Completely unacceptable: ramifications

@gallagher said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393858) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393854) said:
@gallagher said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393852) said:
@851 said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393848) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393502) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393493) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393492) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393488) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393475) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393471) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393468) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393465) said:
@tiger-tragic said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393455) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393454) said:
@sleeve said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393451) said:
@demps said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393449) said:
@tigertuff said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393448) said:
@sleeve said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393446) said:
Sorry to say it, but Madges selections are on par with the game plan(or lack of), discipline (there is none) structure,(whats that?) agression, (whats that ?) It's a simple fact , we are a poorly coached team of sub standard players.

And players that he brought to the club. All way to slow for the modern game. Tamou wouldnt make any other teams first grade side and Madge has made him captain. Now he want Tpj - wow. We need hard arse defenders not big slow edge backrowers who turn up for 5 games a year. Our recruitment has been poor big time.

We won't get TPj

Too many fans complaining.
He will also be going to a better club.

Wait and see.

If i was TPj and had not yet signed, i would run a mile!
But we need him and more desparately.
WE need speed and power, the Tigers are soft and slow.

I really like Pangai Junior but he’ll make no difference to us whatsoever. At this stage not sure any player could. We’re a mess

And, I share your frustration, but what do you mean by a "mess"?

The players look disinterested, the coaching style isn’t working. We are a better team than we showed last night.

I’m shouted down on here by a few for being too negative towards the coach, but we are now in year 3 and we’re getting progressively worse. I’m not sure how we get out of this predicament but changing nothing is not the answer.

The only thing that keeps off the sack Madge bandwagon is no decent coach is going to come here.

That’s also a problem. But what’s happening now is not sustainable. He’s been given more than enough time to at least improve things.

At this point in time I would be surrounding him with the best possible support.

Hey Madge, can you go over and get the balls. Thanks Tim

Sheens is not the answer

Why ?

Mate, I am the biggest Tim Sheens fan, but he hasn't coached in the NRL in 10 years.

I did just check his results in the Super League and they are better than I expected, maybe I could be convinced on Sheens.

Morris with Sheens in his new job would work, Ciraldo also, I think Flanagan is far more in tune with the modern game, and a far better chance at attracting decent talent a s well, something Madge can't do

Signing Flanagan is something a successful club would do. We're more of a community responsible club. We have morals in our cabinet.

You can be successful without selling your soul to the devil.

Well we signed a bloke who stomped on the head of a guy laying in the gutter.

Yeah and I wasn't ok with that either.
 
@tigerwest said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393817) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393814) said:
@tigerwest said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393800) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393782) said:
@tigervinnie said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393774) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393764) said:
@tigervinnie said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393759) said:
****Huge disclaimer** first:** In no way am I making excuses for last night, that was possibly the worst I have seen not only ourselves play but any team for as long as I can remember. Embarrassed to be a tigers fan is an understatement.


however, is it time the NRL has to seriously consider the make up of this competition along with he product that is currently on display?

Nobody wants to watch games like this...over in 10mins. We are seeing score score lines grow bigger and bigger each week, the divide between top 4-6 and everyone else is alarming and quite frankly a terrible look on the game. Im a die hard footy fan but the only games even close to being enjoyable over the last few years are bottom teams playing each other and this is only because the score lines are SOMETIMES closer (however quality of each team is usually terrible). We are only half way through the comp and we can probably all guess who the grand finalists will be.

Does the NRL have to accept the rule changes, crackdowns, bias refereeing is simply making this game unwatchable. Does the salary cap need a revision? the unbalance in quality is simply insane. Do they possibly need to be giving leg ups to teams who finish out of the 8 the year prior to hopefully rotate success throughout the competition?

Or is it a case of the bottom teams just need to 'adapt better'? We hear that a lot but it's always the powerful big clubs that seem to be able to 'adapt' to anything, so why is it the others can't?

Surely the NRL has to make changes and somehow prop up the struggling clubs...I understand how bias that is but the game is simply terrible at the moment.

Why should the top teams get blamed for getting better and better ......

Why don't we improve or die ......

Think of us as a business (which we are ) why do we deserve help when we continually make the same mistakes year after year after year .....NRL should give us time frame ...and if we can't make the 8 ...kick us out or relocate us


yes we are a business but so are the NRL. Kicking teams out, relocating or having half of their sub franchises perform extremely poorly is a bad reflection of their product as a whole. This is not about punishing better performing clubs or an excuse for clubs like ours - this is the NRL looking at their business as a entertainment product and the current poor status it is in.

So what ...we should wait until the NRL fixes us ...again

No thanks ...just kick us out .....have some pride ......

There would be quite a few teams to go before we get shown the door?

We have the worst record of any side in the nRL since 2000 ......stop making excuses for this club ...everyone stop making excuses for this club ......

Then stop being a drama queen and row the boat with the rest of us.

Would you rather be us or the Bronc’s?

Broncos made the 8 in the last 10 years will be better off than us in 2022 ..you watch

If by 2025 we haven't made the finals we shouldn't be in the NRL comp ......and you are just misleading yourself if you think we should ......
 
@spud_murphy said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393856) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393851) said:
@spud_murphy said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393850) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393782) said:
@tigervinnie said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393774) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393764) said:
@tigervinnie said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393759) said:
****Huge disclaimer** first:** In no way am I making excuses for last night, that was possibly the worst I have seen not only ourselves play but any team for as long as I can remember. Embarrassed to be a tigers fan is an understatement.


however, is it time the NRL has to seriously consider the make up of this competition along with he product that is currently on display?

Nobody wants to watch games like this...over in 10mins. We are seeing score score lines grow bigger and bigger each week, the divide between top 4-6 and everyone else is alarming and quite frankly a terrible look on the game. Im a die hard footy fan but the only games even close to being enjoyable over the last few years are bottom teams playing each other and this is only because the score lines are SOMETIMES closer (however quality of each team is usually terrible). We are only half way through the comp and we can probably all guess who the grand finalists will be.

Does the NRL have to accept the rule changes, crackdowns, bias refereeing is simply making this game unwatchable. Does the salary cap need a revision? the unbalance in quality is simply insane. Do they possibly need to be giving leg ups to teams who finish out of the 8 the year prior to hopefully rotate success throughout the competition?

Or is it a case of the bottom teams just need to 'adapt better'? We hear that a lot but it's always the powerful big clubs that seem to be able to 'adapt' to anything, so why is it the others can't?

Surely the NRL has to make changes and somehow prop up the struggling clubs...I understand how bias that is but the game is simply terrible at the moment.

Why should the top teams get blamed for getting better and better ......

Why don't we improve or die ......

Think of us as a business (which we are ) why do we deserve help when we continually make the same mistakes year after year after year .....NRL should give us time frame ...and if we can't make the 8 ...kick us out or relocate us


yes we are a business but so are the NRL. Kicking teams out, relocating or having half of their sub franchises perform extremely poorly is a bad reflection of their product as a whole. This is not about punishing better performing clubs or an excuse for clubs like ours - this is the NRL looking at their business as a entertainment product and the current poor status it is in.

So what ...we should wait until the NRL fixes us ...again

No thanks ...just kick us out .....have some pride ......

Unless something drastic changes in the next year or so, I’m fairly certain that us, the Dogs & Cronulla won’t be around for much longer - these clubs are surplus to the needs of the NRL’s future plans to cull some of the Sydney teams. The comp will have a powerful West (Penrith & Parramatta), East (Roosters & Souths), North (Manly & Newcastle) and South (St George & Canberra) representing NSW.

Another QLD team will be added to make it 4 rep teams in that state. However I don’t think the NRL expected Brisbane to be going as bad as it has been, no doubt it has put a spanner in their plans for a second Brisbane team, but I’m sure they will work furiously to help them out in some way. A second team in Melbourne is definitely on the cards.

This will leave it as a 14 team comp with room for expansion into other states if they so desire to make it a truly national (and hopefully more competitive) comp.

I honestly can’t wait for it to happen because it really just pains me to see the team/club that I have supported for so long spiral down into the non-entity of a club that it is now. At least if they’re not around anymore I won’t have to even think about them or be forced witness pea-hearted efforts, such as last night ever again. I won’t be supporting any team!

I can't wish for the demise of something that I love.

When you see something you love in such pain and there is nothing that can be done for it, then you want to put it out of its misery.

Believe me I get that, but I'm an eternal optimist.
 
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393861) said:
@gallagher said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393858) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393854) said:
@gallagher said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393852) said:
@851 said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393848) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393502) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393493) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393492) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393488) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393475) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393471) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393468) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393465) said:
@tiger-tragic said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393455) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393454) said:
@sleeve said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393451) said:
@demps said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393449) said:
@tigertuff said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393448) said:
@sleeve said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393446) said:
Sorry to say it, but Madges selections are on par with the game plan(or lack of), discipline (there is none) structure,(whats that?) agression, (whats that ?) It's a simple fact , we are a poorly coached team of sub standard players.

And players that he brought to the club. All way to slow for the modern game. Tamou wouldnt make any other teams first grade side and Madge has made him captain. Now he want Tpj - wow. We need hard arse defenders not big slow edge backrowers who turn up for 5 games a year. Our recruitment has been poor big time.

We won't get TPj

Too many fans complaining.
He will also be going to a better club.

Wait and see.

If i was TPj and had not yet signed, i would run a mile!
But we need him and more desparately.
WE need speed and power, the Tigers are soft and slow.

I really like Pangai Junior but he’ll make no difference to us whatsoever. At this stage not sure any player could. We’re a mess

And, I share your frustration, but what do you mean by a "mess"?

The players look disinterested, the coaching style isn’t working. We are a better team than we showed last night.

I’m shouted down on here by a few for being too negative towards the coach, but we are now in year 3 and we’re getting progressively worse. I’m not sure how we get out of this predicament but changing nothing is not the answer.

The only thing that keeps off the sack Madge bandwagon is no decent coach is going to come here.

That’s also a problem. But what’s happening now is not sustainable. He’s been given more than enough time to at least improve things.

At this point in time I would be surrounding him with the best possible support.

Hey Madge, can you go over and get the balls. Thanks Tim

Sheens is not the answer

Why ?

Mate, I am the biggest Tim Sheens fan, but he hasn't coached in the NRL in 10 years.

I did just check his results in the Super League and they are better than I expected, maybe I could be convinced on Sheens.

Morris with Sheens in his new job would work, Ciraldo also, I think Flanagan is far more in tune with the modern game, and a far better chance at attracting decent talent a s well, something Madge can't do

Signing Flanagan is something a successful club would do. We're more of a community responsible club. We have morals in our cabinet.

You can be successful without selling your soul to the devil.

Well we signed a bloke who stomped on the head of a guy laying in the gutter.

Yeah and I wasn't ok with that either.

Nah, wasnt saying you were. But the club signed Packer so should be ok with signing Flanagan. But won't. Fear of backlash will hold them back
 
@gallagher said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393864) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393861) said:
@gallagher said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393858) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393854) said:
@gallagher said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393852) said:
@851 said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393848) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393502) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393493) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393492) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393488) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393475) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393471) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393468) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393465) said:
@tiger-tragic said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393455) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393454) said:
@sleeve said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393451) said:
@demps said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393449) said:
@tigertuff said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393448) said:
@sleeve said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393446) said:
Sorry to say it, but Madges selections are on par with the game plan(or lack of), discipline (there is none) structure,(whats that?) agression, (whats that ?) It's a simple fact , we are a poorly coached team of sub standard players.

And players that he brought to the club. All way to slow for the modern game. Tamou wouldnt make any other teams first grade side and Madge has made him captain. Now he want Tpj - wow. We need hard arse defenders not big slow edge backrowers who turn up for 5 games a year. Our recruitment has been poor big time.

We won't get TPj

Too many fans complaining.
He will also be going to a better club.

Wait and see.

If i was TPj and had not yet signed, i would run a mile!
But we need him and more desparately.
WE need speed and power, the Tigers are soft and slow.

I really like Pangai Junior but he’ll make no difference to us whatsoever. At this stage not sure any player could. We’re a mess

And, I share your frustration, but what do you mean by a "mess"?

The players look disinterested, the coaching style isn’t working. We are a better team than we showed last night.

I’m shouted down on here by a few for being too negative towards the coach, but we are now in year 3 and we’re getting progressively worse. I’m not sure how we get out of this predicament but changing nothing is not the answer.

The only thing that keeps off the sack Madge bandwagon is no decent coach is going to come here.

That’s also a problem. But what’s happening now is not sustainable. He’s been given more than enough time to at least improve things.

At this point in time I would be surrounding him with the best possible support.

Hey Madge, can you go over and get the balls. Thanks Tim

Sheens is not the answer

Why ?

Mate, I am the biggest Tim Sheens fan, but he hasn't coached in the NRL in 10 years.

I did just check his results in the Super League and they are better than I expected, maybe I could be convinced on Sheens.

Morris with Sheens in his new job would work, Ciraldo also, I think Flanagan is far more in tune with the modern game, and a far better chance at attracting decent talent a s well, something Madge can't do

Signing Flanagan is something a successful club would do. We're more of a community responsible club. We have morals in our cabinet.

You can be successful without selling your soul to the devil.

Well we signed a bloke who stomped on the head of a guy laying in the gutter.

Yeah and I wasn't ok with that either.

Nah, wasnt saying you were. But the club signed Packer so should be ok with signing Flanagan. But won't. Fear of backlash will hold them back

2 wrongs don't make a right.
 
@tigervinnie said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393836) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393816) said:
@tigervinnie said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393810) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393789) said:
@tigervinnie said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393784) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393782) said:
@tigervinnie said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393774) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393764) said:
@tigervinnie said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393759) said:
****Huge disclaimer** first:** In no way am I making excuses for last night, that was possibly the worst I have seen not only ourselves play but any team for as long as I can remember. Embarrassed to be a tigers fan is an understatement.


however, is it time the NRL has to seriously consider the make up of this competition along with he product that is currently on display?

Nobody wants to watch games like this...over in 10mins. We are seeing score score lines grow bigger and bigger each week, the divide between top 4-6 and everyone else is alarming and quite frankly a terrible look on the game. Im a die hard footy fan but the only games even close to being enjoyable over the last few years are bottom teams playing each other and this is only because the score lines are SOMETIMES closer (however quality of each team is usually terrible). We are only half way through the comp and we can probably all guess who the grand finalists will be.

Does the NRL have to accept the rule changes, crackdowns, bias refereeing is simply making this game unwatchable. Does the salary cap need a revision? the unbalance in quality is simply insane. Do they possibly need to be giving leg ups to teams who finish out of the 8 the year prior to hopefully rotate success throughout the competition?

Or is it a case of the bottom teams just need to 'adapt better'? We hear that a lot but it's always the powerful big clubs that seem to be able to 'adapt' to anything, so why is it the others can't?

Surely the NRL has to make changes and somehow prop up the struggling clubs...I understand how bias that is but the game is simply terrible at the moment.

Why should the top teams get blamed for getting better and better ......

Why don't we improve or die ......

Think of us as a business (which we are ) why do we deserve help when we continually make the same mistakes year after year after year .....NRL should give us time frame ...and if we can't make the 8 ...kick us out or relocate us


yes we are a business but so are the NRL. Kicking teams out, relocating or having half of their sub franchises perform extremely poorly is a bad reflection of their product as a whole. This is not about punishing better performing clubs or an excuse for clubs like ours - this is the NRL looking at their business as a entertainment product and the current poor status it is in.

So what ...we should wait until the NRL fixes us ...again

No thanks ...just kick us out .....have some pride ......


Again, you're referring to the Tigers in particular. Kicking us out doesn't fix the problem because there is maybe about 4-5 teams who this applies to. Im talking about the entire state of the game where its top 4 vs the rest.

Kick them all out ...do us all a favour ...we made bad choices as fans ...now we play the price


Guess were going around in circles so never mind.

I look forward to another Penrith v Melbourne grand final for many years to come.

If they are the 2 best sides ...they deserve it

How is it different with Federer , Nadal and Djokovic ...they have owned two generations of tennis players ...maybe the ITF should have made them play right handed instead of left ..or left handed instead of right ...or given their opposition 2 games start .......or made them wear blindfolds .....

Your obviously from the "give the 14th place runner a ribbon " mindset ..thats fine Vinnie


Again for the third time. Has nothing to do with a team deserving it, Storm's system has been world class from day 1.

My point is: the same teams winning every game year in year out makes for a poor quality product and if the NRL want to grow the competition and bring in more fans - then 40-0 games two to three times a round will not do this.

Do you honestly enjoy the state the game is in right now?

Its OUR fault ...don't pass the buck ...don't blame the NRL

If the game sucks blame the WT's ....win games ....that changes

NRL doesn't choose the players we sign , the 47 grounds we use ...the coaching staff ...recruitment etc WE DO
 
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393866) said:
@gallagher said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393864) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393861) said:
@gallagher said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393858) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393854) said:
@gallagher said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393852) said:
@851 said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393848) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393502) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393493) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393492) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393488) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393475) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393471) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393468) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393465) said:
@tiger-tragic said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393455) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393454) said:
@sleeve said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393451) said:
@demps said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393449) said:
@tigertuff said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393448) said:
@sleeve said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393446) said:
Sorry to say it, but Madges selections are on par with the game plan(or lack of), discipline (there is none) structure,(whats that?) agression, (whats that ?) It's a simple fact , we are a poorly coached team of sub standard players.

And players that he brought to the club. All way to slow for the modern game. Tamou wouldnt make any other teams first grade side and Madge has made him captain. Now he want Tpj - wow. We need hard arse defenders not big slow edge backrowers who turn up for 5 games a year. Our recruitment has been poor big time.

We won't get TPj

Too many fans complaining.
He will also be going to a better club.

Wait and see.

If i was TPj and had not yet signed, i would run a mile!
But we need him and more desparately.
WE need speed and power, the Tigers are soft and slow.

I really like Pangai Junior but he’ll make no difference to us whatsoever. At this stage not sure any player could. We’re a mess

And, I share your frustration, but what do you mean by a "mess"?

The players look disinterested, the coaching style isn’t working. We are a better team than we showed last night.

I’m shouted down on here by a few for being too negative towards the coach, but we are now in year 3 and we’re getting progressively worse. I’m not sure how we get out of this predicament but changing nothing is not the answer.

The only thing that keeps off the sack Madge bandwagon is no decent coach is going to come here.

That’s also a problem. But what’s happening now is not sustainable. He’s been given more than enough time to at least improve things.

At this point in time I would be surrounding him with the best possible support.

Hey Madge, can you go over and get the balls. Thanks Tim

Sheens is not the answer

Why ?

Mate, I am the biggest Tim Sheens fan, but he hasn't coached in the NRL in 10 years.

I did just check his results in the Super League and they are better than I expected, maybe I could be convinced on Sheens.

Morris with Sheens in his new job would work, Ciraldo also, I think Flanagan is far more in tune with the modern game, and a far better chance at attracting decent talent a s well, something Madge can't do

Signing Flanagan is something a successful club would do. We're more of a community responsible club. We have morals in our cabinet.

You can be successful without selling your soul to the devil.

Well we signed a bloke who stomped on the head of a guy laying in the gutter.

Yeah and I wasn't ok with that either.

Nah, wasnt saying you were. But the club signed Packer so should be ok with signing Flanagan. But won't. Fear of backlash will hold them back

2 wrongs don't make a right.

I don't think signing Flanagan would be a wrong. As long as his sentence is served.
 
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393866) said:
@gallagher said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393864) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393861) said:
@gallagher said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393858) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393854) said:
@gallagher said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393852) said:
@851 said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393848) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393502) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393493) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393492) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393488) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393475) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393471) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393468) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393465) said:
@tiger-tragic said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393455) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393454) said:
@sleeve said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393451) said:
@demps said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393449) said:
@tigertuff said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393448) said:
@sleeve said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393446) said:
Sorry to say it, but Madges selections are on par with the game plan(or lack of), discipline (there is none) structure,(whats that?) agression, (whats that ?) It's a simple fact , we are a poorly coached team of sub standard players.

And players that he brought to the club. All way to slow for the modern game. Tamou wouldnt make any other teams first grade side and Madge has made him captain. Now he want Tpj - wow. We need hard arse defenders not big slow edge backrowers who turn up for 5 games a year. Our recruitment has been poor big time.

We won't get TPj

Too many fans complaining.
He will also be going to a better club.

Wait and see.

If i was TPj and had not yet signed, i would run a mile!
But we need him and more desparately.
WE need speed and power, the Tigers are soft and slow.

I really like Pangai Junior but he’ll make no difference to us whatsoever. At this stage not sure any player could. We’re a mess

And, I share your frustration, but what do you mean by a "mess"?

The players look disinterested, the coaching style isn’t working. We are a better team than we showed last night.

I’m shouted down on here by a few for being too negative towards the coach, but we are now in year 3 and we’re getting progressively worse. I’m not sure how we get out of this predicament but changing nothing is not the answer.

The only thing that keeps off the sack Madge bandwagon is no decent coach is going to come here.

That’s also a problem. But what’s happening now is not sustainable. He’s been given more than enough time to at least improve things.

At this point in time I would be surrounding him with the best possible support.

Hey Madge, can you go over and get the balls. Thanks Tim

Sheens is not the answer

Why ?

Mate, I am the biggest Tim Sheens fan, but he hasn't coached in the NRL in 10 years.

I did just check his results in the Super League and they are better than I expected, maybe I could be convinced on Sheens.

Morris with Sheens in his new job would work, Ciraldo also, I think Flanagan is far more in tune with the modern game, and a far better chance at attracting decent talent a s well, something Madge can't do

Signing Flanagan is something a successful club would do. We're more of a community responsible club. We have morals in our cabinet.

You can be successful without selling your soul to the devil.

Well we signed a bloke who stomped on the head of a guy laying in the gutter.

Yeah and I wasn't ok with that either.

Nah, wasnt saying you were. But the club signed Packer so should be ok with signing Flanagan. But won't. Fear of backlash will hold them back

2 wrongs don't make a right.

At the end of the day, you put the right person in the right job....

It's not up to you or me but if Flanno can do a better job, he should be awarded that chance and we as, fans, deserve the right person to get us moving forward.
 
@happy_tiger said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393867) said:
@tigervinnie said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393836) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393816) said:
@tigervinnie said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393810) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393789) said:
@tigervinnie said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393784) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393782) said:
@tigervinnie said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393774) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393764) said:
@tigervinnie said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393759) said:
****Huge disclaimer** first:** In no way am I making excuses for last night, that was possibly the worst I have seen not only ourselves play but any team for as long as I can remember. Embarrassed to be a tigers fan is an understatement.


however, is it time the NRL has to seriously consider the make up of this competition along with he product that is currently on display?

Nobody wants to watch games like this...over in 10mins. We are seeing score score lines grow bigger and bigger each week, the divide between top 4-6 and everyone else is alarming and quite frankly a terrible look on the game. Im a die hard footy fan but the only games even close to being enjoyable over the last few years are bottom teams playing each other and this is only because the score lines are SOMETIMES closer (however quality of each team is usually terrible). We are only half way through the comp and we can probably all guess who the grand finalists will be.

Does the NRL have to accept the rule changes, crackdowns, bias refereeing is simply making this game unwatchable. Does the salary cap need a revision? the unbalance in quality is simply insane. Do they possibly need to be giving leg ups to teams who finish out of the 8 the year prior to hopefully rotate success throughout the competition?

Or is it a case of the bottom teams just need to 'adapt better'? We hear that a lot but it's always the powerful big clubs that seem to be able to 'adapt' to anything, so why is it the others can't?

Surely the NRL has to make changes and somehow prop up the struggling clubs...I understand how bias that is but the game is simply terrible at the moment.

Why should the top teams get blamed for getting better and better ......

Why don't we improve or die ......

Think of us as a business (which we are ) why do we deserve help when we continually make the same mistakes year after year after year .....NRL should give us time frame ...and if we can't make the 8 ...kick us out or relocate us


yes we are a business but so are the NRL. Kicking teams out, relocating or having half of their sub franchises perform extremely poorly is a bad reflection of their product as a whole. This is not about punishing better performing clubs or an excuse for clubs like ours - this is the NRL looking at their business as a entertainment product and the current poor status it is in.

So what ...we should wait until the NRL fixes us ...again

No thanks ...just kick us out .....have some pride ......


Again, you're referring to the Tigers in particular. Kicking us out doesn't fix the problem because there is maybe about 4-5 teams who this applies to. Im talking about the entire state of the game where its top 4 vs the rest.

Kick them all out ...do us all a favour ...we made bad choices as fans ...now we play the price


Guess were going around in circles so never mind.

I look forward to another Penrith v Melbourne grand final for many years to come.

If they are the 2 best sides ...they deserve it

How is it different with Federer , Nadal and Djokovic ...they have owned two generations of tennis players ...maybe the ITF should have made them play right handed instead of left ..or left handed instead of right ...or given their opposition 2 games start .......or made them wear blindfolds .....

Your obviously from the "give the 14th place runner a ribbon " mindset ..thats fine Vinnie


Again for the third time. Has nothing to do with a team deserving it, Storm's system has been world class from day 1.

My point is: the same teams winning every game year in year out makes for a poor quality product and if the NRL want to grow the competition and bring in more fans - then 40-0 games two to three times a round will not do this.

Do you honestly enjoy the state the game is in right now?

Its OUR fault ...don't pass the buck ...don't blame the NRL

If the game sucks blame the WT's ....win games ....that changes

NRL doesn't choose the players we sign , the 47 grounds we use ...the coaching staff ...recruitment etc WE DO


Not talking specifically about the Tigers. Have your way and kick us out and the competition as a whole is still terrible to watch.
 
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393849) said:
@851 said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393848) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393502) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393493) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393492) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393488) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393475) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393471) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393468) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393465) said:
@tiger-tragic said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393455) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393454) said:
@sleeve said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393451) said:
@demps said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393449) said:
@tigertuff said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393448) said:
@sleeve said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393446) said:
Sorry to say it, but Madges selections are on par with the game plan(or lack of), discipline (there is none) structure,(whats that?) agression, (whats that ?) It's a simple fact , we are a poorly coached team of sub standard players.

And players that he brought to the club. All way to slow for the modern game. Tamou wouldnt make any other teams first grade side and Madge has made him captain. Now he want Tpj - wow. We need hard arse defenders not big slow edge backrowers who turn up for 5 games a year. Our recruitment has been poor big time.

We won't get TPj

Too many fans complaining.
He will also be going to a better club.

Wait and see.

If i was TPj and had not yet signed, i would run a mile!
But we need him and more desparately.
WE need speed and power, the Tigers are soft and slow.

I really like Pangai Junior but he’ll make no difference to us whatsoever. At this stage not sure any player could. We’re a mess

And, I share your frustration, but what do you mean by a "mess"?

The players look disinterested, the coaching style isn’t working. We are a better team than we showed last night.

I’m shouted down on here by a few for being too negative towards the coach, but we are now in year 3 and we’re getting progressively worse. I’m not sure how we get out of this predicament but changing nothing is not the answer.

The only thing that keeps off the sack Madge bandwagon is no decent coach is going to come here.

That’s also a problem. But what’s happening now is not sustainable. He’s been given more than enough time to at least improve things.

At this point in time I would be surrounding him with the best possible support.

Hey Madge, can you go over and get the balls. Thanks Tim

Sheens is not the answer

Why ?

Mate, I am the biggest Tim Sheens fan, but he hasn't coached in the NRL in 10 years.

I did just check his results in the Super League and they are better than I expected, maybe I could be convinced on Sheens.

Morris with Sheens in his new job would work, Ciraldo also, I think Flanagan is far more in tune with the modern game, and a far better chance at attracting decent talent a s well, something Madge can't do

I can't cop having Flanagan here, I don't think he should be involved in the sport at all, let alone coaching the club I support.

I don't like him, but I think he would improve us, and I can live with that, the nice guy approach has never worked for us
 
@gallagher said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393868) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393866) said:
@gallagher said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393864) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393861) said:
@gallagher said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393858) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393854) said:
@gallagher said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393852) said:
@851 said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393848) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393502) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393493) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393492) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393488) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393475) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393471) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393468) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393465) said:
@tiger-tragic said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393455) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393454) said:
@sleeve said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393451) said:
@demps said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393449) said:
@tigertuff said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393448) said:
@sleeve said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393446) said:
Sorry to say it, but Madges selections are on par with the game plan(or lack of), discipline (there is none) structure,(whats that?) agression, (whats that ?) It's a simple fact , we are a poorly coached team of sub standard players.

And players that he brought to the club. All way to slow for the modern game. Tamou wouldnt make any other teams first grade side and Madge has made him captain. Now he want Tpj - wow. We need hard arse defenders not big slow edge backrowers who turn up for 5 games a year. Our recruitment has been poor big time.

We won't get TPj

Too many fans complaining.
He will also be going to a better club.

Wait and see.

If i was TPj and had not yet signed, i would run a mile!
But we need him and more desparately.
WE need speed and power, the Tigers are soft and slow.

I really like Pangai Junior but he’ll make no difference to us whatsoever. At this stage not sure any player could. We’re a mess

And, I share your frustration, but what do you mean by a "mess"?

The players look disinterested, the coaching style isn’t working. We are a better team than we showed last night.

I’m shouted down on here by a few for being too negative towards the coach, but we are now in year 3 and we’re getting progressively worse. I’m not sure how we get out of this predicament but changing nothing is not the answer.

The only thing that keeps off the sack Madge bandwagon is no decent coach is going to come here.

That’s also a problem. But what’s happening now is not sustainable. He’s been given more than enough time to at least improve things.

At this point in time I would be surrounding him with the best possible support.

Hey Madge, can you go over and get the balls. Thanks Tim

Sheens is not the answer

Why ?

Mate, I am the biggest Tim Sheens fan, but he hasn't coached in the NRL in 10 years.

I did just check his results in the Super League and they are better than I expected, maybe I could be convinced on Sheens.

Morris with Sheens in his new job would work, Ciraldo also, I think Flanagan is far more in tune with the modern game, and a far better chance at attracting decent talent a s well, something Madge can't do

Signing Flanagan is something a successful club would do. We're more of a community responsible club. We have morals in our cabinet.

You can be successful without selling your soul to the devil.

Well we signed a bloke who stomped on the head of a guy laying in the gutter.

Yeah and I wasn't ok with that either.

Nah, wasnt saying you were. But the club signed Packer so should be ok with signing Flanagan. But won't. Fear of backlash will hold them back

2 wrongs don't make a right.

I don't think signing Flanagan would be a wrong. As long as his sentence is served.

I do
 
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393878) said:
@gallagher said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393868) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393866) said:
@gallagher said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393864) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393861) said:
@gallagher said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393858) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393854) said:
@gallagher said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393852) said:
@851 said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393848) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393502) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393493) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393492) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393488) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393475) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393471) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393468) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393465) said:
@tiger-tragic said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393455) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393454) said:
@sleeve said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393451) said:
@demps said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393449) said:
@tigertuff said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393448) said:
@sleeve said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393446) said:
Sorry to say it, but Madges selections are on par with the game plan(or lack of), discipline (there is none) structure,(whats that?) agression, (whats that ?) It's a simple fact , we are a poorly coached team of sub standard players.

And players that he brought to the club. All way to slow for the modern game. Tamou wouldnt make any other teams first grade side and Madge has made him captain. Now he want Tpj - wow. We need hard arse defenders not big slow edge backrowers who turn up for 5 games a year. Our recruitment has been poor big time.

We won't get TPj

Too many fans complaining.
He will also be going to a better club.

Wait and see.

If i was TPj and had not yet signed, i would run a mile!
But we need him and more desparately.
WE need speed and power, the Tigers are soft and slow.

I really like Pangai Junior but he’ll make no difference to us whatsoever. At this stage not sure any player could. We’re a mess

And, I share your frustration, but what do you mean by a "mess"?

The players look disinterested, the coaching style isn’t working. We are a better team than we showed last night.

I’m shouted down on here by a few for being too negative towards the coach, but we are now in year 3 and we’re getting progressively worse. I’m not sure how we get out of this predicament but changing nothing is not the answer.

The only thing that keeps off the sack Madge bandwagon is no decent coach is going to come here.

That’s also a problem. But what’s happening now is not sustainable. He’s been given more than enough time to at least improve things.

At this point in time I would be surrounding him with the best possible support.

Hey Madge, can you go over and get the balls. Thanks Tim

Sheens is not the answer

Why ?

Mate, I am the biggest Tim Sheens fan, but he hasn't coached in the NRL in 10 years.

I did just check his results in the Super League and they are better than I expected, maybe I could be convinced on Sheens.

Morris with Sheens in his new job would work, Ciraldo also, I think Flanagan is far more in tune with the modern game, and a far better chance at attracting decent talent a s well, something Madge can't do

Signing Flanagan is something a successful club would do. We're more of a community responsible club. We have morals in our cabinet.

You can be successful without selling your soul to the devil.

Well we signed a bloke who stomped on the head of a guy laying in the gutter.

Yeah and I wasn't ok with that either.

Nah, wasnt saying you were. But the club signed Packer so should be ok with signing Flanagan. But won't. Fear of backlash will hold them back

2 wrongs don't make a right.

I don't think signing Flanagan would be a wrong. As long as his sentence is served.

I do

Those two words scare me?
 
@851 said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393848) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393502) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393493) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393492) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393488) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393475) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393471) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393468) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393465) said:
@tiger-tragic said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393455) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393454) said:
@sleeve said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393451) said:
@demps said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393449) said:
@tigertuff said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393448) said:
@sleeve said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393446) said:
Sorry to say it, but Madges selections are on par with the game plan(or lack of), discipline (there is none) structure,(whats that?) agression, (whats that ?) It's a simple fact , we are a poorly coached team of sub standard players.

And players that he brought to the club. All way to slow for the modern game. Tamou wouldnt make any other teams first grade side and Madge has made him captain. Now he want Tpj - wow. We need hard arse defenders not big slow edge backrowers who turn up for 5 games a year. Our recruitment has been poor big time.

We won't get TPj

Too many fans complaining.
He will also be going to a better club.

Wait and see.

If i was TPj and had not yet signed, i would run a mile!
But we need him and more desparately.
WE need speed and power, the Tigers are soft and slow.

I really like Pangai Junior but he’ll make no difference to us whatsoever. At this stage not sure any player could. We’re a mess

And, I share your frustration, but what do you mean by a "mess"?

The players look disinterested, the coaching style isn’t working. We are a better team than we showed last night.

I’m shouted down on here by a few for being too negative towards the coach, but we are now in year 3 and we’re getting progressively worse. I’m not sure how we get out of this predicament but changing nothing is not the answer.

The only thing that keeps off the sack Madge bandwagon is no decent coach is going to come here.

That’s also a problem. But what’s happening now is not sustainable. He’s been given more than enough time to at least improve things.

At this point in time I would be surrounding him with the best possible support.

Hey Madge, can you go over and get the balls. Thanks Tim

Sheens is not the answer

Why ?

Mate, I am the biggest Tim Sheens fan, but he hasn't coached in the NRL in 10 years.

I did just check his results in the Super League and they are better than I expected, maybe I could be convinced on Sheens.

Morris with Sheens in his new job would work, Ciraldo also, I think Flanagan is far more in tune with the modern game, and a far better chance at attracting decent talent as well, something Madge can't do

I would take Shane and his son, so much better than the current mob.

Flanagan and Doueihi in the halves sounds good to me. Laurie I’m not sold on, he can fight with Hastings for the number 1.
 
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393878) said:
@gallagher said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393868) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393866) said:
@gallagher said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393864) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393861) said:
@gallagher said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393858) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393854) said:
@gallagher said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393852) said:
@851 said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393848) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393502) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393493) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393492) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393488) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393475) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393471) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393468) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393465) said:
@tiger-tragic said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393455) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393454) said:
@sleeve said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393451) said:
@demps said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393449) said:
@tigertuff said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393448) said:
@sleeve said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393446) said:
Sorry to say it, but Madges selections are on par with the game plan(or lack of), discipline (there is none) structure,(whats that?) agression, (whats that ?) It's a simple fact , we are a poorly coached team of sub standard players.

And players that he brought to the club. All way to slow for the modern game. Tamou wouldnt make any other teams first grade side and Madge has made him captain. Now he want Tpj - wow. We need hard arse defenders not big slow edge backrowers who turn up for 5 games a year. Our recruitment has been poor big time.

We won't get TPj

Too many fans complaining.
He will also be going to a better club.

Wait and see.

If i was TPj and had not yet signed, i would run a mile!
But we need him and more desparately.
WE need speed and power, the Tigers are soft and slow.

I really like Pangai Junior but he’ll make no difference to us whatsoever. At this stage not sure any player could. We’re a mess

And, I share your frustration, but what do you mean by a "mess"?

The players look disinterested, the coaching style isn’t working. We are a better team than we showed last night.

I’m shouted down on here by a few for being too negative towards the coach, but we are now in year 3 and we’re getting progressively worse. I’m not sure how we get out of this predicament but changing nothing is not the answer.

The only thing that keeps off the sack Madge bandwagon is no decent coach is going to come here.

That’s also a problem. But what’s happening now is not sustainable. He’s been given more than enough time to at least improve things.

At this point in time I would be surrounding him with the best possible support.

Hey Madge, can you go over and get the balls. Thanks Tim

Sheens is not the answer

Why ?

Mate, I am the biggest Tim Sheens fan, but he hasn't coached in the NRL in 10 years.

I did just check his results in the Super League and they are better than I expected, maybe I could be convinced on Sheens.

Morris with Sheens in his new job would work, Ciraldo also, I think Flanagan is far more in tune with the modern game, and a far better chance at attracting decent talent a s well, something Madge can't do

Signing Flanagan is something a successful club would do. We're more of a community responsible club. We have morals in our cabinet.

You can be successful without selling your soul to the devil.

Well we signed a bloke who stomped on the head of a guy laying in the gutter.

Yeah and I wasn't ok with that either.

Nah, wasnt saying you were. But the club signed Packer so should be ok with signing Flanagan. But won't. Fear of backlash will hold them back

2 wrongs don't make a right.

I don't think signing Flanagan would be a wrong. As long as his sentence is served.

I do

OK you made your point first time. We have to stop shouting down each other. It was different poster second time around.

You can shout me down too if you want. I dont necessarily want Flanagan but if he wants to put his hat in the ring if/when Maguire falls on his sword, I thin WT should at least talk to him and see. He has served his NRL sentence, no point in us being morally superior. Whats the old saying 'good guys come last? well we are doing that now, we need to do somethign differenr.
 
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@gallagher said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393868) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393866) said:
@gallagher said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393864) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393861) said:
@gallagher said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393858) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393854) said:
@gallagher said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393852) said:
@851 said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393848) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393502) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393493) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393492) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393488) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393475) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393471) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393468) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393465) said:
@tiger-tragic said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393455) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393454) said:
@sleeve said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393451) said:
@demps said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393449) said:
@tigertuff said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393448) said:
@sleeve said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393446) said:
Sorry to say it, but Madges selections are on par with the game plan(or lack of), discipline (there is none) structure,(whats that?) agression, (whats that ?) It's a simple fact , we are a poorly coached team of sub standard players.

And players that he brought to the club. All way to slow for the modern game. Tamou wouldnt make any other teams first grade side and Madge has made him captain. Now he want Tpj - wow. We need hard arse defenders not big slow edge backrowers who turn up for 5 games a year. Our recruitment has been poor big time.

We won't get TPj

Too many fans complaining.
He will also be going to a better club.

Wait and see.

If i was TPj and had not yet signed, i would run a mile!
But we need him and more desparately.
WE need speed and power, the Tigers are soft and slow.

I really like Pangai Junior but he’ll make no difference to us whatsoever. At this stage not sure any player could. We’re a mess

And, I share your frustration, but what do you mean by a "mess"?

The players look disinterested, the coaching style isn’t working. We are a better team than we showed last night.

I’m shouted down on here by a few for being too negative towards the coach, but we are now in year 3 and we’re getting progressively worse. I’m not sure how we get out of this predicament but changing nothing is not the answer.

The only thing that keeps off the sack Madge bandwagon is no decent coach is going to come here.

That’s also a problem. But what’s happening now is not sustainable. He’s been given more than enough time to at least improve things.

At this point in time I would be surrounding him with the best possible support.

Hey Madge, can you go over and get the balls. Thanks Tim

Sheens is not the answer

Why ?

Mate, I am the biggest Tim Sheens fan, but he hasn't coached in the NRL in 10 years.

I did just check his results in the Super League and they are better than I expected, maybe I could be convinced on Sheens.

Morris with Sheens in his new job would work, Ciraldo also, I think Flanagan is far more in tune with the modern game, and a far better chance at attracting decent talent a s well, something Madge can't do

Signing Flanagan is something a successful club would do. We're more of a community responsible club. We have morals in our cabinet.

You can be successful without selling your soul to the devil.

Well we signed a bloke who stomped on the head of a guy laying in the gutter.

Yeah and I wasn't ok with that either.

Nah, wasnt saying you were. But the club signed Packer so should be ok with signing Flanagan. But won't. Fear of backlash will hold them back

2 wrongs don't make a right.

I don't think signing Flanagan would be a wrong. As long as his sentence is served.

I do

OK you made your point first time. We have to stop shouting down each other. It was different poster second time around.

You can shout me down too if you want. I dont necessarily want Flanagan but if he wants to put his hat in the ring if/when Maguire falls on his sword, I thin WT should at least talk to him and see. He has served his NRL sentence, no point in us being morally superior. Whats the old saying 'good guys come last? well we are doing that now, we need to do somethign differenr.

Shouting down? I know @gallagher reasonably well and don't think he would consider my response to him as shouting him down.

I am allowed to have the opinion that I would prefer not to have someone who has been suspended twice for cheating involved in the club I support. You accuse me of shouting someone down and then accuse me of being morally superior because you disagree with my opinion.
 
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393911) said:
@2005magic said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393904) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393878) said:
@gallagher said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393868) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393866) said:
@gallagher said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393864) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393861) said:
@gallagher said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393858) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393854) said:
@gallagher said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393852) said:
@851 said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393848) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393502) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393493) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393492) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393488) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393475) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393471) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393468) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393465) said:
@tiger-tragic said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393455) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393454) said:
@sleeve said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393451) said:
@demps said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393449) said:
@tigertuff said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393448) said:
@sleeve said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393446) said:
Sorry to say it, but Madges selections are on par with the game plan(or lack of), discipline (there is none) structure,(whats that?) agression, (whats that ?) It's a simple fact , we are a poorly coached team of sub standard players.

And players that he brought to the club. All way to slow for the modern game. Tamou wouldnt make any other teams first grade side and Madge has made him captain. Now he want Tpj - wow. We need hard arse defenders not big slow edge backrowers who turn up for 5 games a year. Our recruitment has been poor big time.

We won't get TPj

Too many fans complaining.
He will also be going to a better club.

Wait and see.

If i was TPj and had not yet signed, i would run a mile!
But we need him and more desparately.
WE need speed and power, the Tigers are soft and slow.

I really like Pangai Junior but he’ll make no difference to us whatsoever. At this stage not sure any player could. We’re a mess

And, I share your frustration, but what do you mean by a "mess"?

The players look disinterested, the coaching style isn’t working. We are a better team than we showed last night.

I’m shouted down on here by a few for being too negative towards the coach, but we are now in year 3 and we’re getting progressively worse. I’m not sure how we get out of this predicament but changing nothing is not the answer.

The only thing that keeps off the sack Madge bandwagon is no decent coach is going to come here.

That’s also a problem. But what’s happening now is not sustainable. He’s been given more than enough time to at least improve things.

At this point in time I would be surrounding him with the best possible support.

Hey Madge, can you go over and get the balls. Thanks Tim

Sheens is not the answer

Why ?

Mate, I am the biggest Tim Sheens fan, but he hasn't coached in the NRL in 10 years.

I did just check his results in the Super League and they are better than I expected, maybe I could be convinced on Sheens.

Morris with Sheens in his new job would work, Ciraldo also, I think Flanagan is far more in tune with the modern game, and a far better chance at attracting decent talent a s well, something Madge can't do

Signing Flanagan is something a successful club would do. We're more of a community responsible club. We have morals in our cabinet.

You can be successful without selling your soul to the devil.

Well we signed a bloke who stomped on the head of a guy laying in the gutter.

Yeah and I wasn't ok with that either.

Nah, wasnt saying you were. But the club signed Packer so should be ok with signing Flanagan. But won't. Fear of backlash will hold them back

2 wrongs don't make a right.

I don't think signing Flanagan would be a wrong. As long as his sentence is served.

I do

OK you made your point first time. We have to stop shouting down each other. It was different poster second time around.

You can shout me down too if you want. I dont necessarily want Flanagan but if he wants to put his hat in the ring if/when Maguire falls on his sword, I thin WT should at least talk to him and see. He has served his NRL sentence, no point in us being morally superior. Whats the old saying 'good guys come last? well we are doing that now, we need to do somethign differenr.

Shouting down? I know @gallagher reasonably well and don't think he would consider my response to him as shouting him down.

I am allowed to have the opinion that I would prefer not to have someone who has been suspended twice for cheating involved in the club I support. You accuse me of shouting someone down and then accuse me of being morally superior because you disagree with my opinion.

Didn't feel like i was shouted at. But I know I'm right ?
 
@gallagher said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393915) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393911) said:
@2005magic said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393904) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393878) said:
@gallagher said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393868) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393866) said:
@gallagher said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393864) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393861) said:
@gallagher said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393858) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393854) said:
@gallagher said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393852) said:
@851 said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393848) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393502) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393493) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393492) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393488) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393475) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393471) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393468) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393465) said:
@tiger-tragic said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393455) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393454) said:
@sleeve said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393451) said:
@demps said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393449) said:
@tigertuff said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393448) said:
@sleeve said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393446) said:
Sorry to say it, but Madges selections are on par with the game plan(or lack of), discipline (there is none) structure,(whats that?) agression, (whats that ?) It's a simple fact , we are a poorly coached team of sub standard players.

And players that he brought to the club. All way to slow for the modern game. Tamou wouldnt make any other teams first grade side and Madge has made him captain. Now he want Tpj - wow. We need hard arse defenders not big slow edge backrowers who turn up for 5 games a year. Our recruitment has been poor big time.

We won't get TPj

Too many fans complaining.
He will also be going to a better club.

Wait and see.

If i was TPj and had not yet signed, i would run a mile!
But we need him and more desparately.
WE need speed and power, the Tigers are soft and slow.

I really like Pangai Junior but he’ll make no difference to us whatsoever. At this stage not sure any player could. We’re a mess

And, I share your frustration, but what do you mean by a "mess"?

The players look disinterested, the coaching style isn’t working. We are a better team than we showed last night.

I’m shouted down on here by a few for being too negative towards the coach, but we are now in year 3 and we’re getting progressively worse. I’m not sure how we get out of this predicament but changing nothing is not the answer.

The only thing that keeps off the sack Madge bandwagon is no decent coach is going to come here.

That’s also a problem. But what’s happening now is not sustainable. He’s been given more than enough time to at least improve things.

At this point in time I would be surrounding him with the best possible support.

Hey Madge, can you go over and get the balls. Thanks Tim

Sheens is not the answer

Why ?

Mate, I am the biggest Tim Sheens fan, but he hasn't coached in the NRL in 10 years.

I did just check his results in the Super League and they are better than I expected, maybe I could be convinced on Sheens.

Morris with Sheens in his new job would work, Ciraldo also, I think Flanagan is far more in tune with the modern game, and a far better chance at attracting decent talent a s well, something Madge can't do

Signing Flanagan is something a successful club would do. We're more of a community responsible club. We have morals in our cabinet.

You can be successful without selling your soul to the devil.

Well we signed a bloke who stomped on the head of a guy laying in the gutter.

Yeah and I wasn't ok with that either.

Nah, wasnt saying you were. But the club signed Packer so should be ok with signing Flanagan. But won't. Fear of backlash will hold them back

2 wrongs don't make a right.

I don't think signing Flanagan would be a wrong. As long as his sentence is served.

I do

OK you made your point first time. We have to stop shouting down each other. It was different poster second time around.

You can shout me down too if you want. I dont necessarily want Flanagan but if he wants to put his hat in the ring if/when Maguire falls on his sword, I thin WT should at least talk to him and see. He has served his NRL sentence, no point in us being morally superior. Whats the old saying 'good guys come last? well we are doing that now, we need to do somethign differenr.

Shouting down? I know @gallagher reasonably well and don't think he would consider my response to him as shouting him down.

I am allowed to have the opinion that I would prefer not to have someone who has been suspended twice for cheating involved in the club I support. You accuse me of shouting someone down and then accuse me of being morally superior because you disagree with my opinion.

Didn't feel like i was shouted at. But I know I'm right ?

You can't be right when I am.
 
@demps said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393869) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393866) said:
@gallagher said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393864) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393861) said:
@gallagher said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393858) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393854) said:
@gallagher said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393852) said:
@851 said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393848) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393502) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393493) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393492) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393488) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393475) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393471) said:
@cochise said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393468) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393465) said:
@tiger-tragic said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393455) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393454) said:
@sleeve said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393451) said:
@demps said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393449) said:
@tigertuff said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393448) said:
@sleeve said in [Completely unacceptable: ramifications](/post/1393446) said:
Sorry to say it, but Madges selections are on par with the game plan(or lack of), discipline (there is none) structure,(whats that?) agression, (whats that ?) It's a simple fact , we are a poorly coached team of sub standard players.

And players that he brought to the club. All way to slow for the modern game. Tamou wouldnt make any other teams first grade side and Madge has made him captain. Now he want Tpj - wow. We need hard arse defenders not big slow edge backrowers who turn up for 5 games a year. Our recruitment has been poor big time.

We won't get TPj

Too many fans complaining.
He will also be going to a better club.

Wait and see.

If i was TPj and had not yet signed, i would run a mile!
But we need him and more desparately.
WE need speed and power, the Tigers are soft and slow.

I really like Pangai Junior but he’ll make no difference to us whatsoever. At this stage not sure any player could. We’re a mess

And, I share your frustration, but what do you mean by a "mess"?

The players look disinterested, the coaching style isn’t working. We are a better team than we showed last night.

I’m shouted down on here by a few for being too negative towards the coach, but we are now in year 3 and we’re getting progressively worse. I’m not sure how we get out of this predicament but changing nothing is not the answer.

The only thing that keeps off the sack Madge bandwagon is no decent coach is going to come here.

That’s also a problem. But what’s happening now is not sustainable. He’s been given more than enough time to at least improve things.

At this point in time I would be surrounding him with the best possible support.

Hey Madge, can you go over and get the balls. Thanks Tim

Sheens is not the answer

Why ?

Mate, I am the biggest Tim Sheens fan, but he hasn't coached in the NRL in 10 years.

I did just check his results in the Super League and they are better than I expected, maybe I could be convinced on Sheens.

Morris with Sheens in his new job would work, Ciraldo also, I think Flanagan is far more in tune with the modern game, and a far better chance at attracting decent talent a s well, something Madge can't do

Signing Flanagan is something a successful club would do. We're more of a community responsible club. We have morals in our cabinet.

You can be successful without selling your soul to the devil.

Well we signed a bloke who stomped on the head of a guy laying in the gutter.

Yeah and I wasn't ok with that either.

Nah, wasnt saying you were. But the club signed Packer so should be ok with signing Flanagan. But won't. Fear of backlash will hold them back

2 wrongs don't make a right.

At the end of the day, you put the right person in the right job....

It's not up to you or me but if Flanno can do a better job, he should be awarded that chance and we as, fans, deserve the right person to get us moving forward.

Yeah I just don't view him as the right person.
 
It is unacceptable.

Our coaching is not good enough. Our recruitment is not good enough. Our players are not good enough.

How players can put in no effort. How can they not ever have any line speed. How can they still not have a clue how to shut down offloads.

The same things have been killing us for a decade and there's still no progress
 
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