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@formerguest said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437155) said:@tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437090) said:@earl said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437082) said:@trusted_insider said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437077) said:@earl said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1437071) said:At some point though Australia is opening up. Maybe it’s now. Maybe NSW has stuffed it so bad now the government have already given up. I don’t know.
Hope not, that would lead to a **lot** of death.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-05/older-australians-vaccine-hesitancy/100351324
Cliffs: *Only 44 per cent of people aged 70 and over in NSW are fully vaccinated.*
This is my concern. I don't think people are getting it. People are dying with a relative small number of infections that we have now. People are getting very sick.
I've stated that Britain is considered a success story. A counter argument is that they had 100+ daily deaths during the period it's being called a success story.
The good thing is that it's a lot higher percentage over 70 who've now had one dose. 80% have had one dose.
The kicker is the unvaccinated are going to die and it's going to be to me a considerable amount of them. Let's assume you can't get that remaining 20% to get vaccinated. Realistically in that demographic you could easily see a 5% death rate. That is probably on the low side.
This is a disaster that I don't think we will ever see again. I hope we never see it again.
Earl (IMO) you need to chill out a bit about this.
Your main point that misinformation about vaccines is dangerous is 100% correct and I share your opinion that the best way out is large percentage of vaccination.
However, just as you have railed against misinformation and hyperbole by antivaxxers, you need to be accurate in your "facts" as well. There is no chance of a 5% death rate. The maximum mortality rate of Covid (even Delta) is slightly under 1%. The actual mortality rates at the moment are WAY under 1%. As you correctly say, there is approx 100 a day dying ATM in the UK, but for months now their daily case rates have been over 20K (up to 44K). Mortality rates are dropping significantly due to vaccinations (yes I get your point was about unvaccinated) and improved therapeutics.
People are going to die but people die of viruses. In 2017, 1200 people died of Flu in Australia (around 20 a week), it is consistently around 400-500 (10 a week) annually but we never heard about it, its part of life in an urban society. Of course without lockdowns and other measures COVID deaths would have swamped Flu deaths but if we get to 70% vaccination, IMO this virus will start to resemble the flu for annual deaths.
Good to see you back, well sort of, jokingly. Hope that there was nothing too bad that led to your absence.
Thank you mate, all is well.