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@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1483469) said:
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1483430) said:
Restaurants have started promoting discounts to the double vaxxed. I'm all for that if it can keep bussiness open. Frankly it's cheaper to allow only vaccinated in then to have to shut for 2 weeks to Deep clean.

The shame is that the fully vaxxed can also spread the virus ...not just the unvaxxed....how will Gladys portray that when the unvaxxed arent allowed their God given freedoms...have a good think about that ...

But you're free to not vaccinate...
Your free choice
 
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1483475) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1483474) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1483473) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1483472) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1483470) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1483469) said:
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1483430) said:
Restaurants have started promoting discounts to the double vaxxed. I'm all for that if it can keep bussiness open. Frankly it's cheaper to allow only vaccinated in then to have to shut for 2 weeks to Deep clean.

The shame is that the fully vaxxed can also spread the virus ...not just the unvaxxed....how will Gladys portray that when the unvaxxed arent allowed their God given freedoms...have a good think about that ...

Vaxxed are less likely to spread it though.

Thats fine but lets wait and see how this goes before she opens fully in Dec...
The unvaxxed wont take this lying down...As for me Im no way an antivaxer,I have had plenty of vacines inserted in me over the years...I have many doubts about an experimental drug with no peer review or approval,only an EUA,which isnt a licensed approval..As for me I was told by my Dr that I could still be in the minority of people to get BLOODCLOTS that I have battled before...I told him that I dont want to become a statistic even though it is a small % ...
Its my choice and I stand by my health first and foremost,my family is important to me and I will look after them through thick and thin,,,EVEN COVID....

What if you become a statistic of Covid?

Check out the VARS website and see the stats for the vaxxed DEATHS and injuries ...it will open your eyes...
As for me ..I have God on my side and if he chooses to take me well and good...I have no fear...

Have you considered Pfizer?

Thats the one the Doc recommended...LET ME BE CLEAR...I have no problem with people who choose to get vaxxesd if they think it will help them...NO PROBLEM AT ALL...I choose what I think is best for me,and as I said earlier I had treatment for bloodclots and it wasnt pleasant....just to let you know,I spent 3/4 months having blood taken twice a week to check my INR levels and a recommended WARPHARIN treatment ...my arms were like dart boards and Warpharin is called rat poison...been there done that....GOD BLESS ALL...
 
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1483477) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1483475) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1483474) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1483473) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1483472) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1483470) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1483469) said:
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1483430) said:
Restaurants have started promoting discounts to the double vaxxed. I'm all for that if it can keep bussiness open. Frankly it's cheaper to allow only vaccinated in then to have to shut for 2 weeks to Deep clean.

The shame is that the fully vaxxed can also spread the virus ...not just the unvaxxed....how will Gladys portray that when the unvaxxed arent allowed their God given freedoms...have a good think about that ...

Vaxxed are less likely to spread it though.

Thats fine but lets wait and see how this goes before she opens fully in Dec...
The unvaxxed wont take this lying down...As for me Im no way an antivaxer,I have had plenty of vacines inserted in me over the years...I have many doubts about an experimental drug with no peer review or approval,only an EUA,which isnt a licensed approval..As for me I was told by my Dr that I could still be in the minority of people to get BLOODCLOTS that I have battled before...I told him that I dont want to become a statistic even though it is a small % ...
Its my choice and I stand by my health first and foremost,my family is important to me and I will look after them through thick and thin,,,EVEN COVID....

What if you become a statistic of Covid?

Check out the VARS website and see the stats for the vaxxed DEATHS and injuries ...it will open your eyes...
As for me ..I have God on my side and if he chooses to take me well and good...I have no fear...

Have you considered Pfizer?

Thats the one the Doc recommended...LET ME BE CLEAR...I have no problem with people who choose to get vaxxesd if they think it will help them...NO PROBLEM AT ALL...I choose what I think is best for me,and as I said earlier I had treatment for bloodclots and it wasnt pleasant....just to let you know,I spent 3/4 months having blood taken twice a week to check my INR levels and a recommended WARPHARIN treatment ...my arms were like dart boards and Warpharin is called rat poison...been there done that....GOD BLESS ALL...

Did your Doctor advice you against Pfizer?
 
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1483469) said:
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1483430) said:
Restaurants have started promoting discounts to the double vaxxed. I'm all for that if it can keep bussiness open. Frankly it's cheaper to allow only vaccinated in then to have to shut for 2 weeks to Deep clean.

The shame is that the fully vaxxed can also spread the virus ...not just the unvaxxed....how will Gladys portray that when the unvaxxed arent allowed their God given freedoms...have a good think about that ...

You know that Glady's can't do anything about it if it's a private business. Plus the companies would lose more money if they had to deep clean. The company I work at would lose 2.6 million. It's actually cheaper for then to lose the non vaxxed clients.
 
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1483484) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1483469) said:
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1483430) said:
Restaurants have started promoting discounts to the double vaxxed. I'm all for that if it can keep bussiness open. Frankly it's cheaper to allow only vaccinated in then to have to shut for 2 weeks to Deep clean.

The shame is that the fully vaxxed can also spread the virus ...not just the unvaxxed....how will Gladys portray that when the unvaxxed arent allowed their God given freedoms...have a good think about that ...

You know that Glady's can't do anything about it if it's a private business. Plus the companies would lose more money if they had to deep clean. The company I work at would lose 2.6 million. It's actually cheaper for then to lose the non vaxxed clients.

Gladys to me is way less conservative than what I would be. It's Sep 30th and we open up on October 11th. She is stating that unvaccinated get their freedoms December 2 or something like that.

I wouldn't allow unvaccinated freedoms until we see how this progresses and it wouldn't be this year.

Each to his own but it's really close to unvaccinated getting freedoms. I don't see the big issue. You wait 2 months and you get the same freedoms plus for whatever reason you get to remain unvaccinated.
 
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1483484) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1483469) said:
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1483430) said:
Restaurants have started promoting discounts to the double vaxxed. I'm all for that if it can keep bussiness open. Frankly it's cheaper to allow only vaccinated in then to have to shut for 2 weeks to Deep clean.

The shame is that the fully vaxxed can also spread the virus ...not just the unvaxxed....how will Gladys portray that when the unvaxxed arent allowed their God given freedoms...have a good think about that ...

You know that Glady's can't do anything about it if it's a private business. Plus the companies would lose more money if they had to deep clean. The company I work at would lose 2.6 million. It's actually cheaper for then to lose the non vaxxed clients.

Good on them....
 
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1483477) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1483475) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1483474) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1483473) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1483472) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1483470) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1483469) said:
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1483430) said:
Restaurants have started promoting discounts to the double vaxxed. I'm all for that if it can keep bussiness open. Frankly it's cheaper to allow only vaccinated in then to have to shut for 2 weeks to Deep clean.

The shame is that the fully vaxxed can also spread the virus ...not just the unvaxxed....how will Gladys portray that when the unvaxxed arent allowed their God given freedoms...have a good think about that ...

Vaxxed are less likely to spread it though.

Thats fine but lets wait and see how this goes before she opens fully in Dec...
The unvaxxed wont take this lying down...As for me Im no way an antivaxer,I have had plenty of vacines inserted in me over the years...I have many doubts about an experimental drug with no peer review or approval,only an EUA,which isnt a licensed approval..As for me I was told by my Dr that I could still be in the minority of people to get BLOODCLOTS that I have battled before...I told him that I dont want to become a statistic even though it is a small % ...
Its my choice and I stand by my health first and foremost,my family is important to me and I will look after them through thick and thin,,,EVEN COVID....

What if you become a statistic of Covid?

Check out the VARS website and see the stats for the vaxxed DEATHS and injuries ...it will open your eyes...
As for me ..I have God on my side and if he chooses to take me well and good...I have no fear...

Have you considered Pfizer?

Thats the one the Doc recommended...LET ME BE CLEAR...I have no problem with people who choose to get vaxxesd if they think it will help them...NO PROBLEM AT ALL...I choose what I think is best for me,and as I said earlier I had treatment for bloodclots and it wasnt pleasant....just to let you know,I spent 3/4 months having blood taken twice a week to check my INR levels and a recommended WARPHARIN treatment ...my arms were like dart boards and Warpharin is called rat poison...been there done that....GOD BLESS ALL...

Zig, I have taken Pfizer because of clotting amalgamation risk. I have been taking Warfarin for 28 years this November. It was recommended by my cardiologist.

I would wager if you've been subject to clots previously you probably have co morbidities and it would be less risky to have the vaccine than take your chances with the virus.

Anyway food for thought mate.
 
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1483472) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1483470) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1483469) said:
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1483430) said:
Restaurants have started promoting discounts to the double vaxxed. I'm all for that if it can keep bussiness open. Frankly it's cheaper to allow only vaccinated in then to have to shut for 2 weeks to Deep clean.

The shame is that the fully vaxxed can also spread the virus ...not just the unvaxxed....how will Gladys portray that when the unvaxxed arent allowed their God given freedoms...have a good think about that ...

Vaxxed are less likely to spread it though.

Thats fine but lets wait and see how this goes before she opens fully in Dec...
The unvaxxed wont take this lying down...As for me Im no way an antivaxer,I have had plenty of vacines inserted in me over the years...I have many doubts about an experimental drug ***with no peer review or approval,only an EUA***,which isnt a licensed approval..As for me I was told by my Dr that I could still be in the minority of people to get BLOODCLOTS that I have battled before...I told him that I dont want to become a statistic even though it is a small % ...
Its my choice and I stand by my health first and foremost,my family is important to me and I will look after them through thick and thin,,,EVEN COVID....

TT, its your decision whether to get vaxxed or not, Im not trying to influence your decision, but I do want to clear something up. YES the vaccines were given EUA (in the US) but that doesnt mean that there was no peer review or trials. The vaccines did go through Phase 1, 2 and partially Phase 3 trials. It is effectively in the middle of one of the biggest Phase 4 trials in the history of Pharmaceuticals. Over 3.5 BILLION people worldwide have received at least one dose. That is a hell of a lot of data. It is also too many people worldwide to keep serious adverse reactions secret. There is unbelievable amount of data on the short term safety of the vaccine and it is clearly overwhelmingly safer in the short term than catching the virus.
 
Got a question all

So Townsville Airport on Friday had the person at the Airport and my sister ,partner and daughter has been notified to stay at home get tested and 24 hours after her test if negative she is free to return to normality

We haven't been notified , but the Toensville Netball girls were all on the same flight as my sister and my daughters team played Townsville on Monday evening

She we be concerned we haven't been contacted by Qld Netball or the Sunshine Coast netball association .....
 
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1483555) said:
Got a question all

So Townsville Airport on Friday had the person at the Airport and my sister ,partner and daughter has been notified to stay at home get tested and 24 hours after her test if negative she is free to return to normality

We haven't been notified , but the Toensville Netball girls were all on the same flight as my sister and my daughters team played Townsville on Monday evening

She we be concerned we haven't been contacted by Qld Netball or the Sunshine Coast netball association .....

You're probably best to ring Queensland Health's COVID enquiry line for advice:

134 COVID (13 42 68).

Ultimately neither of the netball associations are responsible for (or equipped to) conduct contact tracing... but you'd hope that they'll put 2+2 together and pass a statement on to everyone involved to be extra vigilant around isolating and getting tested at the slightest hint of symptoms.

Actually, I'd say it's probably not the worst idea to contact them (QLD Netball / Sunshine Coast Netball Assoc) yourself and let them know of the potential links just in case they're not aware/haven't realised.
 
@pascoes_barber said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1483559) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1483555) said:
Got a question all

So Townsville Airport on Friday had the person at the Airport and my sister ,partner and daughter has been notified to stay at home get tested and 24 hours after her test if negative she is free to return to normality

We haven't been notified , but the Toensville Netball girls were all on the same flight as my sister and my daughters team played Townsville on Monday evening

She we be concerned we haven't been contacted by Qld Netball or the Sunshine Coast netball association .....

You're probably best to ring Queensland Health's COVID enquiry line for advice:

134 COVID (13 42 68).

Ultimately neither of the netball associations are responsible for (or equipped to) conduct contact tracing... but you'd hope that they'll put 2+2 together and pass a statement on to everyone involved to be extra vigilant around isolating and getting tested at the slightest hint of symptoms.

Actually, I'd say it's probably not the worst idea to contact them (QLD Netball / Sunshine Coast Netball Assoc) yourself and let them know of the potential links just in case they're not aware/haven't realised.

Yeah didn't word that well ...I mean through the contact tracers via the QR scanning at the netball stadium
 
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1483561) said:
@pascoes_barber said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1483559) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1483555) said:
Got a question all

So Townsville Airport on Friday had the person at the Airport and my sister ,partner and daughter has been notified to stay at home get tested and 24 hours after her test if negative she is free to return to normality

We haven't been notified , but the Toensville Netball girls were all on the same flight as my sister and my daughters team played Townsville on Monday evening

She we be concerned we haven't been contacted by Qld Netball or the Sunshine Coast netball association .....

You're probably best to ring Queensland Health's COVID enquiry line for advice:

134 COVID (13 42 68).

Ultimately neither of the netball associations are responsible for (or equipped to) conduct contact tracing... but you'd hope that they'll put 2+2 together and pass a statement on to everyone involved to be extra vigilant around isolating and getting tested at the slightest hint of symptoms.

Actually, I'd say it's probably not the worst idea to contact them (QLD Netball / Sunshine Coast Netball Assoc) yourself and let them know of the potential links just in case they're not aware/haven't realised.

Yeah didn't word that well ...I mean through the contact tracers via the QR scanning at the netball stadium

Ah, ok. I wouldn’t expect to hear anything unless someone (involved with the netball) on that flight becomes a confirmed positive case, the stadium only then becomes a contact site.

Disclaimer: not a contact tracer.
 
@earl said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1483492) said:
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1483484) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1483469) said:
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1483430) said:
Restaurants have started promoting discounts to the double vaxxed. I'm all for that if it can keep bussiness open. Frankly it's cheaper to allow only vaccinated in then to have to shut for 2 weeks to Deep clean.

The shame is that the fully vaxxed can also spread the virus ...not just the unvaxxed....how will Gladys portray that when the unvaxxed arent allowed their God given freedoms...have a good think about that ...

You know that Glady's can't do anything about it if it's a private business. Plus the companies would lose more money if they had to deep clean. The company I work at would lose 2.6 million. It's actually cheaper for then to lose the non vaxxed clients.

Gladys to me is way less conservative than what I would be. It's Sep 30th and we open up on October 11th. She is stating that unvaccinated get their freedoms December 2 or something like that.

I wouldn't allow unvaccinated freedoms until we see how this progresses and it wouldn't be this year.

Each to his own but it's really close to unvaccinated getting freedoms. I don't see the big issue. You wait 2 months and you get the same freedoms plus for whatever reason you get to remain unvaccinated.

I’m worried about that home quarantine pilot. I just don’t trust people. It only takes one.
 
@earl said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1483492) said:
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1483484) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1483469) said:
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1483430) said:
Restaurants have started promoting discounts to the double vaxxed. I'm all for that if it can keep bussiness open. Frankly it's cheaper to allow only vaccinated in then to have to shut for 2 weeks to Deep clean.

The shame is that the fully vaxxed can also spread the virus ...not just the unvaxxed....how will Gladys portray that when the unvaxxed arent allowed their God given freedoms...have a good think about that ...

You know that Glady's can't do anything about it if it's a private business. Plus the companies would lose more money if they had to deep clean. The company I work at would lose 2.6 million. It's actually cheaper for then to lose the non vaxxed clients.

Gladys to me is way less conservative than what I would be. It's Sep 30th and we open up on October 11th. She is stating that unvaccinated get their freedoms December 2 or something like that.

I wouldn't allow unvaccinated freedoms until we see how this progresses and it wouldn't be this year.

Each to his own but it's really close to unvaccinated getting freedoms. I don't see the big issue. You wait 2 months and you get the same freedoms plus for whatever reason you get to remain unvaccinated.

The unvaccinated do not want to get to excited there is a proviso to there freedom that 90% have to be fully vaccinated. That is a hard marker that December date was a projection to 90%.
 
@earl said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1483492) said:
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1483484) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1483469) said:
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1483430) said:
Restaurants have started promoting discounts to the double vaxxed. I'm all for that if it can keep bussiness open. Frankly it's cheaper to allow only vaccinated in then to have to shut for 2 weeks to Deep clean.

The shame is that the fully vaxxed can also spread the virus ...not just the unvaxxed....how will Gladys portray that when the unvaxxed arent allowed their God given freedoms...have a good think about that ...

You know that Glady's can't do anything about it if it's a private business. Plus the companies would lose more money if they had to deep clean. The company I work at would lose 2.6 million. It's actually cheaper for then to lose the non vaxxed clients.

Gladys to me is way less conservative than what I would be. It's Sep 30th and we open up on October 11th. She is stating that unvaccinated get their freedoms December 2 or something like that.

I wouldn't allow unvaccinated freedoms until we see how this progresses and it wouldn't be this year.

Each to his own but it's really close to unvaccinated getting freedoms. I don't see the big issue. You wait 2 months and you get the same freedoms plus for whatever reason you get to remain unvaccinated.

By offering a commitment that unvaccinated will get the same freedoms as the vaccinated she just encouraged the people on the fence not to get vaccinated.
 
@chicken_faced_killa said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1483611) said:
@earl said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1483492) said:
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1483484) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1483469) said:
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1483430) said:
Restaurants have started promoting discounts to the double vaxxed. I'm all for that if it can keep bussiness open. Frankly it's cheaper to allow only vaccinated in then to have to shut for 2 weeks to Deep clean.

The shame is that the fully vaxxed can also spread the virus ...not just the unvaxxed....how will Gladys portray that when the unvaxxed arent allowed their God given freedoms...have a good think about that ...

You know that Glady's can't do anything about it if it's a private business. Plus the companies would lose more money if they had to deep clean. The company I work at would lose 2.6 million. It's actually cheaper for then to lose the non vaxxed clients.

Gladys to me is way less conservative than what I would be. It's Sep 30th and we open up on October 11th. She is stating that unvaccinated get their freedoms December 2 or something like that.

I wouldn't allow unvaccinated freedoms until we see how this progresses and it wouldn't be this year.

Each to his own but it's really close to unvaccinated getting freedoms. I don't see the big issue. You wait 2 months and you get the same freedoms plus for whatever reason you get to remain unvaccinated.

By offering a commitment that unvaccinated will get the same freedoms as the vaccinated she just encouraged the people on the fence not to get vaccinated.

“Please know”
“I don’t know but what I do know is”
“To be frank”

Need a pearls of wisdom thread
 
@trentrunciman said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1483617) said:
@chicken_faced_killa said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1483611) said:
@earl said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1483492) said:
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1483484) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1483469) said:
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1483430) said:
Restaurants have started promoting discounts to the double vaxxed. I'm all for that if it can keep bussiness open. Frankly it's cheaper to allow only vaccinated in then to have to shut for 2 weeks to Deep clean.

The shame is that the fully vaxxed can also spread the virus ...not just the unvaxxed....how will Gladys portray that when the unvaxxed arent allowed their God given freedoms...have a good think about that ...

You know that Glady's can't do anything about it if it's a private business. Plus the companies would lose more money if they had to deep clean. The company I work at would lose 2.6 million. It's actually cheaper for then to lose the non vaxxed clients.

Gladys to me is way less conservative than what I would be. It's Sep 30th and we open up on October 11th. She is stating that unvaccinated get their freedoms December 2 or something like that.

I wouldn't allow unvaccinated freedoms until we see how this progresses and it wouldn't be this year.

Each to his own but it's really close to unvaccinated getting freedoms. I don't see the big issue. You wait 2 months and you get the same freedoms plus for whatever reason you get to remain unvaccinated.

By offering a commitment that unvaccinated will get the same freedoms as the vaccinated she just encouraged the people on the fence not to get vaccinated.

“Please know”
“I don’t know but what I do know is”
“To be frank”

Need a pearls of wisdom thread

I’m basing my thoughts on a response to intervention behavioural science model.

In this instance the behaviour we are targeting is people getting vaccinated and the intervention is the incentive of additional activities you can do.

The model works like this:

Tier 1: 80% of people with do the right thing
Tier 2: 15% of people need an intervention (the incentive)
Tier 3: 5% of people need an individualised intervention

For NSW to get to 90% we need to have the intervention to target the Tier 2 people. This is where the people on the fence come from so with the incentive gone we could potentially lose addition people from this group. Hopefully we have successfully moved enough people from this group to get the number as high as possible however taking away the intervention will have an impact.
 
Non vaccinated freedoms should not come in until 95-97% double vaccinated.

Gladys is a dope for letting the non vaccinated off the hook by making an early unnecessary announcement and she needs to admit she made a mistake and fix it as soon as possible.

Unfortunately she seems to be establishing a bit of a history of making poor choices and making stupid irresponsible announcements, makes you wonder how she ever got this far in life?
 
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