Corona impact on NRL...?

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Wow they are actually considering my thought of all teams at one venue hah https://www.nrl.com/news/2020/03/14/greenberg-games-at-one-location-an-option/

From that article..

"I think if you miss too many games – if you miss a Titans game or a team lower on the ladder and then you get a Roosters game that you have to verse twice in a year – I just don't think it's fair," Moses told Triple M.

Sums up the slimey little fart.....

The perennial sook. Will laugh long and hard if the Titans beat his mob if given the chance.
Or just a few Titans players beat him, on the field or in the street.

 

[Spacecub]

I'm in wauchope atm and not hearing a lot...what someone said warriors are meant to play Canberra next weekend...cant see the raiders being allowed to enter NZ....this is a absolute mess

 

[cochise]

The only difference between this and any other flu is there’s no flu shot , so we all just have to rely on our immune systems

Respectfully, that's not correct. This virus is many times more infectious than the flu which is why it has already reached pandemic status.

You only need to see the total country lockdowns, travel bans, America declaring a state of emergency and the global financial markets collapsing to understand this is far more than just a flu.

The predictions of the experts are concerning. Do the maths: 20% of the population will likely get the disease - that's 5 million Australians. 20% of those will need hospital treatment - that's 1 million people (we only have 140,000 hospital beds in Australia). 3% of those 5 million could die - that's 150,000 potential deaths. Our health systems and morgues could not cope.

And that friends, is why you shouldn't go to the football this week and why the government has been recklessly slow in implementing measures to stop the spread. They're only just realising how bad this is and my concern is we've shut the gate after the horse had bolted.

I had a friend who was in Wuhan when this broke. Whilst China were irresponsible in how the handled the initial outbreak, I was staggered by what he said the authoritarian government did when they realised what they were dealing with. Barbed wire around buildings, compulsory masks, forced isolation - that's why they're now reducing numbers.

I’m not debating any other that mate . You’re numbers are exaggerated though , but that’s semantics , and I get it , as it rams your point home .
I’m saying for the most part , stop the panicking , follow what the authorities have said , don’t go to public places , wash your hands etc.
And more than likely you’ll be fine .

People are acting crazy mate . 10 years ago in another life , I spent 9 months in a place most people, will never see . With threats all around you. We followe our due dilligence . Did our check but for the most part , went about our day as normal as we could .
Relaxing is not apathy or complacency. And it actually leads to more coherent and thought about decisions as you’re minimising the amount of emotion is influencing these decisions . That’s all I’m saying. The TP shortage is case in point . It’s embarrassing and honestly frightening, because of how feral everyone gets in a crisis .

The NSW Govt itself is predicting 1.2 -1.5 million NSWmen to get it

On those numbers 5-7 million Australians get it

If people think that 1.2 is all going to happen over a two week period and then all stop in that same 2 week window

How do you get to work .....do you go to the shops ...do your kids go to school ...do you have elderly parents or Grandparents who need help

When was the last time you were at hospital ...how long did you wait under normal conditions ......we could operate off power shedding ..you may lose power for up to 6 hours a day

I'm not worried for myself or my kids ....we will get through it .......but many of us have elderly parents / grandparents /friends etc ...if they get it they may not be lucky

What is happening in Italy could end up happening here ...write it off to your own possibly demise

If you’re not going to read what I wrote don’t reply to me ! None of what you said is at all relevant . I’m merely talking specifically about 1 thing . Panicking! And how it adds nothing and is actually counter intuitive.
Be vigilant , stay safe . But relax . That’s it. You want to quote numbers and statistics to prove your point . That’s fine . I just refuse to live life as glass half empty.
I know how I go in a true crisis . And I go alright . When I’m relaxed . When I’m heightened . I make poor decisions .
If you want to focus on the fact , you or someone you love has a less than 3% chance to die . That’s fine . I’d rather focus on the more likely 97% chance you’ll be fine .

Not relevant to you I guess ...relevant to many others


Not relevant to the point I’m making.
1. Relaxing is not “apathy” ie. not giving a crap or being lazy
2. Panicking and carrying on , actually makes things worse.
3. Follow all processes and protocols and you will , just by statistics , be more than likely fine .
4. If you think you or someone you love is not fine get em to the hospital .
Otherwise chill out and stop perpetuating drama . And that’s world wide. Be vigilant . Stay safe . Get on with it .

My point is you will probably be OK and so will I probably

How many elderly family members do you have if they get it are far greater risk

I know how many I have and if everyone rushes those family members to their local hospitals (as you suggested ) the hospital system will crash it barely copes day to day without any problems

And when the Hospital crash all the other problems will increase ....staph infections etc ....last June we ran out the tablets taken for staph infections nation wide .. so what happened ..our hospitals had to take those who didn't have access to tablets on to keep them on IV meds

So how does panicking solve that scenario ? Also you’re acting like it’s the Black Plague? As in like everyone is going to require ER ? So people have to share bedrooms . They have to sleep on stretchers . Defence force doctors are called in to cope with demand . What’s the problem ? You might have to limit your tv time . Maybe you’ll have to go for a drive to another hospital . At no point is that a time for panic .

I think you need to look at how many beds that we have nationally in ALL hospitals ...closest hospital is an 1 1/2 hours and is basically feeder hospital for CQ anyway Bundaberg is the feeder hospital for Wide Bay Burnett area

How many Army Doctors do we have ...how many hospitals do we have to deal with maybe 20 times the normal patient rate

I'm happy for you that you are relaxed ...but for many people they need to be ultra prepared and I don't think you or others that are talking this down should be doing so ...your talk is possibly causing issues for others

It was like the person the other day who was speaking as if they understood fully how the treatment for CV would work and the told people just go to the hospital ......when they are telling ANYONE who think they have the virus to ring their local surgery / hospital 1st

I want to be prepared for the worst case scenario and don't know how I would cope if I brought the virus home and it effected anyone around me

You need to also look at how people with an alarmist attitude towards this effect other people also. No one here is saying that this is not a serious issue, a lot of people are going to die, but I am not one to live my life in fear! I will follow all recommendations and precautions from the people who know what they are talking about and I will continue to live my life and try not to overly stress myself or those around me over the unknown that may happen!

 

[bythebeardofzeus]

What exactly are people calling “panic”. The only thing I see is the individuals buying too much toilet paper.

Yes panic buying. Getting upset and violent over stock. It's not everyone and the violence is especially contained to a small amount of people, but it has a larger societal / cultural impact when some folks are willing to start fights over toilet paper. It when from being laughable to semi-serious.

Even less about the toilet paper, more about the food hoarding - flour, pasta, rice. Some people think this acceptable and appropriate, to be prepared for - for what I don't know, for the apparent lack of absence of food in shops, or inability to get to shops or receive supplies. I said before, it's not a flood or bushfire, there's nothing physical stopping you right now from driving down to the shops, just in some food stocks they are without.

And my main concern is the escalation, first toilet paper, then pasta and rice... it doesn't take much more of a step for people to ramp up the panic, given that panic begets panic, and next there's no canned foods, no cereal, no biscuits. Maybe all this calms down of its own, or maybe people choose the "next thing" to panic-purchase. E.g. first toilet paper was hard to come by, then by close proximity, tissues and paper towels.

The escalation should not have gone as far as toilet paper or rice in the first place, if everyone kept their heads. You should not have to visit 5 stores to get some paper, or a packet of pasta. Under normal circumstances, you could buy toilet paper or pasta at any shop in Australia, under average consumption, but there is hardly any to be had. That part of people's reactions is serious, more serious than being asked to consider staying home more often than you normally would.

Pies...?

Just on that note, a community announcement for those who love their pies. The Herbert Adams 2-packs (which normally retail for $7) are down to only $3.75 at Coles. Easily my favourite supermarket pies, real gourmet stuff.

There you go, doing my bit for humanity.

(Go Tigers ??)

 

[cochise]

What exactly are people calling "panic". The only thing I see is the individuals buying too much toilet paper.

Nothing I've said suggests panic. I agree with the ban on mass gatherings and think they should have made the decision earlier and broader. I also believe we should avoid public transport and support the social distancing which has been recommended.

Glass half full thinking is not "I'm going to the footy because I'm young and it won't affect me". That's blind to the real threat which is not the severity of the virus, it's how infectious it is. It will overwhelm any health system if it spreads, we know because it's already happened overseas.

I can't believe it's even a point of debate whether we attend a footy game vs protecting the country's vulnerable. It's not panic or "not Staying Calm", it's simple commonsense.

Yes but the advice is it is ok to attend a football game due to the still very low community spread of the virus!

 

[Fade.To.Black]

What exactly are people calling “panic”. The only thing I see is the individuals buying too much toilet paper.

Yes panic buying. Getting upset and violent over stock. It's not everyone and the violence is especially contained to a small amount of people, but it has a larger societal / cultural impact when some folks are willing to start fights over toilet paper. It when from being laughable to semi-serious.

Even less about the toilet paper, more about the food hoarding - flour, pasta, rice. Some people think this acceptable and appropriate, to be prepared for - for what I don't know, for the apparent lack of absence of food in shops, or inability to get to shops or receive supplies. I said before, it's not a flood or bushfire, there's nothing physical stopping you right now from driving down to the shops, just in some food stocks they are without.

And my main concern is the escalation, first toilet paper, then pasta and rice... it doesn't take much more of a step for people to ramp up the panic, given that panic begets panic, and next there's no canned foods, no cereal, no biscuits. Maybe all this calms down of its own, or maybe people choose the "next thing" to panic-purchase. E.g. first toilet paper was hard to come by, then by close proximity, tissues and paper towels.

The escalation should not have gone as far as toilet paper or rice in the first place, if everyone kept their heads. You should not have to visit 5 stores to get some paper, or a packet of pasta. Under normal circumstances, you could buy toilet paper or pasta at any shop in Australia, under average consumption, but there is hardly any to be had. That part of people's reactions is serious, more serious than being asked to consider staying home more often than you normally would.

Pies...?

Just on that note, a community announcement for those who love their pies. The Herbert Adams 2-packs (which normally retail for $7) are down to only $3.75 at Coles. Easily my favourite supermarket pies, real gourmet stuff.

There you go, doing my bit for humanity.

(Go Tigers ??)

Nice! Back the refrigerated truck up to the loading bay at Coles, fill it up and put a couple of mounted machine guns on the roof to stave off marauders! All set?

 

[Scare]

Corona schmona don’t stop the footy

 

[Harvey]

They should just expose all NRL players to the virus, they will then be immune & we can restart the season in a month.

 

[hobbo1]

They should just expose all NRL players to the virus, they will then be immune & we can restart the season in a month.

I posted the same earlier ...
Corona cup 🏆

 

[Tim Sheens]

What exactly are people calling "panic". The only thing I see is the individuals buying too much toilet paper.

Nothing I've said suggests panic. I agree with the ban on mass gatherings and think they should have made the decision earlier and broader. I also believe we should avoid public transport and support the social distancing which has been recommended.

Glass half full thinking is not "I'm going to the footy because I'm young and it won't affect me". That's blind to the real threat which is not the severity of the virus, it's how infectious it is. It will overwhelm any health system if it spreads, we know because it's already happened overseas.

I can't believe it's even a point of debate whether we attend a footy game vs protecting the country's vulnerable. It's not panic or "not Staying Calm", it's simple commonsense.

Yes but the advice is it is ok to attend a football game due to the still very low community spread of the virus!

Or God through Brian loudly in his ear pushed for Scotty to kerp the faith and delay it until Monday.


Sarcasm, but could be real.

 

[cochise]

What exactly are people calling "panic". The only thing I see is the individuals buying too much toilet paper.

Nothing I've said suggests panic. I agree with the ban on mass gatherings and think they should have made the decision earlier and broader. I also believe we should avoid public transport and support the social distancing which has been recommended.

Glass half full thinking is not "I'm going to the footy because I'm young and it won't affect me". That's blind to the real threat which is not the severity of the virus, it's how infectious it is. It will overwhelm any health system if it spreads, we know because it's already happened overseas.

I can't believe it's even a point of debate whether we attend a footy game vs protecting the country's vulnerable. It's not panic or "not Staying Calm", it's simple commonsense.

Yes but the advice is it is ok to attend a football game due to the still very low community spread of the virus!

Or God through Brian loudly in his ear pushed for Scotty to kerp the faith and delay it until Monday.


Sarcasm, but could be real.

Highly doubt it after the trouble he had with the bush fires!

 

[Tim Sheens]

What exactly are people calling "panic". The only thing I see is the individuals buying too much toilet paper.

Nothing I've said suggests panic. I agree with the ban on mass gatherings and think they should have made the decision earlier and broader. I also believe we should avoid public transport and support the social distancing which has been recommended.

Glass half full thinking is not "I'm going to the footy because I'm young and it won't affect me". That's blind to the real threat which is not the severity of the virus, it's how infectious it is. It will overwhelm any health system if it spreads, we know because it's already happened overseas.

I can't believe it's even a point of debate whether we attend a footy game vs protecting the country's vulnerable. It's not panic or "not Staying Calm", it's simple commonsense.

Yes but the advice is it is ok to attend a football game due to the still very low community spread of the virus!

Or God through Brian loudly in his ear pushed for Scotty to kerp the faith and delay it until Monday.


Sarcasm, but could be real.

Highly doubt it after the trouble he had with the bush fires!

Which is why I wrote "Sarcasm . .", but nothing surprises me where greed and this guy is involved.

 

[JRDee]

If they play next weekend without crowds , how will the refs know when to give a penalty for inside the 10 without the crowd yelling “booooooo”

 

[Coastie_Tiger]

With the warriors situation I can’t really see that as being viable for months on end them staying in Australia. I think it may end up being a suspension and maybe a shortening of the season in a couple of months time. The A league would have a similar situation with the Wellington team but their season is 3/4 finish almost, so not as much upheaval to get that done.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

With the warriors situation I can’t really see that as being viable for months on end them staying in Australia. I think it may end up being a suspension and maybe a shortening of the season in a couple of months time. The A league would have a similar situation with the Wellington team but their season is 3/4 finish almost, so not as much upheaval to get that done.

They only have 21 players over here. What happens if they get injuries? Are players allowed to fly over? I’d say Super Rugby is screwed.

 

[weststigers]

The only difference between this and any other flu is there’s no flu shot , so we all just have to rely on our immune systems

Respectfully, that's not correct. This virus is many times more infectious than the flu which is why it has already reached pandemic status.

You only need to see the total country lockdowns, travel bans, America declaring a state of emergency and the global financial markets collapsing to understand this is far more than just a flu.

The predictions of the experts are concerning. Do the maths: 20% of the population will likely get the disease - that's 5 million Australians. 20% of those will need hospital treatment - that's 1 million people (we only have 140,000 hospital beds in Australia). 3% of those 5 million could die - that's 150,000 potential deaths. Our health systems and morgues could not cope.

And that friends, is why you shouldn't go to the football this week and why the government has been recklessly slow in implementing measures to stop the spread. They're only just realising how bad this is and my concern is we've shut the gate after the horse had bolted.

I had a friend who was in Wuhan when this broke. Whilst China were irresponsible in how the handled the initial outbreak, I was staggered by what he said the authoritarian government did when they realised what they were dealing with. Barbed wire around buildings, compulsory masks, forced isolation - that's why they're now reducing numbers.

I’m not debating any other that mate . You’re numbers are exaggerated though , but that’s semantics , and I get it , as it rams your point home .
I’m saying for the most part , stop the panicking , follow what the authorities have said , don’t go to public places , wash your hands etc.
And more than likely you’ll be fine .

People are acting crazy mate . 10 years ago in another life , I spent 9 months in a place most people, will never see . With threats all around you. We followe our due dilligence . Did our check but for the most part , went about our day as normal as we could .
Relaxing is not apathy or complacency. And it actually leads to more coherent and thought about decisions as you’re minimising the amount of emotion is influencing these decisions . That’s all I’m saying. The TP shortage is case in point . It’s embarrassing and honestly frightening, because of how feral everyone gets in a crisis .

The NSW Govt itself is predicting 1.2 -1.5 million NSWmen to get it

On those numbers 5-7 million Australians get it

If people think that 1.2 is all going to happen over a two week period and then all stop in that same 2 week window

How do you get to work .....do you go to the shops ...do your kids go to school ...do you have elderly parents or Grandparents who need help

When was the last time you were at hospital ...how long did you wait under normal conditions ......we could operate off power shedding ..you may lose power for up to 6 hours a day

I'm not worried for myself or my kids ....we will get through it .......but many of us have elderly parents / grandparents /friends etc ...if they get it they may not be lucky

What is happening in Italy could end up happening here ...write it off to your own possibly demise

If you’re not going to read what I wrote don’t reply to me ! None of what you said is at all relevant . I’m merely talking specifically about 1 thing . Panicking! And how it adds nothing and is actually counter intuitive.
Be vigilant , stay safe . But relax . That’s it. You want to quote numbers and statistics to prove your point . That’s fine . I just refuse to live life as glass half empty.
I know how I go in a true crisis . And I go alright . When I’m relaxed . When I’m heightened . I make poor decisions .
If you want to focus on the fact , you or someone you love has a less than 3% chance to die . That’s fine . I’d rather focus on the more likely 97% chance you’ll be fine .

Not relevant to you I guess ...relevant to many others


Not relevant to the point I’m making.
1. Relaxing is not “apathy” ie. not giving a crap or being lazy
2. Panicking and carrying on , actually makes things worse.
3. Follow all processes and protocols and you will , just by statistics , be more than likely fine .
4. If you think you or someone you love is not fine get em to the hospital .
Otherwise chill out and stop perpetuating drama . And that’s world wide. Be vigilant . Stay safe . Get on with it .

My point is you will probably be OK and so will I probably

How many elderly family members do you have if they get it are far greater risk

I know how many I have and if everyone rushes those family members to their local hospitals (as you suggested ) the hospital system will crash it barely copes day to day without any problems

And when the Hospital crash all the other problems will increase ....staph infections etc ....last June we ran out the tablets taken for staph infections nation wide .. so what happened ..our hospitals had to take those who didn't have access to tablets on to keep them on IV meds

So how does panicking solve that scenario ? Also you’re acting like it’s the Black Plague? As in like everyone is going to require ER ? So people have to share bedrooms . They have to sleep on stretchers . Defence force doctors are called in to cope with demand . What’s the problem ? You might have to limit your tv time . Maybe you’ll have to go for a drive to another hospital . At no point is that a time for panic .

Let’s assume happy is super calm and totally relaxed...is the answer that if our hospitals are overflowing and he’s run out of medication that the ADF will step in?

What happens after the ADF run out of resources...assuming no one has panicked yet...what’s next?

 

[TYGA]

The Corona impact is huge. I believe the virus impact is overstated through media and social
Media as I can’t remember this during the 2009 pandemic. The world has changed for the worse in terms of resilience.

The league like NBA, EPL and other leagues has to shut down they will get a case and then it will happen anyway. If the league shuts and there are no games to broadcast, no stories to write and no advertising space to sell it will bankrupt poorly run and financed sports. Sadly this is what the NRL is they can’t withstand the impact of a season shut down.

The reality is if no games are on for a sustained period the game will not get revenue and the players have no game to play and won’t be paid.
I suspect this will end in a month but it will shut down for certain. There would be close to 1000 or more players, support staff and trainers if no one gets corona it would be a miracle.

 

[swag_tiger]

Hearing majority of the Warriors squad have decided to stay in Australia.

 

[JD Tiger]

Perhaps the biggest problem, is the fox tv deal. Fox have paid billions of dollars for the rights to so many games per week, each week of the season.

What happens when NRL is suspended for a few weeks, or a few months, or most or even all of the season... does Fox just lose that money? Or do they take NRL to court and duke it out there? In Court usually the bigger fish wins, which is Fox.

Anyone know what the media companies are doing with the American sports, could this be an issue, or not?

 

[the_third]

Perhaps the biggest problem, is the fox tv deal. Fox have paid billions of dollars for the rights to so many games per week, each week of the season.

What happens when NRL is suspended for a few weeks, or a few months, or most or even all of the season... does Fox just lose that money? Or do they take NRL to court and duke it out there? In Court usually the bigger fish wins, which is Fox.

Anyone know what the media companies are doing with the American sports, could this be an issue, or not?

Lol it’s not billions, but it’s a massive issue. It’s like your membership - you pay and can’t go, you want your money back. You sponsor something and it’s not delivered, you want your money back. No one is a charity, it’s So,ple contract law

It’s not a fox thing it’s a federal govt thing and they usually win.

Hopefully the tigers, Fox and the nrl Have the right insurances in place so I don’t lose out.

Put the tinfoil caps away people and go buy some toilet paper