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@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132016) said:
The blame game can start AFTER we have sorted this out and found a vaccine

I agree and there is going to be plenty of blame to go about.
 
@Earl said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132017) said:
@Geo said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132012) said:
@Earl said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1131963) said:
Guys - China is to blame for this outbreak but plenty of other countries have caused outbreaks in the past.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swine_influenza
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_flu
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Central_Luzon_H5N6_outbreak

I think the real question is do we stop eating meat ?

Yeah my bat strew is off the menu..

Honestly it's at times like this to be logical and this is just an opportunity for the ignorant and racist among us to come up with conspiracy theories and scream that the dirty Chinese are the problem.

We've had these outbreaks previously and we need to calm down and put stuff into perspective. I can't see human beings stopping eating meat but blaming the Chinese for this probably isn't fair especially when we've had Trumpy stating really dumb stuff and not only that. Some westerners are so arrogant that they believe they can just keep going on with their normal lives.

Especially the younger generation ...they are still hugging each other
 
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1131871) said:
@NT_Tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1131869) said:
Has anyone seen reasons given anywhere, why we are running out of CV19 test kits? Are there more on order? Where are they from etc?
It is apparent that epidemiologists see that as a major problem and we should be testing as many people as possible, but kits are being rationed. Anybody know anything?

Because they are being used world wide, there is currently a pandemic! ;p We have just set up to start producing our own kits!

Yeah the main problem is because COVID-19 kits never existed previously. When the outbreak started they had to develop a test for COVID-19, then when they did (it took 2 weeks), they had to ramp up production. A lot of normal kit supply comes from Asia (China), so not surprising at all that the capacity is impacted.

There have been 200K confirmed COVID-19 cases so far and you'd have to imagine significantly more folks tested - I read an estimate we are up to 1.5M tests globally and there's exponential growth. That's a lot of kits to consume in 2 months.

I read that the Chinese factories are now on high production for testing kits, but obviously they'll want a lot of those kits for themselves. I wouldn't have a clue what Australia's native kit building capacity is, but I would guess it is poor. In my line of work we literally don't source anything from Australia for lab testing, it all comes from O/S.
 
@jirskyr said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132025) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1131871) said:
@NT_Tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1131869) said:
Has anyone seen reasons given anywhere, why we are running out of CV19 test kits? Are there more on order? Where are they from etc?
It is apparent that epidemiologists see that as a major problem and we should be testing as many people as possible, but kits are being rationed. Anybody know anything?

Because they are being used world wide, there is currently a pandemic! ;p We have just set up to start producing our own kits!

Yeah the main problem is because COVID-19 kits never existed previously. When the outbreak started they had to develop a test for COVID-19, then when they did (it took 2 weeks), they had to ramp up production. A lot of normal kit supply comes from Asia (China), so not surprising at all that the capacity is impacted.

There have been 200K confirmed COVID-19 cases so far and you'd have to imagine significantly more folks tested - I read an estimate we are up to 1.5M tests globally and there's exponential growth. That's a lot of kits to consume in 2 months.

**I read that the Chinese factories are now on high production for testing kits, but obviously they'll want a lot of those kits for themselves. I wouldn't have a clue what Australia's native kit building capacity is, but I would guess it is poor. In my line of work we literally don't source anything from Australia for lab testing, it all comes from O/S.**

That is a problem in itself. We are lucky that we are an agricultural country. The one thing that we do produce massive amounts of locally is food.
 
I just spoke to a mate from Indonesia. He told me they've been eating bats there for years. My take is that it's not as uncommon a practice as we think it is.
 
@jirskyr said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132025) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1131871) said:
@NT_Tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1131869) said:
Has anyone seen reasons given anywhere, why we are running out of CV19 test kits? Are there more on order? Where are they from etc?
It is apparent that epidemiologists see that as a major problem and we should be testing as many people as possible, but kits are being rationed. Anybody know anything?

Because they are being used world wide, there is currently a pandemic! ;p We have just set up to start producing our own kits!

Yeah the main problem is because COVID-19 kits never existed previously. When the outbreak started they had to develop a test for COVID-19, then when they did (it took 2 weeks), they had to ramp up production. A lot of normal kit supply comes from Asia (China), so not surprising at all that the capacity is impacted.

There have been 200K confirmed COVID-19 cases so far and you'd have to imagine significantly more folks tested - I read an estimate we are up to 1.5M tests globally and there's exponential growth. That's a lot of kits to consume in 2 months.

I read that the Chinese factories are now on high production for testing kits, but obviously they'll want a lot of those kits for themselves. I wouldn't have a clue what Australia's native kit building capacity is, but I would guess it is poor. In my line of work we literally don't source anything from Australia for lab testing, it all comes from O/S.

Yeah, because of our poor manufacturing sector we have actually had to repurpose a couple of manufacturing centres to produce test kits. Similar to the way industry has been repurposed in the world wars!
 
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132044) said:
@jirskyr said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132025) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1131871) said:
@NT_Tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1131869) said:
Has anyone seen reasons given anywhere, why we are running out of CV19 test kits? Are there more on order? Where are they from etc?
It is apparent that epidemiologists see that as a major problem and we should be testing as many people as possible, but kits are being rationed. Anybody know anything?

Because they are being used world wide, there is currently a pandemic! ;p We have just set up to start producing our own kits!

Yeah the main problem is because COVID-19 kits never existed previously. When the outbreak started they had to develop a test for COVID-19, then when they did (it took 2 weeks), they had to ramp up production. A lot of normal kit supply comes from Asia (China), so not surprising at all that the capacity is impacted.

There have been 200K confirmed COVID-19 cases so far and you'd have to imagine significantly more folks tested - I read an estimate we are up to 1.5M tests globally and there's exponential growth. That's a lot of kits to consume in 2 months.

I read that the Chinese factories are now on high production for testing kits, but obviously they'll want a lot of those kits for themselves. I wouldn't have a clue what Australia's native kit building capacity is, but I would guess it is poor. In my line of work we literally don't source anything from Australia for lab testing, it all comes from O/S.

Yeah, because of our poor manufacturing sector we have actually had to repurpose a couple of manufacturing centres to produce test kits. Similar to the way industry has been repurposed in the world wars!

It will be a far harder proposition now ...with the dotting of the I's and crossing of the T's with unions and just about every other Govt dept by the time it gets off the floor the Virus will be ancient history (or we will be )
 
@Earl said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132043) said:
I just spoke to a mate from Indonesia. He told me they've been eating bats there for years. My take is that it's not as uncommon a practice as we think it is.

One of my favourite teaching stories has always been about an islander kid I taught talking about how funny it was watching his mum try to catch a bat in the back yard for dinner! Does not seem so funny anymore!
 
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132045) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132044) said:
@jirskyr said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132025) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1131871) said:
@NT_Tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1131869) said:
Has anyone seen reasons given anywhere, why we are running out of CV19 test kits? Are there more on order? Where are they from etc?
It is apparent that epidemiologists see that as a major problem and we should be testing as many people as possible, but kits are being rationed. Anybody know anything?

Because they are being used world wide, there is currently a pandemic! ;p We have just set up to start producing our own kits!

Yeah the main problem is because COVID-19 kits never existed previously. When the outbreak started they had to develop a test for COVID-19, then when they did (it took 2 weeks), they had to ramp up production. A lot of normal kit supply comes from Asia (China), so not surprising at all that the capacity is impacted.

There have been 200K confirmed COVID-19 cases so far and you'd have to imagine significantly more folks tested - I read an estimate we are up to 1.5M tests globally and there's exponential growth. That's a lot of kits to consume in 2 months.

I read that the Chinese factories are now on high production for testing kits, but obviously they'll want a lot of those kits for themselves. I wouldn't have a clue what Australia's native kit building capacity is, but I would guess it is poor. In my line of work we literally don't source anything from Australia for lab testing, it all comes from O/S.

Yeah, because of our poor manufacturing sector we have actually had to repurpose a couple of manufacturing centres to produce test kits. Similar to the way industry has been repurposed in the world wars!

It will be a far harder proposition now ...with the dotting of the I's and crossing of the T's with unions and just about every other Govt dept by the time it gets off the floor the Virus will be ancient history (or we will be )

We already have a couple of centre producing kits, we are now looking at kits that return a result within 3 hours.
 
@twentyforty said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132019) said:
@TheDaBoss said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132014) said:
@Geo said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132012) said:
@Earl said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1131963) said:
Guys - China is to blame for this outbreak but plenty of other countries have caused outbreaks in the past.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swine_influenza
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_flu
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Central_Luzon_H5N6_outbreak

I think the real question is do we stop eating meat ?

Yeah my bat strew is off the menu..

its a local delicacy in Wuhan.......


Along with scaley mammals

We eat kangaroo ...our coat of arms .....imagine what other countries think of that
 
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132047) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132045) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132044) said:
@jirskyr said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132025) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1131871) said:
@NT_Tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1131869) said:
Has anyone seen reasons given anywhere, why we are running out of CV19 test kits? Are there more on order? Where are they from etc?
It is apparent that epidemiologists see that as a major problem and we should be testing as many people as possible, but kits are being rationed. Anybody know anything?

Because they are being used world wide, there is currently a pandemic! ;p We have just set up to start producing our own kits!

Yeah the main problem is because COVID-19 kits never existed previously. When the outbreak started they had to develop a test for COVID-19, then when they did (it took 2 weeks), they had to ramp up production. A lot of normal kit supply comes from Asia (China), so not surprising at all that the capacity is impacted.

There have been 200K confirmed COVID-19 cases so far and you'd have to imagine significantly more folks tested - I read an estimate we are up to 1.5M tests globally and there's exponential growth. That's a lot of kits to consume in 2 months.

I read that the Chinese factories are now on high production for testing kits, but obviously they'll want a lot of those kits for themselves. I wouldn't have a clue what Australia's native kit building capacity is, but I would guess it is poor. In my line of work we literally don't source anything from Australia for lab testing, it all comes from O/S.

Yeah, because of our poor manufacturing sector we have actually had to repurpose a couple of manufacturing centres to produce test kits. Similar to the way industry has been repurposed in the world wars!

It will be a far harder proposition now ...with the dotting of the I's and crossing of the T's with unions and just about every other Govt dept by the time it gets off the floor the Virus will be ancient history (or we will be )

We already have a couple of centre producing kits, we are now looking at kits that return a result within 3 hours.

Ok ...cool learnt something new today
 
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132051) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132047) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132045) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132044) said:
@jirskyr said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132025) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1131871) said:
@NT_Tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1131869) said:
Has anyone seen reasons given anywhere, why we are running out of CV19 test kits? Are there more on order? Where are they from etc?
It is apparent that epidemiologists see that as a major problem and we should be testing as many people as possible, but kits are being rationed. Anybody know anything?

Because they are being used world wide, there is currently a pandemic! ;p We have just set up to start producing our own kits!

Yeah the main problem is because COVID-19 kits never existed previously. When the outbreak started they had to develop a test for COVID-19, then when they did (it took 2 weeks), they had to ramp up production. A lot of normal kit supply comes from Asia (China), so not surprising at all that the capacity is impacted.

There have been 200K confirmed COVID-19 cases so far and you'd have to imagine significantly more folks tested - I read an estimate we are up to 1.5M tests globally and there's exponential growth. That's a lot of kits to consume in 2 months.

I read that the Chinese factories are now on high production for testing kits, but obviously they'll want a lot of those kits for themselves. I wouldn't have a clue what Australia's native kit building capacity is, but I would guess it is poor. In my line of work we literally don't source anything from Australia for lab testing, it all comes from O/S.

Yeah, because of our poor manufacturing sector we have actually had to repurpose a couple of manufacturing centres to produce test kits. Similar to the way industry has been repurposed in the world wars!

It will be a far harder proposition now ...with the dotting of the I's and crossing of the T's with unions and just about every other Govt dept by the time it gets off the floor the Virus will be ancient history (or we will be )

We already have a couple of centre producing kits, we are now looking at kits that return a result within 3 hours.

Ok ...cool learnt something new today

The defence force is also now being used to assist the production and government has removed the normal medical device approval process because some of our labs have created their own testing that uses different components to what the rest of the world is using!
 
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132053) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132051) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132047) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132045) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132044) said:
@jirskyr said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132025) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1131871) said:
@NT_Tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1131869) said:
Has anyone seen reasons given anywhere, why we are running out of CV19 test kits? Are there more on order? Where are they from etc?
It is apparent that epidemiologists see that as a major problem and we should be testing as many people as possible, but kits are being rationed. Anybody know anything?

Because they are being used world wide, there is currently a pandemic! ;p We have just set up to start producing our own kits!

Yeah the main problem is because COVID-19 kits never existed previously. When the outbreak started they had to develop a test for COVID-19, then when they did (it took 2 weeks), they had to ramp up production. A lot of normal kit supply comes from Asia (China), so not surprising at all that the capacity is impacted.

There have been 200K confirmed COVID-19 cases so far and you'd have to imagine significantly more folks tested - I read an estimate we are up to 1.5M tests globally and there's exponential growth. That's a lot of kits to consume in 2 months.

I read that the Chinese factories are now on high production for testing kits, but obviously they'll want a lot of those kits for themselves. I wouldn't have a clue what Australia's native kit building capacity is, but I would guess it is poor. In my line of work we literally don't source anything from Australia for lab testing, it all comes from O/S.

Yeah, because of our poor manufacturing sector we have actually had to repurpose a couple of manufacturing centres to produce test kits. Similar to the way industry has been repurposed in the world wars!

It will be a far harder proposition now ...with the dotting of the I's and crossing of the T's with unions and just about every other Govt dept by the time it gets off the floor the Virus will be ancient history (or we will be )

We already have a couple of centre producing kits, we are now looking at kits that return a result within 3 hours.

Ok ...cool learnt something new today

The defence force is also now being used to assist the production and government has removed the normal medical device approval process because some of our labs have created their own testing that uses different components to what the rest of the world is using!

Well I gathered that ...they couldn't be about to start human trials already if the normal laws/rules/policies existed
 
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132062) said:
How is the easiest way to track where the Coronavirus victims are in your state when you don't have facebook

Give everyone your address so they can come round to get their emergency toad supplies..
 
Not sure if this covers it @happy_tiger

[QLD Current status and contact tracing alerts](https://www.qld.gov.au/health/conditions/health-alerts/coronavirus-covid-19/current-status/current-status-and-contact-tracing-alerts)
 
@Geo said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132066) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132062) said:
How is the easiest way to track where the Coronavirus victims are in your state when you don't have facebook

Give everyone your address so they can come round to get their emergency toad supplies..

That's Ok ,I've informed everyone where your Pie stash is and Hobbos sausage , bread ,onions and tomato sauce stash is
 
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132070) said:
Not sure if this covers it @happy_tiger

[QLD Current status and contact tracing alerts](https://www.qld.gov.au/health/conditions/health-alerts/coronavirus-covid-19/current-status/current-status-and-contact-tracing-alerts)

Yeah I have access to that page , but when you try and see where the actual cases are you need to be a facebooker

Its annoying because local papers have not been truthful about cases

Last Friday our paper reported cases of corona virus in Rockhampton and Bundaberg which turned out to be BS
 
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1131995) said:
@tigerbalm said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1131993) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1131983) said:
Does it really matter where it started ...it's the world flu now

This is NOT the time to be placing blame ...now is the time to keep everyone around you safe and well and find a solution /vaccine as quickly as possible

It kinda does matter where it started. Not just because it could give some insight into a possible vaccine but to help stop it happening again.

Glad you got the point ...pointing our fingers and saying "he did it" like 9 year olds doesn't help anyone .....

I only just come back from shopping and thought I would check out the forum...

I will totally agree about finger pointing and I think willow said he agreed with Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon this morning about where this came from..fact is this virus came from China ..fact is Gates spoke 12 months ago that we would be hit with a pandemic like this because as someone said we travel all over the world now and are multicultural...he warned of the meatmarkets and questioned hygienic practises back then...eating wildlife brings problems....we are now feeling the full brunt of this which should have been policed properly in recent years especially with opening your country to visitors..
Im not playing the blame game but we were warned and didn't take precautions seriously enough...it also makes you wary when overseas and eating street food that some people love doing,its not for me but each to their own..
 
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132048) said:
@twentyforty said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132019) said:
@TheDaBoss said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132014) said:
@Geo said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132012) said:
@Earl said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1131963) said:
Guys - China is to blame for this outbreak but plenty of other countries have caused outbreaks in the past.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swine_influenza
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_flu
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Central_Luzon_H5N6_outbreak

I think the real question is do we stop eating meat ?

Yeah my bat strew is off the menu..

its a local delicacy in Wuhan.......


Along with scaley mammals

We eat kangaroo ...our coat of arms .....imagine what other countries think of that


I wasn’t inferring it was distasteful to do so. I don’t know what people in other countries think , but I think we should be eating more roo, croc and camel.
 
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