Coach can't train intelligence.

[YesHeCheeKam]

What is with these short drop outs all of a sudden? Can understand if your two points down with a minute left. But in the middle of a game what do they achieve?

And if you are going to do them, then Rugby League 101 would be if your going to let the other guy catch up you tackle him straight away.

 

[glange]

Losing Daine Lauire was a massive turning point so early in the game. I truly believe that if he played the game, we win handsomely. The real issue, though, is how poorly individuals failed to adapt to losing the strike attacking player. We needed leadership and stability and much more from Adam Doueihi in this respect. I'm sorry to say that I think he's is a lazy footballer and, just when we needed him to stand up and take control, he went missing. I know it's not fair to single any one player out, but of those who could have made the difference after the loss of Laurie, he disappointed me the most.

Watch other teams lose players against the worst competition. They still win.

 

[Harvey]

Is he expected to train heart or effort?

I have never seen such a lazy, pathetic bunch of flogs. The number of players out there looking for someone else to make the effort on their behalf is amazing.

Mbye, MCK, Talau, Luci. Some have no idea, and some want to make the hero play. 1 attempt at a big play every 20 minutes is a pathetic effort.

 

[glange]

Is he expected to train heart or effort?

I have never seen such a lazy, pathetic bunch of flogs. The number of players out there looking for someone else to make the effort on their behalf is amazing.

Mbye, MCK, Talau, Luci. Some have no idea, and some want to make the hero play. 1 attempt at a big play every 20 minutes is a pathetic effort.

YES

 

[aturkey]

Is he expected to train heart or effort?

I have never seen such a lazy, pathetic bunch of flogs. The number of players out there looking for someone else to make the effort on their behalf is amazing.

Mbye, MCK, Talau, Luci. Some have no idea, and some want to make the hero play. 1 attempt at a big play every 20 minutes is a pathetic effort.

YES HE IS

 

[hugh1954]

train

If Brooks is our experienced leader with brains then we are doomed for years to come, just pray hastings has some football smarts because brooks unfortunately never will. Move him on asap too many chances from our club. Cant grow smarts afer 150 games and wish him well with his new club

 

[Crucible]

So can the Luke Brooks Liberation Army tell me how Brooks as one the most experienced players out there tonight and Captain, appeared to be completely overwhelmed. Don't tell me he is one of the top four half backs in the competition. He is though one of the top four paid Half Backs in the competition. DUD.

 

[Demps]

That short kick that lead to a try was very embarrassing.

Then to see them try it again...
Very poor choices tonight.
Very disappointing effort.

 

[Guest]

I would agree 100% in terms of game plans, use of the bench, and ability manage a game, we are one of the worst in the comp, only ahead of the Broncos.

 

[TillLindemann]

Losing Daine Lauire was a massive turning point so early in the game. I truly believe that if he played the game, we win handsomely. The real issue, though, is how poorly individuals failed to adapt to losing the strike attacking player. We needed leadership and stability and much more from Adam Doueihi in this respect. I'm sorry to say that I think he's is a lazy footballer and, just when we needed him to stand up and take control, he went missing. I know it's not fair to single any one player out, but of those who could have made the difference after the loss of Laurie, he disappointed me the most.

Watch other teams lose players against the worst competition. They still win.

Yeah but other teams have other good players. We can't afford to lose Laurie because 90% of the rest of the team are useless bozos. If Laurie is out for the season we won't win another game this year.

 

[izotope]

After last week why was the short kick off/dropout even allowed

 

[hobbo1]

That short kick that lead to a try was very embarrassing.

Then to see them try it again...
Very poor choices tonight.
Very disappointing effort.

That should be on the comedy channel

 

[Harvey]

That short kick that lead to a try was very embarrassing.

Then to see them try it again...
Very poor choices tonight.
Very disappointing effort.

That should be on the comedy channel

About as thought out as the 2, 2 point field goal attempts or the half dozen cross field kicks

 

[WT2019]

I would agree 100% in terms of game plans, use of the bench, and ability manage a game, we are one of the worst in the comp, only ahead of the Broncos.

Agree 100% and add 2 field goal attempts showed we have no confidence in attack.

 

[hobbo1]

That short kick that lead to a try was very embarrassing.

Then to see them try it again...
Very poor choices tonight.
Very disappointing effort.

That should be on the comedy channel

About as thought out as the 2, 2 point field goal attempts or the half dozen cross field kicks

Mind numbing ?

 

[Telltails]

They are first grade players for godsake. They had every opportunity to win that game just by playing smart footy. That was not a coaching issue tonight that was a team of rudderless dumb arses. Maguire may pay the penalty for that performance, but they were not outcoached or out played by the opposition they beat themselves through stupidity.

 

[PJ_]

Bye Madge. Take a few with you

 

[Tim Sheens]

Agreed, dumbest team in the comp, even after they bombed the short drop out that led to the Aiken try they still went for the short drop out again???

It was tactics, you know, instructions, yet I am seeing the team being blamed and not the coach.

 

[Lauren]

They are first grade players for godsake. They had every opportunity to win that game just by playing smart footy. That was not a coaching issue tonight that was a team of rudderless dumb arses. Maguire may pay the penalty for that performance, but they were not outcoached or out played by the opposition they beat themselves through stupidity.

Only good preparation can increase the mental toughness and resilience that a few of you are criticising the players for having an absence of. This comes from coaching.
The reinforcements of standards and attitude also stems from coaching, as does encouragement and inspiration.
So stop allotting all blame to the players when tactical and mental preparation derives from the coaching staff's ability to utilise correct tactical and mental preparation methods suited to the team - based on their capability.
Their game plans, strategies (including risk management) and goals are also set under the directive of the him too. So rather than deflect how poor we are due to Madge's systems, at least recognise that he too is responsible for promoting team trust and interaction/cooperation, which we seldom see in a positive light. Then maybe you'd realise that the simple duty of not refining and modifying most of these aspects is the crux of our problems.

We aren't in a position to change all our playing group but we also aren't exactly powerless to change these problems either. Only the coach and his staff can control this. So c'mon what's everyone doing as it's clear the man needs a helping hand with everything.
It's only further humiliating the team (and fans) to continue to persist with it.

Edit : I do think the senior players deserve criticism for poor leadership however, as they not only help reinforce Madge's standards etc they are also responsible for bringing the group together and helping with team cohesion.

 

[Harvey]

Just showed some footage of Madge in the room on fox (I had no volume), he looks shot.

Not sure what the commentary over the footage was. Was it Flanagan saying there is no way that you would ever get me near that rabble.

Has any Wests Tigers coach (apart from Cleary) ever had another 1st grade job after finishing with us? Honestly, i would be surprised if any coach with options or an eye on the future would come to us. It is not a stepping stone to a great career, it is the last stop on the way out.