Confirmed: Matterson released from Wests Tigers.

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Read somewhere our squad stands at 25. Which tells me we’ll be making at least 3 signings by round 1 (I think we can run with 28 till June 30). Marsters, Matterson Mats leaves a massive hole in our squad. We’re talking mainstays in the team since the start of 2018. (19 in Matterson’s case). We need 2 of the 3 to be big names to make this worthwhile.
 
Sure matto was a turd, sure Big Ben was overpaid, sure masters had an off year...but I think we need to Remember these 3 players were some of our better ones, we can’t afford to not make a god singing and for packer to be out all year, me personally I’d really like to hear Twals perspective on the matto issue, see if he still aligned to that scum
 
@GNR4LIFE said in [Confirmed: Matterson released from Wests Tigers\.](/post/1075248) said:
@WeHaveCheeKam said in [Confirmed: Matterson released from Wests Tigers\.](/post/1075247) said:
We still have ET, McQueen and Reynolds who it would be great to get rid of because there price is no where near their value.

Packer and Mbye are probably overpaid, but I believe we can get something out of these guys.

I want what you’re on. ET was one of our best towards the back end of the yer

I want what you're on. If you think he is anywhere near the dollars the half a million + we are paying him then you are kidding. He spent a fair bit of time this year in reserve grade. Lets see how much interest he gets when his contract expires.
 
@Jimmy said in [Confirmed: Matterson released from Wests Tigers\.](/post/1075258) said:
Sure matto was a turd, sure Big Ben was overpaid, sure masters had an off year...but I think we need to Remember these 3 players were some of our better ones, we can’t afford to not make a god singing and for packer to be out all year, me personally I’d really like to hear Twals perspective on the matto issue, see if he still aligned to that scum

Aloiai as well.
 
@GNR4LIFE said in [Confirmed: Matterson released from Wests Tigers\.](/post/1075257) said:
Read somewhere our squad stands at 25. Which tells me we’ll be making at least 3 signings by round 1 (I think we can run with 28 till June 30). Marsters, Matterson Mats leaves a massive hole in our squad. We’re talking mainstays in the team since the start of 2018. (19 in Matterson’s case). We need 2 of the 3 to be big names to make this worthwhile.

Just did a Recruitment and Retention thread for this upcoming season. We're at 25, inclusive of Matterson, Marsters and Matulino moving on and Walters signing.
 
@THE_POM said in [Confirmed: Matterson released from Wests Tigers\.](/post/1075204) said:
@Cultured_Bogan said in [Confirmed: Matterson released from Wests Tigers\.](/post/1075201) said:
@THE_POM said in [Confirmed: Matterson released from Wests Tigers\.](/post/1075187) said:
Matterson release is purely business, players didn't want him there & we didn't want to pay a dollar more for him. If a deal was done prior to today it would of been, but he was always going to be released before the new NRL financial year started. We no longer contribute any $$ towards Matterson.
In relation to Lomax appears Dragons have put their foot down for 2020.......but don't rule out 2021.

Can understand that if he was on the nose with the playing group why the club would release him. If the guy is a pariah it's an untenable situation. Rather surprised that the others turned on him, usually they'd not take it personally and understand it's part of the game now.

There's other reasons players went off him & the way he carried on didn't go down well. Bridges burnt.

And looks like he is going to a club that deserves him. Hope he destabilizes things yhere.
 
Sorry if this has been covered, but... what happened to the concept of us only releasing Matterson if we get something in return?
 
@diedpretty said in [Confirmed: Matterson released from Wests Tigers\.](/post/1075264) said:
@THE_POM said in [Confirmed: Matterson released from Wests Tigers\.](/post/1075204) said:
@Cultured_Bogan said in [Confirmed: Matterson released from Wests Tigers\.](/post/1075201) said:
@THE_POM said in [Confirmed: Matterson released from Wests Tigers\.](/post/1075187) said:
Matterson release is purely business, players didn't want him there & we didn't want to pay a dollar more for him. If a deal was done prior to today it would of been, but he was always going to be released before the new NRL financial year started. We no longer contribute any $$ towards Matterson.
In relation to Lomax appears Dragons have put their foot down for 2020.......but don't rule out 2021.

Can understand that if he was on the nose with the playing group why the club would release him. If the guy is a pariah it's an untenable situation. Rather surprised that the others turned on him, usually they'd not take it personally and understand it's part of the game now.

There's other reasons players went off him & the way he carried on didn't go down well. Bridges burnt.

And looks like he is going to a club that deserves him. Hope he destabilizes things yhere.

Parra has definitely had it's fair share of fevered egos over the years. Hayne, Moses, Matterson and if you're Demps, Luke Burt.
 
@WeHaveCheeKam said in [Confirmed: Matterson released from Wests Tigers\.](/post/1075247) said:
We still have ET, McQueen and Reynolds who it would be great to get rid of because there price is no where near their value.

Packer and Mbye are probably overpaid, but I believe we can get something out of these guys.


I still think ET can bring something to the team. He’s always been a good defender and his attack improved under Madge this year.

Reynolds has only been a disappointment because of injuries and his price tag. If he was able to stay on the park I think he’ll go ok. He’s the polar opposite of Matto and always puts the team first and competes for everything. You can’t buy attitude.

McQueen was an origin player not long ago and Madge got the best out of him at Souths. If he can regain some confidence and form who knows.

I’m probably trying to see the light in the tunnel here. Yes, they’re all overpaid, Cleary didn’t spend wisely, but they all have talent in their own respects. It’s just a case of biting the bullet and Madge working with the cattle he’s been gifted as best he can. Hopefully he can get them all firing again.

If we release any of them and have to pay large portions of the freight then you have to weigh up if it’s to any benefit to let them go.

As long as the club is smart with the 1.7m and 5m the year after being reported then we have a huge opportunity to turn into a genuine top 8 squad over the next 2 years.
 
@Jimmy said in [Confirmed: Matterson released from Wests Tigers\.](/post/1075258) said:
Sure matto was a turd, sure Big Ben was overpaid, sure masters had an off year...but I think we need to Remember these 3 players were some of our better ones, we can’t afford to not make a god singing and for packer to be out all year, me personally I’d really like to hear Twals perspective on the matto issue, see if he still aligned to that scum

Twal and Aloiai's friendship with him does worry me. If the players went off him, there could be a divide there.
 
@steve-o said in [Confirmed: Matterson released from Wests Tigers\.](/post/1075266) said:
Sorry if this has been covered, but... what happened to the concept of us only releasing Matterson if we get something in return?

Maybe him being released freed up the funds for a replacement.
 
@steve-o said in [Confirmed: Matterson released from Wests Tigers\.](/post/1075266) said:
Sorry if this has been covered, but... what happened to the concept of us only releasing Matterson if we get something in return?

Needed him off the books by November 1.
 
@AnotherOne said in [Confirmed: Matterson released from Wests Tigers\.](/post/1075246) said:
I read that we will head to the open market with 1.5M for 2020 and by 2021 we will have about 5M.

I think we can build a very decent team and could be Title Contenders from as soon as 2021

MADGE HAS A PLAN
 
@Geo didn’t Pascoe imply that we’d only release Matterson if the club he was going to would give us a favourable deal in return? Was that just a bit of chest beating?
 
@WeHaveCheeKam said in [Confirmed: Matterson released from Wests Tigers\.](/post/1075260) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Confirmed: Matterson released from Wests Tigers\.](/post/1075248) said:
@WeHaveCheeKam said in [Confirmed: Matterson released from Wests Tigers\.](/post/1075247) said:
We still have ET, McQueen and Reynolds who it would be great to get rid of because there price is no where near their value.

Packer and Mbye are probably overpaid, but I believe we can get something out of these guys.

I want what you’re on. ET was one of our best towards the back end of the yer

I want what you're on. If you think he is anywhere near the dollars the half a million + we are paying him then you are kidding. He spent a fair bit of time this year in reserve grade. Lets see how much interest he gets when his contract expires.

I couldn’t care less how much interest he gets. All I know is he finished the year strong, and to put him in the same sentence as McQueen shows complete cluelessness. I’m not advocating he becomes an immortal, but he’s earned some credit . And he did spend a bit of time in CC, which is why he deserves that credit. Because he was out of favour, and unlike Packer and McQueen, didn’t throw in the towel. He fought his way back into the side and was one of our best performers.
 
@GNR4LIFE said in [Confirmed: Matterson released from Wests Tigers\.](/post/1075304) said:
@WeHaveCheeKam said in [Confirmed: Matterson released from Wests Tigers\.](/post/1075260) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Confirmed: Matterson released from Wests Tigers\.](/post/1075248) said:
@WeHaveCheeKam said in [Confirmed: Matterson released from Wests Tigers\.](/post/1075247) said:
We still have ET, McQueen and Reynolds who it would be great to get rid of because there price is no where near their value.

Packer and Mbye are probably overpaid, but I believe we can get something out of these guys.

I want what you’re on. ET was one of our best towards the back end of the yer

I want what you're on. If you think he is anywhere near the dollars the half a million + we are paying him then you are kidding. He spent a fair bit of time this year in reserve grade. Lets see how much interest he gets when his contract expires.

I couldn’t care less how much interest he gets. All I know is he finished the year strong, and to put him in the same sentence as McQueen shows complete cluelessness. I’m not advocating he becomes an immortal, but he’s earned some credit . And he did spend a bit of time in CC, which is why he deserves that credit. Because he was out of favour, and unlike Packer and McQueen, didn’t throw in the towel. He fought his way back into the side and was one of our best performers.

He played okay at the end of the year but for a guy on $500-600k a year he gives us very little output. Guys on that coin should not be spending any time in reserve grade. The fact he even had to come back from that is a problem, and he should of been well dropped before that.

He has been nothing more than solid for the last few years. Even one of "our best" at the end of year...I am not sure how much that says. He was okay, hardly a game breaker. Good defender, adds very little in attack. If somehow there was an opportunity to move him on, hed be one of the first guys in the roster you would, given the quality of the player you could get with his money. If he was on $200k, it would be a different story.
 
@WeHaveCheeKam said in [Confirmed: Matterson released from Wests Tigers\.](/post/1075313) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Confirmed: Matterson released from Wests Tigers\.](/post/1075304) said:
@WeHaveCheeKam said in [Confirmed: Matterson released from Wests Tigers\.](/post/1075260) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Confirmed: Matterson released from Wests Tigers\.](/post/1075248) said:
@WeHaveCheeKam said in [Confirmed: Matterson released from Wests Tigers\.](/post/1075247) said:
We still have ET, McQueen and Reynolds who it would be great to get rid of because there price is no where near their value.

Packer and Mbye are probably overpaid, but I believe we can get something out of these guys.

I want what you’re on. ET was one of our best towards the back end of the yer

I want what you're on. If you think he is anywhere near the dollars the half a million + we are paying him then you are kidding. He spent a fair bit of time this year in reserve grade. Lets see how much interest he gets when his contract expires.

I couldn’t care less how much interest he gets. All I know is he finished the year strong, and to put him in the same sentence as McQueen shows complete cluelessness. I’m not advocating he becomes an immortal, but he’s earned some credit . And he did spend a bit of time in CC, which is why he deserves that credit. Because he was out of favour, and unlike Packer and McQueen, didn’t throw in the towel. He fought his way back into the side and was one of our best performers.

He played okay at the end of the year but for a guy on $500-600k a year he gives us very little output. Guys on that coin should not be spending any time in reserve grade. The fact he even had to come back from that is a problem, and he should of been well dropped before that.

He has been nothing more than solid for the last few years. Even one of "our best" at the end of year...I am not sure how much that says. He was okay, hardly a game breaker. Good defender, adds very little in attack. If somehow there was an opportunity to move him on, hed be one of the first guys in the roster you would, given the quality of the player you could get with his money. If he was on $200k, it would be a different story.



@WeHaveCheeKam said in [Confirmed: Matterson released from Wests Tigers\.](/post/1075313) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Confirmed: Matterson released from Wests Tigers\.](/post/1075304) said:
@WeHaveCheeKam said in [Confirmed: Matterson released from Wests Tigers\.](/post/1075260) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Confirmed: Matterson released from Wests Tigers\.](/post/1075248) said:
@WeHaveCheeKam said in [Confirmed: Matterson released from Wests Tigers\.](/post/1075247) said:
We still have ET, McQueen and Reynolds who it would be great to get rid of because there price is no where near their value.

Packer and Mbye are probably overpaid, but I believe we can get something out of these guys.

I want what you’re on. ET was one of our best towards the back end of the yer

I want what you're on. If you think he is anywhere near the dollars the half a million + we are paying him then you are kidding. He spent a fair bit of time this year in reserve grade. Lets see how much interest he gets when his contract expires.

I couldn’t care less how much interest he gets. All I know is he finished the year strong, and to put him in the same sentence as McQueen shows complete cluelessness. I’m not advocating he becomes an immortal, but he’s earned some credit . And he did spend a bit of time in CC, which is why he deserves that credit. Because he was out of favour, and unlike Packer and McQueen, didn’t throw in the towel. He fought his way back into the side and was one of our best performers.

He played okay at the end of the year but for a guy on $500-600k a year he gives us very little output. Guys on that coin should not be spending any time in reserve grade. The fact he even had to come back from that is a problem, and he should of been well dropped before that.

He has been nothing more than solid for the last few years. Even one of "our best" at the end of year...I am not sure how much that says. He was okay, hardly a game breaker. Good defender, adds very little in attack. If somehow there was an opportunity to move him on, hed be one of the first guys in the roster you would, given the quality of the player you could get with his money. If he was on $200k, it would be a different story.

Maybe but he is not on 500 - 600k either.
 
Cleary used ET quite well at lock as a middle defender and a link between the halves. It depends on the makeup of the team how valuable that is. Brooks and Benji are much better at finding each other with a long pass than they were a few years ago.
 
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