Coronavirus Outbreak

[Cultured_Bogan]

You'd think we'd have leant by now

If we'd have learned by now metropolitan Melbourne would not be an containment zone.

 

[rustycage]

She'll be right mate.

 

[mike]

Masks, the cloth and surgical types, in my opinion are useless for the general public and here’s why.

Masks will do diddly squat. In fact it is more likely to make it worse. Certainly under controlled laboratory tests they can be shown to reduce the spread of large droplets. The problem is we don’t live in laboratories and the Covid19 droplets are small. Observing people, as I do, 99.9% of people do not understand or worse just don’t want to wear them properly. We are talking about surgical and cloth masks here. The ones most are likely to use. They promote a false sense of security.

First rule, never touch the mask, it has been shown that more virus droplets develop on the outside of the mask than the inside. Once you touch the mask you will be spreading the droplets to everything you touch. Most people observed touch their mask more than once .

Second rule, cover your nose and pull it under you chin as well. Exposing any part of the mouth or nose makes the mask worthless. A number of people can’t even put it on properly with a number not covering there nose.

Thirdly and most importantly a mask is not a substitute for good hygiene. You can’t wear a mask and think, like most seem to, that is all you have to do. Wash, wash, wash your hands and don’t touch your face. The hand sanitisers are there for a reason, use them.

Lastly physical distancing is still the best defence against Covid19. Don’t just wear a mask and think you can then invade my personal space. You are putting lives at risk in doing so.

 

[Snake]

So how does a Jetstar flight from Melb-SYD be allowed to land and passengers just leave the airport and go on their way with no checks whatsoever?
Three steps back again...

The same way a cruise ship sneaks in and allows hundreds of people to disembark.

The crew of the flight broke protocol and let them go when they shouldn’t have ! Blame does need to be put to the right area !

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

So how does a Jetstar flight from Melb-SYD be allowed to land and passengers just leave the airport and go on their way with no checks whatsoever?
Three steps back again...

The same way a cruise ship sneaks in and allows hundreds of people to disembark.

The crew of the flight broke protocol and let them go when they shouldn’t have ! Blame does need to be put to the right area !

Settle down mate, I'm talking about oversight here, I'm not making it political. Regardless of whether the crew did the right or wrong thing, the plane should not have been allowed to disembark upon arrival. No gate should have been allocated until which point that NSW Health authorities were onsite to receive and test the passengers. Did no one at Kingsford-Smith have the foresight to warn that a flight was inbound from Melbourne? All it takes is one person to ask a question and get the ball rolling...

No one is thinking outside the square here, these are destination ports that all have criteria around biosecurity. It's not as though Kingsford-Smith doesn't have access to biosecurity experts and personnel who couldn't then liaise with NSW Health. Nah, just let them off.

Two classic Australian workplace phrases at work here: "She'll be right," and "that's not my job."

 

[pawsandclaws1]

13 new cases in NSW, 11 are returned travellers. The remaining two are from Albury. Another family member tested positive.

 

[trentrunciman]

just dropped off my mate going back to hanoi. Works at aussie embassy for dfat and the airport is dead.

 

[Tim Sheens]

Good to hear that most of the locked down public housing towers are at least somewhat opening up, but was so disappointed when I saw their geographical density when reading the following screenshot of The Age article. Terrible planning decisions.
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[Tim Sheens]

Hope that nobody from Victoria was in this line waiting to get into a Sydney pub last night. No responsibility at any level, so this is where we are at.
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[TrueTiger]

Hope that nobody from Victoria was in this line waiting to get into a Sydney pub last night. No responsibility at any level, so this is where we are at.
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social distancing was not to be adhered to apparently when your thirsty and looking for a good time...
this is what shits me no end,here where I live and work you have to stay seated and not miil at the bar you have to social distance at the tables you have to sanitise at the door and sign in...but before you get there you can do what you like...unbelievable….

 

[TrueTiger]

Victoria are going to have a heck of a hard time trying to contain the new infections anytime soon...I just hope we here in NSW don't get a second huge wave of this disease...it will ruin the economy and jobs for years to come...

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Hope that nobody from Victoria was in this line waiting to get into a Sydney pub last night. No responsibility at any level, so this is where we are at.
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The more I see stuff like this the more I hope the virus wipes humanity out. Idiocy on parade.

 

[Tiger5150]

This is really starting to worry and anger me. Daily cases and total numbers are locked back into an exponential rise and it is back to the relentless predictability that it was at the start. The exponential multiplier for the last 4 days has been 1.016, 1.016, 1.018, 1.019. Locked in and climbing like at the start. Rate of increase is the same as early April right now.

Sick of reading media reports that "it has nothing to do with the protests". No nothing to do with the protests, its just a complete coincidence that community transmission began to rise exponentially 14 days (the incubation period for COVID) after the BLM rallies. Media keep saying there were only 4 at the rally with COVID but that shows a lack of understanding of exponential growth. When I plugged 4 into my models at the previous rate R, I get 160 new cases a day at this stage which is exactly what we are getting (two days ago, yesterday was 170).




 

[TillLindemann]

I've got a feeling this is just coronavirus not being diagnosed correctly. But if not, jesus, a highly contagious and even deadlier viral pneumonia, just what we need.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-8508129/Unknown-pneumonia-said-deadlier-coronavirus-sweeping-Kazakhstan.html

 

[TillLindemann]

This is really starting to worry and anger me. Daily cases and total numbers are locked back into an exponential rise and it is back to the relentless predictability that it was at the start. The exponential multiplier for the last 4 days has been 1.016, 1.016, 1.018, 1.019. Locked in and climbing like at the start. Rate of increase is the same as early April right now.

Sick of reading media reports that "it has nothing to do with the protests". No nothing to do with the protests, its just a complete coincidence that community transmission began to rise exponentially 14 days (the incubation period for COVID) after the BLM rallies. Media keep saying there were only 4 at the rally with COVID but that shows a lack of understanding of exponential growth. When I plugged 4 into my models at the previous rate R, I get 160 new cases a day at this stage which is exactly what we are getting (two days ago, yesterday was 170).




I agree. But it's not just the cases that were directly spread from the protests, it was the attitude they created in the wider community. Others looked at the protests and felt "if they can go out, why can't I?"

 

[TillLindemann]

222,000 new cases globally in the last 24 hours, a new record I believe.

The two countries I am watching closely now for rapid growth are India and South Africa.

Both did very well in the early months of the pandemic, but both are now losing the battle in the face of exponential growth. India now has the 3rd highest number of cases, South Africa has come from nowhere to entering the top 10 in the next few days.

 

[Tiger5150]

This is really starting to worry and anger me. Daily cases and total numbers are locked back into an exponential rise and it is back to the relentless predictability that it was at the start. The exponential multiplier for the last 4 days has been 1.016, 1.016, 1.018, 1.019. Locked in and climbing like at the start. Rate of increase is the same as early April right now.

Sick of reading media reports that "it has nothing to do with the protests". No nothing to do with the protests, its just a complete coincidence that community transmission began to rise exponentially 14 days (the incubation period for COVID) after the BLM rallies. Media keep saying there were only 4 at the rally with COVID but that shows a lack of understanding of exponential growth. When I plugged 4 into my models at the previous rate R, I get 160 new cases a day at this stage which is exactly what we are getting (two days ago, yesterday was 170).




I agree. But it's not just the cases that were directly spread from the protests, it was the attitude they created in the wider community. Others looked at the protests and felt "if they can go out, why can't I?"

Totally agree and the stupidity and selfishness floors me. I cant put it in words because of forum rules. Im seriously all for free speech and the right to protest regardless of the merit of the argument, but people have to understand that there are bigger and more important issues at hand. Not only health issues and potentially life and death for some people but there are THOUSANDS of businesses hanging on by the skin of their teeth and they will not survive a second shut down or even an extension of the current restrictions. This will be followed by massive job losses and economic collapse.

 

[happy_tiger]

222,000 new cases globally in the last 24 hours, a new record I believe.

The two countries I am watching closely now for rapid growth are India and South Africa.

Both did very well in the early months of the pandemic, but both are now losing the battle in the face of exponential growth. India now has the 3rd highest number of cases, South Africa has come from nowhere to entering the top 10 in the next few days.

South Africa has been on a slow build for a while unfortunately

 

[TillLindemann]

222,000 new cases globally in the last 24 hours, a new record I believe.

The two countries I am watching closely now for rapid growth are India and South Africa.

Both did very well in the early months of the pandemic, but both are now losing the battle in the face of exponential growth. India now has the 3rd highest number of cases, South Africa has come from nowhere to entering the top 10 in the next few days.

South Africa has been on a slow build for a while unfortunately

They're doubling every two weeks, which is not good when you already have a quarter of a million cases.

 

[happy_tiger]

222,000 new cases globally in the last 24 hours, a new record I believe.

The two countries I am watching closely now for rapid growth are India and South Africa.

Both did very well in the early months of the pandemic, but both are now losing the battle in the face of exponential growth. India now has the 3rd highest number of cases, South Africa has come from nowhere to entering the top 10 in the next few days.

South Africa has been on a slow build for a while unfortunately

They're doubling every two weeks, which is not good when you already have a quarter of a million cases.

Guessing they are in the ten of thousands of cases daily now