Confirmed: Matterson released from Wests Tigers.

[cqtiger]

I will be cancelling my membership rollover tomorrow. Want to see how this plays out


I’m doing the same. I sent an email to WestsTigers AFTER I rolled over my membership stating how disenfranchised I felt as a member. I listed many ways that I felt the club showed no respect for members. I also listed ways to turn members into advocates for the club. I received back an explanation that simply justified everything they did.
Now, yet again, we are in the middle of a crap fight. This garbage never happens at Melbourne or roosters.
I’ll always support the club and I’ll watch every game but I’m showing my disappointment by pulling my membership. Sad thing, the club couldn’t care less.

Doesn't rolling over the m'ship mean you are renewing?

If so, did you say in your email that you are opting out?


I initially opted in. I’ve since said not to renew my membership

Sad Steve, Think we four may end up doing the same.

I don't get you guys. Cleary backstabs Tigers and now Matto might be doing the same, and your response is to withdraw membership and penalise the club.

I don't know what you expect the club to do. Damned in all directions if your key signing suddenly wants more money and kicks stones to get his way.

"This never happens at the Storm or Roosters". Well, firstly, go support those damned clubs if that is the benchmark. Secondly, no, teams currently in the top 1 or 2 clubs tend to not have too many upset players.

But actually contract nonsense happens at every club, that's unfortunately part of the deal with sports. Folau backstabbed Melbourne to sign a 4-year deal with Broncos after his debut season. Justin Hodges sought out a mid-year transfer to Broncos from the Roosters in 2004. Ryan Cross strung the Roosters along for a while then defected to rugby. Will Chambers defected to rugby after the 2009 GF. RTS turned down a Roosters deal to take on a lucrative one at Warriors. Rarely do players publicly weasel their way out of deals, but they "backstab" clubs all the time.

"I'll still support the club and watch every game", but, you know, I won't part with any money, to show Tigers how disappointed I am. That's such a disappointing outlook. I understand if money is a problem, but to quit on the Tigers when they need support the most. I mean, bandwagoning is easy, easy as pie to ride with the successful team. But the club needs strong supporters when times are tough.

Apparently we need tougher management and a tough coach, but supporters can just quit.


Totally agree ..... it’s kind of sad if people are really doing this because one immature player and his manager are playing $ games. Get real people when times get tough .... tough get going. This is not the time to punish the club for something they have very much control over.

Just one player and it would make sense. Numerous good players wanting out over 5 -6 years says something else.


Have a good look at the off season player movements and then tell me that apart from very few clubs that seem to have unlimited cap space and TPAs ..... this type of thing is just normal business.
It’s just the way life is ... the rich get richer and the poor are just that.

Now the only way I can see that that could change with me is to start following one of the “blessed ones” but you know I’m an old Magpie supporter and am used to seeing good players ripped from my team. And I’m also used to being a proud supporter of an underdog team such as ours. And am happy to see new talent emerging and team getting rebuilt no matter how many times it’s burned down and pillaged!

So you ain’t going to convince me to give up and not support something I believe in and enjoy in my life ..... no matter how many money hungry prima donnas decide to bale out.

Im not trying to convince anyone to quit. But im not gonna swallow the 'woe is us' line either. Too many good, one great , players have left over the last 5 years with no good replacements has convinced me we're anything like a well run club.
**If they have 600k to throw at ambassador roles while our coaching ranks are thin then they don't need my money.**

That was my feeling a few years back when we were paying players to play everywhere. If they have that much money to throw around all the time then they don't need mine.

Those silly Bronco supporters.
That club has money coming out of their ears but still they take people’s hard earned. They must be so gullible.

 

[Furious1]

I will be cancelling my membership rollover tomorrow. Want to see how this plays out


I’m doing the same. I sent an email to WestsTigers AFTER I rolled over my membership stating how disenfranchised I felt as a member. I listed many ways that I felt the club showed no respect for members. I also listed ways to turn members into advocates for the club. I received back an explanation that simply justified everything they did.
Now, yet again, we are in the middle of a crap fight. This garbage never happens at Melbourne or roosters.
I’ll always support the club and I’ll watch every game but I’m showing my disappointment by pulling my membership. Sad thing, the club couldn’t care less.

Doesn't rolling over the m'ship mean you are renewing?

If so, did you say in your email that you are opting out?


I initially opted in. I’ve since said not to renew my membership

Sad Steve, Think we four may end up doing the same.

I don't get you guys. Cleary backstabs Tigers and now Matto might be doing the same, and your response is to withdraw membership and penalise the club.

I don't know what you expect the club to do. Damned in all directions if your key signing suddenly wants more money and kicks stones to get his way.

"This never happens at the Storm or Roosters". Well, firstly, go support those damned clubs if that is the benchmark. Secondly, no, teams currently in the top 1 or 2 clubs tend to not have too many upset players.

But actually contract nonsense happens at every club, that's unfortunately part of the deal with sports. Folau backstabbed Melbourne to sign a 4-year deal with Broncos after his debut season. Justin Hodges sought out a mid-year transfer to Broncos from the Roosters in 2004. Ryan Cross strung the Roosters along for a while then defected to rugby. Will Chambers defected to rugby after the 2009 GF. RTS turned down a Roosters deal to take on a lucrative one at Warriors. Rarely do players publicly weasel their way out of deals, but they "backstab" clubs all the time.

"I'll still support the club and watch every game", but, you know, I won't part with any money, to show Tigers how disappointed I am. That's such a disappointing outlook. I understand if money is a problem, but to quit on the Tigers when they need support the most. I mean, bandwagoning is easy, easy as pie to ride with the successful team. But the club needs strong supporters when times are tough.

Apparently we need tougher management and a tough coach, but supporters can just quit.


Totally agree ..... it’s kind of sad if people are really doing this because one immature player and his manager are playing $ games. Get real people when times get tough .... tough get going. This is not the time to punish the club for something they have very much control over.

Just one player and it would make sense. Numerous good players wanting out over 5 -6 years says something else.


Have a good look at the off season player movements and then tell me that apart from very few clubs that seem to have unlimited cap space and TPAs ..... this type of thing is just normal business.
It’s just the way life is ... the rich get richer and the poor are just that.

Now the only way I can see that that could change with me is to start following one of the “blessed ones” but you know I’m an old Magpie supporter and am used to seeing good players ripped from my team. And I’m also used to being a proud supporter of an underdog team such as ours. And am happy to see new talent emerging and team getting rebuilt no matter how many times it’s burned down and pillaged!

So you ain’t going to convince me to give up and not support something I believe in and enjoy in my life ..... no matter how many money hungry prima donnas decide to bale out.

Im not trying to convince anyone to quit. But im not gonna swallow the 'woe is us' line either. Too many good, one great , players have left over the last 5 years with no good replacements has convinced me we're anything like a well run club.
**If they have 600k to throw at ambassador roles while our coaching ranks are thin then they don't need my money.**

That was my feeling a few years back when we were paying players to play everywhere. If they have that much money to throw around all the time then they don't need mine.

Those silly Bronco supporters.
That club has money coming out of their ears but still they take people’s hard earned. They must be so gullible.

How many players were the Broncos paying to play elsewhere?

 

[Tiger_Steve]

@Tiger_Steve

Not having a shot, just curious, but what could Wests do in this situation to keep you as a member?

If Pascoe rang you and said Steve, the kid wants more money, he hates how the coach pushes him. He just hates it here at the club. What do you want me to do?

Again, just curious.

I suppose this Matterson issue has been the tipping point for me.
I have been a member for years. I attend most games - home and away.
I am frustrated with so much NRL:
1. The lack of equity in the game
2. The poor management at NRL level
3. The constant criticism of WestsTigers
4. The constant losing of good players
5. The constant under performing of players at our club
6. The apathetic attitude of young footy players.
7. The poor attitude towards members
8. The lack of communication

I walked away from the Penrith and Melbourne games absolutely gutted. Two losses, so predictable, that impacted our season.

But to answer your question - I would be back if the club could demonstrate change and growth. I’m sick of the same crap every year.

Some are saying the Matterson thing is not of the clubs doing. Maybe. But why does this happen to us so often?

 

[Needaname]

@GNR4LIFE
It allows everything to be played out in private until a resolution is sought.

Gives the fans a bit of a heads up rather than a shock announcement his gone.

Matterson has been granted leave for the remainder of the 2019 season.
Meaning next time we or anyone else will see him in a footballing capacity is the start of the 2020 pre-season which commenced In November. This way reporters aren’t turning up to training trying to pester him or others for the scoop.

It’s also a nice buffer for breaking the more permanent news to the fans.

What hasn’t been considered is that on the Session Madge said it would be sorted in the next couple of weeks.

Now if the club and Matto were going to agree to an extension or playing resolution you would think he would want to be back at training once resolved (in the next couple of weeks)

As they haven’t mentioned they granted leave indefinitely there is no chance of him returning to finishing off training with the team.

Makes it very easy for him to now up and leave.
And for the club to put out another statement which details the final outcome.

 

[Aceshigh]

@Needaname I think make him and his greedy manager stay or grant him a release when every other clibs salary cap has been reached , then turf him

 

[Needaname]

@Aceshigh
Goodness some of you guys won’t relent.
No other job in the world can you not turn up to your boss one day and say I quit. Contract or no contract. Yes it’s good money they are on and as fans we hope they stick around but they deserve the right to be treated as humans and it’s ok for them to have a change of heart.

 

[Russell]

I am calling Matterson out to being a "Super Hypocrite"

If he considers himself a Christian then he would honour and fulfill the contract he signed. Not break his word, not seek a release and certainly not go after more money from us or other clubs whilst he accepted certain figures from us.

If he considers himself a Christian he certainly would not pretend to be physically or mentally sick if he wasn't, would he?

I am sure some or all of the above is true - therefore Mr Matterson stop pretending to being something you are not. You are being a hypocrite.

 

[jojo]

@Needaname I don't think the club had any intention of making a statement until fox sports rang the club and his manager asking why he wasn't at training. Once the cat was out of the bag and then there was more than likely going to be further media interest into it then they released the throw away statement. Maybe Im just pessimistic about it, because its not like our club is always only reactive to things .... I do wonder what it would have been like to support a proactive club instead.

 

[jirskyr]

How dare you call me a quitter! I’ve supported this club for close to 50 years. Who are you to pass judgment?
I have communicated with this club many times in an intelligent, articulate and well thought manner trying to offer well thought through suggestions in how to be a better club. Not arrogantly, not rudely, not forcefully. But nothing changes.
We lurch from one disaster to the next. I’m sick of it. I’m sick of finishing ninth! So, as I cannot make a difference through critical dialogue I am left with only one option - show my frustration through walking and that’s what I’ve done.
You can continue with the moral high ground - you’re choice but I’m making a stand. I’m letting my club know I’ve had enough.
If you don’t like it - fair enough but don’t call me a quitter. I’ll still be there and I’ll probably go to every game as I have for flipping years - but I’m canceling my membership as I have no other way to get my point across.
You’d walk a long mile to find a bloke more attached to this club than me and I won’t walk away. But I’m not paying for membership when it’s not valued and the club continually disappoints.

You quit your membership. I didn't say you "were a quitter" in such words, I know that has more connotation. You are right, I don't know you people from Adam. But I do know you want to quit your membership because reasons. This is the "Matto unhappy" thread, so if you are quitting your membership for some other reason entirely, then this might not be the right thread for that conversation.

But ultimately no, I don't agree with tearing up your membership because the club doesn't win enough. That's ultimately what it is. You can call it "lurching from one disaster to the next", but fundamentally that's what happens at most clubs most of the time. There's always some issue going on and the reason for this is because 15/16 clubs don't win the comp every year.

Now if you end up going to every game anyway, then fair enough, that's better than a membership and financial support of the club is what counts.

But do you reckon the club sits down and tallies the reason why memberships are turned over? Do you reckon they have the spare staff to collate that data? Some big old spreadsheet "why did you cancel your membership"... oh Tiger_Steve is disappointed, put that down on our Excel tracker.

"Hey Justin, just got an email from Tiger_Steve, it's very articulate, he's disappointed with ongoing issues and wants to cancel his membership."
"Oh well if Steve is disappointed we must try to do better."

I am being facetious but I am trying to make the point that the club really doesn't care about you alone. It's like politics. You can write to your local member all you like, but you need a landslide of folks to make the kind of impact you are talking about. In this instance, the landslide would be huge numbers of cancelled memberships, which would definitely send a message, but a mixed message, because not everyone has the same issues. And that message would come with a very large financial setback for the club.

The club already knows what the issues are and are always trying their best to resolve them. That's their job, they don't want to come into work every day and deal with the crap, they want to win and for everything to go nice and smoothly.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I seriously doubt a few thousand cancelled memberships make a difference to the management efforts to make the club as strong as possible.

But do you get where I am coming from? You are making a stand, fine, but precisely what is that stand about? I do mean precisely, not just some vague idea of disappointment or lack of results or "wishing club wasn't a basketcase". The club can't do anything specific about "general discontent", not any more than they are trying already.

 

[tigerbalm]

@Tiger_Steve

Not having a shot, just curious, but what could Wests do in this situation to keep you as a member?

If Pascoe rang you and said Steve, the kid wants more money, he hates how the coach pushes him. He just hates it here at the club. What do you want me to do?

Again, just curious.


I suppose this Matterson issue has been the tipping point for me.
I have been a member for years. I attend most games - home and away.
I am frustrated with so much NRL:
1. The lack of equity in the game
2. The poor management at NRL level
3. The constant criticism of WestsTigers
4. The constant losing of good players
5. The constant under performing of players at our club
6. The apathetic attitude of young footy players.
7. The poor attitude towards members
8. The lack of communication

I walked away from the Penrith and Melbourne games absolutely gutted. Two losses, so predictable, that impacted our season.

But to answer your question - I would be back if the club could demonstrate change and growth. I’m sick of the same crap every year.

Some are saying the Matterson thing is not of the clubs doing. Maybe. **But why does this happen to us so often?**

I think that's the thing that get's me too.

 

[jadtiger]

I am calling Matterson out to being a "Super Hypocrite"

If he considers himself a Christian then he would honour and fulfill the contract he signed. Not break his word, not seek a release and certainly not go after more money from us or other clubs whilst he accepted certain figures from us.

If he considers himself a Christian he certainly would not pretend to be physically or mentally sick if he wasn't, would he?

I am sure some or all of the above is true - therefore Mr Matterson stop pretending to being something you are not. You are being a hypocrite.

Of course he is being a hypocrite,lets be honest most people are hypocrits and the more religious many are the more hypocritical they are.That comment does mean all of them just a portion

 

[jojo]

@Needaname Have you ever broken a contract with a company? There is always, as far as I know financial cost to the individual breaking it and financial gain to the company who held the contract. This seems to be completely the opposite.

 

[Geo]

Is this the biggest fall from Grace since Scott Prince signed with the TiTans...?

I'll hand out the pitchforks ..@hobbo1 you're on the tar @happy_tiger you get the feathers..

 

[the_third]

@willow so he basically takes Rochows position in Canterbury cup. Nothing lost. Reputation gained

 

[TheDaBoss]

where is the Pom when u need him....

 

[jirskyr]

@gallagher

What nuffies?

The bloke that doesn't know the salary rules to start with.

Yeah Pascoe is getting the arse because some folks cancelled their memberships. You need to wake up.

I get it, you think Pascoe is rubbish at his job. You put the boot in every possible opportunity and it's boring. Pascoe is penalised for bringing Cleary, yet Madge is apparently a good purchase...also brought on by Pascoe.

The Ryan Matterson exit issue has literally nothing to do with Pascoe at all. Either he wants more money or is overworked or some combination, but we signed him on a good deal. If Pascoe is indeed to be criticised for salary cap issues, he should equally be commended for astute value propositions like Matto.

Maybe if vast numbers of memberships are cancelled the Board might do something about Pascoe, but equally they might give Pascoe a chance to turn things around. I am absolutely certain that the Board has some particular opinion of Pascoe's capabilities already and his performance KPIs, and Joe Blow from the public isn't going to change that.

 

[Spud_Murphy]

Wests Tigers tire of Ryan Matterson — and rivals are circling
September 19, 2019

Wests Tigers are becoming increasingly frustrated with the behaviour of utility star Ryan Matterson, who was on Thursday granted leave from training for the rest of this season.

Club management won’t talk publicly but are sufficiently angry to tell Matterson — who they suggest is driven by money — he can walk away.

Well-informed sources believe Matterson wants a significant financial upgrade and is now “moping”, citing “personal reasons” for refusing to train.

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Ryan Matterson produced a great season for the Tigers.
Ryan Matterson produced a great season for the Tigers.

The Daily Telegraph understands Matterson hasn’t formally sought additional money but Wests Tigers understand at least one Sydney club has shown considerable interest in Matterson, despite him being under contract at Concord until the end of 2021.

Matterson, 24, is telling club officials he is fatigued and worn out but management remains sceptical.

Wests Tigers forward Ryan Matterson has requested a leave from training for remainder of 2019 season due to personal reasons. Club has granted request

Some Wests Tigers officials are confused over Matterson’s behaviour but believe the crux of the drama surrounds his contract.

Wests Tigers admire Matterson’s football ability and want him to fulfil his three-year deal but his management met club officials last week seeking permission to negotiate with rival clubs.
A number of clubs are keen on Ryan Matterson.
A number of clubs are keen on Ryan Matterson.

However the club, under strict head coach Michael Maguire, won’t tolerate a player who refuses to buy into the Tigers’ culture. If Matterson isn’t committed, say club officials, he can leave.

Wests Tigers issued a statement which read: “Wests Tigers forward Ryan Matterson has requested a leave from training for the remainder of the 2019 season due to personal reasons.

“Wests Tigers have granted this request. The club will be making no further comment at this time”.
Ryan Matterson has requested leave from training for the remainder of the 2019 season.
Ryan Matterson has requested leave from training for the remainder of the 2019 season.

The Daily Telegraph has been told Matterson’s contract is worth around $350,000 a year but he could attract offers of around $550,000 per season from rival clubs.

Matterson — part of an extended NSW State of Origin squad this year — hasn’t been sighted at training since Monday. There has been conjecture about the working relationship between Matterson and Maguire.

Parramatta, Canterbury and Newcastle have been linked to Matterson but none have made any formal approaches just yet. The Bulldogs have had what has been described as a “nibble” at Matterson.

LISTEN! Matty, Finchy and Kenty address “Pokies-gate” and the Broncos self-combustion, Joey Leilua’s fireworks mishap, and how Wayne Bennett and Des Hasler know exactly how to get the best out of their individuals. PLUS, the Roosters had a sleepover at the SCG?!

Tigers signed Matterson this year on an inflated contract from what he was earning at his previous club, Sydney Roosters.

Matterson’s manager, Gavin Orr, said earlier this week his client was sick and had not trained on doctor’s orders.

After missing the finals this season, Maguire ordered his players to continue training up until NRL grand final on October 6.

Wests Tigers are looking to free up some salary cap space to possibly upgrade Matterson and re-sign stalwarts Benji Marshall and Chris Lawrence, players who digest the club’s culture.

Sad to say Matterson is just looking more and more like another Mitchell Moses (sans the tanking in games) even right down to the mental health reasons for non-participation. I give him credit for at least waiting until our season was over before making these waves.

Still, it all just stinks that these players/coaches can just wipe their feet on our club and keep throwing tantrums until the club gets to the point of having to relent and telling them to just bloody well go! These guys might look bad to all and sundry for a while, but they all inevitably move onto better things at another club, start playing great, tell everyone how happy they are now they’ve left the Tigers and all is forgiven! After a while they become admired by everyone in rugby league again.

Us, on the other hand, well we might look like the innocent party at the time and everyone is on our side and feels feels sorry for us, but ultimately we lose out because we can’t hang on long enough to any talented players, who might actually help to propel us into finals contention, so we end up in the same position year after year.

It also begs the question why don’t the better players that we actually do have want to stay? Are we just buying/producing the wrong type of player - i.e. mercenaries, or is there something going on here that they just don’t like? Moses, Tedesco & co were at least here for some time and just grew tired of not being part of finals football, but Matterson has only been with us one season and already wants out! And by all accounts he already wanted to go in May - what the?? He hasn’t even given us a chance and he hasn’t given the club a chance to sit down and renegotiate his contract if that’s what he really wants.

I wonder if all this hoo-ha would be going on if we actually made the finals.

 

[Furious1]

@Aceshigh
Goodness some of you guys won’t relent.
**No other job in the world can you not turn up to your boss one day and say I quit. Contract or no contract.** Yes it’s good money they are on and as fans we hope they stick around but they deserve the right to be treated as humans and it’s ok for them to have a change of heart.

I'm not from the business world, but i believe yes, you can quit at any time, but usually you have to sign a "non compete" contract?

 

[hobbo1]

Is this the biggest fall from Grace since Scott Prince signed with the TiTans...?

I'll hand out the pitchforks ..@hobbo1 you're on the tar @happy_tiger you get the feathers..

Woo hoo !

Prince was pussy whipped ..
Matterson’s just a flog ...

Typical of you though...
Don’t won’t to get your hands dirty 😂

 

[larry2005]

Introduce him to reserve grade coach and wish him luck with getting to origin from there. Tell his manager that we will no longer deal with him. Play hardball, what have we got to lose?