Confirmed: Matterson released from Wests Tigers.

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@gallagher said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1063029) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1063027) said:
How do this sound? Major teams with gaps in their second row roster. They cannot be filled with the players on the market. Therefore, a manager commences a campaign of destabilisation to get his client free of his current contract for a big earner with a new (or old club) plus a healthy commission (on top of what he perhaps has received to run this campaign).

Very likely. Also, a player joins a club assuming a certain level of professionism. Finds out the place is a disaster and wants to leave.

Have you noticed the ex tigers playing in every semi this week? Every game!!
So many that you start to think it's us, not them thats the problem.

We've had issues with retention and everyone is sick of my whinging about Papenhuyzen. Things need to improve and under Maguire I'm sure we will see improvement. I want to read this off season that Scolari has a new contract and is being groomed to replace Nofoaluma on the right wing.

As for Matterson, he is 25 and another 2 years at our club and we might want to move onto another better player. It works both ways and all this drama does his reputation no good.
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1063030) said:
@gallagher said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1063029) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1063027) said:
How do this sound? Major teams with gaps in their second row roster. They cannot be filled with the players on the market. Therefore, a manager commences a campaign of destabilisation to get his client free of his current contract for a big earner with a new (or old club) plus a healthy commission (on top of what he perhaps has received to run this campaign).

Very likely. Also, a player joins a club assuming a certain level of professionism. Finds out the place is a disaster and wants to leave.

Have you noticed the ex tigers playing in every semi this week? Every game!!
So many that you start to think it's us, not them thats the problem.

We've had issues with retention and everyone is sick of my whinging about Papenhuyzen. Things need to improve and under Maguire I'm sure we will see improvement. I want to read this off season that Scolari has a new contract and is being groomed to replace Nofoaluma on the right wing.

As for Matterson, he is 25 and another 2 years at our club and we might want to move onto another better player. It works both ways and all this drama does his reputation no good.

I only hope Maguire gets the support he needs. Is great to make $100k profit but not so good if we are spending millions less than other clubs in the football dept.
 
Just watched the chat. Madge says he has a good relationship with Ryan and he’s working hard to bring the club along. He said he looked forward to a good future with him as part of the club.
 
@helmesy said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1063061) said:
Just watched the chat. Madge says he has a good relationship with Ryan and he’s working hard to bring the club along. He said he looked forward to a good future with him as part of the club.

but but..buzz..

and

Pooper said otherwise
 
@Geo said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1063062) said:
@helmesy said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1063061) said:
Just watched the chat. Madge says he has a good relationship with Ryan and he’s working hard to bring the club along. He said he looked forward to a good future with him as part of the club.

but but..buzz..

and

Pooper said otherwise


Stop giving them oxygen !
 
I know other clubs are run better than ours. They have more coaching staff, are more professional, actually serve Gatorade and so on.

Isn't there a cap on how much clubs can spend on the coaching and support staff coming in either this coming year or soon? Won't that at least tell us how much we should be spending, and if we can't meet that amount then we know we need to?
 
@TigerTiger said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1063079) said:
I know other clubs are run better than ours. They have more coaching staff, are more professional, actually serve Gatorade and so on.

Isn't there a cap on how much clubs can spend on the coaching and support staff coming in either this coming year or soon? Won't that at least tell us how much we should be spending, and if we can't meet that amount then we know we need to?

Not sure if that soft cap has come in yet. There's talk there will also be a minimum spend clubs will need to meet.
 
@TigerTiger The Football Operations cap started in 2018, is why Cleary is safe for the first 2 years of his tenure with the Pamfers, they are still paying Griffin and they both come under the cap, can't fit a third coach under the cap :grin: .
 
Journalists like Buzz and Hoops are notorious for exaggeration and misrepresentation, they publish stories and push out statements based on their ‘mail’ and ‘hear say’ from undisclosed sources - they’re headline seeking, rugby league shock jocks, and there is a appetite for that.

However where there’s smoke, there’s usually fire, but there needs to be some sensible perspective on these matters as it’s usually not an out-of-control astonishing soaring roaring fire, but just some vaping going on, or someone lighting farts so to speak. :dash: :fire:
 
Can't think of any genuine first grader the Roosters have let go playing finals football except Ferguson. They know when to hold em and know when to show em the door.
 
@Don_Kershane said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1063089) said:
Can't think of any genuine first grader the Roosters have let go playing finals football except Ferguson. They know when to hold em and know when to show em the door.


Yes and no. RTS was a huge loss they didn’t want to lose but managed to replace him with Teddy. RTS is top 2 fullbacks in the game with Teddy.
 
I always wonder...

When something like this comes out in the press, why doesnt the player involved just flat out defuse the situation and tell the media/social media the what hes actually thinking?

say something if its all B.S Matto! if not, well.....
 
@gallagher said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1063029) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1063027) said:
How do this sound? Major teams with gaps in their second row roster. They cannot be filled with the players on the market. Therefore, a manager commences a campaign of destabilisation to get his client free of his current contract for a big earner with a new (or old club) plus a healthy commission (on top of what he perhaps has received to run this campaign).

Very likely. Also, a player joins a club assuming a certain level of professionism. Finds out the place is a disaster and wants to leave.

Have you noticed the ex tigers playing in every semi this week? Every game!!
So many that you start to think it's us, not them thats the problem.

Hit the nail on the head there mate:+1:
 
@tigeress said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1063096) said:
@gallagher said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1063029) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1063027) said:
How do this sound? Major teams with gaps in their second row roster. They cannot be filled with the players on the market. Therefore, a manager commences a campaign of destabilisation to get his client free of his current contract for a big earner with a new (or old club) plus a healthy commission (on top of what he perhaps has received to run this campaign).

Very likely. Also, a player joins a club assuming a certain level of professionism. Finds out the place is a disaster and wants to leave.

Have you noticed the ex tigers playing in every semi this week? Every game!!
So many that you start to think it's us, not them thats the problem.

Hit the nail on the head there mate:+1:

Personally I think that this is a pessimistic and unrealistic viewpoint. I consider these type of opinions slander. There are no facts just a blanket we are so bad.

Who really complains about this stuff. The only one I know about is Bwaith.
 
@Zach said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1063094) said:
When something like this comes out in the press, why doesnt the player involved just flat out defuse the situation and tell the media/social media the what hes actually thinking?

Because it has the potential to be beneficial to them!
 
@cochise said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1063098) said:
@Zach said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1063094) said:
When something like this comes out in the press, why doesnt the player involved just flat out defuse the situation and tell the media/social media the what hes actually thinking?

Because it has the potential to be beneficial to them!

Yes, think who or what clubs, besides the player, stand to benefit most if this tree is shaken hard enough and the player drops free. Which big name locks and second row forwards are retiring to leaving? Do you believe in coincidence?
 
It’s common place for clubs to upgrade the contracts of players. It’s usually done by upgrading the final year with an extension.

Matterson was a depth/fringe/utility at the Roosters, who spent a large portion of their premiership season on the sideline. He had a breakout final series coming off the bench when he returned.

His form continued and this season at the Wests Tigers was his best ever, and the rugby league community has taken notice.

He might be feeling morose witnessing his former club and teammates putting together another tilt at the title. But he may never of reached the same heights he did this year if he’d stayed at the Roosters and continued to be a depth/bench player and would have been on even less coin.

My advice to Ryan would be to put your head down, work hard and buy into what Madge is doing - the money and rewards will soon follow.
 
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