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@Strongee said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145167) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145154) said:
Someone mentioned Vitamin B ...where has anyone in all of this been told we can't exercise .....or even sunbathe in your back yard

People don’t have backyards mate . And many are listening to the media , agenda driven panic merchants , who just want to drive hysteria for the clicks .
So many people , especially woman , who IMO have an already in built , genetic flight response , just are hiding inside .
To dismiss this , is naive at best. Many people are too scared to go outside at all , which like you said is over reacting , but it’s still happening.
Until the general consensus is lift the restrictions , these types , which due to some mental health issues in my family recently , Im starting to be more aware of , are really at risk.
And as the majority of our nation live in cities , and the general isolation , people tend to feel in the biggest cities , this is a huge issue.
Domestic violence , alchohol use , online gambling , are through the roof. This isn’t good , as a potential on going social issue post COVID.

I agree with a lot of this post mate, in fact I know the effects this is having on my own mental health and have been open about that on here. I don't really see the alternative though, those stats from overseas people are raising are very relevant because we were on the same trajectory before we implemented these restrictions. Without these restrictions a lot of people would have died, I can't put my mental health over the lives of others. I have accepted that during this time I'm going to really struggle but I am very willing to do that to save the lives of others.

I don't want you to not post because you feel this is an echo chamber, I like differing opinions but I will stand up for what I believe in and call out opinions that I think are wrong or dangerous!
 
@Strongee said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145185) said:
@formerguest said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145180) said:
@Strongee said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145167) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145154) said:
Someone mentioned Vitamin B ...where has anyone in all of this been told we can't exercise .....or even sunbathe in your back yard

People don’t have backyards mate . And many are listening to the media , agenda driven panic merchants , who just want to drive hysteria for the clicks .
So many people , especially woman , who IMO have an already in built , genetic flight response , just are hiding inside .
To dismiss this , is naive at best. Many people are too scared to go outside at all , which like you said is over reacting , but it’s still happening.
Until the general consensus is lift the restrictions , these types , which due to some mental health issues in my family recently , Im starting to be more aware of , are really at risk.
And as the majority of our nation live in cities , and the general isolation , people tend to feel in the biggest cities , this is a huge issue.
Domestic violence , alchohol use , online gambling , are through the roof. This isn’t good , as a potential on going social issue post COVID.

I agree, there are many bad things as a result of restrictions, but the alternatives are worse and today being ANZAC day, it reminds us of who is most likely to be affected by this. Both by solitude for recent service personnel and if we don't continue social distancing on a suitable scale as things improve, those that served in Vietnam, Korea etcetera and the children that grew up in the second world war, along with the few remaining survivors of that conflict, it often means direct death.

I am surrounded with the mental health issues you alluded to at home and helping out my very affected sister daily, so I completely understand your concerns, but I am not willing to sacrifice my parents, along with their generation and similar others for the sake of more freedoms.

Mate , I’m 1 of those people . 3 people I served with topped themselves in the last 3 months.
And there’s are at least another 2 , we are really concerned about , as they won’t answer calls and no one knows exactly where they live , since this kicked off.
There were over 3000 deaths in 2019 from suicide , just knowing from the conversations I’ve had , we all just want support and feel like there’s none out there. VVCS is a joke , and the waiting list now is like 6 months just to get a call back.
I didn’t want to talk about this directly , but I am so concerned about days like today , hence my posting today. And that’s just returned serviceman.
There’s so many vulnerable people , out there who can’t just “go sit on their balcony”
The cure can’t be worse than the cause.

Yes the cure can be worse than cause, but what is our alternative at the moment? We can't go with business as usual, I agree that this is extremely tough on people with mental illness and my heart goes out to them. I just don't know what the alternative is!
 
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145184) said:
@Strongee said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145176) said:
@Geo said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145171) said:
@Strongee said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145170) said:
@Geo said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145158) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145154) said:
Someone mentioned Vitamin B ...where has anyone in all of this been told we can't exercise .....or even sunbathe in your back yard

Maybe because the best Vitamin source from the sun is D not B..If you want Vitamin B eat a Banana..

Back to Medical School for you..

Good stuff mate , you got me on a minor technicality , I wrote at 12 last night, after a few beers.

This is exactly what I was talking about . The gotcha , I’m better than you , arrogance , many of you on here , are carrying on about , does my head in. And it’s also a reflection of what’s going on out there.

Your panic merchants in your bubble , quoting statistics from the other side of the world to back up your argument.
Even when I point out , how isolation affects people , you arrogantly say this like “stay on your balcony “ .
Disgusting. Self absorbed , and actually dismissing my point because it contradicts the obvious echo chamber you are in . You should be ashamed of yourselves .

I think you may have miss quoted here..don't see where I said anything about isolation or echo chambers..merely pointed out the sun is not a source of Vitamin B..

No your being condescending , because I wrote the wrong letter , when it’s clear I was talking About the huge affects of lack of Vitamin D . Biggest one I’ve watched from my son is cabin fever .A boy who begged me to body board and swim , and bike ride every day after school , is now too afraid to leave our backyard. Sure he has autism, but that’s not unusual anymore either.
People like @happytiger who don’t care about anything outside of themselves and their bubble bother me. I haven’t posted on this in weeks , because every time I read , it’s the same people circle jerking each other about how right they were , because the US is a death pit and here isn’t.
That’s my 2 cents , I’ll leave you guys be, as I’m sure it’s really hard to hear someone just offer an alternative view , as it might mean you have to think about things differently.

Firstly you said you didn't have a backyard .....

2ndly I have been on here from day dot angry about the early actions of the youth that created the complete lockdowns that caused many hundreds of thousands losing their jobs

As for your and your son's misfortune , I can't possibly understand where you are coming from having never dealt with autism as a parent but I pray both your situations improve dramatically asap

I didn’t say that . I said people don’t have backyards . Because unlike you , I have empathy for other people not just spewing crap religious rubbish like “I’ll pray for you”.
Every life is worth the same . Covid is a bullet to the chest . Suicide , mental health , Vitamin D deficiencies etc are one to the back of the head .
This is my whole argument.
 
@Strongee said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145190) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145184) said:
@Strongee said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145176) said:
@Geo said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145171) said:
@Strongee said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145170) said:
@Geo said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145158) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145154) said:
Someone mentioned Vitamin B ...where has anyone in all of this been told we can't exercise .....or even sunbathe in your back yard

Maybe because the best Vitamin source from the sun is D not B..If you want Vitamin B eat a Banana..

Back to Medical School for you..

Good stuff mate , you got me on a minor technicality , I wrote at 12 last night, after a few beers.

This is exactly what I was talking about . The gotcha , I’m better than you , arrogance , many of you on here , are carrying on about , does my head in. And it’s also a reflection of what’s going on out there.

Your panic merchants in your bubble , quoting statistics from the other side of the world to back up your argument.
Even when I point out , how isolation affects people , you arrogantly say this like “stay on your balcony “ .
Disgusting. Self absorbed , and actually dismissing my point because it contradicts the obvious echo chamber you are in . You should be ashamed of yourselves .

I think you may have miss quoted here..don't see where I said anything about isolation or echo chambers..merely pointed out the sun is not a source of Vitamin B..

No your being condescending , because I wrote the wrong letter , when it’s clear I was talking About the huge affects of lack of Vitamin D . Biggest one I’ve watched from my son is cabin fever .A boy who begged me to body board and swim , and bike ride every day after school , is now too afraid to leave our backyard. Sure he has autism, but that’s not unusual anymore either.
People like @happytiger who don’t care about anything outside of themselves and their bubble bother me. I haven’t posted on this in weeks , because every time I read , it’s the same people circle jerking each other about how right they were , because the US is a death pit and here isn’t.
That’s my 2 cents , I’ll leave you guys be, as I’m sure it’s really hard to hear someone just offer an alternative view , as it might mean you have to think about things differently.

Firstly you said you didn't have a backyard .....

2ndly I have been on here from day dot angry about the early actions of the youth that created the complete lockdowns that caused many hundreds of thousands losing their jobs

As for your and your son's misfortune , I can't possibly understand where you are coming from having never dealt with autism as a parent but I pray both your situations improve dramatically asap

I didn’t say that . I said people don’t have backyards . Because unlike you , I have empathy for other people not just spewing crap religious rubbish like “I’ll pray for you”.
Every life is worth the same . Covid is a bullet to the chest . Suicide , mental health , Vitamin D deficiencies etc are one to the back of the head .
This is my whole argument.

Both bullets are killers though, and at the moment it is hard to fight both because the decisions you make to positively effect one have a negative effect on the other.

We can throw money at mental health atm but that is not going to help everyone. It really is a tough situation to deal with and we are really on a knifes edge of dealing with covid, while balancing out the needs of the economy, mental health and general wellbeing issues that this is causing as well!
 
@Strongee said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145190) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145184) said:
@Strongee said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145176) said:
@Geo said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145171) said:
@Strongee said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145170) said:
@Geo said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145158) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145154) said:
Someone mentioned Vitamin B ...where has anyone in all of this been told we can't exercise .....or even sunbathe in your back yard

Maybe because the best Vitamin source from the sun is D not B..If you want Vitamin B eat a Banana..

Back to Medical School for you..

Good stuff mate , you got me on a minor technicality , I wrote at 12 last night, after a few beers.

This is exactly what I was talking about . The gotcha , I’m better than you , arrogance , many of you on here , are carrying on about , does my head in. And it’s also a reflection of what’s going on out there.

Your panic merchants in your bubble , quoting statistics from the other side of the world to back up your argument.
Even when I point out , how isolation affects people , you arrogantly say this like “stay on your balcony “ .
Disgusting. Self absorbed , and actually dismissing my point because it contradicts the obvious echo chamber you are in . You should be ashamed of yourselves .

I think you may have miss quoted here..don't see where I said anything about isolation or echo chambers..merely pointed out the sun is not a source of Vitamin B..

No your being condescending , because I wrote the wrong letter , when it’s clear I was talking About the huge affects of lack of Vitamin D . Biggest one I’ve watched from my son is cabin fever .A boy who begged me to body board and swim , and bike ride every day after school , is now too afraid to leave our backyard. Sure he has autism, but that’s not unusual anymore either.
People like @happytiger who don’t care about anything outside of themselves and their bubble bother me. I haven’t posted on this in weeks , because every time I read , it’s the same people circle jerking each other about how right they were , because the US is a death pit and here isn’t.
That’s my 2 cents , I’ll leave you guys be, as I’m sure it’s really hard to hear someone just offer an alternative view , as it might mean you have to think about things differently.

Firstly you said you didn't have a backyard .....

2ndly I have been on here from day dot angry about the early actions of the youth that created the complete lockdowns that caused many hundreds of thousands losing their jobs

As for your and your son's misfortune , I can't possibly understand where you are coming from having never dealt with autism as a parent but I pray both your situations improve dramatically asap

I didn’t say that . I said people don’t have backyards . Because unlike you , I have empathy for other people not just spewing crap religious rubbish like “I’ll pray for you”.
Every life is worth the same . Covid is a bullet to the chest . Suicide , mental health , Vitamin D deficiencies etc are one to the back of the head .
This is my whole argument.

And if ANYONE feels like that they should talk to someone ...but your suggesting that no one can go out

As for the rest I'll let it slide outside the off stump ....all this is having an effect on everyone ..obviously harder on some
 
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145187) said:
@Strongee said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145185) said:
@formerguest said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145180) said:
@Strongee said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145167) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145154) said:
Someone mentioned Vitamin B ...where has anyone in all of this been told we can't exercise .....or even sunbathe in your back yard

People don’t have backyards mate . And many are listening to the media , agenda driven panic merchants , who just want to drive hysteria for the clicks .
So many people , especially woman , who IMO have an already in built , genetic flight response , just are hiding inside .
To dismiss this , is naive at best. Many people are too scared to go outside at all , which like you said is over reacting , but it’s still happening.
Until the general consensus is lift the restrictions , these types , which due to some mental health issues in my family recently , Im starting to be more aware of , are really at risk.
And as the majority of our nation live in cities , and the general isolation , people tend to feel in the biggest cities , this is a huge issue.
Domestic violence , alchohol use , online gambling , are through the roof. This isn’t good , as a potential on going social issue post COVID.

I agree, there are many bad things as a result of restrictions, but the alternatives are worse and today being ANZAC day, it reminds us of who is most likely to be affected by this. Both by solitude for recent service personnel and if we don't continue social distancing on a suitable scale as things improve, those that served in Vietnam, Korea etcetera and the children that grew up in the second world war, along with the few remaining survivors of that conflict, it often means direct death.

I am surrounded with the mental health issues you alluded to at home and helping out my very affected sister daily, so I completely understand your concerns, but I am not willing to sacrifice my parents, along with their generation and similar others for the sake of more freedoms.

Mate , I’m 1 of those people . 3 people I served with topped themselves in the last 3 months.
And there’s are at least another 2 , we are really concerned about , as they won’t answer calls and no one knows exactly where they live , since this kicked off.
There were over 3000 deaths in 2019 from suicide , just knowing from the conversations I’ve had , we all just want support and feel like there’s none out there. VVCS is a joke , and the waiting list now is like 6 months just to get a call back.
I didn’t want to talk about this directly , but I am so concerned about days like today , hence my posting today. And that’s just returned serviceman.
There’s so many vulnerable people , out there who can’t just “go sit on their balcony”
The cure can’t be worse than the cause.

Yes the cure can be worse than cause, but what is our alternative at the moment? We can't go with business as usual, I agree that this is extremely tough on people with mental illness and my heart goes out to them. I just don't know what the alternative is!

Not for them , covid doesn’t target young , fit , men. So there’s minimal risk to them . The cure increases their risk . This is my point . Suicide at the moment in Australia is infinitely worse
 
@Strongee said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145195) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145187) said:
@Strongee said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145185) said:
@formerguest said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145180) said:
@Strongee said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145167) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145154) said:
Someone mentioned Vitamin B ...where has anyone in all of this been told we can't exercise .....or even sunbathe in your back yard

People don’t have backyards mate . And many are listening to the media , agenda driven panic merchants , who just want to drive hysteria for the clicks .
So many people , especially woman , who IMO have an already in built , genetic flight response , just are hiding inside .
To dismiss this , is naive at best. Many people are too scared to go outside at all , which like you said is over reacting , but it’s still happening.
Until the general consensus is lift the restrictions , these types , which due to some mental health issues in my family recently , Im starting to be more aware of , are really at risk.
And as the majority of our nation live in cities , and the general isolation , people tend to feel in the biggest cities , this is a huge issue.
Domestic violence , alchohol use , online gambling , are through the roof. This isn’t good , as a potential on going social issue post COVID.

I agree, there are many bad things as a result of restrictions, but the alternatives are worse and today being ANZAC day, it reminds us of who is most likely to be affected by this. Both by solitude for recent service personnel and if we don't continue social distancing on a suitable scale as things improve, those that served in Vietnam, Korea etcetera and the children that grew up in the second world war, along with the few remaining survivors of that conflict, it often means direct death.

I am surrounded with the mental health issues you alluded to at home and helping out my very affected sister daily, so I completely understand your concerns, but I am not willing to sacrifice my parents, along with their generation and similar others for the sake of more freedoms.

Mate , I’m 1 of those people . 3 people I served with topped themselves in the last 3 months.
And there’s are at least another 2 , we are really concerned about , as they won’t answer calls and no one knows exactly where they live , since this kicked off.
There were over 3000 deaths in 2019 from suicide , just knowing from the conversations I’ve had , we all just want support and feel like there’s none out there. VVCS is a joke , and the waiting list now is like 6 months just to get a call back.
I didn’t want to talk about this directly , but I am so concerned about days like today , hence my posting today. And that’s just returned serviceman.
There’s so many vulnerable people , out there who can’t just “go sit on their balcony”
The cure can’t be worse than the cause.

Yes the cure can be worse than cause, but what is our alternative at the moment? We can't go with business as usual, I agree that this is extremely tough on people with mental illness and my heart goes out to them. I just don't know what the alternative is!

Not for them , covid doesn’t target young , fit , men. So there’s minimal risk to them . The cure increases their risk . This is my point . Suicide at the moment in Australia is infinitely worse

So you are only concerned about the young and fit? Not trying to be smart, just don't understand your post.
 
@Strongee said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145195) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145187) said:
@Strongee said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145185) said:
@formerguest said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145180) said:
@Strongee said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145167) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145154) said:
Someone mentioned Vitamin B ...where has anyone in all of this been told we can't exercise .....or even sunbathe in your back yard

People don’t have backyards mate . And many are listening to the media , agenda driven panic merchants , who just want to drive hysteria for the clicks .
So many people , especially woman , who IMO have an already in built , genetic flight response , just are hiding inside .
To dismiss this , is naive at best. Many people are too scared to go outside at all , which like you said is over reacting , but it’s still happening.
Until the general consensus is lift the restrictions , these types , which due to some mental health issues in my family recently , Im starting to be more aware of , are really at risk.
And as the majority of our nation live in cities , and the general isolation , people tend to feel in the biggest cities , this is a huge issue.
Domestic violence , alchohol use , online gambling , are through the roof. This isn’t good , as a potential on going social issue post COVID.

I agree, there are many bad things as a result of restrictions, but the alternatives are worse and today being ANZAC day, it reminds us of who is most likely to be affected by this. Both by solitude for recent service personnel and if we don't continue social distancing on a suitable scale as things improve, those that served in Vietnam, Korea etcetera and the children that grew up in the second world war, along with the few remaining survivors of that conflict, it often means direct death.

I am surrounded with the mental health issues you alluded to at home and helping out my very affected sister daily, so I completely understand your concerns, but I am not willing to sacrifice my parents, along with their generation and similar others for the sake of more freedoms.

Mate , I’m 1 of those people . 3 people I served with topped themselves in the last 3 months.
And there’s are at least another 2 , we are really concerned about , as they won’t answer calls and no one knows exactly where they live , since this kicked off.
There were over 3000 deaths in 2019 from suicide , just knowing from the conversations I’ve had , we all just want support and feel like there’s none out there. VVCS is a joke , and the waiting list now is like 6 months just to get a call back.
I didn’t want to talk about this directly , but I am so concerned about days like today , hence my posting today. And that’s just returned serviceman.
There’s so many vulnerable people , out there who can’t just “go sit on their balcony”
The cure can’t be worse than the cause.

Yes the cure can be worse than cause, but what is our alternative at the moment? We can't go with business as usual, I agree that this is extremely tough on people with mental illness and my heart goes out to them. I just don't know what the alternative is!

Not for them , covid doesn’t target young , fit , men. So there’s minimal risk to them . The cure increases their risk . This is my point . Suicide at the moment in Australia is infinitely worse

I will also say that stats from overseas have shown that a lot of younger people are dying due to covid once the health system gets overwhelmed!
 
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145144) said:
Donald Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon is practically telling people to Poison themselves.

His political team are probably rubbing their heads in hand saying more votes gone
 
@Strongee said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145185) said:
@formerguest said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145180) said:
@Strongee said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145167) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145154) said:
Someone mentioned Vitamin B ...where has anyone in all of this been told we can't exercise .....or even sunbathe in your back yard

People don’t have backyards mate . And many are listening to the media , agenda driven panic merchants , who just want to drive hysteria for the clicks .
So many people , especially woman , who IMO have an already in built , genetic flight response , just are hiding inside .
To dismiss this , is naive at best. Many people are too scared to go outside at all , which like you said is over reacting , but it’s still happening.
Until the general consensus is lift the restrictions , these types , which due to some mental health issues in my family recently , Im starting to be more aware of , are really at risk.
And as the majority of our nation live in cities , and the general isolation , people tend to feel in the biggest cities , this is a huge issue.
Domestic violence , alchohol use , online gambling , are through the roof. This isn’t good , as a potential on going social issue post COVID.

I agree, there are many bad things as a result of restrictions, but the alternatives are worse and today being ANZAC day, it reminds us of who is most likely to be affected by this. Both by solitude for recent service personnel and if we don't continue social distancing on a suitable scale as things improve, those that served in Vietnam, Korea etcetera and the children that grew up in the second world war, along with the few remaining survivors of that conflict, it often means direct death.

I am surrounded with the mental health issues you alluded to at home and helping out my very affected sister daily, so I completely understand your concerns, but I am not willing to sacrifice my parents, along with their generation and similar others for the sake of more freedoms.

Mate , I’m 1 of those people . 3 people I served with topped themselves in the last 3 months.
And there’s are at least another 2 , we are really concerned about , as they won’t answer calls and no one knows exactly where they live , since this kicked off.
There were over 3000 deaths in 2019 from suicide , just knowing from the conversations I’ve had , we all just want support and feel like there’s none out there. VVCS is a joke , and the waiting list now is like 6 months just to get a call back.
I didn’t want to talk about this directly , but I am so concerned about days like today , hence my posting today. And that’s just returned serviceman.
There’s so many vulnerable people , out there who can’t just “go sit on their balcony”
The cure can’t be worse than the cause.

Thanks for sharing, as I understand that it is often hard to, having a friend that still suffers from his service demons decades on. We as a community, overall and through our nation's approach, whilst better than some, treat our veterans poorly and especially so with lack of mental health support.

Like I wrote earlier and pertinent as balconies have become part of the recent discussion, in regards to people getting out on them and clapping for the true workers of society. Sure, nice to give them some praise and no doubt it is uplifting for them, but it is hollow if not followed through by forcing political change to look after them in commensurate manner.

Time to stop this small government bs and actually look after our community, with some of your former comrades also amongst the potential thousands of lives lost due to extra pressure of the Robodebt debacle, whilst tax cuts are dished up to those that don't need them at the expense of necessary services such as caring for our returned service personnel.
 
@Strongee said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145185) said:
@formerguest said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145180) said:
@Strongee said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145167) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145154) said:
Someone mentioned Vitamin B ...where has anyone in all of this been told we can't exercise .....or even sunbathe in your back yard

People don’t have backyards mate . And many are listening to the media , agenda driven panic merchants , who just want to drive hysteria for the clicks .
So many people , especially woman , who IMO have an already in built , genetic flight response , just are hiding inside .
To dismiss this , is naive at best. Many people are too scared to go outside at all , which like you said is over reacting , but it’s still happening.
Until the general consensus is lift the restrictions , these types , which due to some mental health issues in my family recently , Im starting to be more aware of , are really at risk.
And as the majority of our nation live in cities , and the general isolation , people tend to feel in the biggest cities , this is a huge issue.
Domestic violence , alchohol use , online gambling , are through the roof. This isn’t good , as a potential on going social issue post COVID.

I agree, there are many bad things as a result of restrictions, but the alternatives are worse and today being ANZAC day, it reminds us of who is most likely to be affected by this. Both by solitude for recent service personnel and if we don't continue social distancing on a suitable scale as things improve, those that served in Vietnam, Korea etcetera and the children that grew up in the second world war, along with the few remaining survivors of that conflict, it often means direct death.

I am surrounded with the mental health issues you alluded to at home and helping out my very affected sister daily, so I completely understand your concerns, but I am not willing to sacrifice my parents, along with their generation and similar others for the sake of more freedoms.

Mate , I’m 1 of those people . 3 people I served with topped themselves in the last 3 months.
And there’s are at least another 2 , we are really concerned about , as they won’t answer calls and no one knows exactly where they live , since this kicked off.
There were over 3000 deaths in 2019 from suicide , just knowing from the conversations I’ve had , we all just want support and feel like there’s none out there. VVCS is a joke , and the waiting list now is like 6 months just to get a call back.
I didn’t want to talk about this directly , but I am so concerned about days like today , hence my posting today. And that’s just returned serviceman.
There’s so many vulnerable people , out there who can’t just “go sit on their balcony”
The cure can’t be worse than the cause.

I am sorry to learn of your situation. The transition from service life is difficult enough without having to deal with mental health issues. Anyway it is good to have you posting on the forum.

Another death in Tasmania. Thanks Ruby Princess.
 
It wasn't justn't shooting up disinfectant that Donny suggested - he also mentioned this :

So, supposing we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light — and I think you said that hasn’t been checked but you’re going to test it,” Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon said to Bryan. “And then, I said, supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way.”
 
@diedpretty said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145208) said:
It wasn't justn't shooting up disinfectant that Donny suggested - he also mentioned this :

So, supposing we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light — and I think you said that hasn’t been checked but you’re going to test it,” Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon said to Bryan. “And then, I said, supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way.”

That's a bit harder for someone to follow him and do though, because first you have to work out what the hell he is talking about... ?!?
 
@JD-Tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145209) said:
@diedpretty said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145208) said:
It wasn't justn't shooting up disinfectant that Donny suggested - he also mentioned this :

So, supposing we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light — and I think you said that hasn’t been checked but you’re going to test it,” Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon said to Bryan. “And then, I said, supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way.”

That's a bit harder for someone to follow him and do though, because first you have to work out what the hell he is talking about... ?!?

He is fully fluant in 2 languages BS and Gibberish and can also meander his way through English
 
@JD-Tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145209) said:
@diedpretty said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145208) said:
It wasn't justn't shooting up disinfectant that Donny suggested - he also mentioned this :

So, supposing we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light — and I think you said that hasn’t been checked but you’re going to test it,” Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon said to Bryan. “And then, I said, supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way.”

That's a bit harder for someone to follow him and do though, because first you have to work out what the hell he is talking about... ?!?

Maybe he meant one of these

![bones-mccoy-medical-tricorder.jpg](/assets/uploads/files/1587782989539-bones-mccoy-medical-tricorder.jpg)
 
Apparently something similar has actually been developed. However unfortunately for Don it doesn't have the ability to put tremendous light in to the body.
 
We have a healthcare worker in another aged care facility having tested positive to Coronavirus. A continuation of the failure of Commonwealth and aged care providers to have strict preventative measures in place. A review of employment conditions and pay may also assist so workers can afford to ill and voluntarily stay away.
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145226) said:
We have a healthcare worker in another aged care facility having tested positive to Coronavirus. A continuation of the failure of Commonwealth and aged care providers to have strict preventative measures in place. A review of employment conditions and pay may also assist so workers can afford to ill and voluntarily stay away.


How do you know this to be true? How do you know that this has not happened despite Commonwealth Gov & Aged Care Providers preventative measures? Which measures were compromised?

Every night all of the workers go home. It is entirely possible the HCW was completely asymptomatic.
 
@diedpretty said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145208) said:
It wasn't justn't shooting up disinfectant that Donny suggested - he also mentioned this :

So, supposing we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light — and I think you said that hasn’t been checked but you’re going to test it,” Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon said to Bryan. “And then, I said, supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way.”

I think Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon must have tried all his suggestions and Just fried his last brain Cell
What an Embarrassment to his country
I just can't believe a president of the United States of America, supposedly the most powerful man in the world, would come out with such garbage.
And he does it over and over again
 
@Tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145227) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145226) said:
We have a healthcare worker in another aged care facility having tested positive to Coronavirus. A continuation of the failure of Commonwealth and aged care providers to have strict preventative measures in place. A review of employment conditions and pay may also assist so workers can afford to ill and voluntarily stay away.


How do you know this to be true? How do you know that this has not happened despite Commonwealth Gov & Aged Care Providers preventative measures? Which measures were compromised?

Every night all of the workers go home. It is entirely possible the HCW was completely asymptomatic.

It is happening too frequently. This is the third facility in NSW. We've had 10 deaths. More to come at Newmarch. I could understand a hospital where staff put themselves at risk every day. But at an aged care facility where our most vulnerable are supposedly safely housed? The Royal Commission into aged care was required for a reason. Commonwealth with aged care and Ruby Princess really are the benchmark.
 
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