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@jadtiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1260510) said:
I have just read a very interesting fact about the vaccine that has been developed in that it needs to be stored at -80C to be effective(BBC website).Undoubtedly this will complicate matters as i cant imagine too many places having the facilities for that.Hope i am wrong

Yes the current proposed vaccine has to be kept at ultra-low temperatures, however they are also trying to develop a non-frozen formulation for dissemination. Their projected dosage availability carries with it "the risk that we may not be able to successfully develop non-frozen formulations", among a number of other (to be expected) risks.
 
@jadtiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1260510) said:
I have just read a very interesting fact about the vaccine that has been developed in that it needs to be stored at -80C to be effective(BBC website).Undoubtedly this will complicate matters as i cant imagine too many places having the facilities for that.Hope i am wrong

Its not so much the storage, its the transportation that becomes the issue. The labs that are used to create it are all in the US or Europe which means we will have to find a way to transport it to Australia at around -75C. Apparently we have been looking at this issue for a couple of months so hopefully we are well down the planning phase.

Transporting it around a city isn't too bad as dry ice is -78C so that can be used and maintain the temp for a couple of days.
 
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1260644) said:
@jadtiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1260510) said:
I have just read a very interesting fact about the vaccine that has been developed in that it needs to be stored at -80C to be effective(BBC website).Undoubtedly this will complicate matters as i cant imagine too many places having the facilities for that.Hope i am wrong

Its not so much the storage, its the transportation that becomes the issue. The labs that are used to create it are all in the US or Europe which means we will have to find a way to transport it to Australia at around -75C. Apparently we have been looking at this issue for a couple of months so hopefully we are well down the planning phase.

Transporting it around a city isn't too bad as dry ice is -78C so that can be used and maintain the temp for a couple of days.

Simplest solution would be bringing the patients to the vaccine ...wouldn't it
 
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1260655) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1260644) said:
@jadtiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1260510) said:
I have just read a very interesting fact about the vaccine that has been developed in that it needs to be stored at -80C to be effective(BBC website).Undoubtedly this will complicate matters as i cant imagine too many places having the facilities for that.Hope i am wrong

Its not so much the storage, its the transportation that becomes the issue. The labs that are used to create it are all in the US or Europe which means we will have to find a way to transport it to Australia at around -75C. Apparently we have been looking at this issue for a couple of months so hopefully we are well down the planning phase.

Transporting it around a city isn't too bad as dry ice is -78C so that can be used and maintain the temp for a couple of days.

Simplest solution would be bringing the patients to the vaccine ...wouldn't it

Not when it is being produced overseas, getting it into the country is going to be a logistical nightmare.

In regards to transporting it around the city. The company that I have just taken a job running sells dry ice to a lot of medical, biomedical and genetics labs for the purpose of transporting this type of product around Sydney.

When this starts rolling out on a large scale they are going to want to have multiple site delivering the vaccine across the city and into regional areas.
 
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1260687) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1260655) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1260644) said:
@jadtiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1260510) said:
I have just read a very interesting fact about the vaccine that has been developed in that it needs to be stored at -80C to be effective(BBC website).Undoubtedly this will complicate matters as i cant imagine too many places having the facilities for that.Hope i am wrong

Its not so much the storage, its the transportation that becomes the issue. The labs that are used to create it are all in the US or Europe which means we will have to find a way to transport it to Australia at around -75C. Apparently we have been looking at this issue for a couple of months so hopefully we are well down the planning phase.

Transporting it around a city isn't too bad as dry ice is -78C so that can be used and maintain the temp for a couple of days.

Simplest solution would be bringing the patients to the vaccine ...wouldn't it

Not when it is being produced overseas, getting it into the country is going to be a logistical nightmare.

In regards to transporting it around the city. The company that I have just taken a job running sells dry ice to a lot of medical, biomedical and genetics labs for the purpose of transporting this type of product around Sydney.

When this starts rolling out on a large scale they are going to want to have multiple site delivering the vaccine across the city and into regional areas.

Might be about to get very busy in your new field.

On another note, as Australia has suffered more than 75% of our virus deaths from aged care facilities, is anybody aware of another country being close to as poor, or even worse than our disastrous figure in this area?
 
@formerguest said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1260698) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1260687) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1260655) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1260644) said:
@jadtiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1260510) said:
I have just read a very interesting fact about the vaccine that has been developed in that it needs to be stored at -80C to be effective(BBC website).Undoubtedly this will complicate matters as i cant imagine too many places having the facilities for that.Hope i am wrong

Its not so much the storage, its the transportation that becomes the issue. The labs that are used to create it are all in the US or Europe which means we will have to find a way to transport it to Australia at around -75C. Apparently we have been looking at this issue for a couple of months so hopefully we are well down the planning phase.

Transporting it around a city isn't too bad as dry ice is -78C so that can be used and maintain the temp for a couple of days.

Simplest solution would be bringing the patients to the vaccine ...wouldn't it

Not when it is being produced overseas, getting it into the country is going to be a logistical nightmare.

In regards to transporting it around the city. The company that I have just taken a job running sells dry ice to a lot of medical, biomedical and genetics labs for the purpose of transporting this type of product around Sydney.

When this starts rolling out on a large scale they are going to want to have multiple site delivering the vaccine across the city and into regional areas.

Might be about to get very busy in your new field.

On another note, as Australia has suffered more than 75% of our virus deaths from aged care facilities, is anybody aware of another country being close to as poor, or even worse than our disastrous figure in this area?

I suppose it depends how you look at it FG .....maybe we have been better able to prevents deaths outside of nursing homes
 
@formerguest said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1260698) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1260687) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1260655) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1260644) said:
@jadtiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1260510) said:
I have just read a very interesting fact about the vaccine that has been developed in that it needs to be stored at -80C to be effective(BBC website).Undoubtedly this will complicate matters as i cant imagine too many places having the facilities for that.Hope i am wrong

Its not so much the storage, its the transportation that becomes the issue. The labs that are used to create it are all in the US or Europe which means we will have to find a way to transport it to Australia at around -75C. Apparently we have been looking at this issue for a couple of months so hopefully we are well down the planning phase.

Transporting it around a city isn't too bad as dry ice is -78C so that can be used and maintain the temp for a couple of days.

Simplest solution would be bringing the patients to the vaccine ...wouldn't it

Not when it is being produced overseas, getting it into the country is going to be a logistical nightmare.

In regards to transporting it around the city. The company that I have just taken a job running sells dry ice to a lot of medical, biomedical and genetics labs for the purpose of transporting this type of product around Sydney.

When this starts rolling out on a large scale they are going to want to have multiple site delivering the vaccine across the city and into regional areas.

Might be about to get very busy in your new field.

On another note, as Australia has suffered more than 75% of our virus deaths from aged care facilities, is anybody aware of another country being close to as poor, or even worse than our disastrous figure in this area?

Deaths in the lower age groups start to occur when the health system gets overwhelmed, we have been able to prevent that in Australia which probably contributes to our higher percentage of deaths in aged care facilities.
 
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1260644) said:
@jadtiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1260510) said:
I have just read a very interesting fact about the vaccine that has been developed in that it needs to be stored at -80C to be effective(BBC website).Undoubtedly this will complicate matters as i cant imagine too many places having the facilities for that.Hope i am wrong

Its not so much the storage, its the transportation that becomes the issue. The labs that are used to create it are all in the US or Europe which means we will have to find a way to transport it to Australia at around -75C. Apparently we have been looking at this issue for a couple of months so hopefully we are well down the planning phase.

Transporting it around a city isn't too bad as dry ice is -78C so that can be used and maintain the temp for a couple of days.

Lower cabin pressure in the aircraft would keep the ice longer too. Dry ice would be more practical than liquid nitrogen.
 
@gallagher said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1260747) said:
Didn't Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon say we'd have a vaccine in a few weeks?

What's that saying about a clock being right twice a day
 
@gallagher said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1260747) said:
Didn't Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon say we'd have a vaccine in a few weeks?

He may have. His administration didn't have anything to do with it though.
 
On the Pfizer funding claim, it appears Pence seems to think that agreeing to purchase 100 million doses when a vaccine is FDA approved for an agreed amount is tantamount to funding it. Pfizer privately funded the vaccine research.
 
@Cultured_Bogan said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1260789) said:
On the Pfizer funding claim, it appears Pence seems to think that agreeing to purchase 100 million doses when a vaccine is FDA approved for an agreed amount is tantamount to funding it. Pfizer privately funded the vaccine research.


Just another sign of Trumps administration unable to deal with seperating fiction from reality
 
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1260687) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1260655) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1260644) said:
@jadtiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1260510) said:
I have just read a very interesting fact about the vaccine that has been developed in that it needs to be stored at -80C to be effective(BBC website).Undoubtedly this will complicate matters as i cant imagine too many places having the facilities for that.Hope i am wrong

Its not so much the storage, its the transportation that becomes the issue. The labs that are used to create it are all in the US or Europe which means we will have to find a way to transport it to Australia at around -75C. Apparently we have been looking at this issue for a couple of months so hopefully we are well down the planning phase.

Transporting it around a city isn't too bad as dry ice is -78C so that can be used and maintain the temp for a couple of days.

Simplest solution would be bringing the patients to the vaccine ...wouldn't it

Not when it is being produced overseas, getting it into the country is going to be a logistical nightmare.

In regards to transporting it around the city. The company that I have just taken a job running sells dry ice to a lot of medical, biomedical and genetics labs for the purpose of transporting this type of product around Sydney.

When this starts rolling out on a large scale they are going to want to have multiple site delivering the vaccine across the city and into regional areas.

Sorry i meant once it was in Australia
 
The last 24 hours was the second worst day of the outbreak, with well over 9,000 deaths. More than half came from Europe, with France and Italy posting some especially bad figures.
 
@TillLindemann said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1260923) said:
The last 24 hours was the second worst day of the outbreak, with well over 9,000 deaths. More than half came from Europe, with France and Italy posting some especially bad figures.

Correction, yesterday ended up being the worst, not the second worst. It only held that title for a day, because today is already deadlier still. Europe once again had more than half the global deaths, with almost 5,000 deaths across the continent.
 
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