Coronavirus Outbreak

[mike]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq8SXOBy-4w

Heard about Ivomectin being the best solution for Covid from an Aussie doctor about 4 months ago, he was quickly shut down. It’s not in the pharmaceutical companies best interests for everyone to use a drug that’s already so available, they must make their millions (and inflate their egos) rolling out a largely untested new vaccine.

I can’t believe they are holding back the real solution to this pandemic and playing with people’s lives in such an unprecedented time as this. It’s disgusting!

Not having a personal dig at you, but these types of stories are almost always dodgy.

You've got to highly sceptical when you hear about a one-off doctor being 'shut down'.

It's far more likely that some business council lobby group that wanted to end restrictions rolled out a random bloke to milk a borderline study for all it was worth (see the facts about that one here https://www.nps.org.au/Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective)-and-covid-19)

The 'shut down' thing was most like someone like the AMA telling the bloke to pull his head in and stop pushing untested medicines.

Forgetting the Aussie doctor who told me about it, did you actually watch the video that sheer64 posted?

I did.

He seemed to believe in it pretty strongly but wanted to shortcut all the usual safety checks that medications have gone through for decades.

And a vaccine produced in less than six months isn’t a shortcut?

I think his major gripe is that the NIH refuse to even consider the use of Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective) (a known drug) despite its apparent potential to prevent the spread of COVID-19! And you have to ask why.

He and his colleagues aren’t just bozos with an agenda, they are world renowned medicos and scientists who have been at the coal face of this disease since its inception, treating the dying people and constantly researching, checking and testing for a solution. I know where I would rather put my faith.

Covid19 is not a parasite, it’s a virus which is why Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective) is not considered an effective treatment.

The best treatment, once you have Covid19, is steroid based to reduce the overactive immune system response to Covid19. In many cases it’s the overreaction of the immune system that causes the morbidity of Covid19.

The only effective prevention is a vaccine. To be clear I will be getting vaccinated against Covid19 and at the earliest opportunity.

 

[Papacito]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq8SXOBy-4w

Heard about Ivomectin being the best solution for Covid from an Aussie doctor about 4 months ago, he was quickly shut down. It’s not in the pharmaceutical companies best interests for everyone to use a drug that’s already so available, they must make their millions (and inflate their egos) rolling out a largely untested new vaccine.

I can’t believe they are holding back the real solution to this pandemic and playing with people’s lives in such an unprecedented time as this. It’s disgusting!

Not having a personal dig at you, but these types of stories are almost always dodgy.

You've got to highly sceptical when you hear about a one-off doctor being 'shut down'.

It's far more likely that some business council lobby group that wanted to end restrictions rolled out a random bloke to milk a borderline study for all it was worth (see the facts about that one here https://www.nps.org.au/Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective)-and-covid-19)

The 'shut down' thing was most like someone like the AMA telling the bloke to pull his head in and stop pushing untested medicines.

Forgetting the Aussie doctor who told me about it, did you actually watch the video that sheer64 posted?

I did.

He seemed to believe in it pretty strongly but wanted to shortcut all the usual safety checks that medications have gone through for decades.

And a vaccine produced in less than six months isn’t a shortcut?

I think his major gripe is that the NIH refuse to even consider the use of Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective) (a known drug) despite its apparent potential to prevent the spread of COVID-19! And you have to ask why.

He and his colleagues aren’t just bozos with an agenda, they are world renowned medicos and scientists who have been at the coal face of this disease since its inception, treating the dying people and constantly researching, checking and testing for a solution. I know where I would rather put my faith.

The current vaccines have gone through all the established and independent reviews, trials and safety checks.

Whereas the emergency room doctor in the video openly admits his hasn't.

Don't know about you, but I know which one I'd trust.

 

[happy_tiger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq8SXOBy-4w

Heard about Ivomectin being the best solution for Covid from an Aussie doctor about 4 months ago, he was quickly shut down. It’s not in the pharmaceutical companies best interests for everyone to use a drug that’s already so available, they must make their millions (and inflate their egos) rolling out a largely untested new vaccine.

I can’t believe they are holding back the real solution to this pandemic and playing with people’s lives in such an unprecedented time as this. It’s disgusting!

Not having a personal dig at you, but these types of stories are almost always dodgy.

You've got to highly sceptical when you hear about a one-off doctor being 'shut down'.

It's far more likely that some business council lobby group that wanted to end restrictions rolled out a random bloke to milk a borderline study for all it was worth (see the facts about that one here https://www.nps.org.au/Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective)-and-covid-19)

The 'shut down' thing was most like someone like the AMA telling the bloke to pull his head in and stop pushing untested medicines.

Forgetting the Aussie doctor who told me about it, did you actually watch the video that sheer64 posted?

I did.

He seemed to believe in it pretty strongly but wanted to shortcut all the usual safety checks that medications have gone through for decades.

And a vaccine produced in less than six months isn’t a shortcut?

I think his major gripe is that the NIH refuse to even consider the use of Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective) (a known drug) despite its apparent potential to prevent the spread of COVID-19! And you have to ask why.

He and his colleagues aren’t just bozos with an agenda, they are world renowned medicos and scientists who have been at the coal face of this disease since its inception, treating the dying people and constantly researching, checking and testing for a solution. I know where I would rather put my faith.

The current vaccines have gone through all the established and independent reviews, trials and safety checks.

Whereas the emergency room doctor in the video openly admits his hasn't.

Don't know about you, but I know which one I'd trust.

I think he was asking them to test it ...get the results before spending billions ....as if a Pharmaceutical company would listen ...worse than Insurance companies
Maybe I

 

[Spud_Murphy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq8SXOBy-4w

Heard about Ivomectin being the best solution for Covid from an Aussie doctor about 4 months ago, he was quickly shut down. It’s not in the pharmaceutical companies best interests for everyone to use a drug that’s already so available, they must make their millions (and inflate their egos) rolling out a largely untested new vaccine.

I can’t believe they are holding back the real solution to this pandemic and playing with people’s lives in such an unprecedented time as this. It’s disgusting!

Not having a personal dig at you, but these types of stories are almost always dodgy.

You've got to highly sceptical when you hear about a one-off doctor being 'shut down'.

It's far more likely that some business council lobby group that wanted to end restrictions rolled out a random bloke to milk a borderline study for all it was worth (see the facts about that one here https://www.nps.org.au/Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective)-and-covid-19)

The 'shut down' thing was most like someone like the AMA telling the bloke to pull his head in and stop pushing untested medicines.

Forgetting the Aussie doctor who told me about it, did you actually watch the video that sheer64 posted?

I did.

He seemed to believe in it pretty strongly but wanted to shortcut all the usual safety checks that medications have gone through for decades.

And a vaccine produced in less than six months isn’t a shortcut?

I think his major gripe is that the NIH refuse to even consider the use of Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective) (a known drug) despite its apparent potential to prevent the spread of COVID-19! And you have to ask why.

He and his colleagues aren’t just bozos with an agenda, they are world renowned medicos and scientists who have been at the coal face of this disease since its inception, treating the dying people and constantly researching, checking and testing for a solution. I know where I would rather put my faith.

The current vaccines have gone through all the established and independent reviews, trials and safety checks.

Whereas the emergency room doctor in the video openly admits his hasn't.

Don't know about you, but I know which one I'd trust.

I think he was asking them to test it ...get the results before spending billions ....as if a Pharmaceutical company would listen ...worse than Insurance companies
Maybe I

Exactly! Why not at least look at it as a potential solution instead of just dismissing it, especially since these doctors and researchers have been using it in the treatment of Covid patients with very positive results?

Oh and I think the guy in the video is a little bit more than just an emergency room doctor. Pacito you seem to have no problem just dismissing the findings of some of these front line health professionals without even considering the possibility that they may actually know something - do you work in the industry yourself? Not trying to be smart, it’s a genuine question.

 

[Spud_Murphy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq8SXOBy-4w

Heard about Ivomectin being the best solution for Covid from an Aussie doctor about 4 months ago, he was quickly shut down. It’s not in the pharmaceutical companies best interests for everyone to use a drug that’s already so available, they must make their millions (and inflate their egos) rolling out a largely untested new vaccine.

I can’t believe they are holding back the real solution to this pandemic and playing with people’s lives in such an unprecedented time as this. It’s disgusting!

Not having a personal dig at you, but these types of stories are almost always dodgy.

You've got to highly sceptical when you hear about a one-off doctor being 'shut down'.

It's far more likely that some business council lobby group that wanted to end restrictions rolled out a random bloke to milk a borderline study for all it was worth (see the facts about that one here https://www.nps.org.au/Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective)-and-covid-19)

The 'shut down' thing was most like someone like the AMA telling the bloke to pull his head in and stop pushing untested medicines.

Forgetting the Aussie doctor who told me about it, did you actually watch the video that sheer64 posted?

I did.

He seemed to believe in it pretty strongly but wanted to shortcut all the usual safety checks that medications have gone through for decades.

And a vaccine produced in less than six months isn’t a shortcut?

I think his major gripe is that the NIH refuse to even consider the use of Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective) (a known drug) despite its apparent potential to prevent the spread of COVID-19! And you have to ask why.

He and his colleagues aren’t just bozos with an agenda, they are world renowned medicos and scientists who have been at the coal face of this disease since its inception, treating the dying people and constantly researching, checking and testing for a solution. I know where I would rather put my faith.

Covid19 is not a parasite, it’s a virus which is why Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective) is not considered an effective treatment.

The best treatment, once you have Covid19, is steroid based to reduce the overactive immune system response to Covid19. In many cases it’s the overreaction of the immune system that causes the morbidity of Covid19.

The only effective prevention is a vaccine. To be clear I will be getting vaccinated against Covid19 and at the earliest opportunity.

That’s the thing Mike, Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective) is proving to be effective. That’s what the doctor in the video is trying to tell us. There’s a hell of a lot we don’t know about Covid, for all we know there could be parasitic tendencies in the strain and that’s why Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective) has been working in some treatments. At least consider the possibility that it may offer a solution - that’s all that doctor is asking of the NIH.

 

[mike]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq8SXOBy-4w

Heard about Ivomectin being the best solution for Covid from an Aussie doctor about 4 months ago, he was quickly shut down. It’s not in the pharmaceutical companies best interests for everyone to use a drug that’s already so available, they must make their millions (and inflate their egos) rolling out a largely untested new vaccine.

I can’t believe they are holding back the real solution to this pandemic and playing with people’s lives in such an unprecedented time as this. It’s disgusting!

Not having a personal dig at you, but these types of stories are almost always dodgy.

You've got to highly sceptical when you hear about a one-off doctor being 'shut down'.

It's far more likely that some business council lobby group that wanted to end restrictions rolled out a random bloke to milk a borderline study for all it was worth (see the facts about that one here https://www.nps.org.au/Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective)-and-covid-19)

The 'shut down' thing was most like someone like the AMA telling the bloke to pull his head in and stop pushing untested medicines.

Forgetting the Aussie doctor who told me about it, did you actually watch the video that sheer64 posted?

I did.

He seemed to believe in it pretty strongly but wanted to shortcut all the usual safety checks that medications have gone through for decades.

And a vaccine produced in less than six months isn’t a shortcut?

I think his major gripe is that the NIH refuse to even consider the use of Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective) (a known drug) despite its apparent potential to prevent the spread of COVID-19! And you have to ask why.

He and his colleagues aren’t just bozos with an agenda, they are world renowned medicos and scientists who have been at the coal face of this disease since its inception, treating the dying people and constantly researching, checking and testing for a solution. I know where I would rather put my faith.

Covid19 is not a parasite, it’s a virus which is why Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective) is not considered an effective treatment.

The best treatment, once you have Covid19, is steroid based to reduce the overactive immune system response to Covid19. In many cases it’s the overreaction of the immune system that causes the morbidity of Covid19.

The only effective prevention is a vaccine. To be clear I will be getting vaccinated against Covid19 and at the earliest opportunity.


That’s the thing Mike, Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective) is proving to be effective. That’s what the doctor in the video is trying to tell us. There’s a hell of a lot we don’t know about Covid, for all we know there could be parasitic tendencies in the strain and that’s why Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective) has been working in some treatments. At least consider the possibility that it may offer a solution - that’s all that doctor is asking of the NIH.

Anecdotal evidence is the weakest form of evidence and not at all reliable. At best it says more research is needed. One study suggesting reduction in-vitro.does not necessarily translate to widespread applications. It would need to go through clinical trials to establish efficacy. They know that steroids work at reducing the effects of Covid19 and that vaccines now available also work. I would assume, though I suppose I shouldn’t, there is no desire, time or money to trial a drug that is unlikely to produce the same results.

 

[Tim Sheens]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq8SXOBy-4w

Heard about Ivomectin being the best solution for Covid from an Aussie doctor about 4 months ago, he was quickly shut down. It’s not in the pharmaceutical companies best interests for everyone to use a drug that’s already so available, they must make their millions (and inflate their egos) rolling out a largely untested new vaccine.

I can’t believe they are holding back the real solution to this pandemic and playing with people’s lives in such an unprecedented time as this. It’s disgusting!

Not having a personal dig at you, but these types of stories are almost always dodgy.

You've got to highly sceptical when you hear about a one-off doctor being 'shut down'.

It's far more likely that some business council lobby group that wanted to end restrictions rolled out a random bloke to milk a borderline study for all it was worth (see the facts about that one here https://www.nps.org.au/Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective)-and-covid-19)

The 'shut down' thing was most like someone like the AMA telling the bloke to pull his head in and stop pushing untested medicines.

Forgetting the Aussie doctor who told me about it, did you actually watch the video that sheer64 posted?

I did.

He seemed to believe in it pretty strongly but wanted to shortcut all the usual safety checks that medications have gone through for decades.

And a vaccine produced in less than six months isn’t a shortcut?

I think his major gripe is that the NIH refuse to even consider the use of Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective) (a known drug) despite its apparent potential to prevent the spread of COVID-19! And you have to ask why.

He and his colleagues aren’t just bozos with an agenda, they are world renowned medicos and scientists who have been at the coal face of this disease since its inception, treating the dying people and constantly researching, checking and testing for a solution. I know where I would rather put my faith.

I watched his testimony a little while back and I found it very hard to get past the self-gratulation for both himself and his colleagues, before even considering taking the content seriously.

 

[Tim Sheens]

Governments can only do so much as long as the not me, nor lack of self responsibility attitude continues across the nation.

.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Governments can only do so much as long as the not me, nor lack of self responsibility attitude continues across the nation.

.

Shut the border.

 

[hank37w]

They've all probably got a boot full of toilet paper as well.

 

[Tim Sheens]

Governments can only do so much as long as the not me, nor lack of self responsibility attitude continues across the nation.

.

Shut the border.

Yeah, plus do what Victoria did in making them stay in the city/lockdown area unless they meet a strict criteria of exemptions.

 

[Snake]

Governments can only do so much as long as the not me, nor lack of self responsibility attitude continues across the nation.

.

Shut the border.

The horse has bolted all the lock down has achieved is 10’s of thousands have been on the move spreading it everywhere real smart that Queensland lot .. should of been an immediate lockdown to stop the movement .

 

[Tiger5150]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq8SXOBy-4w

Heard about Ivomectin being the best solution for Covid from an Aussie doctor about 4 months ago, he was quickly shut down. It’s not in the pharmaceutical companies best interests for everyone to use a drug that’s already so available, they must make their millions (and inflate their egos) rolling out a largely untested new vaccine.

I can’t believe they are holding back the real solution to this pandemic and playing with people’s lives in such an unprecedented time as this. It’s disgusting!

Not having a personal dig at you, but these types of stories are almost always dodgy.

You've got to highly sceptical when you hear about a one-off doctor being 'shut down'.

It's far more likely that some business council lobby group that wanted to end restrictions rolled out a random bloke to milk a borderline study for all it was worth (see the facts about that one here https://www.nps.org.au/Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective)-and-covid-19)

The 'shut down' thing was most like someone like the AMA telling the bloke to pull his head in and stop pushing untested medicines.

Forgetting the Aussie doctor who told me about it, did you actually watch the video that sheer64 posted?

I did.

He seemed to believe in it pretty strongly but wanted to shortcut all the usual safety checks that medications have gone through for decades.

And a vaccine produced in less than six months isn’t a shortcut?

I think his major gripe is that the NIH refuse to even consider the use of Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective) (a known drug) despite its apparent potential to prevent the spread of COVID-19! And you have to ask why.

He and his colleagues aren’t just bozos with an agenda, they are world renowned medicos and scientists who have been at the coal face of this disease since its inception, treating the dying people and constantly researching, checking and testing for a solution. I know where I would rather put my faith.

It is clearly a strange smother going on. There was a recent Australian peer reviewed scientific publication demonstrating the efficacy of Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective) (safety is proven over a long period, African countries distribute it without prescription) for COVID. A website curated by scientists that simply retweeted the peer reviewed data was shut down on Twitter.

More details a couple of pages back in the video I posted.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq8SXOBy-4w

Heard about Ivomectin being the best solution for Covid from an Aussie doctor about 4 months ago, he was quickly shut down. It’s not in the pharmaceutical companies best interests for everyone to use a drug that’s already so available, they must make their millions (and inflate their egos) rolling out a largely untested new vaccine.

I can’t believe they are holding back the real solution to this pandemic and playing with people’s lives in such an unprecedented time as this. It’s disgusting!

Not having a personal dig at you, but these types of stories are almost always dodgy.

You've got to highly sceptical when you hear about a one-off doctor being 'shut down'.

It's far more likely that some business council lobby group that wanted to end restrictions rolled out a random bloke to milk a borderline study for all it was worth (see the facts about that one here https://www.nps.org.au/Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective)-and-covid-19)

The 'shut down' thing was most like someone like the AMA telling the bloke to pull his head in and stop pushing untested medicines.

Forgetting the Aussie doctor who told me about it, did you actually watch the video that sheer64 posted?

I did.

He seemed to believe in it pretty strongly but wanted to shortcut all the usual safety checks that medications have gone through for decades.

And a vaccine produced in less than six months isn’t a shortcut?

I think his major gripe is that the NIH refuse to even consider the use of Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective) (a known drug) despite its apparent potential to prevent the spread of COVID-19! And you have to ask why.

He and his colleagues aren’t just bozos with an agenda, they are world renowned medicos and scientists who have been at the coal face of this disease since its inception, treating the dying people and constantly researching, checking and testing for a solution. I know where I would rather put my faith.

Does it prevent spread, or is it just a treatment for once you have COVID? I am pretty sure you noted above that it was initially billed as a treatment for COVID, not an innoculation.

 

[Tiger5150]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq8SXOBy-4w

Heard about Ivomectin being the best solution for Covid from an Aussie doctor about 4 months ago, he was quickly shut down. It’s not in the pharmaceutical companies best interests for everyone to use a drug that’s already so available, they must make their millions (and inflate their egos) rolling out a largely untested new vaccine.

I can’t believe they are holding back the real solution to this pandemic and playing with people’s lives in such an unprecedented time as this. It’s disgusting!

Not having a personal dig at you, but these types of stories are almost always dodgy.

You've got to highly sceptical when you hear about a one-off doctor being 'shut down'.

It's far more likely that some business council lobby group that wanted to end restrictions rolled out a random bloke to milk a borderline study for all it was worth (see the facts about that one here https://www.nps.org.au/Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective)-and-covid-19)

The 'shut down' thing was most like someone like the AMA telling the bloke to pull his head in and stop pushing untested medicines.

Forgetting the Aussie doctor who told me about it, did you actually watch the video that sheer64 posted?

I did.

He seemed to believe in it pretty strongly but wanted to shortcut all the usual safety checks that medications have gone through for decades.

And a vaccine produced in less than six months isn’t a shortcut?

I think his major gripe is that the NIH refuse to even consider the use of Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective) (a known drug) despite its apparent potential to prevent the spread of COVID-19! And you have to ask why.

He and his colleagues aren’t just bozos with an agenda, they are world renowned medicos and scientists who have been at the coal face of this disease since its inception, treating the dying people and constantly researching, checking and testing for a solution. I know where I would rather put my faith.

Covid19 is not a parasite, it’s a virus which is why Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective) ***is not considered an effective treatment.***

What do you base that on? There are many scientific, peer reviewed studies into Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective) as a treatment and most show it to be effective if used early.

They may all be wrong and you may be right, but I'd be interested in what you base your findings on.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32707573/
https://trialsitenews.com/well-respected-australian-researcher-consider-triple-therapy-Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective)-zinc-doxycycline-for-covid-19/
https://trialsitenews.com/broward-county-doctor-using-Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective)-off-label-combo-on-covid-19-patients-it-is-working-secures-county-health-protocol-approval/
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/medrxiv/early/2020/07/08/2020.07.07.20145979.full.pdf

 

[Spud_Murphy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq8SXOBy-4w

Heard about Ivomectin being the best solution for Covid from an Aussie doctor about 4 months ago, he was quickly shut down. It’s not in the pharmaceutical companies best interests for everyone to use a drug that’s already so available, they must make their millions (and inflate their egos) rolling out a largely untested new vaccine.

I can’t believe they are holding back the real solution to this pandemic and playing with people’s lives in such an unprecedented time as this. It’s disgusting!

Not having a personal dig at you, but these types of stories are almost always dodgy.

You've got to highly sceptical when you hear about a one-off doctor being 'shut down'.

It's far more likely that some business council lobby group that wanted to end restrictions rolled out a random bloke to milk a borderline study for all it was worth (see the facts about that one here https://www.nps.org.au/Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective)-and-covid-19)

The 'shut down' thing was most like someone like the AMA telling the bloke to pull his head in and stop pushing untested medicines.

Forgetting the Aussie doctor who told me about it, did you actually watch the video that sheer64 posted?

I did.

He seemed to believe in it pretty strongly but wanted to shortcut all the usual safety checks that medications have gone through for decades.

And a vaccine produced in less than six months isn’t a shortcut?

I think his major gripe is that the NIH refuse to even consider the use of Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective) (a known drug) despite its apparent potential to prevent the spread of COVID-19! And you have to ask why.

He and his colleagues aren’t just bozos with an agenda, they are world renowned medicos and scientists who have been at the coal face of this disease since its inception, treating the dying people and constantly researching, checking and testing for a solution. I know where I would rather put my faith.

Does it prevent spread, or is it just a treatment for once you have COVID? I am pretty sure you noted above that it was initially billed as a treatment for COVID, not an innoculation.

At this stage it is a treatment, but real cases have shown that it is a highly effective one in preventing long term illness or death. They are simply wanting NIH to consider it and further test ways in which it could possibly be used as a preventative.

In any case, I would assume that if Covid patients were being cured through the administration of Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective) it would go a long way to helping stop the spread! Not completely of course, but it’s a start and a readily available one.

May I just say also that there is no guarantee that the vaccines will stop the spread either. COVID-19 is unprecedented, it is a whole new ball game. So why not look at all the possible options of eradicating it?

 

[Papacito]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq8SXOBy-4w

Heard about Ivomectin being the best solution for Covid from an Aussie doctor about 4 months ago, he was quickly shut down. It’s not in the pharmaceutical companies best interests for everyone to use a drug that’s already so available, they must make their millions (and inflate their egos) rolling out a largely untested new vaccine.

I can’t believe they are holding back the real solution to this pandemic and playing with people’s lives in such an unprecedented time as this. It’s disgusting!

Not having a personal dig at you, but these types of stories are almost always dodgy.

You've got to highly sceptical when you hear about a one-off doctor being 'shut down'.

It's far more likely that some business council lobby group that wanted to end restrictions rolled out a random bloke to milk a borderline study for all it was worth (see the facts about that one here https://www.nps.org.au/Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective)-and-covid-19)

The 'shut down' thing was most like someone like the AMA telling the bloke to pull his head in and stop pushing untested medicines.

Forgetting the Aussie doctor who told me about it, did you actually watch the video that sheer64 posted?

I did.

He seemed to believe in it pretty strongly but wanted to shortcut all the usual safety checks that medications have gone through for decades.

And a vaccine produced in less than six months isn’t a shortcut?

I think his major gripe is that the NIH refuse to even consider the use of Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective) (a known drug) despite its apparent potential to prevent the spread of COVID-19! And you have to ask why.

He and his colleagues aren’t just bozos with an agenda, they are world renowned medicos and scientists who have been at the coal face of this disease since its inception, treating the dying people and constantly researching, checking and testing for a solution. I know where I would rather put my faith.

The current vaccines have gone through all the established and independent reviews, trials and safety checks.

Whereas the emergency room doctor in the video openly admits his hasn't.

Don't know about you, but I know which one I'd trust.

I think he was asking them to test it ...get the results before spending billions ....as if a Pharmaceutical company would listen ...worse than Insurance companies
Maybe I

Exactly! Why not at least look at it as a potential solution instead of just dismissing it, especially since these doctors and researchers have been using it in the treatment of Covid patients with very positive results?

Oh and I think the guy in the video is a little bit more than just an emergency room doctor. Pacito you seem to have no problem just dismissing the findings of some of these front line health professionals without even considering the possibility that they may actually know something - do you work in the industry yourself? Not trying to be smart, it’s a genuine question.

The scientific process has come a long way in the last few hundred years. By testing stuff properly, allowing independent scrutiny and using proper scientific design and process, life expectancy has gone up.

These guys were asking to bypass that.

They basically just wrote a sloppy paper, couldn't be arsed putting it up for review by others and even admitted they didn't bother doing placebo studies. It's really lazy stuff.

I never give these types equal voice to those that do proper research, regardless of whether they wear a lab coat.

I also don't work in medicine / pharma.

 

[earl]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq8SXOBy-4w

Heard about Ivomectin being the best solution for Covid from an Aussie doctor about 4 months ago, he was quickly shut down. It’s not in the pharmaceutical companies best interests for everyone to use a drug that’s already so available, they must make their millions (and inflate their egos) rolling out a largely untested new vaccine.

I can’t believe they are holding back the real solution to this pandemic and playing with people’s lives in such an unprecedented time as this. It’s disgusting!

Not having a personal dig at you, but these types of stories are almost always dodgy.

You've got to highly sceptical when you hear about a one-off doctor being 'shut down'.

It's far more likely that some business council lobby group that wanted to end restrictions rolled out a random bloke to milk a borderline study for all it was worth (see the facts about that one here https://www.nps.org.au/Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective)-and-covid-19)

The 'shut down' thing was most like someone like the AMA telling the bloke to pull his head in and stop pushing untested medicines.

Forgetting the Aussie doctor who told me about it, did you actually watch the video that sheer64 posted?

I did.

He seemed to believe in it pretty strongly but wanted to shortcut all the usual safety checks that medications have gone through for decades.

And a vaccine produced in less than six months isn’t a shortcut?

I think his major gripe is that the NIH refuse to even consider the use of Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective) (a known drug) despite its apparent potential to prevent the spread of COVID-19! And you have to ask why.

He and his colleagues aren’t just bozos with an agenda, they are world renowned medicos and scientists who have been at the coal face of this disease since its inception, treating the dying people and constantly researching, checking and testing for a solution. I know where I would rather put my faith.

The current vaccines have gone through all the established and independent reviews, trials and safety checks.

Whereas the emergency room doctor in the video openly admits his hasn't.

Don't know about you, but I know which one I'd trust.

Another conspiracy theory out there that doesn't stand up to any scrutiny.

Here is the standard playbook.The whole world knows about an easy cure and they just aren't using it because ... I don't know.

How are people so irrational ?

 

[earl]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq8SXOBy-4w

Heard about Ivomectin being the best solution for Covid from an Aussie doctor about 4 months ago, he was quickly shut down. It’s not in the pharmaceutical companies best interests for everyone to use a drug that’s already so available, they must make their millions (and inflate their egos) rolling out a largely untested new vaccine.

I can’t believe they are holding back the real solution to this pandemic and playing with people’s lives in such an unprecedented time as this. It’s disgusting!

Not having a personal dig at you, but these types of stories are almost always dodgy.

You've got to highly sceptical when you hear about a one-off doctor being 'shut down'.

It's far more likely that some business council lobby group that wanted to end restrictions rolled out a random bloke to milk a borderline study for all it was worth (see the facts about that one here https://www.nps.org.au/Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective)-and-covid-19)

The 'shut down' thing was most like someone like the AMA telling the bloke to pull his head in and stop pushing untested medicines.

Forgetting the Aussie doctor who told me about it, did you actually watch the video that sheer64 posted?

I did.

He seemed to believe in it pretty strongly but wanted to shortcut all the usual safety checks that medications have gone through for decades.

And a vaccine produced in less than six months isn’t a shortcut?

I think his major gripe is that the NIH refuse to even consider the use of Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective) (a known drug) despite its apparent potential to prevent the spread of COVID-19! And you have to ask why.

He and his colleagues aren’t just bozos with an agenda, they are world renowned medicos and scientists who have been at the coal face of this disease since its inception, treating the dying people and constantly researching, checking and testing for a solution. I know where I would rather put my faith.

The current vaccines have gone through all the established and independent reviews, trials and safety checks.

Whereas the emergency room doctor in the video openly admits his hasn't.

Don't know about you, but I know which one I'd trust.

I think he was asking them to test it ...get the results before spending billions ....as if a Pharmaceutical company would listen ...worse than Insurance companies
Maybe I

Exactly! Why not at least look at it as a potential solution instead of just dismissing it, especially since these doctors and researchers have been using it in the treatment of Covid patients with very positive results?

Oh and I think the guy in the video is a little bit more than just an emergency room doctor. Pacito you seem to have no problem just dismissing the findings of some of these front line health professionals without even considering the possibility that they may actually know something - do you work in the industry yourself? Not trying to be smart, it’s a genuine question.

The scientific process has come a long way in the last few hundred years. By testing stuff properly, allowing independent scrutiny and using proper scientific design and process, life expectancy has gone up.

These guys were asking to bypass that.

They basically just wrote a sloppy paper, couldn't be arsed putting it up for review by others and even admitted they didn't bother doing placebo studies. It's really lazy stuff.

I never give these types equal voice to those that do proper research, regardless of whether they wear a lab coat.

I also don't work in medicine / pharma.

They are trying to take us back to the dark ages. They are completely uneducated.

You have to prove something via following a rigorous process. It's not really that hard to understand.

 

[Tiger5150]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq8SXOBy-4w

Heard about Ivomectin being the best solution for Covid from an Aussie doctor about 4 months ago, he was quickly shut down. It’s not in the pharmaceutical companies best interests for everyone to use a drug that’s already so available, they must make their millions (and inflate their egos) rolling out a largely untested new vaccine.

I can’t believe they are holding back the real solution to this pandemic and playing with people’s lives in such an unprecedented time as this. It’s disgusting!

Not having a personal dig at you, but these types of stories are almost always dodgy.

You've got to highly sceptical when you hear about a one-off doctor being 'shut down'.

It's far more likely that some business council lobby group that wanted to end restrictions rolled out a random bloke to milk a borderline study for all it was worth (see the facts about that one here https://www.nps.org.au/Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective)-and-covid-19)

The 'shut down' thing was most like someone like the AMA telling the bloke to pull his head in and stop pushing untested medicines.

Forgetting the Aussie doctor who told me about it, did you actually watch the video that sheer64 posted?

I did.

He seemed to believe in it pretty strongly but wanted to shortcut all the usual safety checks that medications have gone through for decades.

And a vaccine produced in less than six months isn’t a shortcut?

I think his major gripe is that the NIH refuse to even consider the use of Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective) (a known drug) despite its apparent potential to prevent the spread of COVID-19! And you have to ask why.

He and his colleagues aren’t just bozos with an agenda, they are world renowned medicos and scientists who have been at the coal face of this disease since its inception, treating the dying people and constantly researching, checking and testing for a solution. I know where I would rather put my faith.

The current vaccines have gone through all the established and independent reviews, trials and safety checks.

Whereas the emergency room doctor in the video openly admits his hasn't.

Don't know about you, but I know which one I'd trust.

I think he was asking them to test it ...get the results before spending billions ....as if a Pharmaceutical company would listen ...worse than Insurance companies
Maybe I

Exactly! Why not at least look at it as a potential solution instead of just dismissing it, especially since these doctors and researchers have been using it in the treatment of Covid patients with very positive results?

Oh and I think the guy in the video is a little bit more than just an emergency room doctor. Pacito you seem to have no problem just dismissing the findings of some of these front line health professionals without even considering the possibility that they may actually know something - do you work in the industry yourself? Not trying to be smart, it’s a genuine question.

The scientific process has come a long way in the last few hundred years. By testing stuff properly, allowing independent scrutiny and using proper scientific design and process, life expectancy has gone up.

These guys were asking to bypass that.

They basically just wrote a sloppy paper, couldn't be arsed putting it up for review by others and even admitted they didn't bother doing placebo studies. It's really lazy stuff.

I never give these types equal voice to those that do proper research, regardless of whether they wear a lab coat.

I also don't work in medicine / pharma.

But there have also been many scientific, peer reviewed studies into it (see my previous post), clearly more research can be done but based on the research already done it is not possible to say it doesnt work. Peer reviewed studies so far (smallish numbers) show it works.