Coronavirus Outbreak

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We should wait until the findings of the Police review are known. I believe there is an issue surrounding communications from the ship. Also personal responsibility is an issue.

Personal responsibility is a separate issue though, NSW Health stuffed this up!

The Minister should go for defending those that made the decision to allow the passengers to disembark and also for not setting the correct process and procedures. Also for trying to cover up and blame Boarder Force when it was NSW Health. Those that made the incorrect decision should also go. Their judgment cannot be relied upon. I have zero confidence in NSW Health.

As a whole I think NSW health will do a very good job dealing with this crisis, I think we see we actually have a very good health system after this. I think this stuff up came from an individual under stress making a poor decision. Over the coming months we will see some of our front line medical people make some mistake under immense pressure and I think we need to support them as much as we can as they are about to be smashed for the next 3 months!


I could be totally wrong, but I actually think Australia is going to come out of this better than most countries. If we can keep at or improve the current rates of new cases (approx or less than 200 per day) that should on average be only adding less than 5 - 10 cases to hospital a day. I think that over the next 30 days we will see the peak hitting the hospitals as that large surge washes through, but as individual cases recover (or unfortunately pass away) we should start to see the strain ease on the health system. Based on 5 to 8 days for symptoms to kick in for serious cases, the peak of worst cases should be hitting the hospitals now (5-8 days since the new cases started to dip). Then based on 30 days for recovery or death then we should see the health system strain to start easing.

Im no immunologist or health care expert, simply extrapolating the maths. I think it may be possible that we start to come out of this in a month. Hope Im right.

I agree, I actually see the decisions we make when this starts to ease as important as the decisions we are making now!


I agree. Its hard to envisage an endgame for this. Even if we could flick a magic switch and stop the virus in Australia, the whole of the world is going to be a potential contagion. I can imagine a situation where we are almost able to go back to semi normal life but our borders closed for years.

Closing our borders for years would be great IMO, Australia needs to put a handbrake on immigration for a bit IMO. Cities are straining as it is, a forced go-slow would be a benefit more than a hinderence.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

We should wait until the findings of the Police review are known. I believe there is an issue surrounding communications from the ship. Also personal responsibility is an issue.

Personal responsibility is a separate issue though, NSW Health stuffed this up!

The Minister should go for defending those that made the decision to allow the passengers to disembark and also for not setting the correct process and procedures. Also for trying to cover up and blame Boarder Force when it was NSW Health. Those that made the incorrect decision should also go. Their judgment cannot be relied upon. I have zero confidence in NSW Health.

The morons who went on the cruise after the Japan debacle are to blame. Such a selfish group of people who collectively have put hospital systems in Australia under enormous strain.

 

[hobbo1]

We should wait until the findings of the Police review are known. I believe there is an issue surrounding communications from the ship. Also personal responsibility is an issue.

Personal responsibility is a separate issue though, NSW Health stuffed this up!

The Minister should go for defending those that made the decision to allow the passengers to disembark and also for not setting the correct process and procedures. Also for trying to cover up and blame Boarder Force when it was NSW Health. Those that made the incorrect decision should also go. Their judgment cannot be relied upon. I have zero confidence in NSW Health.

As a whole I think NSW health will do a very good job dealing with this crisis, I think we see we actually have a very good health system after this. I think this stuff up came from an individual under stress making a poor decision. Over the coming months we will see some of our front line medical people make some mistake under immense pressure and I think we need to support them as much as we can as they are about to be smashed for the next 3 months!


I could be totally wrong, but I actually think Australia is going to come out of this better than most countries. If we can keep at or improve the current rates of new cases (approx or less than 200 per day) that should on average be only adding less than 5 - 10 cases to hospital a day. I think that over the next 30 days we will see the peak hitting the hospitals as that large surge washes through, but as individual cases recover (or unfortunately pass away) we should start to see the strain ease on the health system. Based on 5 to 8 days for symptoms to kick in for serious cases, the peak of worst cases should be hitting the hospitals now (5-8 days since the new cases started to dip). Then based on 30 days for recovery or death then we should see the health system strain to start easing.

Im no immunologist or health care expert, simply extrapolating the maths. I think it may be possible that we start to come out of this in a month. Hope Im right.

I agree, I actually see the decisions we make when this starts to ease as important as the decisions we are making now!


I agree. Its hard to envisage an endgame for this. Even if we could flick a magic switch and stop the virus in Australia, the whole of the world is going to be a potential contagion. I can imagine a situation where we are almost able to go back to semi normal life but our borders closed for years.

Closing our borders for years would be great IMO, Australia needs to put a handbrake on immigration for a bit IMO. Cities are straining as it is, a forced go-slow would be a benefit more than a hinderence.

Aussie manufacturing would pick up and there’s no better holiday destination like our own backyard imo

 

[cochise]

We should wait until the findings of the Police review are known. I believe there is an issue surrounding communications from the ship. Also personal responsibility is an issue.

Personal responsibility is a separate issue though, NSW Health stuffed this up!

Personal responsibility is the primary issue. No takers for the cruise, no problem. It is easy to blame the Government when your own poor decision making is the culprit.

The people getting off the ship have themselves to blame, the rest of us who were put at risk have the government to blame as they were the ones responsible for our protection!

 

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We should wait until the findings of the Police review are known. I believe there is an issue surrounding communications from the ship. Also personal responsibility is an issue.

Personal responsibility is a separate issue though, NSW Health stuffed this up!

The Minister should go for defending those that made the decision to allow the passengers to disembark and also for not setting the correct process and procedures. Also for trying to cover up and blame Boarder Force when it was NSW Health. Those that made the incorrect decision should also go. Their judgment cannot be relied upon. I have zero confidence in NSW Health.

As a whole I think NSW health will do a very good job dealing with this crisis, I think we see we actually have a very good health system after this. I think this stuff up came from an individual under stress making a poor decision. Over the coming months we will see some of our front line medical people make some mistake under immense pressure and I think we need to support them as much as we can as they are about to be smashed for the next 3 months!

No one in NSW Health is taking responsibility for this stuff up. Therefore it is likely to happen again with the same dire consequences. Those people I mentioned must go.

Yeah I'm not sure who is doing more handwashing , NSW Health or the poor buggers still stuck on the cruise ships

I’d jump overboard and risk the sharks ..

If the drinks are free it'd be worth waiting it out. The hangover would suck though stuck in the cabin.

 

[happy_tiger]

We should wait until the findings of the Police review are known. I believe there is an issue surrounding communications from the ship. Also personal responsibility is an issue.

Personal responsibility is a separate issue though, NSW Health stuffed this up!

The Minister should go for defending those that made the decision to allow the passengers to disembark and also for not setting the correct process and procedures. Also for trying to cover up and blame Boarder Force when it was NSW Health. Those that made the incorrect decision should also go. Their judgment cannot be relied upon. I have zero confidence in NSW Health.

As a whole I think NSW health will do a very good job dealing with this crisis, I think we see we actually have a very good health system after this. I think this stuff up came from an individual under stress making a poor decision. Over the coming months we will see some of our front line medical people make some mistake under immense pressure and I think we need to support them as much as we can as they are about to be smashed for the next 3 months!

No one in NSW Health is taking responsibility for this stuff up. Therefore it is likely to happen again with the same dire consequences. Those people I mentioned must go.

Yeah I'm not sure who is doing more handwashing , NSW Health or the poor buggers still stuck on the cruise ships

I’d jump overboard and risk the sharks ..

Hobbo you would land on the deck below

Bit like catching a giant Walrus ...coo coo cachoo

 

[Fade.To.Black]

We should wait until the findings of the Police review are known. I believe there is an issue surrounding communications from the ship. Also personal responsibility is an issue.

Personal responsibility is a separate issue though, NSW Health stuffed this up!

The Minister should go for defending those that made the decision to allow the passengers to disembark and also for not setting the correct process and procedures. Also for trying to cover up and blame Boarder Force when it was NSW Health. Those that made the incorrect decision should also go. Their judgment cannot be relied upon. I have zero confidence in NSW Health.

As a whole I think NSW health will do a very good job dealing with this crisis, I think we see we actually have a very good health system after this. I think this stuff up came from an individual under stress making a poor decision. Over the coming months we will see some of our front line medical people make some mistake under immense pressure and I think we need to support them as much as we can as they are about to be smashed for the next 3 months!


I could be totally wrong, but I actually think Australia is going to come out of this better than most countries. If we can keep at or improve the current rates of new cases (approx or less than 200 per day) that should on average be only adding less than 5 - 10 cases to hospital a day. I think that over the next 30 days we will see the peak hitting the hospitals as that large surge washes through, but as individual cases recover (or unfortunately pass away) we should start to see the strain ease on the health system. Based on 5 to 8 days for symptoms to kick in for serious cases, the peak of worst cases should be hitting the hospitals now (5-8 days since the new cases started to dip). Then based on 30 days for recovery or death then we should see the health system strain to start easing.

Im no immunologist or health care expert, simply extrapolating the maths. I think it may be possible that we start to come out of this in a month. Hope Im right.

I agree, I actually see the decisions we make when this starts to ease as important as the decisions we are making now!


I agree. Its hard to envisage an endgame for this. Even if we could flick a magic switch and stop the virus in Australia, the whole of the world is going to be a potential contagion. I can imagine a situation where we are almost able to go back to semi normal life but our borders closed for years.

Closing our borders for years would be great IMO, Australia needs to put a handbrake on immigration for a bit IMO. Cities are straining as it is, a forced go-slow would be a benefit more than a hinderence.

Aussie manufacturing would pick up and there’s no better holiday destination like our own backyard imo

Bloody oath mate, spot on. You get my vote as Minister for Immigration?

 

[pawsandclaws1]

We should wait until the findings of the Police review are known. I believe there is an issue surrounding communications from the ship. Also personal responsibility is an issue.

Personal responsibility is a separate issue though, NSW Health stuffed this up!

Personal responsibility is the primary issue. No takers for the cruise, no problem. It is easy to blame the Government when your own poor decision making is the culprit.

The people getting off the ship have themselves to blame, the rest of us who were put at risk have the government to blame as they were the ones responsible for our protection!

This whole issue resolves around the selfish decisions of 2700 passengers. Why should our brave doctors and nurses have for risk their lives for these types?

 

[innsaneink]

We should wait until the findings of the Police review are known. I believe there is an issue surrounding communications from the ship. Also personal responsibility is an issue.

Personal responsibility is a separate issue though, NSW Health stuffed this up!

The Minister should go for defending those that made the decision to allow the passengers to disembark and also for not setting the correct process and procedures. Also for trying to cover up and blame Boarder Force when it was NSW Health. Those that made the incorrect decision should also go. Their judgment cannot be relied upon. I have zero confidence in NSW Health.

The morons who went on the cruise after the Japan debacle are to blame. Such a selfish group of people who collectively have put hospital systems in Australia under enormous strain.

Which ship was that?

 

[happy_tiger]

We should wait until the findings of the Police review are known. I believe there is an issue surrounding communications from the ship. Also personal responsibility is an issue.

Personal responsibility is a separate issue though, NSW Health stuffed this up!

The Minister should go for defending those that made the decision to allow the passengers to disembark and also for not setting the correct process and procedures. Also for trying to cover up and blame Boarder Force when it was NSW Health. Those that made the incorrect decision should also go. Their judgment cannot be relied upon. I have zero confidence in NSW Health.

The morons who went on the cruise after the Japan debacle are to blame. Such a selfish group of people who collectively have put hospital systems in Australia under enormous strain.

The deals were ridiculous .....one of the other managers I work with parents are cruise nuts ...they were showing deals for two week cruises under $1000 (flights not included )

 

[hobbo1]

We should wait until the findings of the Police review are known. I believe there is an issue surrounding communications from the ship. Also personal responsibility is an issue.

Personal responsibility is a separate issue though, NSW Health stuffed this up!

The Minister should go for defending those that made the decision to allow the passengers to disembark and also for not setting the correct process and procedures. Also for trying to cover up and blame Boarder Force when it was NSW Health. Those that made the incorrect decision should also go. Their judgment cannot be relied upon. I have zero confidence in NSW Health.

As a whole I think NSW health will do a very good job dealing with this crisis, I think we see we actually have a very good health system after this. I think this stuff up came from an individual under stress making a poor decision. Over the coming months we will see some of our front line medical people make some mistake under immense pressure and I think we need to support them as much as we can as they are about to be smashed for the next 3 months!

No one in NSW Health is taking responsibility for this stuff up. Therefore it is likely to happen again with the same dire consequences. Those people I mentioned must go.

Yeah I'm not sure who is doing more handwashing , NSW Health or the poor buggers still stuck on the cruise ships

I’d jump overboard and risk the sharks ..

If the drinks are free it'd be worth waiting it out. The hangover would suck though stuck in the cabin.

I’m sure on a cruise you hand over your cash which the cruise company converts it to US dollars then gives you a plastic card ?
Less risky hanging with happy for a week than going on an ocean going incubator ?

 

[happy_tiger]

We should wait until the findings of the Police review are known. I believe there is an issue surrounding communications from the ship. Also personal responsibility is an issue.

Personal responsibility is a separate issue though, NSW Health stuffed this up!

The Minister should go for defending those that made the decision to allow the passengers to disembark and also for not setting the correct process and procedures. Also for trying to cover up and blame Boarder Force when it was NSW Health. Those that made the incorrect decision should also go. Their judgment cannot be relied upon. I have zero confidence in NSW Health.

As a whole I think NSW health will do a very good job dealing with this crisis, I think we see we actually have a very good health system after this. I think this stuff up came from an individual under stress making a poor decision. Over the coming months we will see some of our front line medical people make some mistake under immense pressure and I think we need to support them as much as we can as they are about to be smashed for the next 3 months!


I could be totally wrong, but I actually think Australia is going to come out of this better than most countries. If we can keep at or improve the current rates of new cases (approx or less than 200 per day) that should on average be only adding less than 5 - 10 cases to hospital a day. I think that over the next 30 days we will see the peak hitting the hospitals as that large surge washes through, but as individual cases recover (or unfortunately pass away) we should start to see the strain ease on the health system. Based on 5 to 8 days for symptoms to kick in for serious cases, the peak of worst cases should be hitting the hospitals now (5-8 days since the new cases started to dip). Then based on 30 days for recovery or death then we should see the health system strain to start easing.

Im no immunologist or health care expert, simply extrapolating the maths. I think it may be possible that we start to come out of this in a month. Hope Im right.

I agree, I actually see the decisions we make when this starts to ease as important as the decisions we are making now!


I agree. Its hard to envisage an endgame for this. Even if we could flick a magic switch and stop the virus in Australia, the whole of the world is going to be a potential contagion. I can imagine a situation where we are almost able to go back to semi normal life but our borders closed for years.

With your graphs ..which I love ...I'm guessing NSW is tracking the highest


I havent specifically been tracking based on states but NSW have 2493 of the 5540 national cases.

Was meaning as a % as in the 1.06


Ah sorry, yeah I havent been tracking that and dont have that data, although I'd have to say that based on the fact that more than half the cases are in NSW, they would have to be pretty close to that number otherwise they'd skew the overall data.

Read today that of the latest lot of travellers that they have quarantined in hotels, there is 120 of them showing symptoms. They were tested two days ago so its likely that tomorrow there could be a bit of a spike.

And the 50 Qantas staff

 

[cochise]

We should wait until the findings of the Police review are known. I believe there is an issue surrounding communications from the ship. Also personal responsibility is an issue.

Personal responsibility is a separate issue though, NSW Health stuffed this up!

Personal responsibility is the primary issue. No takers for the cruise, no problem. It is easy to blame the Government when your own poor decision making is the culprit.

The people getting off the ship have themselves to blame, the rest of us who were put at risk have the government to blame as they were the ones responsible for our protection!

This whole issue resolves around the selfish decisions of 2700 passengers. Why should our brave doctors and nurses have for risk their lives for these types?

Idiots will be idiots, you are not going to change that. It was up to NSW Health to prevent the idiots affecting everyone else!

 

[pawsandclaws1]

We should wait until the findings of the Police review are known. I believe there is an issue surrounding communications from the ship. Also personal responsibility is an issue.

Personal responsibility is a separate issue though, NSW Health stuffed this up!

The Minister should go for defending those that made the decision to allow the passengers to disembark and also for not setting the correct process and procedures. Also for trying to cover up and blame Boarder Force when it was NSW Health. Those that made the incorrect decision should also go. Their judgment cannot be relied upon. I have zero confidence in NSW Health.

The morons who went on the cruise after the Japan debacle are to blame. Such a selfish group of people who collectively have put hospital systems in Australia under enormous strain.

The deals were ridiculous .....one of the other managers I work with parents are cruise nuts ...they were showing deals for two week cruises under $1000 (flights not included )

We all have family or know people who are nurses or doctors having to risk their lives for these twats. It just disgusts me that they now whinge to the press.

 

[Tiger5150]

We should wait until the findings of the Police review are known. I believe there is an issue surrounding communications from the ship. Also personal responsibility is an issue.

Personal responsibility is a separate issue though, NSW Health stuffed this up!

The Minister should go for defending those that made the decision to allow the passengers to disembark and also for not setting the correct process and procedures. Also for trying to cover up and blame Boarder Force when it was NSW Health. Those that made the incorrect decision should also go. Their judgment cannot be relied upon. I have zero confidence in NSW Health.

As a whole I think NSW health will do a very good job dealing with this crisis, I think we see we actually have a very good health system after this. I think this stuff up came from an individual under stress making a poor decision. Over the coming months we will see some of our front line medical people make some mistake under immense pressure and I think we need to support them as much as we can as they are about to be smashed for the next 3 months!


I could be totally wrong, but I actually think Australia is going to come out of this better than most countries. If we can keep at or improve the current rates of new cases (approx or less than 200 per day) that should on average be only adding less than 5 - 10 cases to hospital a day. I think that over the next 30 days we will see the peak hitting the hospitals as that large surge washes through, but as individual cases recover (or unfortunately pass away) we should start to see the strain ease on the health system. Based on 5 to 8 days for symptoms to kick in for serious cases, the peak of worst cases should be hitting the hospitals now (5-8 days since the new cases started to dip). Then based on 30 days for recovery or death then we should see the health system strain to start easing.

Im no immunologist or health care expert, simply extrapolating the maths. I think it may be possible that we start to come out of this in a month. Hope Im right.

I agree, I actually see the decisions we make when this starts to ease as important as the decisions we are making now!


I agree. Its hard to envisage an endgame for this. Even if we could flick a magic switch and stop the virus in Australia, the whole of the world is going to be a potential contagion. I can imagine a situation where we are almost able to go back to semi normal life but our borders closed for years.

Closing our borders for years would be great IMO, Australia needs to put a handbrake on immigration for a bit IMO. Cities are straining as it is, a forced go-slow would be a benefit more than a hinderence.

Tourism is the second biggest contributor to our GDP and foreign funds. Add to that international students and you have a massive shock to the economy.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

We should wait until the findings of the Police review are known. I believe there is an issue surrounding communications from the ship. Also personal responsibility is an issue.

Personal responsibility is a separate issue though, NSW Health stuffed this up!

Personal responsibility is the primary issue. No takers for the cruise, no problem. It is easy to blame the Government when your own poor decision making is the culprit.

The people getting off the ship have themselves to blame, the rest of us who were put at risk have the government to blame as they were the ones responsible for our protection!

This whole issue resolves around the selfish decisions of 2700 passengers. Why should our brave doctors and nurses have for risk their lives for these types?

Idiots will be idiots, you are not going to change that. It was up to NSW Health to prevent the idiots affecting everyone else!

As I wrote previously, the comms from the ship may clarify the issue.

 

[happy_tiger]

We should wait until the findings of the Police review are known. I believe there is an issue surrounding communications from the ship. Also personal responsibility is an issue.

Personal responsibility is a separate issue though, NSW Health stuffed this up!

The Minister should go for defending those that made the decision to allow the passengers to disembark and also for not setting the correct process and procedures. Also for trying to cover up and blame Boarder Force when it was NSW Health. Those that made the incorrect decision should also go. Their judgment cannot be relied upon. I have zero confidence in NSW Health.

The morons who went on the cruise after the Japan debacle are to blame. Such a selfish group of people who collectively have put hospital systems in Australia under enormous strain.

The deals were ridiculous .....one of the other managers I work with parents are cruise nuts ...they were showing deals for two week cruises under $1000 (flights not included )

We all have family or know people who are nurses or doctors having to risk their lives for these twats. It just disgusts me that they now whinge to the press.

If anyone at the end of this deserves a bonus it is the nurses and teachers

Me personally ...I'd be giving them their taxes back for 2020-2021

 

[Tiger5150]

We should wait until the findings of the Police review are known. I believe there is an issue surrounding communications from the ship. Also personal responsibility is an issue.

Personal responsibility is a separate issue though, NSW Health stuffed this up!

The Minister should go for defending those that made the decision to allow the passengers to disembark and also for not setting the correct process and procedures. Also for trying to cover up and blame Boarder Force when it was NSW Health. Those that made the incorrect decision should also go. Their judgment cannot be relied upon. I have zero confidence in NSW Health.

As a whole I think NSW health will do a very good job dealing with this crisis, I think we see we actually have a very good health system after this. I think this stuff up came from an individual under stress making a poor decision. Over the coming months we will see some of our front line medical people make some mistake under immense pressure and I think we need to support them as much as we can as they are about to be smashed for the next 3 months!


I could be totally wrong, but I actually think Australia is going to come out of this better than most countries. If we can keep at or improve the current rates of new cases (approx or less than 200 per day) that should on average be only adding less than 5 - 10 cases to hospital a day. I think that over the next 30 days we will see the peak hitting the hospitals as that large surge washes through, but as individual cases recover (or unfortunately pass away) we should start to see the strain ease on the health system. Based on 5 to 8 days for symptoms to kick in for serious cases, the peak of worst cases should be hitting the hospitals now (5-8 days since the new cases started to dip). Then based on 30 days for recovery or death then we should see the health system strain to start easing.

Im no immunologist or health care expert, simply extrapolating the maths. I think it may be possible that we start to come out of this in a month. Hope Im right.

I agree, I actually see the decisions we make when this starts to ease as important as the decisions we are making now!


I agree. Its hard to envisage an endgame for this. Even if we could flick a magic switch and stop the virus in Australia, the whole of the world is going to be a potential contagion. I can imagine a situation where we are almost able to go back to semi normal life but our borders closed for years.

Closing our borders for years would be great IMO, Australia needs to put a handbrake on immigration for a bit IMO. Cities are straining as it is, a forced go-slow would be a benefit more than a hinderence.

Aussie manufacturing would pick up and there’s no better holiday destination like our own backyard imo

Why would it impact Aussie manufacturing? Freight isnt affected.

 

[Tigerboy]

We should wait until the findings of the Police review are known. I believe there is an issue surrounding communications from the ship. Also personal responsibility is an issue.

Personal responsibility is a separate issue though, NSW Health stuffed this up!

The Minister should go for defending those that made the decision to allow the passengers to disembark and also for not setting the correct process and procedures. Also for trying to cover up and blame Boarder Force when it was NSW Health. Those that made the incorrect decision should also go. Their judgment cannot be relied upon. I have zero confidence in NSW Health.

As a whole I think NSW health will do a very good job dealing with this crisis, I think we see we actually have a very good health system after this. I think this stuff up came from an individual under stress making a poor decision. Over the coming months we will see some of our front line medical people make some mistake under immense pressure and I think we need to support them as much as we can as they are about to be smashed for the next 3 months!


I could be totally wrong, but I actually think Australia is going to come out of this better than most countries. If we can keep at or improve the current rates of new cases (approx or less than 200 per day) that should on average be only adding less than 5 - 10 cases to hospital a day. I think that over the next 30 days we will see the peak hitting the hospitals as that large surge washes through, but as individual cases recover (or unfortunately pass away) we should start to see the strain ease on the health system. Based on 5 to 8 days for symptoms to kick in for serious cases, the peak of worst cases should be hitting the hospitals now (5-8 days since the new cases started to dip). Then based on 30 days for recovery or death then we should see the health system strain to start easing.

Im no immunologist or health care expert, simply extrapolating the maths. I think it may be possible that we start to come out of this in a month. Hope Im right.

I agree, I actually see the decisions we make when this starts to ease as important as the decisions we are making now!


I agree. Its hard to envisage an endgame for this. Even if we could flick a magic switch and stop the virus in Australia, the whole of the world is going to be a potential contagion. I can imagine a situation where we are almost able to go back to semi normal life but our borders closed for years.

Closing our borders for years would be great IMO, Australia needs to put a handbrake on immigration for a bit IMO. Cities are straining as it is, a forced go-slow would be a benefit more than a hinderence.

Aussie manufacturing would pick up and there’s no better holiday destination like our own backyard imo

Pommy!!!

 

[cochise]

We should wait until the findings of the Police review are known. I believe there is an issue surrounding communications from the ship. Also personal responsibility is an issue.

Personal responsibility is a separate issue though, NSW Health stuffed this up!

Personal responsibility is the primary issue. No takers for the cruise, no problem. It is easy to blame the Government when your own poor decision making is the culprit.

The people getting off the ship have themselves to blame, the rest of us who were put at risk have the government to blame as they were the ones responsible for our protection!

This whole issue resolves around the selfish decisions of 2700 passengers. Why should our brave doctors and nurses have for risk their lives for these types?

Idiots will be idiots, you are not going to change that. It was up to NSW Health to prevent the idiots affecting everyone else!

As I wrote previously, the comms from the ship may clarify the issue.

Emails have already shown that the ship told NSW Health they had patients with symptoms they had swabbed and were negative for the flu. NSW Health asked for the swabs so they could test for covid 19 but gave them permission to dock with no restrictions!