Coronavirus Outbreak

[Demps]


@hobbo1 @Tiger_Fanatic3

Soo.... see yas at foot locker?

We’ll see ya there ?

Man I been at the shops, at the movies, out for lunch... off to the pub tmrw with friends to watch UFC.

Living the dream here in Newcastle.
??

Oi, don't rub it in.

Haha man trust me, I wouldn't mind lockdown either... love just kicking back at home. My place is like a 5 star resort though.

 

[Tiger5150]

With Covid the death probably once on a ventilator is higher then 50/50.

I was quoted 50% tonight but they are not stats I'm 100% confident on.

That was the old strain. The new strain is more stubben


dont think that's right.

Pretty sure its more contagious, but less deadly.

What do you base that on? Any data references?


yeah but its late and I have had a rough day. will post it in the morning if that's ok. It is out there. believe it was a UK study (published) that says that.

the challenge is either way it overwhelms health care systems. will tag you when I find it


https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/uk/from-uk-to-indonesia-how-delta-variant-is-dominating-global-covid-surge/articleshow/84241052.cms

https://www.ft.com/content/5a24d39a-a702-40d2-876d-b12a524dc9a5

why is it easier to Google than use outlook? I blame apple


Thanks for posting. I dont believe (but would welcome you correcting me) that those articles show what you have said, that the Delta is more contagious but less deadly. In fact the FT articles explains why it doesnt, that because they have such high vaccination rates and no opportunity for a control group, you cant run a randomised trial and therefore cant show whether the Delta is less deadly or whether the vaccine prevents hospitalisation and deaths.

In fact that FT makes a few confusing statements that I think are either misleading or wrong. For one, it states that the vaccines are between 92-96% effective for preventing hospitalisation. The original variant, with no vaccine had a hospitalisation rate of about 10%. Does that mean that tap water or sunlight is 90% effective at preventing hospitalisation?


fair first par mate. second is not right - that's my point. there is a lancet article on it somewhere. Your tap water comment is concerning.


What is concerning about my tap water comment?

Also, why is my second par wrong? The article says that the vaccines are 92-96% effective for preventing hospitalisations, but without vaccine 90% dont get hospitalised?

The hazard rates for hospitalisation are reportedly between 0.11 and 0.72 for the deltja variant, depending on the vaccine (on a ~15,000 preliminary, pre-print study in the UK). If accurate, that is a good to extremely good improvement.

But I thought (based only on my memory) that in Australia the hospitalization rate was around 10%?

Also as stated in that previous article it’s not possible to run a randomized trial due to the lack of control so is it the vaccine or a characteristic of the variant? I would be interested in reading that study to see if they address this

This is one of the studies done in Scotland on the Delta variant:

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)01358-1/fulltext

This is the UK preprint:

https://media.tghn.org/articles/Effectiveness_of_COVID-19_vaccines_against_hospital_admission_with_the_Delta_B._G6gnnqJ.pdf

Awesome, thank you Nelson. These results are not conclusive but strongly point towards the vaccine improving outcomes with the Delta variant.

 

[Tiger5150]

With Covid the death probably once on a ventilator is higher then 50/50.

I was quoted 50% tonight but they are not stats I'm 100% confident on.

That was the old strain. The new strain is more stubben


dont think that's right.

Pretty sure its more contagious, but less deadly.

What do you base that on? Any data references?


yeah but its late and I have had a rough day. will post it in the morning if that's ok. It is out there. believe it was a UK study (published) that says that.

the challenge is either way it overwhelms health care systems. will tag you when I find it


https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/uk/from-uk-to-indonesia-how-delta-variant-is-dominating-global-covid-surge/articleshow/84241052.cms

https://www.ft.com/content/5a24d39a-a702-40d2-876d-b12a524dc9a5

why is it easier to Google than use outlook? I blame apple


Thanks for posting. I dont believe (but would welcome you correcting me) that those articles show what you have said, that the Delta is more contagious but less deadly. In fact the FT articles explains why it doesnt, that because they have such high vaccination rates and no opportunity for a control group, you cant run a randomised trial and therefore cant show whether the Delta is less deadly or whether the vaccine prevents hospitalisation and deaths.

In fact that FT makes a few confusing statements that I think are either misleading or wrong. For one, it states that the vaccines are between 92-96% effective for preventing hospitalisation. The original variant, with no vaccine had a hospitalisation rate of about 10%. Does that mean that tap water or sunlight is 90% effective at preventing hospitalisation?


fair first par mate. second is not right - that's my point. there is a lancet article on it somewhere. Your tap water comment is concerning.


What is concerning about my tap water comment?

Also, why is my second par wrong? The article says that the vaccines are 92-96% effective for preventing hospitalisations, but without vaccine 90% dont get hospitalised?

The problem is our hospital systems cant cope with mass ICU patients. confusing statements and all.


Of course, but in the UK this is not happening because the hospitalisation rate is low,

I know the govt is diverting funds from BAU medical support to fund a COVID response, there is not additional money. Its a big lie that we are ready at the moment. people die because of fund redirection

What is BAU medical support?


lol mate. You shouldn't need me to define that should you?

They have a set allocation per hospital in NSW. Funds get stripped from existing programs to pay forCOVID. There is no extra coin. articles out there in main stream and non main stream media

Yeah or you could have just answered the questions.

Against my better judgment I engaged with you again. Lesson learned.


Me too. I should have listened warnings from others

you seem like the type that needs direction from others. Myself, not so much

 

[cochise]


@hobbo1 @Tiger_Fanatic3

Soo.... see yas at foot locker?

We’ll see ya there ?

Man I been at the shops, at the movies, out for lunch... off to the pub tmrw with friends to watch UFC.

Living the dream here in Newcastle.
??

Oi, don't rub it in.

Haha man trust me, I wouldn't mind lockdown either... love just kicking back at home. My place is like a 5 star resort though.

I like it too, just after 2 weeks I'd be happy to head out and do something, head out for some dinner, play a game of footy, just something different. My daughter is sitting here right now watching the new Disney film Luca, I could do with a change up.

 

[the_third]

With Covid the death probably once on a ventilator is higher then 50/50.

I was quoted 50% tonight but they are not stats I'm 100% confident on.

That was the old strain. The new strain is more stubben


dont think that's right.

Pretty sure its more contagious, but less deadly.

What do you base that on? Any data references?


yeah but its late and I have had a rough day. will post it in the morning if that's ok. It is out there. believe it was a UK study (published) that says that.

the challenge is either way it overwhelms health care systems. will tag you when I find it


https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/uk/from-uk-to-indonesia-how-delta-variant-is-dominating-global-covid-surge/articleshow/84241052.cms

https://www.ft.com/content/5a24d39a-a702-40d2-876d-b12a524dc9a5

why is it easier to Google than use outlook? I blame apple


Thanks for posting. I dont believe (but would welcome you correcting me) that those articles show what you have said, that the Delta is more contagious but less deadly. In fact the FT articles explains why it doesnt, that because they have such high vaccination rates and no opportunity for a control group, you cant run a randomised trial and therefore cant show whether the Delta is less deadly or whether the vaccine prevents hospitalisation and deaths.

In fact that FT makes a few confusing statements that I think are either misleading or wrong. For one, it states that the vaccines are between 92-96% effective for preventing hospitalisation. The original variant, with no vaccine had a hospitalisation rate of about 10%. Does that mean that tap water or sunlight is 90% effective at preventing hospitalisation?


fair first par mate. second is not right - that's my point. there is a lancet article on it somewhere. Your tap water comment is concerning.


What is concerning about my tap water comment?

Also, why is my second par wrong? The article says that the vaccines are 92-96% effective for preventing hospitalisations, but without vaccine 90% dont get hospitalised?

The problem is our hospital systems cant cope with mass ICU patients. confusing statements and all.


Of course, but in the UK this is not happening because the hospitalisation rate is low,

I know the govt is diverting funds from BAU medical support to fund a COVID response, there is not additional money. Its a big lie that we are ready at the moment. people die because of fund redirection

What is BAU medical support?


lol mate. You shouldn't need me to define that should you?

They have a set allocation per hospital in NSW. Funds get stripped from existing programs to pay forCOVID. There is no extra coin. articles out there in main stream and non main stream media

Yeah or you could have just answered the questions.

Against my better judgment I engaged with you again. Lesson learned.


Me too. I should have listened warnings from others


you seem like the type that needs direction from others. Myself, not so much

You seem to value self importance, keep telling yourself you are a champion.

 

[Tiger5150]

With Covid the death probably once on a ventilator is higher then 50/50.

I was quoted 50% tonight but they are not stats I'm 100% confident on.

That was the old strain. The new strain is more stubben


dont think that's right.

Pretty sure its more contagious, but less deadly.

What do you base that on? Any data references?


yeah but its late and I have had a rough day. will post it in the morning if that's ok. It is out there. believe it was a UK study (published) that says that.

the challenge is either way it overwhelms health care systems. will tag you when I find it


https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/uk/from-uk-to-indonesia-how-delta-variant-is-dominating-global-covid-surge/articleshow/84241052.cms

https://www.ft.com/content/5a24d39a-a702-40d2-876d-b12a524dc9a5

why is it easier to Google than use outlook? I blame apple


Thanks for posting. I dont believe (but would welcome you correcting me) that those articles show what you have said, that the Delta is more contagious but less deadly. In fact the FT articles explains why it doesnt, that because they have such high vaccination rates and no opportunity for a control group, you cant run a randomised trial and therefore cant show whether the Delta is less deadly or whether the vaccine prevents hospitalisation and deaths.

In fact that FT makes a few confusing statements that I think are either misleading or wrong. For one, it states that the vaccines are between 92-96% effective for preventing hospitalisation. The original variant, with no vaccine had a hospitalisation rate of about 10%. Does that mean that tap water or sunlight is 90% effective at preventing hospitalisation?


fair first par mate. second is not right - that's my point. there is a lancet article on it somewhere. Your tap water comment is concerning.


What is concerning about my tap water comment?

Also, why is my second par wrong? The article says that the vaccines are 92-96% effective for preventing hospitalisations, but without vaccine 90% dont get hospitalised?

The problem is our hospital systems cant cope with mass ICU patients. confusing statements and all.


Of course, but in the UK this is not happening because the hospitalisation rate is low,

I know the govt is diverting funds from BAU medical support to fund a COVID response, there is not additional money. Its a big lie that we are ready at the moment. people die because of fund redirection

What is BAU medical support?


lol mate. You shouldn't need me to define that should you?

They have a set allocation per hospital in NSW. Funds get stripped from existing programs to pay forCOVID. There is no extra coin. articles out there in main stream and non main stream media

Yeah or you could have just answered the questions.

Against my better judgment I engaged with you again. Lesson learned.


Me too. I should have listened warnings from others


you seem like the type that needs direction from others. Myself, not so much


You seem to value self importance, keep telling yourself you are a champion.

Im an evidence based kinda guy mate....no "seem to" for me.

 

[hobbo1]

Just saw an email from HR regarding Sydney area lock downs.

No browsing shops eh...
?


Gonna miss culture kings grrr

That stuffs trash


Your preferences ?

Hard Yakka ?

? ?

I took my young bloke to the CK opening at Parramatta .. waited and que’d for 3 hours
What a load of bollocks ?

Trek ?
Boys day out ?
Score anything at least?

Nah not me ..
He blew like $500 on crap though

 

[Needaname]


@hobbo1 @Tiger_Fanatic3

Soo.... see yas at foot locker?

Wooh,

Lucky I got my replacement Ugg Boots in time! Otherwise I’d be putting up with blue feet as they were down to their last stitch!

 

[the_third]

With Covid the death probably once on a ventilator is higher then 50/50.

I was quoted 50% tonight but they are not stats I'm 100% confident on.

That was the old strain. The new strain is more stubben


dont think that's right.

Pretty sure its more contagious, but less deadly.

What do you base that on? Any data references?


yeah but its late and I have had a rough day. will post it in the morning if that's ok. It is out there. believe it was a UK study (published) that says that.

the challenge is either way it overwhelms health care systems. will tag you when I find it


https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/uk/from-uk-to-indonesia-how-delta-variant-is-dominating-global-covid-surge/articleshow/84241052.cms

https://www.ft.com/content/5a24d39a-a702-40d2-876d-b12a524dc9a5

why is it easier to Google than use outlook? I blame apple


Thanks for posting. I dont believe (but would welcome you correcting me) that those articles show what you have said, that the Delta is more contagious but less deadly. In fact the FT articles explains why it doesnt, that because they have such high vaccination rates and no opportunity for a control group, you cant run a randomised trial and therefore cant show whether the Delta is less deadly or whether the vaccine prevents hospitalisation and deaths.

In fact that FT makes a few confusing statements that I think are either misleading or wrong. For one, it states that the vaccines are between 92-96% effective for preventing hospitalisation. The original variant, with no vaccine had a hospitalisation rate of about 10%. Does that mean that tap water or sunlight is 90% effective at preventing hospitalisation?


fair first par mate. second is not right - that's my point. there is a lancet article on it somewhere. Your tap water comment is concerning.


What is concerning about my tap water comment?

Also, why is my second par wrong? The article says that the vaccines are 92-96% effective for preventing hospitalisations, but without vaccine 90% dont get hospitalised?

The problem is our hospital systems cant cope with mass ICU patients. confusing statements and all.


Of course, but in the UK this is not happening because the hospitalisation rate is low,

I know the govt is diverting funds from BAU medical support to fund a COVID response, there is not additional money. Its a big lie that we are ready at the moment. people die because of fund redirection

What is BAU medical support?


lol mate. You shouldn't need me to define that should you?

They have a set allocation per hospital in NSW. Funds get stripped from existing programs to pay forCOVID. There is no extra coin. articles out there in main stream and non main stream media

Yeah or you could have just answered the questions.

Against my better judgment I engaged with you again. Lesson learned.


Me too. I should have listened warnings from others


you seem like the type that needs direction from others. Myself, not so much


You seem to value self importance, keep telling yourself you are a champion.


Im an evidence based kinda guy mate....no "seem to" for me.

proof point right there. go look in the mirror. of course that will just confirm your view.

haha

 

[Tiger5150]

With Covid the death probably once on a ventilator is higher then 50/50.

I was quoted 50% tonight but they are not stats I'm 100% confident on.

That was the old strain. The new strain is more stubben


dont think that's right.

Pretty sure its more contagious, but less deadly.

What do you base that on? Any data references?


yeah but its late and I have had a rough day. will post it in the morning if that's ok. It is out there. believe it was a UK study (published) that says that.

the challenge is either way it overwhelms health care systems. will tag you when I find it


https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/uk/from-uk-to-indonesia-how-delta-variant-is-dominating-global-covid-surge/articleshow/84241052.cms

https://www.ft.com/content/5a24d39a-a702-40d2-876d-b12a524dc9a5

why is it easier to Google than use outlook? I blame apple


Thanks for posting. I dont believe (but would welcome you correcting me) that those articles show what you have said, that the Delta is more contagious but less deadly. In fact the FT articles explains why it doesnt, that because they have such high vaccination rates and no opportunity for a control group, you cant run a randomised trial and therefore cant show whether the Delta is less deadly or whether the vaccine prevents hospitalisation and deaths.

In fact that FT makes a few confusing statements that I think are either misleading or wrong. For one, it states that the vaccines are between 92-96% effective for preventing hospitalisation. The original variant, with no vaccine had a hospitalisation rate of about 10%. Does that mean that tap water or sunlight is 90% effective at preventing hospitalisation?


fair first par mate. second is not right - that's my point. there is a lancet article on it somewhere. Your tap water comment is concerning.


What is concerning about my tap water comment?

Also, why is my second par wrong? The article says that the vaccines are 92-96% effective for preventing hospitalisations, but without vaccine 90% dont get hospitalised?

The problem is our hospital systems cant cope with mass ICU patients. confusing statements and all.


Of course, but in the UK this is not happening because the hospitalisation rate is low,

I know the govt is diverting funds from BAU medical support to fund a COVID response, there is not additional money. Its a big lie that we are ready at the moment. people die because of fund redirection

What is BAU medical support?


lol mate. You shouldn't need me to define that should you?

They have a set allocation per hospital in NSW. Funds get stripped from existing programs to pay forCOVID. There is no extra coin. articles out there in main stream and non main stream media

Yeah or you could have just answered the questions.

Against my better judgment I engaged with you again. Lesson learned.


Me too. I should have listened warnings from others


you seem like the type that needs direction from others. Myself, not so much


You seem to value self importance, keep telling yourself you are a champion.


Im an evidence based kinda guy mate....no "seem to" for me.


proof point right there. go look in the mirror. of course that will just confirm your view.

haha

Please, look in the mirror? The adults are talking here.....

 

[the_third]

With Covid the death probably once on a ventilator is higher then 50/50.

I was quoted 50% tonight but they are not stats I'm 100% confident on.

That was the old strain. The new strain is more stubben


dont think that's right.

Pretty sure its more contagious, but less deadly.

What do you base that on? Any data references?


yeah but its late and I have had a rough day. will post it in the morning if that's ok. It is out there. believe it was a UK study (published) that says that.

the challenge is either way it overwhelms health care systems. will tag you when I find it


https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/uk/from-uk-to-indonesia-how-delta-variant-is-dominating-global-covid-surge/articleshow/84241052.cms

https://www.ft.com/content/5a24d39a-a702-40d2-876d-b12a524dc9a5

why is it easier to Google than use outlook? I blame apple


Thanks for posting. I dont believe (but would welcome you correcting me) that those articles show what you have said, that the Delta is more contagious but less deadly. In fact the FT articles explains why it doesnt, that because they have such high vaccination rates and no opportunity for a control group, you cant run a randomised trial and therefore cant show whether the Delta is less deadly or whether the vaccine prevents hospitalisation and deaths.

In fact that FT makes a few confusing statements that I think are either misleading or wrong. For one, it states that the vaccines are between 92-96% effective for preventing hospitalisation. The original variant, with no vaccine had a hospitalisation rate of about 10%. Does that mean that tap water or sunlight is 90% effective at preventing hospitalisation?


fair first par mate. second is not right - that's my point. there is a lancet article on it somewhere. Your tap water comment is concerning.


What is concerning about my tap water comment?

Also, why is my second par wrong? The article says that the vaccines are 92-96% effective for preventing hospitalisations, but without vaccine 90% dont get hospitalised?

The problem is our hospital systems cant cope with mass ICU patients. confusing statements and all.


Of course, but in the UK this is not happening because the hospitalisation rate is low,

I know the govt is diverting funds from BAU medical support to fund a COVID response, there is not additional money. Its a big lie that we are ready at the moment. people die because of fund redirection

What is BAU medical support?


lol mate. You shouldn't need me to define that should you?

They have a set allocation per hospital in NSW. Funds get stripped from existing programs to pay forCOVID. There is no extra coin. articles out there in main stream and non main stream media

Yeah or you could have just answered the questions.

Against my better judgment I engaged with you again. Lesson learned.


Me too. I should have listened warnings from others


you seem like the type that needs direction from others. Myself, not so much


You seem to value self importance, keep telling yourself you are a champion.


Im an evidence based kinda guy mate....no "seem to" for me.


proof point right there. go look in the mirror. of course that will just confirm your view.

haha


Please, look in the mirror? The adults are talking here.....

mate step away from the mirror.I dont want to be part of your dreamworld

 

[Tiger5150]

With Covid the death probably once on a ventilator is higher then 50/50.

I was quoted 50% tonight but they are not stats I'm 100% confident on.

That was the old strain. The new strain is more stubben


dont think that's right.

Pretty sure its more contagious, but less deadly.

What do you base that on? Any data references?


yeah but its late and I have had a rough day. will post it in the morning if that's ok. It is out there. believe it was a UK study (published) that says that.

the challenge is either way it overwhelms health care systems. will tag you when I find it


https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/uk/from-uk-to-indonesia-how-delta-variant-is-dominating-global-covid-surge/articleshow/84241052.cms

https://www.ft.com/content/5a24d39a-a702-40d2-876d-b12a524dc9a5

why is it easier to Google than use outlook? I blame apple


Thanks for posting. I dont believe (but would welcome you correcting me) that those articles show what you have said, that the Delta is more contagious but less deadly. In fact the FT articles explains why it doesnt, that because they have such high vaccination rates and no opportunity for a control group, you cant run a randomised trial and therefore cant show whether the Delta is less deadly or whether the vaccine prevents hospitalisation and deaths.

In fact that FT makes a few confusing statements that I think are either misleading or wrong. For one, it states that the vaccines are between 92-96% effective for preventing hospitalisation. The original variant, with no vaccine had a hospitalisation rate of about 10%. Does that mean that tap water or sunlight is 90% effective at preventing hospitalisation?


fair first par mate. second is not right - that's my point. there is a lancet article on it somewhere. Your tap water comment is concerning.


What is concerning about my tap water comment?

Also, why is my second par wrong? The article says that the vaccines are 92-96% effective for preventing hospitalisations, but without vaccine 90% dont get hospitalised?

The problem is our hospital systems cant cope with mass ICU patients. confusing statements and all.


Of course, but in the UK this is not happening because the hospitalisation rate is low,

I know the govt is diverting funds from BAU medical support to fund a COVID response, there is not additional money. Its a big lie that we are ready at the moment. people die because of fund redirection

What is BAU medical support?


lol mate. You shouldn't need me to define that should you?

They have a set allocation per hospital in NSW. Funds get stripped from existing programs to pay forCOVID. There is no extra coin. articles out there in main stream and non main stream media

Yeah or you could have just answered the questions.

Against my better judgment I engaged with you again. Lesson learned.


Me too. I should have listened warnings from others


you seem like the type that needs direction from others. Myself, not so much


You seem to value self importance, keep telling yourself you are a champion.


Im an evidence based kinda guy mate....no "seem to" for me.


proof point right there. go look in the mirror. of course that will just confirm your view.

haha


Please, look in the mirror? The adults are talking here.....


mate step away from the mirror.I dont want to be part of your dreamworld

Mate I spend exactly zero time thinking of you.....you on the other hand, based on the *evidence* of you pouncing on every post....im living rent free in your head and Im going to redocorate while Im here....you are more than welcome to continue to extend the lease....


Or you could stop and save some dignity.

 

[Geo]

Cut it out please..

 

[the_third]

Cut it out please..

blocked him

 

[hobbo1]

Origin 3 moved to Gold Coast

 

[Demps]

Origin 3 moved to Gold Coast

WESTS TIGERS ELITE

 

[the_third]

Origin 3 moved to Gold Coast

WESTS TIGERS ELITE

you heard It second

 

[Geo]

Seen something about this in the Origin thread..

 

[Demps]

Origin 3 moved to Gold Coast

WESTS TIGERS ELITE

you heard It second

Lol, nah lad.
First.

Wests Tigers Elite.
Always got the breaking news first.

 

[trentrunciman]

Why the euros and NBA finals got soo many people around? They’ve got rid of the the virus? Thought it delta was still around...