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@gallagher said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1303243) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1303240) said:
@gallagher said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1303239) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1303238) said:
@gallagher said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1303235) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1303233) said:
https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/global/theory-that-covid19-leaked-from-a-lab-in-wuhan-china-still-under-investigation-who-admits/news-story/8dc7dc6974cec1ed6422381abc9f0325

WHO are a joke at this stage.

I don't know, who?

Dr?

What?

Doctor Who.... get with the times.

He's one first?

Or She...
 
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1303240) said:
@gallagher said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1303239) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1303238) said:
@gallagher said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1303235) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1303233) said:
https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/global/theory-that-covid19-leaked-from-a-lab-in-wuhan-china-still-under-investigation-who-admits/news-story/8dc7dc6974cec1ed6422381abc9f0325

WHO are a joke at this stage.

I don't know, who?

Dr?

What?

Doctor Who.... get with the times.


When Dr Who first started there was still unlimited tackle football and the big health scare at the time was a smallpox outbreak(Europe) which was believed could develop into a pandemic
 
@tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1303233) said:
https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/global/theory-that-covid19-leaked-from-a-lab-in-wuhan-china-still-under-investigation-who-admits/news-story/8dc7dc6974cec1ed6422381abc9f0325

WHO are a joke at this stage.

Brown paper bags
 
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1303244) said:
@gallagher said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1303243) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1303240) said:
@gallagher said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1303239) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1303238) said:
@gallagher said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1303235) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1303233) said:
https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/global/theory-that-covid19-leaked-from-a-lab-in-wuhan-china-still-under-investigation-who-admits/news-story/8dc7dc6974cec1ed6422381abc9f0325

WHO are a joke at this stage.

I don't know, who?

Dr?

What?

Doctor Who.... get with the times.

He's one first?

Or She...

They what ....when
 
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1303250) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1303244) said:
@gallagher said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1303243) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1303240) said:
@gallagher said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1303239) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1303238) said:
@gallagher said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1303235) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1303233) said:
https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/global/theory-that-covid19-leaked-from-a-lab-in-wuhan-china-still-under-investigation-who-admits/news-story/8dc7dc6974cec1ed6422381abc9f0325

WHO are a joke at this stage.

I don't know, who?

Dr?

What?

Doctor Who.... get with the times.

He's one first?

Or She...

They what ....when

This is like Abbott and Costello, "Who's on first".
 
NSW Tracing have spoken to 95% of the 7,000 possible Victorian contacts in NSW. Victoria can’t even contact 1,000 possible close contacts in several days. Hmmmmm
 
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1303261) said:
NSW Tracing have spoken to 95% of the 7,000 possible Victorian contacts in NSW. Victoria can’t even contact 1,000 possible close contacts in several days. Hmmmmm

Sure, a nice figure and continued good work, though in context all states do similarly well from the flight logs with contact details etcetera from interstate transport.
 
A very interesting and informative discussion on the origin of the virus and the recent WHO investigation. Start at 18:50

https://youtu.be/dOxx9JNZFLs?t=1130
 
@bathursttiger1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1303252) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1303250) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1303244) said:
@gallagher said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1303243) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1303240) said:
@gallagher said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1303239) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1303238) said:
@gallagher said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1303235) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1303233) said:
https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/global/theory-that-covid19-leaked-from-a-lab-in-wuhan-china-still-under-investigation-who-admits/news-story/8dc7dc6974cec1ed6422381abc9f0325

WHO are a joke at this stage.

I don't know, who?

Dr?

What?

Doctor Who.... get with the times.

He's one first?

Or She...

They what ....when

This is like Abbott and Costello, "Who's on first".

Only difference is WHO is off it's head
 
@tilllindemann said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1303234) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1303233) said:
https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/global/theory-that-covid19-leaked-from-a-lab-in-wuhan-china-still-under-investigation-who-admits/news-story/8dc7dc6974cec1ed6422381abc9f0325

WHO are a joke at this stage.

A specialist cited by the ABC this morning also implied the lab statement was as much about politics as anything else:

"They quickly dismissed possible unnatural origins, which was expected, given the political sensitivities, not just for China, but for the world," Raina MacIntyre, an infectious disease specialist at the University of New South Wales, said.

**She questioned what evidence was presented to fully rule out the theory."**

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-02-14/china-coronavirus-who-investigation-comes-up-empty/13144756

She was also rather critical of the WHO investigation more broadly.

Don't you also need substantial evidence to prove a theory!? Of which in this case it's more about finding blame rather than facts.

It's pretty obvious now that unless DA WHO concludes that it started in a lab then this part of the world will call any conclusions a scam and claim everyone's been paid off.

Personal bias and preconceptions won't allow this the transparency it deserves.
 
@aesopian said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1303336) said:
@tilllindemann said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1303234) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1303233) said:
https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/global/theory-that-covid19-leaked-from-a-lab-in-wuhan-china-still-under-investigation-who-admits/news-story/8dc7dc6974cec1ed6422381abc9f0325

WHO are a joke at this stage.

A specialist cited by the ABC this morning also implied the lab statement was as much about politics as anything else:

"They quickly dismissed possible unnatural origins, which was expected, given the political sensitivities, not just for China, but for the world," Raina MacIntyre, an infectious disease specialist at the University of New South Wales, said.

**She questioned what evidence was presented to fully rule out the theory."**

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-02-14/china-coronavirus-who-investigation-comes-up-empty/13144756

She was also rather critical of the WHO investigation more broadly.

Don't you also need substantial evidence to prove a theory!? Of which in this case it's more about finding blame rather than facts.

It's pretty obvious now that unless DA WHO concludes that it started in a lab then this part of the world will call any conclusions a scam and claim everyone's been paid off.

Personal bias and preconceptions won't allow this the transparency it deserves.

Eh? I never claimed it started in a lab.
 
@aesopian said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1303336) said:
@tilllindemann said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1303234) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1303233) said:
https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/global/theory-that-covid19-leaked-from-a-lab-in-wuhan-china-still-under-investigation-who-admits/news-story/8dc7dc6974cec1ed6422381abc9f0325

WHO are a joke at this stage.

A specialist cited by the ABC this morning also implied the lab statement was as much about politics as anything else:

"They quickly dismissed possible unnatural origins, which was expected, given the political sensitivities, not just for China, but for the world," Raina MacIntyre, an infectious disease specialist at the University of New South Wales, said.

**She questioned what evidence was presented to fully rule out the theory."**

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-02-14/china-coronavirus-who-investigation-comes-up-empty/13144756

She was also rather critical of the WHO investigation more broadly.

Don't you also need substantial evidence to prove a theory!? Of which in this case it's more about finding blame rather than facts.

It's pretty obvious now that unless DA WHO concludes that it started in a lab then this part of the world will call any conclusions a scam and claim everyone's been paid off.

*****Personal bias and preconceptions won't allow this the transparency it deserves**.***


Transparency it deserves? It doesnt deserves any transparency. The whole of the world is correct to scoff at their findings.

The WHO sent Peter Daszac to investigate whether it is possible if the virus escaped the WIV BS4 Lab at Wuhan as part of their gain of function research into bat coronaviruses. Peter Daszac has spent the last 15 years conducting gain of function research into bat coronaviruses at the WIV BS4 Lab at Wuhan. He has funnelled at least US$40M into that lab of US taxpayers dollars. How the hell is there any transparency in that?
 
@tilllindemann said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1303341) said:
@aesopian said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1303336) said:
@tilllindemann said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1303234) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1303233) said:
https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/global/theory-that-covid19-leaked-from-a-lab-in-wuhan-china-still-under-investigation-who-admits/news-story/8dc7dc6974cec1ed6422381abc9f0325

WHO are a joke at this stage.

A specialist cited by the ABC this morning also implied the lab statement was as much about politics as anything else:

"They quickly dismissed possible unnatural origins, which was expected, given the political sensitivities, not just for China, but for the world," Raina MacIntyre, an infectious disease specialist at the University of New South Wales, said.

**She questioned what evidence was presented to fully rule out the theory."**

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-02-14/china-coronavirus-who-investigation-comes-up-empty/13144756

She was also rather critical of the WHO investigation more broadly.

Don't you also need substantial evidence to prove a theory!? Of which in this case it's more about finding blame rather than facts.

It's pretty obvious now that unless DA WHO concludes that it started in a lab then this part of the world will call any conclusions a scam and claim everyone's been paid off.

Personal bias and preconceptions won't allow this the transparency it deserves.

Eh? I never claimed it started in a lab.

Not saying you did. Referring to the person from the article.
 
@aesopian said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1303336) said:
@tilllindemann said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1303234) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1303233) said:
https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/global/theory-that-covid19-leaked-from-a-lab-in-wuhan-china-still-under-investigation-who-admits/news-story/8dc7dc6974cec1ed6422381abc9f0325

WHO are a joke at this stage.

A specialist cited by the ABC this morning also implied the lab statement was as much about politics as anything else:

"They quickly dismissed possible unnatural origins, which was expected, given the political sensitivities, not just for China, but for the world," Raina MacIntyre, an infectious disease specialist at the University of New South Wales, said.

**She questioned what evidence was presented to fully rule out the theory."**

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-02-14/china-coronavirus-who-investigation-comes-up-empty/13144756

She was also rather critical of the WHO investigation more broadly.

Don't you also need substantial evidence to prove a theory!? Of which in this case it's more about finding blame rather than facts.

Firstly its not a theory, its a hypothesis, as is the hypothesis that the virus came from a wild animal or the wet markets. In order for a hypothesis to become a theory it has to withstand falsification. All three of these hypotheses are still alive. None of them have been completely falsified but the wet market seems to be the least obvious of the lot.
 
@aesopian said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1303344) said:
@tilllindemann said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1303341) said:
@aesopian said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1303336) said:
@tilllindemann said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1303234) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1303233) said:
https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/global/theory-that-covid19-leaked-from-a-lab-in-wuhan-china-still-under-investigation-who-admits/news-story/8dc7dc6974cec1ed6422381abc9f0325

WHO are a joke at this stage.

A specialist cited by the ABC this morning also implied the lab statement was as much about politics as anything else:

"They quickly dismissed possible unnatural origins, which was expected, given the political sensitivities, not just for China, but for the world," Raina MacIntyre, an infectious disease specialist at the University of New South Wales, said.

**She questioned what evidence was presented to fully rule out the theory."**

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-02-14/china-coronavirus-who-investigation-comes-up-empty/13144756

She was also rather critical of the WHO investigation more broadly.

Don't you also need substantial evidence to prove a theory!? Of which in this case it's more about finding blame rather than facts.

It's pretty obvious now that unless DA WHO concludes that it started in a lab then this part of the world will call any conclusions a scam and claim everyone's been paid off.

Personal bias and preconceptions won't allow this the transparency it deserves.

Eh? I never claimed it started in a lab.

Not saying you did. Referring to the person from the article.


Neither did the person from the article. They are however questioning the motives of those trying to rule out the lab leak hypothesis without falsifying evidence.
 
@Tiger5150 Slow down with the replies dude. It's like an ambush of opinions that gives me no time to read and reply to before the next one comes raining down. Clogs up the thread
 
@aesopian said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1303347) said:
@Tiger5150 Slow down with the replies dude. It's like an ambush of opinions that gives me no time to read and reply to before the next one comes raining down. Clogs up the thread


Replied to three separate issues separately, Read them, ignore them or respond at your leisure. I dont think there is a time limit.
 
@tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1303343) said:
@aesopian said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1303336) said:
@tilllindemann said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1303234) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1303233) said:
https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/global/theory-that-covid19-leaked-from-a-lab-in-wuhan-china-still-under-investigation-who-admits/news-story/8dc7dc6974cec1ed6422381abc9f0325

WHO are a joke at this stage.

A specialist cited by the ABC this morning also implied the lab statement was as much about politics as anything else:

"They quickly dismissed possible unnatural origins, which was expected, given the political sensitivities, not just for China, but for the world," Raina MacIntyre, an infectious disease specialist at the University of New South Wales, said.

**She questioned what evidence was presented to fully rule out the theory."**

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-02-14/china-coronavirus-who-investigation-comes-up-empty/13144756

She was also rather critical of the WHO investigation more broadly.

Don't you also need substantial evidence to prove a theory!? Of which in this case it's more about finding blame rather than facts.

It's pretty obvious now that unless DA WHO concludes that it started in a lab then this part of the world will call any conclusions a scam and claim everyone's been paid off.

*****Personal bias and preconceptions won't allow this the transparency it deserves**.***


Transparency it deserves? It doesnt deserves any transparency. The whole of the world is correct to scoff at their findings.

The WHO sent Peter Daszac to investigate whether it is possible if the virus escaped the WIV BS4 Lab at Wuhan as part of their gain of function research into bat coronaviruses. Peter Daszac has spent the last 15 years conducting gain of function research into bat coronaviruses at the WIV BS4 Lab at Wuhan. He has funnelled at least US$40M into that lab of US taxpayers dollars. How the hell is there any transparency in that?

All that proves is he loves the moolah and he's no different to any politician running this country.
But it's beside the point that certain parts of da world have preconceived opinions that the commies must be held accountable and any findings that don't prove this should be discredited.

At least wait for their report to come out before you inevitably tear it to shreds
 
@tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1303345) said:
@aesopian said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1303336) said:
@tilllindemann said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1303234) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1303233) said:
https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/global/theory-that-covid19-leaked-from-a-lab-in-wuhan-china-still-under-investigation-who-admits/news-story/8dc7dc6974cec1ed6422381abc9f0325

WHO are a joke at this stage.

A specialist cited by the ABC this morning also implied the lab statement was as much about politics as anything else:

"They quickly dismissed possible unnatural origins, which was expected, given the political sensitivities, not just for China, but for the world," Raina MacIntyre, an infectious disease specialist at the University of New South Wales, said.

**She questioned what evidence was presented to fully rule out the theory."**

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-02-14/china-coronavirus-who-investigation-comes-up-empty/13144756

She was also rather critical of the WHO investigation more broadly.

Don't you also need substantial evidence to prove a theory!? Of which in this case it's more about finding blame rather than facts.


Firstly its not a theory, its a hypothesis, as is the hypothesis that the virus came from a wild animal or the wet markets. In order for a hypothesis to become a theory it has to withstand falsification. All three of these hypotheses are still alive. None of them have been completely falsified but the wet market seems to be the least obvious of the lot.

Now your just being condescending. I'm quite clear on these definitions.

In the article it's referred to as a 'Theory'. So basically their claiming a hypothesis as a theory.
 
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