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@Tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1192048) said:
@CocaCola said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1192047) said:
I can only speculate on agenda.

1 - Monetary & social balance. Alot of poor & middle class will need to take a step back from the economic damage that has been caused, while the rich continue growing their wealth.

2 - Push for future vaccines or meication. No one will be forced to take a vaccine but you will most likely be restricted in your choice of occupation & future International travel.
There is no money in cures, bandaid solution is where they make the money.

It will lead to a vicious cycle.


Man you are speculating WILDLY. There is no way this benefits ANYONE financially. All economies are tanking.

So the WHOLE world takes a bath, rich, poor and govts, so BIG PHARMA & Bill Gates can make a buck?

Every time there is a financial crisis you can bet your balls someone is benefitting massively.
 
@Tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1192048) said:
@CocaCola said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1192047) said:
I can only speculate on agenda.

1 - Monetary & social balance. Alot of poor & middle class will need to take a step back from the economic damage that has been caused, while the rich continue growing their wealth.

2 - Push for future vaccines or meication. No one will be forced to take a vaccine but you will most likely be restricted in your choice of occupation & future International travel.
There is no money in cures, bandaid solution is where they make the money.

It will lead to a vicious cycle.


Man you are speculating WILDLY. There is no way this benefits ANYONE financially. All economies are tanking.

So the WHOLE world takes a bath, rich, poor and govts, so BIG PHARMA & Bill Gates can make a buck?

The whole World can take a hit, but not everyone can recover from it, notice the difference?

Those who are dependent on weekly/monthly earnings that will struggle to find their feet when there are a lack of jobs, how many small businesses will go under, how many will lose homes over this?

It's not the Governments who control people, its ruling class elites who dictace policies.

I'm sure you are familiar with bankers & fiat currency, money created from thin air.. I don't have a problem with creating money from nothing, people need to get paid..

My issue is why do they keep countries enslaved over compounding interest that is mathematically impossible to repay? The Federal Reserve (private bank owned by elites) for instance can wipe a Nations debt, that is FACT. So if the World really wanted a healthy, poverty free society, why don't they wipe debts? It wasn't their money to begin with.

Anyway thats straying from the topic.. Covid is another strand of the flu that has now been propogandered as the 'New Terrorist' on the block.
 
@Hangonaminute said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1192054) said:
I'll put this here again, eventually people will stop ignoring it.

https://youtu.be/mcUfZlq0gJs

It goes for a hour mate......
Way to long for a dull topic

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Spoiler Text

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@TheDaBoss said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1192056) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1192054) said:
I'll put this here again, eventually people will stop ignoring it.

https://youtu.be/mcUfZlq0gJs

It goes for a hour mate......
Way to long for a dull topic

:::

Spoiler Text

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Yeah just ignore it, it's only first hand knowledge of a hospital pretty much killing people, people that present to the hospital covid free who end up getting put in with covid patients then contract it and are put on a ventilator and don't walk out.
They have no family or anyone who can protect them from the "treatment" because nobody else is allowed inside the hospital, they're restrained to the bed and pumped full of drugs and ventilated to death.

But an hour is too long to waste to find that out.
3min lies by mainstream media is much more digestible, I understand
 
Paraphrasing our nation's leader that I just saw on the box regarding the devastating aged care covid situation; "This is a new situation that could not have been foreseen"

RUBBISH, they have had months to prepare for what was a probable scenario on the back of the Newmarch and overseas experiences!
 
@CocaCola said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1192053) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1192048) said:
@CocaCola said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1192047) said:
I can only speculate on agenda.

1 - Monetary & social balance. Alot of poor & middle class will need to take a step back from the economic damage that has been caused, while the rich continue growing their wealth.

2 - Push for future vaccines or meication. No one will be forced to take a vaccine but you will most likely be restricted in your choice of occupation & future International travel.
There is no money in cures, bandaid solution is where they make the money.

It will lead to a vicious cycle.


Man you are speculating WILDLY. There is no way this benefits ANYONE financially. All economies are tanking.

So the WHOLE world takes a bath, rich, poor and govts, so BIG PHARMA & Bill Gates can make a buck?

The whole World can take a hit, but not everyone can recover from it, notice the difference?

Yes I do, but Im not sure you understand how economies work. Lets take this a point at a time. Im assuming from this that your point is that somehow the worlds financial elites are controlling this to crush the poor. How the hell do you think the worlds financial elites generate money? They need the poor and middle class to continue to products and capital to inject into the economy to fuel growth without which all of the top end investments mean nothing. You discuss recovery. This is going to take at least a couple of decades to recover from. Lets make a sweeping assumption that these powerful international elites are at least 50, you think they have all got together and said "Yeah thats OK, I dont mind waiting until Im 70 to recoup my losses as long as Im richer when I die?". If so, Im betting you arent 50.

Those who are dependent on weekly/monthly earnings that will struggle to find their feet when there are a lack of jobs, how many small businesses will go under, how many will lose homes over this?

Your point being? Who benefits from this?


It's not the Governments who control people, its ruling class elites who dictate policies.


Ill be sure to bring that up next time I'm late with my BAS statement.

I'm sure you are familiar with bankers & fiat currency, money created from thin air.. I don't have a problem with creating money from nothing, people need to get paid..

I am very familiar with Fiat Currency, a portion of my super is dependent on it. Fiat currency is not money from thin air, it is dependent on the market valuation of a nations currency as a factor of the nations prosperity and is set by the market based on performance. If your point is that it is made up out of thin air, ask Italians and Italian investors to back up your statement. COVID is SMASHING many nations currency. Again, your point?

My issue is why do they keep countries enslaved over compounding interest that is mathematically impossible to repay?

Ummm....its kinda wrapped up in the word....repay...as in RE...PAY. Thye are loaned money and they have to repay it. Its the way capital works. Noone forced countries to borrow money with a gun to their heads.

>The Federal Reserve (private bank owned by elites) for instance can wipe a Nations debt, that is FACT. So if the World really wanted a healthy, poverty free society, why don't they wipe debts? It wasn't their money to begin with.

This one is worth a couple of goes at it. Which nations "Federal Reserve" is owned "by Elites"? Not Australia or the US (both owned by the State). Which Federal Reserve is "owned by elites. Seriously?w

>The Federal Reserve (private bank owned by elites) for instance can wipe a Nations debt, that is FACT. So if the World really wanted a healthy, poverty free society, why don't they wipe debts? It wasn't their money to begin with.

Ummmm yes it was. It WAS their money to begin with. That is how a loan works. If it wasnt their money to begin with that they loaned to another entity, there wouldnt be repayments.
 
@formerguest said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1192064) said:
Paraphrasing our nation's leader that I just saw on the box regarding the devastating aged care covid situation; "This is a new situation that could not have been foreseen"

RUBBISH, they have had months to prepare for what was a probable scenario on the back of the Newmarch and overseas experiences!


Is this not State Govt responsibilities?
 
@CocaCola said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1192045) said:
Watching these 2 clips will take less than 2 minutes of your time..

Dr. Ngozi Ezike | How COVID Deaths are Classified
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tw9Ci2PZKZg

Dr. Ezike: 90% of Illinois' COVID-19 deaths had underlying condition
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qp0afdBUzis

In a previous post I made regarding death statistics from Italy, it was reported upto 6 million people were effected by regular Influenza just before the Covid pandemic.

I noted the authorities did NOT differenciate the cause of deaths between Influenza & Covid.
Doctors were also reporting that around 90% of the patients who were put on ICU or reported as death by Covid had a history of severe underlying health issues and most were eldery.

It may be more contagious then regular influenza, but I wouldn't rely on flawed statistics to make a conclusion that Covid is some death flu going around.

Covid isn't airborne yet people are forced to wear masks now?

There's an agenda behind Covid.

You understand how covid attacks the body right? So you get why underlying health issues are made worse by covid and cause death.

You realise WHO is says it’s possible it’s airborne now and have changed their previous position. Mainly due to a worldwide campaign from actual doctors

You have looked at death rates and not cases to see why it’s deadly. (Hint look at case to death ratios), if you want another fun fact look at flu cases this year vs last year.

The USA is not a place I’d be looking to for any sort of reasonable data or discussion on covid. Perhaps look at the positive test ratios in the US as opposed to the rest of the world

I’m sorry I looked in this thread - I resisted for so long and should have held out longer
 
@Tiger5150
It's straying too much off topic but here goes.

Ummm....its kinda wrapped up in the word....repay...as in RE...PAY. Thye are loaned money and they have to repay it. Its the way capital works. Noone forced countries to borrow money with a gun to their heads.

Just like the US Superpower is paying back their debt?
The US debt has gone from less than 3 Trillion to 26 Trillion dollar debt in 30 Years. At what stage will this get paid off?

There was a interview on a US channel with the CEO Alan Greenspan, in which he was asked:
"Does the Federal Reserve have the power to write off a debt, if so why don't they write off debts of the poorest Nations such as African counties."
His response was, YES they hold the power to wipe the debt with a press of a button. As to why they wont do it, is apparently the Governments from those countries won't learn anything from it and will just go back in debt.


This one is worth a couple of goes at it. Which nations "Federal Reserve" is owned "by Elites"? Not Australia or the US (both owned by the State). Which Federal Reserve is "owned by elites. Seriously?

The Federal Reserve (United States) is not owned by the State.
It is a private corporation run by elite families (such as Rothschilds, Rockefellers , Morgans etc) who have controlling interest through other banks & networks such as politics. There's a reason why corporations spend millions donating towards on electition campaigns to get their 'person' selected..



Ummmm yes it was. It WAS their money to begin with. That is how a loan works. If it wasnt their money to begin with that they loaned to another entity, there wouldnt be repayments.

The Federal Reserve never had 26+ Trillion dollars to lend.. In fact they refused to be audited on mulitple occasions, and where did all that missing Gold go from the Vaults? You know, like the missing gold that apparently melted under the twin towers.. They could send scrap steal to China to recycle, but left over 1 ton of gold underground. Riiiight..

In 1933, the US switched from Gold Standard (money backed by Gold) to Fiat currency which isn't backed by anything, its basically printing money out of thin air. In this day & age its digits entered into the digital banking system.

26 Billionaires have the wealth of the poorest half of the Worlds population (3.5 billion people).
Bezos, Gates and Buffett own more wealth than 160 million people living in the US.

Rothschilds & Rockerfellers most likely hit over1 Trillion but their true wealth is kept secret. Corporations have long ruled over Governments. East India Company is a good place to start.

Anyway, this is my final post regarding an 'AGENDA' behind Covid.
 
It's well known that those whom die from COVID usually have co-morbidities. Same as the flu, the flu tends to pick off those who are infirm or have co-morbidities. I don't hear the COVID conspiracy brigade drawing that parallel.

If I have a car accident, and the impact from the collision is so severe that my heart is displaced and I bleed to death, is my cause of death still not categorised as a car accident? It doesn't happen spontaneously, there's a cause for it to happen: a car accident. Same applies with an illness. AIDS didn't kill directly either if I'm correct, it would attack the immune system to a point where if you got a pneumonia or flu, you would die.
 
Man there are some extremely naive people in this word
I don't know if I feel embarrassed for them or sorry for them
Over 17,000,000 CASES REPORTED so far
Over 666,000 DEATHS REPORTED so far
This is after flight cancellations across the world
Cruise ship cancellations across the world
Country boarders being shut down
State borders being shut down
Small towns being shut down
Some suburbs being shut down
Hotel isolations
Self isolation
Wearing on mandatory masks in countries and now in Victoria
Strict social gatherings including sports events like our NRL
Overflowing Hospitals world wide
Make shift morgues
Mass dug graves in cities in the USA to help cope with the deaths
Deaths of young and old people
Deaths of doctors and nurses trying to same the lives of those infected , some of those being naive people

Any yet we still have people who don't believe in the virus or how deadly it is
A message to those people
DO YOU KNOW OR UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS WORLD WOULD BE GOING THROUGH RIGHT NOW WITHOUT THESE RESTRICTIONS BEING IN PLACE
 
@Cairnstigers said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1192086) said:
Man there are some extremely naive people in this word
I don't know if I feel embarrassed for them or sorry for them
Over 17,000,000 CASES REPORTED so far
Over 666,000 DEATHS REPORTED so far
This is after flight cancellations across the world
Cruise ship cancellations across the world
Country boarders being shut down
State borders being shut down
Small towns being shut down
Some suburbs being shut down
Hotel isolations
Self isolation
Wearing on mandatory masks in countries and now in Victoria
Strict social gatherings including sports events like our NRL
Overflowing Hospitals world wide
Make shift morgues
Mass dug graves in cities in the USA to help cope with the deaths
Deaths of young and old people
Deaths of doctors and nurses trying to same the lives of those infected , some of those being naive people

Any yet we still have people who don't believe in the virus or how deadly it is
A message to those people
DO YOU KNOW OR UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS WORLD WOULD BE GOING THROUGH RIGHT NOW WITHOUT THESE RESTRICTIONS BEING IN PLACE

I agree any unauthorised mass gathering and marches shall be forbidden! Organisers shall be sentenced to several months of hard work in Papua New Guinea and fined 100K+!:angry:
 
@Tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1192071) said:
@formerguest said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1192064) said:
Paraphrasing our nation's leader that I just saw on the box regarding the devastating aged care covid situation; "This is a new situation that could not have been foreseen"

RUBBISH, they have had months to prepare for what was a probable scenario on the back of the Newmarch and overseas experiences!


Is this not State Govt responsibilities?

No, federal, pretty well from top to bottom, apart from the state run facilities that still work within the same nationally regulated framework.
 
This is a quick recognition of the bravery and selflessness of the nurses who are travelling from interstate to Vic to assist in hospitals and aged care facilities. Also to the physios who also put their lives st risk in assisting patients in clearing the highly infectious muck from lungs. Shout out to doctors as well.

Go you brave women and men.
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1192099) said:
This is a quick recognition of the bravery and selflessness of the nurses who are travelling from interstate to Vic to assist in hospitals and aged care facilities. Also to the physios who also put their lives st risk in assisting patients in clearing the highly infectious muck from lungs. Shout out to doctors as well.

Go you brave women and men.

For sure. This, along with cancellation of normal surgery across both the public and private hospital systems, is the bit that should be enough to stop those that believe that this is just another version of the regular flu or other similar rubbish.

If they didn't close sections of and then later, the entire greater Melbourne area down again, the numbers that we have been seeing over this past week would have been some ten times higher, as hospitals would have been overflowing long ago into the refrigerated trucks parked outside of them.
 
@formerguest said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1192064) said:
Paraphrasing our nation's leader that I just saw on the box regarding the devastating aged care covid situation; "This is a new situation that could not have been foreseen"

RUBBISH, they have had months to prepare for what was a probable scenario on the back of the Newmarch and overseas experiences!

Spot on.

No surprise at all. It happened in Sydney and indeed has been happening around the world. They've been caught asleep at the wheel on a federal issue.

The PM was trying to deflect blame by saying the Royal Commission will look into it - which is a lie, submissions close tomorrow and unless the date is extended, it's unlikely anyone will be able to pull a sufficient submission together.

Total scandal.
 
A message to our two friends who have been jumping borders illegally and putting people at risk who have no idea they are at risk

You can pay the cleaning / disinfecting bills of all the businesses you stupid cows decided to visit
 
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1192109) said:
A message to our two friends who have been jumping borders illegally and putting people at risk who have no idea they are at risk

You can pay the cleaning / disinfecting bills of all the businesses you stupid cows decided to visit

I feel for Qld businesses who are impacted. We know the Qld Premier was just waiting for an excuse to close the border to boost her popularity. Politics in pandemics does not mix.
 
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