do something about all the issues that are hounding our game
Send an envelop with a 5c piece inside it and address it to Shayne Hayne c/o the NRL
Or send a piece of WT's stuff you don't put a high value on to the NRL and tell them until they fix the issues with refs you won't re-sign as a member
Personally I think they only people the hierarchy will listen to are the players and they have to do something about all the issues that are hounding our game
larrycorowa
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OK, think its time to stop whinging about the ref….trust the system to sort it out.....focus on taking responsibility for the mistakes we made and get on with the job of trying to beat the bulldogs.
At the end of the day Hayne was diabolical, but at the end of the day we were worse.
At the end of the day Hayne was diabolical, but at the end of the day we were worse.
happy_tiger
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@larrycorowa said:
I totally agree that we were shocking LC
I just feel we are starting to see the same problems in the game that lead to Super League
The NRL won't listen to clubs and players grievances , and are creating a haves and have nots mentality
larrycorowa
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Game is in a state of flux. Smith is trying to modernise the game. He has a huge staff which are trying to justify their positions and getting some things right but some badly wrong.
Case in point. This bloke Doyle making a song and dance about players being caught betting. He was correct in saying that players have been sanctioned and showing that the NRL is being vigilant. But completely wrong in naming the players for very minor infractions. One player I am aware of stood to make 80c from his bet, he had been injured for four years and was just starting to get a run and was stood down for 2 weeks. Could be career defining…how is that fair?
Second point. The referring has regressed. Video refs over playing their role. Making rules and not enforcing them (captains questioning decisions when they have been clearly told when they can do this). I get sick of this.....team has given away 3 penalties, attacking team is peppering the line, Kline calls defending captain over and explains there have been 3 penalties in a row (as if the captain didn't know) and to clean it up. They get penalised again and nothing happens.
Stop issuing motherhood statements, get a feel for the game and if you feel that the defending team is deliberately infringing to slow play and prevent attacking team scoring, send a player to the bin and I can almost guarantee it won't happen again.
Case in point. This bloke Doyle making a song and dance about players being caught betting. He was correct in saying that players have been sanctioned and showing that the NRL is being vigilant. But completely wrong in naming the players for very minor infractions. One player I am aware of stood to make 80c from his bet, he had been injured for four years and was just starting to get a run and was stood down for 2 weeks. Could be career defining…how is that fair?
Second point. The referring has regressed. Video refs over playing their role. Making rules and not enforcing them (captains questioning decisions when they have been clearly told when they can do this). I get sick of this.....team has given away 3 penalties, attacking team is peppering the line, Kline calls defending captain over and explains there have been 3 penalties in a row (as if the captain didn't know) and to clean it up. They get penalised again and nothing happens.
Stop issuing motherhood statements, get a feel for the game and if you feel that the defending team is deliberately infringing to slow play and prevent attacking team scoring, send a player to the bin and I can almost guarantee it won't happen again.
Cosimo_Zaretti
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@pHyR3 said:
When they brought in the 2 ref system I assumed this was how it would work. If the pocket ref did nothing but keep the defence in line, and did it well, it would improve the game.
AmericanHistoryX
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@GNR4LIFE said:
who cares. All he/she wants is justice. So do we all.
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