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@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429263) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429261) said:
@jadtiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429259) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429257) said:
239 cases


That is horrendous

Night curfews in those LGAs of conern is required. Citizens still not doing the right thing.

Will night curfew make a difference?

Yeah I don't think so, I can't speak for the flatlands, but up here there's basically no one but transport on the road after about 7-8pm.
 
@cultured_bogan said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429272) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429263) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429261) said:
@jadtiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429259) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429257) said:
239 cases


That is horrendous

Night curfews in those LGAs of conern is required. Citizens still not doing the right thing.

Will night curfew make a difference?

Yeah I don't think so, I can't speak for the flatlands, but up here there's basically no one but transport on the road after about 7-8pm.

Yeah we are good citizens up here ..
Foot rot flats will always have issues
 
@hobbo1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429273) said:
@cultured_bogan said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429272) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429263) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429261) said:
@jadtiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429259) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429257) said:
239 cases


That is horrendous

Night curfews in those LGAs of conern is required. Citizens still not doing the right thing.

Will night curfew make a difference?

Yeah I don't think so, I can't speak for the flatlands, but up here there's basically no one but transport on the road after about 7-8pm.

Yeah we are good citizens up here ..
Foot rot flats will always have issues

Plus nothing is open after 8pm.
 
@cultured_bogan said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429276) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429273) said:
@cultured_bogan said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429272) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429263) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429261) said:
@jadtiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429259) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429257) said:
239 cases


That is horrendous

Night curfews in those LGAs of conern is required. Citizens still not doing the right thing.

Will night curfew make a difference?

Yeah I don't think so, I can't speak for the flatlands, but up here there's basically no one but transport on the road after about 7-8pm.

Yeah we are good citizens up here ..
Foot rot flats will always have issues

Plus nothing is open after 8pm.

And there’s nothing to do ?
 
@hobbo1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429269) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429236) said:
@innsaneink said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429230) said:
I have to get tested every 3 days now since new protocols were introduced, got tested Tues arvo and still waiting for results and can't work until I get a neg result
Lab immediately mssged me advising 24/48 hours results back when I gave my details... Will be 48 hours about 4pm today
At least the sun's out and we have a backyard ?
I'd go bonkers in a unit with no balcony

I got tested on Tuesday as well and had my results on Tuesday night.

Yeah but your a mod

Yeah just flashed my mod badge and express results for me.
 
@nuggetron said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429231) said:
@innsaneink said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429230) said:
I have to get tested every 3 days now since new protocols were introduced, got tested Tues arvo and still waiting for results and can't work until I get a neg result
Lab immediately mssged me advising 24/48 hours results back when I gave my details... Will be 48 hours about 4pm today
At least the sun's out and we have a backyard ?
I'd go bonkers in a unit with no balcony

i thought you were allowed to work as long as you have proof you were tested?
that's what my job told everyone,
get tested every 3 days, come to work pending results

That's what I thought too... Spoke to a manager today, my company apparently working on a testing roster for everyone... they want to be certain all staff are neg before they return every three days .... I don't see how this roster can be viable though considering factors out of their control = test result time frames
 
@innsaneink said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429282) said:
@nuggetron said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429231) said:
@innsaneink said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429230) said:
I have to get tested every 3 days now since new protocols were introduced, got tested Tues arvo and still waiting for results and can't work until I get a neg result
Lab immediately mssged me advising 24/48 hours results back when I gave my details... Will be 48 hours about 4pm today
At least the sun's out and we have a backyard ?
I'd go bonkers in a unit with no balcony

i thought you were allowed to work as long as you have proof you were tested?
that's what my job told everyone,
get tested every 3 days, come to work pending results

That's what I thought too... Spoke to a manager today, my company apparently working on a testing roster for everyone... they want to be certain all staff are neg before they return every three days .... I don't see how this roster can be viable though considering factors out of their control = test result time frames

Especially at the moment, 110 thousand tests conducted yesterday. That's a ridiculous volume.
 
@innsaneink said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429282) said:
@nuggetron said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429231) said:
@innsaneink said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429230) said:
I have to get tested every 3 days now since new protocols were introduced, got tested Tues arvo and still waiting for results and can't work until I get a neg result
Lab immediately mssged me advising 24/48 hours results back when I gave my details... Will be 48 hours about 4pm today
At least the sun's out and we have a backyard ?
I'd go bonkers in a unit with no balcony

i thought you were allowed to work as long as you have proof you were tested?
that's what my job told everyone,
get tested every 3 days, come to work pending results

That's what I thought too... Spoke to a manager today, my company apparently working on a testing roster for everyone... they want to be certain all staff are neg before they return every three days .... I don't see how this roster can be viable though considering factors out of their control = test result time frames

you will be lucky to get your results before your due again
 
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429149) said:
@tiger-tragic said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429113) said:
Gladbags is a flawed and dangerous person and leader. Stubborn to political ideology, arrogant to deflect any criticism and close minded to any policy settings that have "worked" elsewhere. There is clear evidence that a more stirct and stringent lockdown, implemented after just a couple of delta cases surfaced, would have had this under control by now. Evidence?? Try Victoria and SA. She is leading us to hell in a handbasket. But, just like Scummo, she'll blame it all on 'health advice" and try to convince us she's the saviour.

Guess what Gladbags and Scummo?? We're not buying it. You're cooked. Resign before you cause even more pain for the citizens you purport to represent.

Australia’s approach has been to build a wall and keep the virus out. That approach fails once that wall is breached, and the Delta variant is breaching that wall. Time for a different strategy. My suggestion would be to get everyone vaccinated in the shortest possible time.

The problem with the walls that we rely upon are overwhelmingly dividing rooms and corridors in hotels, from which the virus has emerged on occasions since we have been in the current lockdown and almost certainly will escape again whilst we remain in it.

A collosal failure by our federal government, especially when proper facilities could have easily been operating at the start of this year and then there is vaccine procurement and rollout. At least a couple of former coalition leaders and other senior figures have described the national response as being the greatest public policy failure in their considerable lifetimes.
 
@innsaneink said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429282) said:
@nuggetron said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429231) said:
@innsaneink said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429230) said:
I have to get tested every 3 days now since new protocols were introduced, got tested Tues arvo and still waiting for results and can't work until I get a neg result
Lab immediately mssged me advising 24/48 hours results back when I gave my details... Will be 48 hours about 4pm today
At least the sun's out and we have a backyard ?
I'd go bonkers in a unit with no balcony

i thought you were allowed to work as long as you have proof you were tested?
that's what my job told everyone,
get tested every 3 days, come to work pending results

That's what I thought too... Spoke to a manager today, my company apparently working on a testing roster for everyone... they want to be certain all staff are neg before they return every three days .... I don't see how this roster can be viable though considering factors out of their control = test result time frames

Though great to see they are giving it a red hot go. Good to see responsible entities making up for those that @Papacito mentioned.
 
I'm a huge Gladys fan but I think the NSW government is really struggling with the Delta variant. I can't see any way the lockdown will finish at the end of August. My guess is, given where the numbers are now, the earliest we'll get out is the end of September and even that is doubtful. Even with the best will in the world, vaccination rates will not reach herd immunity levels by the end of August. Maybe by the end of September but highly unlikely.
Big question is will the government try to extend lockdown at the end of August and, if they do, how will the community react.
 
@coivtny said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429310) said:
I'm a huge Gladys fan but I think the NSW government is really struggling with the Delta variant. I can't see any way the lockdown will finish at the end of August. My guess is, given where the numbers are now, the earliest we'll get out is the end of September and even that is doubtful. Even with the best will in the world, vaccination rates will not reach herd immunity levels by the end of August. Maybe by the end of September but highly unlikely.
Big question is will the government try to extend lockdown at the end of August and, if they do, how will the community react.


I doubt if the general community will act at all well.Human nature being what it is even the people(most of us) who understand the need for caution will be peeved.As for the lunatic deniers and conspiracy types they will keep their collective heads where the sun dont shine
 
@jadtiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429315) said:
@coivtny said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429310) said:
I'm a huge Gladys fan but I think the NSW government is really struggling with the Delta variant. I can't see any way the lockdown will finish at the end of August. My guess is, given where the numbers are now, the earliest we'll get out is the end of September and even that is doubtful. Even with the best will in the world, vaccination rates will not reach herd immunity levels by the end of August. Maybe by the end of September but highly unlikely.
Big question is will the government try to extend lockdown at the end of August and, if they do, how will the community react.


I doubt if the general community will act at all well.Human nature being what it is even the people(most of us) who understand the need for caution will be peeved.As for the lunatic deniers and conspiracy types they will keep their collective heads where the sun dont shine

At some point, and I don't know where that is, we are just going to have to open up and let the cards fall where they may. You'd expect that point will be decided by vaccination rates. My view, and plenty will disagree, is that level should be closer to 50% than 75%.
 
@coivtny said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429328) said:
@jadtiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429315) said:
@coivtny said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429310) said:
I'm a huge Gladys fan but I think the NSW government is really struggling with the Delta variant. I can't see any way the lockdown will finish at the end of August. My guess is, given where the numbers are now, the earliest we'll get out is the end of September and even that is doubtful. Even with the best will in the world, vaccination rates will not reach herd immunity levels by the end of August. Maybe by the end of September but highly unlikely.
Big question is will the government try to extend lockdown at the end of August and, if they do, how will the community react.


I doubt if the general community will act at all well.Human nature being what it is even the people(most of us) who understand the need for caution will be peeved.As for the lunatic deniers and conspiracy types they will keep their collective heads where the sun dont shine

At some point, and I don't know where that is, we are just going to have to open up and let the cards fall where they may. You'd expect that point will be decided by vaccination rates. My view, and plenty will disagree, is that level should be closer to 50% than 75%.

Yeah disagree massively with that, needs to be very close to 80%
 
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429332) said:
@coivtny said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429328) said:
@jadtiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429315) said:
@coivtny said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429310) said:
I'm a huge Gladys fan but I think the NSW government is really struggling with the Delta variant. I can't see any way the lockdown will finish at the end of August. My guess is, given where the numbers are now, the earliest we'll get out is the end of September and even that is doubtful. Even with the best will in the world, vaccination rates will not reach herd immunity levels by the end of August. Maybe by the end of September but highly unlikely.
Big question is will the government try to extend lockdown at the end of August and, if they do, how will the community react.


I doubt if the general community will act at all well.Human nature being what it is even the people(most of us) who understand the need for caution will be peeved.As for the lunatic deniers and conspiracy types they will keep their collective heads where the sun dont shine

At some point, and I don't know where that is, we are just going to have to open up and let the cards fall where they may. You'd expect that point will be decided by vaccination rates. My view, and plenty will disagree, is that level should be closer to 50% than 75%.

Yeah disagree massively with that, needs to be very close to 80%

Equally, disagree massively with you. I'm aware of two employers who have organised vaccinations for staff (one a major age care provider) and the voluntary vaccination rate was 75%. One quarter of staff refused to be vaccinated on conscientious grounds. 75% is a total pipedream and represents 100% of willing participants. You won't get 80% unless somebody fudges the figures. 50% represents two thirds of willing participants which will do me.
 
@coivtny said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429337) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429332) said:
@coivtny said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429328) said:
@jadtiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429315) said:
@coivtny said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429310) said:
I'm a huge Gladys fan but I think the NSW government is really struggling with the Delta variant. I can't see any way the lockdown will finish at the end of August. My guess is, given where the numbers are now, the earliest we'll get out is the end of September and even that is doubtful. Even with the best will in the world, vaccination rates will not reach herd immunity levels by the end of August. Maybe by the end of September but highly unlikely.
Big question is will the government try to extend lockdown at the end of August and, if they do, how will the community react.


I doubt if the general community will act at all well.Human nature being what it is even the people(most of us) who understand the need for caution will be peeved.As for the lunatic deniers and conspiracy types they will keep their collective heads where the sun dont shine

At some point, and I don't know where that is, we are just going to have to open up and let the cards fall where they may. You'd expect that point will be decided by vaccination rates. My view, and plenty will disagree, is that level should be closer to 50% than 75%.

Yeah disagree massively with that, needs to be very close to 80%

Equally, disagree massively with you. I'm aware of two employers who have organised vaccinations for staff (one a major age care provider) and the voluntary vaccination rate was 75%. One quarter of staff refused to be vaccinated on conscientious grounds. 75% is a total pipedream and represents 100% of willing participants. You won't get 80% unless somebody fudges the figures. 50% represents two thirds of willing participants which will do me.

Would not be safe to reopen at that point.
 
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429339) said:
@coivtny said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429337) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429332) said:
@coivtny said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429328) said:
@jadtiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429315) said:
@coivtny said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429310) said:
I'm a huge Gladys fan but I think the NSW government is really struggling with the Delta variant. I can't see any way the lockdown will finish at the end of August. My guess is, given where the numbers are now, the earliest we'll get out is the end of September and even that is doubtful. Even with the best will in the world, vaccination rates will not reach herd immunity levels by the end of August. Maybe by the end of September but highly unlikely.
Big question is will the government try to extend lockdown at the end of August and, if they do, how will the community react.


I doubt if the general community will act at all well.Human nature being what it is even the people(most of us) who understand the need for caution will be peeved.As for the lunatic deniers and conspiracy types they will keep their collective heads where the sun dont shine

At some point, and I don't know where that is, we are just going to have to open up and let the cards fall where they may. You'd expect that point will be decided by vaccination rates. My view, and plenty will disagree, is that level should be closer to 50% than 75%.

Yeah disagree massively with that, needs to be very close to 80%

Equally, disagree massively with you. I'm aware of two employers who have organised vaccinations for staff (one a major age care provider) and the voluntary vaccination rate was 75%. One quarter of staff refused to be vaccinated on conscientious grounds. 75% is a total pipedream and represents 100% of willing participants. You won't get 80% unless somebody fudges the figures. 50% represents two thirds of willing participants which will do me.

Would not be safe to reopen at that point.

Define safe, no-one can because there is no such thing as truly safe. If we have 50% of the population fully vaccinated, results will be better than they are today. It's unrealistic to think people won't get sick and that, sadly, some will die. It's a risk-reward question.
 
@coivtny said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429328) said:
@jadtiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429315) said:
@coivtny said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429310) said:
I'm a huge Gladys fan but I think the NSW government is really struggling with the Delta variant. I can't see any way the lockdown will finish at the end of August. My guess is, given where the numbers are now, the earliest we'll get out is the end of September and even that is doubtful. Even with the best will in the world, vaccination rates will not reach herd immunity levels by the end of August. Maybe by the end of September but highly unlikely.
Big question is will the government try to extend lockdown at the end of August and, if they do, how will the community react.


I doubt if the general community will act at all well.Human nature being what it is even the people(most of us) who understand the need for caution will be peeved.As for the lunatic deniers and conspiracy types they will keep their collective heads where the sun dont shine

At some point, and I don't know where that is, we are just going to have to open up and let the cards fall where they may. You'd expect that point will be decided by vaccination rates. My view, and plenty will disagree, is that level should be closer to 50% than 75%.

A lot of experts say that even with an 80% vaccination rate, you need to have restrictions in place for years to minimise spread.

Without it, the unvaccinated 20% could easily overwhelm hospitals.
 
@coivtny said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429343) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429339) said:
@coivtny said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429337) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429332) said:
@coivtny said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429328) said:
@jadtiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429315) said:
@coivtny said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429310) said:
I'm a huge Gladys fan but I think the NSW government is really struggling with the Delta variant. I can't see any way the lockdown will finish at the end of August. My guess is, given where the numbers are now, the earliest we'll get out is the end of September and even that is doubtful. Even with the best will in the world, vaccination rates will not reach herd immunity levels by the end of August. Maybe by the end of September but highly unlikely.
Big question is will the government try to extend lockdown at the end of August and, if they do, how will the community react.


I doubt if the general community will act at all well.Human nature being what it is even the people(most of us) who understand the need for caution will be peeved.As for the lunatic deniers and conspiracy types they will keep their collective heads where the sun dont shine

At some point, and I don't know where that is, we are just going to have to open up and let the cards fall where they may. You'd expect that point will be decided by vaccination rates. My view, and plenty will disagree, is that level should be closer to 50% than 75%.

Yeah disagree massively with that, needs to be very close to 80%

Equally, disagree massively with you. I'm aware of two employers who have organised vaccinations for staff (one a major age care provider) and the voluntary vaccination rate was 75%. One quarter of staff refused to be vaccinated on conscientious grounds. 75% is a total pipedream and represents 100% of willing participants. You won't get 80% unless somebody fudges the figures. 50% represents two thirds of willing participants which will do me.

Would not be safe to reopen at that point.

Define safe, no-one can because there is no such thing as truly safe. If we have 50% of the population fully vaccinated, results will be better than they are today. It's unrealistic to think people won't get sick and that, sadly, some will die. It's a risk-reward question.

We really need to get to herd immunity.
 
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