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@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1289827) said:
@formerguest said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1289821) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1289807) said:
@formerguest said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1289783) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1289716) said:
@shiretiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1289713) said:
Brisbane locked down for 3 days because of 1 case of the new mutant super Coronavirus. Time to shut the borders.

I see Annastacia Moneyszczuk has brought out the sledgehammer again. Obviously no scalpels are available in Queensland, only the sledgehammer in the toolbox.

I expect such a decision to be almost universally welcomed around the nation, as such strains must be removed quickly.

Unfortunately, as the number of infected return travellers increases, breaches will also increase. Even though this strain it is more contagious I’m not convinced that the sledgehammer approach will be effective at removing it in the long term. It is more likely perimeter wall breaches will occur and at an increasing rate so other methods need to be developed. Maybe it’s time to restrict flights from the UK even further and to have quarantine out of the major cities.

My view on quarantine remains that it should have been centrally run by the federal government who's responsibility it has always been from day dot.

Agree. Again though, we are Girt by Sea and having quarantine in major cities is just asking for the inevitable to happen.

We have Xmas island and the huge facility in NT why on earth would you not use them . The country could be virus free by now .. nothing’s perfect but all infections in the last 4 months have been from overseas travellers . This new strain is super infectious and if it gets out all hell will break loose ., politicians are gambling with this one Right and Left of politics.
 
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1289832) said:
@shiretiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1289713) said:
Brisbane locked down for 3 days because of 1 case of the new mutant super Coronavirus. Time to shut the borders.

lock Queensland out Gladys

Do not worry if it gets any worse with this new strain Qld will be on there own !
 
@Cultured_Bogan said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1288824) said:
@Spud_Murphy said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1288818) said:
@sheer64 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1288802) said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq8SXOBy-4w

Heard about Ivomectin being the best solution for Covid from an Aussie doctor about 4 months ago, he was quickly shut down. It’s not in the pharmaceutical companies best interests for everyone to use a drug that’s already so available, they must make their millions (and inflate their egos) rolling out a largely untested new vaccine.

I can’t believe they are holding back the real solution to this pandemic and playing with people’s lives in such an unprecedented time as this. It’s disgusting!

Not calling your claim either way Spud, but I would have thought it would have been in the pharma companies best interests to use an already existing available drug because there is no R&D layout? The outlay for R&D on drugs, especially one required in a hurry like the vaccine for COVID-19 would be ridiculously high. You will still distribute the drugs to any infected patients. If anything, if Ivomectin was merely a way to treat COVID-19 rather than vaccinate against it, it would be in the pharma companies best interests to push for treatment drugs rather than develop a vaccine. Virus runs rampant and you can push as many batches as you like to merely treat it rather than inoculate against it. Perpetual money spinner.

Yeah I see your point CB, but I’m of the belief that the creation, patenting and worldwide rollout of a brand new vaccine will generate a lot more revenue for the pharmaceutical companies in the long run, not to mention it will give them just that little of control also. They are looking at the big picture, imo.
 
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1289832) said:
@shiretiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1289713) said:
Brisbane locked down for 3 days because of 1 case of the new mutant super Coronavirus. Time to shut the borders.

lock Queensland out Gladys

Please Roadblocks now. No fights from QLD allowed.
 
@Papacito said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1288951) said:
@Spud_Murphy said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1288818) said:
@sheer64 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1288802) said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq8SXOBy-4w

Heard about Ivomectin being the best solution for Covid from an Aussie doctor about 4 months ago, he was quickly shut down. It’s not in the pharmaceutical companies best interests for everyone to use a drug that’s already so available, they must make their millions (and inflate their egos) rolling out a largely untested new vaccine.

I can’t believe they are holding back the real solution to this pandemic and playing with people’s lives in such an unprecedented time as this. It’s disgusting!

Not having a personal dig at you, but these types of stories are almost always dodgy.

You've got to highly sceptical when you hear about a one-off doctor being 'shut down'.

It's far more likely that some business council lobby group that wanted to end restrictions rolled out a random bloke to milk a borderline study for all it was worth (see the facts about that one here https://www.nps.org.au/Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective)-and-covid-19)

The 'shut down' thing was most like someone like the AMA telling the bloke to pull his head in and stop pushing untested medicines.

Forgetting the Aussie doctor who told me about it, did you actually watch the video that sheer64 posted?
 
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1289842) said:
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1289832) said:
@shiretiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1289713) said:
Brisbane locked down for 3 days because of 1 case of the new mutant super Coronavirus. Time to shut the borders.

lock Queensland out Gladys

Please Roadblocks now. No fights from QLD allowed.

our Hospitals are for Queenslanders.... NSW residents have nsw hospitals

hard to believe she got voted back in
 
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1289845) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1289842) said:
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1289832) said:
@shiretiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1289713) said:
Brisbane locked down for 3 days because of 1 case of the new mutant super Coronavirus. Time to shut the borders.

lock Queensland out Gladys

Please Roadblocks now. No fights from QLD allowed.

our Hospitals are for Queenslanders.... NSW residents have nsw hospitals

hard to believe she got voted back in

Now Queenslanders will see if she has the right stuff .. hope she has !
 
@Snake said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1289847) said:
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1289845) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1289842) said:
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1289832) said:
@shiretiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1289713) said:
Brisbane locked down for 3 days because of 1 case of the new mutant super Coronavirus. Time to shut the borders.

lock Queensland out Gladys

Please Roadblocks now. No fights from QLD allowed.

our Hospitals are for Queenslanders.... NSW residents have nsw hospitals

hard to believe she got voted back in

Now Queenslanders will see if she has the right stuff .. hope she has !

Because Gladys is just killing it ...you worry about your Premier let us worry about our Premier
 
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1289851) said:
@Snake said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1289847) said:
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1289845) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1289842) said:
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1289832) said:
@shiretiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1289713) said:
Brisbane locked down for 3 days because of 1 case of the new mutant super Coronavirus. Time to shut the borders.

lock Queensland out Gladys

Please Roadblocks now. No fights from QLD allowed.

our Hospitals are for Queenslanders.... NSW residents have nsw hospitals

hard to believe she got voted back in

Now Queenslanders will see if she has the right stuff .. hope she has !

Because Gladys is just killing it ...you worry about your Premier let us worry about our Premier

Even the Indians don’t want to go to Queensland ?
Deadset crap hole ?
 
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1289851) said:
@Snake said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1289847) said:
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1289845) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1289842) said:
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1289832) said:
@shiretiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1289713) said:
Brisbane locked down for 3 days because of 1 case of the new mutant super Coronavirus. Time to shut the borders.

lock Queensland out Gladys

Please Roadblocks now. No fights from QLD allowed.

our Hospitals are for Queenslanders.... NSW residents have nsw hospitals

hard to believe she got voted back in

Now Queenslanders will see if she has the right stuff .. hope she has !

Because Gladys is just killing it ...you worry about your Premier let us worry about our Premier

Gladys has killed it our society is living with it .. now it’s time for you guys to !
 
@Spud_Murphy said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1289844) said:
@Papacito said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1288951) said:
@Spud_Murphy said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1288818) said:
@sheer64 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1288802) said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq8SXOBy-4w

Heard about Ivomectin being the best solution for Covid from an Aussie doctor about 4 months ago, he was quickly shut down. It’s not in the pharmaceutical companies best interests for everyone to use a drug that’s already so available, they must make their millions (and inflate their egos) rolling out a largely untested new vaccine.

I can’t believe they are holding back the real solution to this pandemic and playing with people’s lives in such an unprecedented time as this. It’s disgusting!

Not having a personal dig at you, but these types of stories are almost always dodgy.

You've got to highly sceptical when you hear about a one-off doctor being 'shut down'.

It's far more likely that some business council lobby group that wanted to end restrictions rolled out a random bloke to milk a borderline study for all it was worth (see the facts about that one here https://www.nps.org.au/Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective)-and-covid-19)

The 'shut down' thing was most like someone like the AMA telling the bloke to pull his head in and stop pushing untested medicines.

Forgetting the Aussie doctor who told me about it, did you actually watch the video that sheer64 posted?

I did.

He seemed to believe in it pretty strongly but wanted to shortcut all the usual safety checks that medications have gone through for decades.
 
@hobbo1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1289857) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1289851) said:
@Snake said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1289847) said:
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1289845) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1289842) said:
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1289832) said:
@shiretiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1289713) said:
Brisbane locked down for 3 days because of 1 case of the new mutant super Coronavirus. Time to shut the borders.

lock Queensland out Gladys

Please Roadblocks now. No fights from QLD allowed.

our Hospitals are for Queenslanders.... NSW residents have nsw hospitals

hard to believe she got voted back in

Now Queenslanders will see if she has the right stuff .. hope she has !

Because Gladys is just killing it ...you worry about your Premier let us worry about our Premier

Even the Indians don’t want to go to Queensland ?
Deadset crap hole ?

They will not be going there now .. 2 tests for Sydney YIPPEE!
 
@hobbo1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1289857) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1289851) said:
@Snake said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1289847) said:
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1289845) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1289842) said:
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1289832) said:
@shiretiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1289713) said:
Brisbane locked down for 3 days because of 1 case of the new mutant super Coronavirus. Time to shut the borders.

lock Queensland out Gladys

Please Roadblocks now. No fights from QLD allowed.

our Hospitals are for Queenslanders.... NSW residents have nsw hospitals

hard to believe she got voted back in

Now Queenslanders will see if she has the right stuff .. hope she has !

Because Gladys is just killing it ...you worry about your Premier let us worry about our Premier

Even the Indians don’t want to go to Queensland ?
Deadset crap hole ?

Because we have turned our Gabba into a graveyard for opposition sides


Sides show up at the SCG and know they will lap Australia ...soft ground and soft fans
 
@Snake said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1289866) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1289851) said:
@Snake said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1289847) said:
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1289845) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1289842) said:
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1289832) said:
@shiretiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1289713) said:
Brisbane locked down for 3 days because of 1 case of the new mutant super Coronavirus. Time to shut the borders.

lock Queensland out Gladys

Please Roadblocks now. No fights from QLD allowed.

our Hospitals are for Queenslanders.... NSW residents have nsw hospitals

hard to believe she got voted back in

Now Queenslanders will see if she has the right stuff .. hope she has !

Because Gladys is just killing it ...you worry about your Premier let us worry about our Premier

Gladys has killed it our society is living with it .. now it’s time for you guys to !

How many did we have for SOO


How many have you got for a whole Test ...I rest my case your honour
 
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1289899) said:
Oh look .....Sco Mo and Brendan Nelson is backing Annastacia's call ...because of the unknowns of the new strain of the Virus

Cane toad juice kills covid .. you’ll be ok 👌🏿
 
@hobbo1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1289902) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1289899) said:
Oh look .....Sco Mo and Brendan Nelson is backing Annastacia's call ...because of the unknowns of the new strain of the Virus

Cane toad juice kills covid .. you’ll be ok ??

Better send me one then ..never see them anymore
 
@Papacito said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1289870) said:
@Spud_Murphy said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1289844) said:
@Papacito said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1288951) said:
@Spud_Murphy said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1288818) said:
@sheer64 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1288802) said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq8SXOBy-4w

Heard about Ivomectin being the best solution for Covid from an Aussie doctor about 4 months ago, he was quickly shut down. It’s not in the pharmaceutical companies best interests for everyone to use a drug that’s already so available, they must make their millions (and inflate their egos) rolling out a largely untested new vaccine.

I can’t believe they are holding back the real solution to this pandemic and playing with people’s lives in such an unprecedented time as this. It’s disgusting!

Not having a personal dig at you, but these types of stories are almost always dodgy.

You've got to highly sceptical when you hear about a one-off doctor being 'shut down'.

It's far more likely that some business council lobby group that wanted to end restrictions rolled out a random bloke to milk a borderline study for all it was worth (see the facts about that one here https://www.nps.org.au/Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective)-and-covid-19)

The 'shut down' thing was most like someone like the AMA telling the bloke to pull his head in and stop pushing untested medicines.

Forgetting the Aussie doctor who told me about it, did you actually watch the video that sheer64 posted?

I did.

He seemed to believe in it pretty strongly but wanted to shortcut all the usual safety checks that medications have gone through for decades.

And a vaccine produced in less than six months isn’t a shortcut?

I think his major gripe is that the NIH refuse to even consider the use of Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective) (a known drug) despite its apparent potential to prevent the spread of COVID-19! And you have to ask why.

He and his colleagues aren’t just bozos with an agenda, they are world renowned medicos and scientists who have been at the coal face of this disease since its inception, treating the dying people and constantly researching, checking and testing for a solution. I know where I would rather put my faith.
 
Big changes arising from National Cabinet today

All overseas passengers return a negative Covid test result befor boarding.

Overseas arrivals to NSW, Qld and WA are halved.

Aircrew have to undergo Covid testing and 14 day quarantine.

Greater Brisbande nowA Commonwealth hotspot. No doubt because Qld will have its hand out for $ from NSW which has an economy and earns $ for Aus rather than locking down at the whiff of Covid.
 
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