Coronavirus Outbreak

[Nelson]

Two people Exercising? I've Seen this a bit since last night

We have 2 adults and a child in our household.... Can we still walk together?

Yeah. The 2 person limit comes form the "Outdoor Public Gatherings" direction: "The Minister directs that a person must not participate in an outdoor public gathering in Greater Sydney of more than 2 persons." That clause does **not** apply to "a gathering of persons all of whom are from the same household": cl 23(3)(b).

 

[earl]

The 5km rule is for the POLICE, it is not based on evidence or current health advice. That's why Dr Kerry Chant has been silenced.

She admitted it a while back. I don't like the face mask mandate outdoors. It can spread if you are chatting or exercising with someone but it's not a big spreading event.

It is for compliance purposes - i.e. to make it easier for the police to be difficult when they want to be.

Still we are screwed atm. Deaths trail hospitalizations which trail infections. Vaccinations mean less infections and significantly less hospitalizations and deaths. There are a lot more deaths coming prior to us getting this under control if we ever do.

 

[earl]

The presser is so much more informative with Dr Chant back on board. Little doubt she has set some boundaries and looking more positive. Wouldn't be surprised if we don't see Hazzard and her together for a while.

Morrison threw Gladys under the bus during his presser earlier and whilst it is a roundabout way and a more gentle push, she is still trying to duck shove the issue of not locking down earlier.

Transparency remains a big issue.


Transparency and the word politician should not be used in the same sentence..we feel more reassured when Dr Chant speaks !

I hope people listened to her. She clearly stated stop worrying about the past. I (Dr Chant) told the State govt yesterday about a state wide lockdown. It was implemented.

She is putting it on us as she should be. It's a choice.

A couple of key points:-

1. The health system is under stress
2. Please use the health system if you are sick/in trouble
3. Get vaccinated
4. Stop going out
5. It takes time post vaccinations
6. This could be significantly worse
7. It's already scary
8. Look what is happening overseas - it can get significantly worse

Dr Chant is a beast in a good way. Love her.

Gladys made a good point - no one has gotten Delta under control.

 

[Don Kershane]

We all got lockdown haircuts yesterday.... Surprised I didn't end up sleeping in the garage last night

I keep getting the scissors out to keep it from my eyes, but getting further to the mullet stage each day.

I have resorted to gel for the first time to flatten out the coiffe. Feels like a helmet though and no, smartarses- it is not KY.

 

[mike]

The 5km rule is for the POLICE, it is not based on evidence or current health advice. That's why Dr Kerry Chant has been silenced.

She admitted it a while back. I don't like the face mask mandate outdoors. It can spread if you are chatting or exercising with someone but it's not a big spreading event.

It is for compliance purposes - i.e. to make it easier for the police to be difficult when they want to be.

Still we are screwed atm. Deaths trail hospitalizations which trail infections. Vaccinations mean less infections and significantly less hospitalizations and deaths. There are a lot more deaths coming prior to us getting this under control if we ever do.

Gladys admitted the 5km rule had nothing todo with the current medical advice, it’s purely for the POLICE. I’m happy to follow health advice, not happy that an unelected Police Commissioner is making policy decisions, just so it’s easier for the POLICE. That’s not how a democracy works.

 

[earl]

The 5km rule is for the POLICE, it is not based on evidence or current health advice. That's why Dr Kerry Chant has been silenced.

She admitted it a while back. I don't like the face mask mandate outdoors. It can spread if you are chatting or exercising with someone but it's not a big spreading event.

It is for compliance purposes - i.e. to make it easier for the police to be difficult when they want to be.

Still we are screwed atm. Deaths trail hospitalizations which trail infections. Vaccinations mean less infections and significantly less hospitalizations and deaths. There are a lot more deaths coming prior to us getting this under control if we ever do.

Gladys admitted the 5km rule had nothing todo with the current medical advice, it’s purely for the POLICE. I’m happy to follow health advice, not happy that an unelected Police Commissioner is making policy decisions, just so it’s easier for the POLICE. That’s not how a democracy works.

I didn't get your point the other day until later. I think I get it now. You believe she is going to get pushed out because he made those decisions. It's a good point because it's very police state like. I don't like it.

Dr Chant was very pro police today and I heard her state the outdoor mandate was only based on compliance. My impression is Dr Chant is pro all these measures. She just wants the case numbers to start going down.

I don't believe this approach can continue for too long though.

 

[TrueTiger]

The 5km rule is for the POLICE, it is not based on evidence or current health advice. That's why Dr Kerry Chant has been silenced.

She admitted it a while back. I don't like the face mask mandate outdoors. It can spread if you are chatting or exercising with someone but it's not a big spreading event.

It is for compliance purposes - i.e. to make it easier for the police to be difficult when they want to be.

Still we are screwed atm. Deaths trail hospitalizations which trail infections. Vaccinations mean less infections and significantly less hospitalizations and deaths. There are a lot more deaths coming prior to us getting this under control if we ever do.

Gladys admitted the 5km rule had nothing todo with the current medical advice, it’s purely for the POLICE. I’m happy to follow health advice, not happy that an unelected Police Commissioner is making policy decisions, just so it’s easier for the POLICE. That’s not how a democracy works.

I didn't get your point the other day until later. I think I get it now. You believe she is going to get pushed out because he made those decisions. It's a good point because it's very police state like. I don't like it.

Dr Chant was very pro police today and I heard her state the outdoor mandate was only based on compliance. My impression is Dr Chant is pro all these measures. She just wants the case numbers to start going down.

I don't believe this approach can continue for too long though.

Earl,yesterday I went to work as usual,set up for our dining guests that evening,organised all and sundry to have a good and productive night....
4.30 the Police came in and told us to make sure everyone is out of the premises and home by 5...
do you realise how much kaos that caused,I had to ring the diners and tell them that only takeaway food was available and as well I had to empty the poker machines,balance up the till and clear the ATM...my boss told the police we cant be out of here at 5,so they gave us an exemption to lock up and secure the premises...
my question is ...why couldnt she have said that as at midnight the lockdown would commence and not in the middle of a very busy Saturday afternoon.???

 

[coivtny]

Two people Exercising? I've Seen this a bit since last night

We have 2 adults and a child in our household.... Can we still walk together?

Yes.

 

[tigger]

The 5km rule is for the POLICE, it is not based on evidence or current health advice. That's why Dr Kerry Chant has been silenced.

She admitted it a while back. I don't like the face mask mandate outdoors. It can spread if you are chatting or exercising with someone but it's not a big spreading event.

It is for compliance purposes - i.e. to make it easier for the police to be difficult when they want to be.

Still we are screwed atm. Deaths trail hospitalizations which trail infections. Vaccinations mean less infections and significantly less hospitalizations and deaths. There are a lot more deaths coming prior to us getting this under control if we ever do.

Gladys admitted the 5km rule had nothing todo with the current medical advice, it’s purely for the POLICE. I’m happy to follow health advice, not happy that an unelected Police Commissioner is making policy decisions, just so it’s easier for the POLICE. That’s not how a democracy works.

I think Gladys talks a load of garbage. At press conferences she seems to just say the first thing that pops into her head.

When Daniel Andrews was asked about his 5km restriction he answered that it was all about restricting movement. If we could restrict movement to local geographical areas we could reduce the extent to which the disease could be spread.

When asked about his curfew (8.00pm at the time) he said that it wasn't a health initiative, it was to take some pressure off police resources which could be better utilised than pulling over cars and checking ID's. (The curfew was only for a short time at the height of our second lockdown).

I think Gladys is a complete and utter dud and I'm angry at being back in lockdown again because of her failure to control what was happening in Sydney.

And I'm sorry that you guys are going through it too.

 

[mike]

The 5km rule is for the POLICE, it is not based on evidence or current health advice. That's why Dr Kerry Chant has been silenced.

She admitted it a while back. I don't like the face mask mandate outdoors. It can spread if you are chatting or exercising with someone but it's not a big spreading event.

It is for compliance purposes - i.e. to make it easier for the police to be difficult when they want to be.

Still we are screwed atm. Deaths trail hospitalizations which trail infections. Vaccinations mean less infections and significantly less hospitalizations and deaths. There are a lot more deaths coming prior to us getting this under control if we ever do.

Gladys admitted the 5km rule had nothing todo with the current medical advice, it’s purely for the POLICE. I’m happy to follow health advice, not happy that an unelected Police Commissioner is making policy decisions, just so it’s easier for the POLICE. That’s not how a democracy works.

I didn't get your point the other day until later. I think I get it now. You believe she is going to get pushed out because he made those decisions. It's a good point because it's very police state like. I don't like it.

Dr Chant was very pro police today and I heard her state the outdoor mandate was only based on compliance. My impression is Dr Chant is pro all these measures. She just wants the case numbers to start going down.

I don't believe this approach can continue for too long though.

Dr Chant has already told the premier that if you don’t want to take my advice then perhaps you should put someone in my position that tells you what you want to hear. The premier just about shat herself. At the moment Dr Chant is staying but for how long.

 

[cochise]

The 5km rule is for the POLICE, it is not based on evidence or current health advice. That's why Dr Kerry Chant has been silenced.

She admitted it a while back. I don't like the face mask mandate outdoors. It can spread if you are chatting or exercising with someone but it's not a big spreading event.

It is for compliance purposes - i.e. to make it easier for the police to be difficult when they want to be.

Still we are screwed atm. Deaths trail hospitalizations which trail infections. Vaccinations mean less infections and significantly less hospitalizations and deaths. There are a lot more deaths coming prior to us getting this under control if we ever do.

Gladys admitted the 5km rule had nothing todo with the current medical advice, it’s purely for the POLICE. I’m happy to follow health advice, not happy that an unelected Police Commissioner is making policy decisions, just so it’s easier for the POLICE. That’s not how a democracy works.

I didn't get your point the other day until later. I think I get it now. You believe she is going to get pushed out because he made those decisions. It's a good point because it's very police state like. I don't like it.

Dr Chant was very pro police today and I heard her state the outdoor mandate was only based on compliance. My impression is Dr Chant is pro all these measures. She just wants the case numbers to start going down.

I don't believe this approach can continue for too long though.

Dr Chant has already told the premier that if you don’t want to take my advice then perhaps you should put someone in my position that tells you what you want to hear. The premier just about shat herself. At the moment Dr Chant is staying but for how long.

Where did you hear that?

 

[mike]

The 5km rule is for the POLICE, it is not based on evidence or current health advice. That's why Dr Kerry Chant has been silenced.

She admitted it a while back. I don't like the face mask mandate outdoors. It can spread if you are chatting or exercising with someone but it's not a big spreading event.

It is for compliance purposes - i.e. to make it easier for the police to be difficult when they want to be.

Still we are screwed atm. Deaths trail hospitalizations which trail infections. Vaccinations mean less infections and significantly less hospitalizations and deaths. There are a lot more deaths coming prior to us getting this under control if we ever do.

Gladys admitted the 5km rule had nothing todo with the current medical advice, it’s purely for the POLICE. I’m happy to follow health advice, not happy that an unelected Police Commissioner is making policy decisions, just so it’s easier for the POLICE. That’s not how a democracy works.

I didn't get your point the other day until later. I think I get it now. You believe she is going to get pushed out because he made those decisions. It's a good point because it's very police state like. I don't like it.

Dr Chant was very pro police today and I heard her state the outdoor mandate was only based on compliance. My impression is Dr Chant is pro all these measures. She just wants the case numbers to start going down.

I don't believe this approach can continue for too long though.

Dr Chant has already told the premier that if you don’t want to take my advice then perhaps you should put someone in my position that tells you what you want to hear. The premier just about shat herself. At the moment Dr Chant is staying but for how long.

Where did you hear that?

Sorry but I can’t divulge my sources on that one. Things are very tense within the government right now. I will say no more.

 

[cochise]

The 5km rule is for the POLICE, it is not based on evidence or current health advice. That's why Dr Kerry Chant has been silenced.

She admitted it a while back. I don't like the face mask mandate outdoors. It can spread if you are chatting or exercising with someone but it's not a big spreading event.

It is for compliance purposes - i.e. to make it easier for the police to be difficult when they want to be.

Still we are screwed atm. Deaths trail hospitalizations which trail infections. Vaccinations mean less infections and significantly less hospitalizations and deaths. There are a lot more deaths coming prior to us getting this under control if we ever do.

Gladys admitted the 5km rule had nothing todo with the current medical advice, it’s purely for the POLICE. I’m happy to follow health advice, not happy that an unelected Police Commissioner is making policy decisions, just so it’s easier for the POLICE. That’s not how a democracy works.

I didn't get your point the other day until later. I think I get it now. You believe she is going to get pushed out because he made those decisions. It's a good point because it's very police state like. I don't like it.

Dr Chant was very pro police today and I heard her state the outdoor mandate was only based on compliance. My impression is Dr Chant is pro all these measures. She just wants the case numbers to start going down.

I don't believe this approach can continue for too long though.

Dr Chant has already told the premier that if you don’t want to take my advice then perhaps you should put someone in my position that tells you what you want to hear. The premier just about shat herself. At the moment Dr Chant is staying but for how long.

Where did you hear that?

Sorry but I can’t divulge my sources on that one. Things are very tense within the government right now. I will say no more.

Yeah I was wondering as I hadn't seen that anywhere, so its inside info. Chant did seem a bit more serious, stern and bullish in today's presser.

 

[FinestTigers]

I was at woolwoths today and I've just returned home, The place was very busy, there were many people in every aisle and a line of people waiting at the checkouts.i was trying my best to avoid close contact with the people but it seemed almost impossible.

Which then made me think are these strict lockdown laws **seriously flawed?** It seems if they are then it would make those tough rules that are applied as being very **debatable** and mostly pointless.

How would checking in and wearing a mask in a **crowded** woolworths be **any different** than checking in and wearing a mask in those places that are banned to operate?

 

[innsaneink]

People. Have to. Eat

 

[FinestTigers]

People. Have to. Eat

But some of these people wont only be bringing their groceries home they'll also bring a virus that they have'nt paid for at the checkout.😊

 

[TheDaBoss]

People. Have to. Eat

But some of these people wont only be bringing their groceries home they'll also bring a virus that they have'nt paid for at the checkout.?

bit of a flawed logic there

Woolworths is a essential shop

 

[hobbo1]

People. Have to. Eat

But some of these people wont only be bringing their groceries home they'll also bring a virus that they have'nt paid for at the checkout.?

bit of a flawed logic there

Woolworths is a essential shop

Coles online

 

[FinestTigers]

People. Have to. Eat

But some of these people wont only be bringing their groceries home they'll also bring a virus that they have'nt paid for at the checkout.?

bit of a flawed logic there

Woolworths is a essential shop

Coles online

Your answer would suggest to me that you do accept that there is a serious flaw with the lockdown rules.

 

[gregjm87]

I was at woolwoths today and I've just returned home, The place was very busy, there were many people in every aisle and a line of people waiting at the checkouts.i was trying my best to avoid close contact with the people but it seemed almost impossible.

Which then made me think are these strict lockdown laws **seriously flawed?** It seems if they are then it would make those tough rules that are applied as being very **debatable** and mostly pointless.

How would checking in and wearing a mask in a **crowded** woolworths be **any different** than checking in and wearing a mask in those places that are banned to operate?

I work at woolworths, in Parra LGA. When lockdown started I was expecting an initial rise in sales followed by a steady decline. But there has actually been a steady increase since the inital rise after lockdown.
The non-compliance is rife. I would say probably about 10% of people dont wear masks over their face. There is minimal social distancing between customers and virtually none by customers with staff.
Im not sure if mandated or simply recommended but there is meant to be only one per household shopping on any given day. There is meant to be no meeting up with people from other households to shop together or even catching up with a friend you bump into at the shops.
If the police were to start issuing fines for any of this there would literally be 100s of fines a day from each store.