Coronavirus Outbreak

[diedpretty]

In today's edition of "Is that true, or did News Limited tell you that?"


Imagine if they had to publish an apology for every other piece of BS they print. There would be no news - it would just be a paper full of apologies.

 

[jadtiger]

In today's edition of "Is that true, or did News Limited tell you that?"


The damage has already been done in the eyes of many.Mud sticks even if it is baseless

 

[Tiger5150]

In today's edition of "Is that true, or did News Limited tell you that?"


Well there you go..

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Multiple News publications ran with similar headlines. Many bodies of the articles did not allude to direct evidence of transmission or contraction at the protests. Inflammatory headlines to stir up negative sentiment.

As already suggested, the mud sticks and Bolt fetishists will continue to run with that.

In saying that, I still believe the protests in the midst of a pandemic were not a wise idea in the slightest. It would have been a hideous outcome to have a bunch of indigenous elders attend, get sick and die.

 

[TillLindemann]

Multiple News publications ran with similar headlines. Many bodies of the articles did not allude to direct evidence of transmission or contraction at the protests. Inflammatory headlines to stir up negative sentiment.

As already suggested, the mud sticks and Bolt fetishists will continue to run with that.

In saying that, I still believe the protests in the midst of a pandemic were not a wise idea in the slightest.

I think that the protests weren't a good idea and they encouraged other people to go out for reasons they hadn't been doing previously (i.e. "if they can protest, why can't I do such and such?"). If they didn't directly cause the spread, they indirectly helped set the foundation for it.

But I also agree that Murdoch's papers always run with an agenda. At the moment they're trying to attack Dan Andrews for being too soft, when a few weeks back they were attacking him for being too hard! (The theme a month ago was: "Hurry up and open the schools Dan! Open up for business!").

 

[pawsandclaws1]

I have to say Dr Kerry Chant and her team exude confidence in chasing down contacts. Her advice that samples from STPs inManhattan confirmed 20% if the population on Manhattan had been exposed to Covid is frightening. Also that Vuc Covud is more contagious.

 

[Tiger5150]

Fox reporting that Nofo, Aloiai and Brett Hodgson sent for COVID testing because they live in Campbelltown area

 

[851]

Aloiai, Nofo and Hodgo sent for testing as they live in the area

 

[Tiger5150]

The interesting thing about The Australian article is that it is probably 100% accurate whilst at the same time possibly being totally misleading.

I'm sure that most people who read that article will think that these irresponsible people went to the BLM march, caught Covid 19 and then spread it through this Melbourne tower block. But of course the article doesn't say that. It says this:

"Health authorities have confirmed a link between two COVID-19 cases in people who attended the Black Lives Matter protest in Melbourne and the public housing tower cluster."

So, some people who went to the BLM march ultimately contracted Covid 19 somewhere and they live in, or are linked to people who live in, the Melbourne tower block.

Now, I can't get through the pay wall to see if that article contains anything more specific but if anyone here can, I'm quite happy to be corrected.

In the meantime I'll rely on the statements made by Prof. Brett Sutton that the genome of the virus detected in this latest outbreak was not present in Australia at the time of the BLM march.

No ambiguity in that statement.

Just do a Google search on the words in the above link, then you should be able to read it after removing the subscription pop up. You will then find as you suspected, in that it is just a further episode of an unsubstantiated narrative to their flock.


Ill give you another chance, what is the narrative and why is it convenient. What is the advantage that anyone gains by incorrectly linking the spikes to the BLM marches? What ideology exactly benefits? Ill ask directly....are you implying (or otherwise) that it is a racist narrative?

Typical from FG, through veiled accusations out without the guts to back it up.

 

[gato]

On the news yesterday they were reporting about a netball competition but the pictures they showed were from a year ago my friends daughter was in the pictures but hasn't been to a netball tournament since the whole covid19 thing started

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Does the Qld Premier live in La la land? Moving the Border South to Banora Pt to ease congestion on the Gold Coast would result in NSW Police having to enforce Qld Govt requirements which includes not allowing residents of Sydney into the Tweed which is NSW. Also, redeploying NSW Police from more urgent tasks such as the crossings from Vic is plan dumb.

I wish she would give a bit more thought to the matter including coming to the realisation that thousands of Qld residents cross the border to party in Byron Bay and other Northern NSW coastal towns. This means contact with Vic residents who haven't acted responsibility potentially bringing the virus back home to Qkd.

 

[Tim Sheens]

Talk prior to the press conference of there being 428 new cases in VIC, so really glad that they put restrictions back in place and hope that the numbers will start retreating in a week or so.

Still it pales in significance when we look to the US that yesterday went back above a thousand deaths in a day for the first time in about a month and averaging close to 70,000 new cases a day over a week.

 

[Hangonaminute]

In Australia, influenza on average causes 1,500 to 3,000 deaths a year.
And life goes on as normal.

As of 17th of July 2020 only 113 people have died of covid19 in Australia
The median age of death is 80
And they put us in lockdown.

Something just doesn't make sense here.

 

[TillLindemann]

In Australia, influenza on average causes 1,500 to 3,000 deaths a year.
And life goes on as normal.

As of 17th of July 2020 only 113 people have died of covid19 in Australia
The median age of death is 80
And they put us in lockdown.

Something just doesn't make sense here.

How many do you think would have died if we'd just carried on as if it was normal? It's insane to argue this is no worse than the flu.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Talk prior to the press conference of there being 428 new cases in VIC, so really glad that they put restrictions back in place and hope that the numbers will start retreating in a week or so.

Still it pales in significance when we look to the US that yesterday went back above a thousand deaths in a day for the first time in about a month and averaging close to 70,000 new cases a day over a week.

CHO yesterday said there will be a death for every 100 diagnosed. This is very sad and Gladys should have locked the border.

 

[Tim Sheens]

Talk prior to the press conference of there being 428 new cases in VIC, so really glad that they put restrictions back in place and hope that the numbers will start retreating in a week or so.

Still it pales in significance when we look to the US that yesterday went back above a thousand deaths in a day for the first time in about a month and averaging close to 70,000 new cases a day over a week.

CHO yesterday said there will be a death for every 100 diagnosed. This is very sad and Gladys should have locked the border.

And probably double that and more if the hospital system is overwhelmed, not to mention those lost through the normal emergency cases.

Apart from the Ruby Princess debacle and to a lesser extent those that pushed for what seemed an obviously slightly early opening, I am not going to be hard on any politician for most things as they/we have all been learning. Having said that, whilst I would prefer to go back into an even harder lockdown than before to try for eradication, they probably won't and I will be far less forgiving in future cases of lax processes, closure etcetera.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Talk prior to the press conference of there being 428 new cases in VIC, so really glad that they put restrictions back in place and hope that the numbers will start retreating in a week or so.

Still it pales in significance when we look to the US that yesterday went back above a thousand deaths in a day for the first time in about a month and averaging close to 70,000 new cases a day over a week.

CHO yesterday said there will be a death for every 100 diagnosed. This is very sad and Gladys should have locked the border.

And probably double that and more if the hospital system is overwhelmed, not to mention those lost through the normal emergency cases.

Apart from the Ruby Princess debacle and to a lesser extent those that pushed for what seemed an obviously slightly early opening, I am not going to be hard on any politician for most things as they/we have all been learning. Having said that, whilst I would prefer to go back into an even harder lockdown than before to try for eradication, they probably won't and I will be far less forgiving in future cases of lax processes, closure etcetera.

Gladys won't go against what Scomo wants. It is a pity about the hotel quaratine issue as we had the opportunity to really be rid if covid.

 

[Tim Sheens]

Back to something that concerned me and others early on in this pandemic, we still have not addressed the causes of aged care workers having to and being allowed to perform duties at two or more facilities and even worse doing so whilst having symptoms.

Great that Victoria has made a $1500 payment available to assist people in self quarantining, but there needs to be more done and as this is a federally regulated area, they need to step up as well.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

In Australia, influenza on average causes 1,500 to 3,000 deaths a year.
And life goes on as normal.

As of 17th of July 2020 only 113 people have died of covid19 in Australia
The median age of death is 80
And they put us in lockdown.

Something just doesn't make sense here.

Yeah open everything up like the US, and you can be staring down the barrel of 150K deaths, when the flu kills 56K seasonally (CDC data.)

113 people dead from 11,233 recorded cases. 1.01% of those who have officially tested positive have died. Not sure what percentage of those people who tested positive are over 60, but all but three deaths were under the age of 60. 3.8 million Australians over the age of 60 are susceptible to this. I don't know what the positive test rate versus deaths are out of that 11,233 but if it's not largely skewed to elderly Australia there's a hideous amount of death waiting for them.

Then you can start a funeral home and buy more bitcoin.

 

[TillLindemann]

In Australia, influenza on average causes 1,500 to 3,000 deaths a year.
And life goes on as normal.

As of 17th of July 2020 only 113 people have died of covid19 in Australia
The median age of death is 80
And they put us in lockdown.

Something just doesn't make sense here.

Yeah open everything up like the US, and you can be staring down the barrel of 150K deaths, when the flu kills 56K seasonally (CDC data.)

113 people dead from 11,233 recorded cases. 1.01% of those who have officially tested positive have died. Not sure what percentage of those people who tested positive are over 60, but all but three deaths were under the age of 60. 3.8 million Australians over the age of 60 are susceptible to this. I don't know what the positive test rate versus deaths are out of that 11,233 but if it's not largely skewed to elderly Australia there's a hideous amount of death waiting for them.

Then you can start a funeral home and buy more bitcoin.

And even though the US has come in for criticism, they have still enacted measures well beyond what they ever have for the flu. Even under the lunatic in Brazil, Brazilian state governments have ordered shutdowns, and ordinary citizens are socially distancing.

Any country that took no measures at all to fight covid would have been massacred.