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Vaccinated or not covid is here to stay & we will all get it eventually
We have been living with viruses for thousands of years & have trillions of viruses in our bodies
 
@jadtiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429418) said:
@dazza65 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429383) said:
@crucible said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429380) said:
With some people, unless I can see it, feel it, taste it or smell it, it's not a threat. The socio-economic reference above is 100% correct. But of course you cant actually say it. Can you????


Make welfare benefits dependent upon it and they would be lined up out the door...


I doubt if there is any link between "welfare benefits" and "covid".That sounds suspiciously like the misinformation that you get from the conspirency peddlars

That isn't what he said though. It's really simple and it's happening all over the world. Australia is way behind on this.

In America and Europe they are announcing more and more restrictions for the unvaccinated and more and more rights and freedoms to the vaccinated. That includes not being able to work.
 
@demps said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429426) said:
@crucible said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429369) said:
The problem with the unvaccinated, is ok they can die, but they spread the bloody thing before they die. It should be compulsory. No jab, no work place access and no Commonwealth benefits. Simple. Do we have to wait till it starts killing kids??????????

Good idea in theory but at the end of the day... people have rights and choices.

Fair enough. In America all people working in veterans affairs have a choice. Get vaccinated or lose your job. In France & Italy if you're not vaccinated you can't go out to a restaurant.

My in-laws (in the Philippines) told us the other day they can go to restaurants because they are vaccinated but no vaccination no restaurants. That is with I think about a 5% vaccination rate.

So you are right about choices. The thing that is changing is peoples rights.
 
I reckon percentage of population being vaccinated is not the correct metric for opening up.
How can it be reasonable to open up before every person in the country (including children) has been given the opportunity to be fully vaccinated?
Once we reach that point I'm happy for lockdowns to cease. Sensible restrictions, such as masks in indoor public spaces and mandatory vaccination for some occupations (e.g. age care workers) should continue.
A decent quarantine system for incoming travellers would need to be in place. Not this hotel quarantine rubbish.
I would also be happy for access restrictions to apply to unvaccinated people. Yep, sure they've got rights, but so do the rest of us and their rights don't outweigh ours
.
 
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429263) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429261) said:
@jadtiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429259) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429257) said:
239 cases


That is horrendous

Night curfews in those LGAs of conern is required. Citizens still not doing the right thing.

Will night curfew make a difference?

Night curfew was used here in Victoria during our long lockdown. It achieved two things:

(1) It sent a very clear message to the community that our government was serious about the restrictions it had put in place. (Something I feel may be lacking in NSW).

(2) It made the job much easier for police. You were either travelling to or from shift work as an essential worker or you were seeking urgent medical attention. There was no other good reason for being out and about.
 
@radoush said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429460) said:
@earl said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429433) said:
@jadtiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429418) said:
@dazza65 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429383) said:
@crucible said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429380) said:
With some people, unless I can see it, feel it, taste it or smell it, it's not a threat. The socio-economic reference above is 100% correct. But of course you cant actually say it. Can you????


Make welfare benefits dependent upon it and they would be lined up out the door...


I doubt if there is any link between "welfare benefits" and "covid".That sounds suspiciously like the misinformation that you get from the conspirency peddlars

That isn't what he said though. It's really simple and it's happening all over the world. Australia is way behind on this.

In America and Europe they are announcing more and more restrictions for the unvaccinated and more and more rights and freedoms to the vaccinated. That includes not being able to work.

Just like the Jews got it here we go again

Disgraceful comment
 
This may be a true story:

A plane has five passengers on board: Donald Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon, the Pope, Dr. Anthony Fauci, Nancy Pelosi, and a ten year old school girl. The plane is about to crash and there is only four parachutes. Dr Fauci, said “I need one, I have to help develop a cure for the global health crisis that is COVID19!” He straps on a parachute and jumps. The pope said “I need one, I have to help spiritually guide people through the global health crisis that is COVID19!” He takes one and jumps. Pelosi said ‘‘I need one, I’m the smartest woman in the United States.” she takes one and jumps. President Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon pauses for a moment and then turns to the 10-year-old. After a deep sigh, he says tenderly, "You can have the last parachute. I've lived my life, yours is only starting". The child replies, "Don’t worry, there are two parachutes left. The smartest woman in the United States took my school backpack.
 
@tigger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429438) said:
I reckon percentage of population being vaccinated is not the correct metric for opening up.
How can it be reasonable to open up before every person in the country (including children) has been given the opportunity to be fully vaccinated?
Once we reach that point I'm happy for lockdowns to cease. Sensible restrictions, such as masks in indoor public spaces and mandatory vaccination for some occupations (e.g. age care workers) should continue.
A decent quarantine system for incoming travellers would need to be in place. Not this hotel quarantine rubbish.
I would also be happy for access restrictions to apply to unvaccinated people. Yep, sure they've got rights, but so do the rest of us and their rights don't outweigh ours
.

And your rights don't out weight there's

Best bet wait till Christmas everyone has had the chance to get the Jab those who don't that's their risk and those who have that's there risk as well let's remember the Nuremberg trials


We won't get to 60 percent let alone 50
 
@radoush said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429469) said:
@tigger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429438) said:
I reckon percentage of population being vaccinated is not the correct metric for opening up.
How can it be reasonable to open up before every person in the country (including children) has been given the opportunity to be fully vaccinated?
Once we reach that point I'm happy for lockdowns to cease. Sensible restrictions, such as masks in indoor public spaces and mandatory vaccination for some occupations (e.g. age care workers) should continue.
A decent quarantine system for incoming travellers would need to be in place. Not this hotel quarantine rubbish.
I would also be happy for access restrictions to apply to unvaccinated people. Yep, sure they've got rights, but so do the rest of us and their rights don't outweigh ours
.

And your rights don't out weight there's

Best bet wait till Christmas everyone has had the chance to get the Jab those who don't that's their risk and those who have that's there risk as well let's remember the Nuremberg trials


We won't get to 60 percent let alone 50

It is not just their risk though, they are risking the health of everyone.
 
@jadtiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429464) said:
@radoush said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429460) said:
@earl said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429433) said:
@jadtiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429418) said:
@dazza65 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429383) said:
@crucible said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429380) said:
With some people, unless I can see it, feel it, taste it or smell it, it's not a threat. The socio-economic reference above is 100% correct. But of course you cant actually say it. Can you????


Make welfare benefits dependent upon it and they would be lined up out the door...


I doubt if there is any link between "welfare benefits" and "covid".That sounds suspiciously like the misinformation that you get from the conspirency peddlars

That isn't what he said though. It's really simple and it's happening all over the world. Australia is way behind on this.

In America and Europe they are announcing more and more restrictions for the unvaccinated and more and more rights and freedoms to the vaccinated. That includes not being able to work.

Just like the Jews got it here we go again

Disgraceful comment

No it's not

Discrimination against non vaccinated is
 
@radoush said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429473) said:
@jadtiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429464) said:
@radoush said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429460) said:
@earl said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429433) said:
@jadtiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429418) said:
@dazza65 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429383) said:
@crucible said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429380) said:
With some people, unless I can see it, feel it, taste it or smell it, it's not a threat. The socio-economic reference above is 100% correct. But of course you cant actually say it. Can you????


Make welfare benefits dependent upon it and they would be lined up out the door...


I doubt if there is any link between "welfare benefits" and "covid".That sounds suspiciously like the misinformation that you get from the conspirency peddlars

That isn't what he said though. It's really simple and it's happening all over the world. Australia is way behind on this.

In America and Europe they are announcing more and more restrictions for the unvaccinated and more and more rights and freedoms to the vaccinated. That includes not being able to work.

Just like the Jews got it here we go again

Disgraceful comment

No it's not

Discrimination against non vaccinated is

If you dont see the difference between genocide and what is being suggested then there is little hope for you
 
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429471) said:
@radoush said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429469) said:
@tigger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429438) said:
I reckon percentage of population being vaccinated is not the correct metric for opening up.
How can it be reasonable to open up before every person in the country (including children) has been given the opportunity to be fully vaccinated?
Once we reach that point I'm happy for lockdowns to cease. Sensible restrictions, such as masks in indoor public spaces and mandatory vaccination for some occupations (e.g. age care workers) should continue.
A decent quarantine system for incoming travellers would need to be in place. Not this hotel quarantine rubbish.
I would also be happy for access restrictions to apply to unvaccinated people. Yep, sure they've got rights, but so do the rest of us and their rights don't outweigh ours
.

And your rights don't out weight there's

Best bet wait till Christmas everyone has had the chance to get the Jab those who don't that's their risk and those who have that's there risk as well let's remember the Nuremberg trials


We won't get to 60 percent let alone 50

It is not just their risk though, they are risking the health of everyone.

Your vaccinated you either believe in the vaccine or you don't

Have you cake and eat it to

I don't discriminate against age race sex religion politics or vaccination your life your choice
 
@radoush said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429479) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429471) said:
@radoush said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429469) said:
@tigger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429438) said:
I reckon percentage of population being vaccinated is not the correct metric for opening up.
How can it be reasonable to open up before every person in the country (including children) has been given the opportunity to be fully vaccinated?
Once we reach that point I'm happy for lockdowns to cease. Sensible restrictions, such as masks in indoor public spaces and mandatory vaccination for some occupations (e.g. age care workers) should continue.
A decent quarantine system for incoming travellers would need to be in place. Not this hotel quarantine rubbish.
I would also be happy for access restrictions to apply to unvaccinated people. Yep, sure they've got rights, but so do the rest of us and their rights don't outweigh ours
.

And your rights don't out weight there's

Best bet wait till Christmas everyone has had the chance to get the Jab those who don't that's their risk and those who have that's there risk as well let's remember the Nuremberg trials


We won't get to 60 percent let alone 50

It is not just their risk though, they are risking the health of everyone.

Your vaccinated you either believe in the vaccine or you don't

Have you cake and eat it to

I don't discriminate against age race sex religion politics or vaccination your life your choice

What an uninformed comment, you do realise there are people who can not be vaccinated?

You do realise that the virus transmitting through unvaccinated people give it a chance to mutate into something that is resistant to vaccines?
 
@jadtiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429418) said:
@dazza65 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429383) said:
@crucible said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429380) said:
With some people, unless I can see it, feel it, taste it or smell it, it's not a threat. The socio-economic reference above is 100% correct. But of course you cant actually say it. Can you????


Make welfare benefits dependent upon it and they would be lined up out the door...


I doubt if there is any link between "welfare benefits" and "covid".That sounds suspiciously like the misinformation that you get from the conspirency peddlars


Not the assumption at all. Response to a previous post about socio economic reference...
 
@iovdatyga said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429429) said:
Vaccinated or not covid is here to stay & we will all get it eventually
We have been living with viruses for thousands of years & have trillions of viruses in our bodies

That so true and when you get it your immune for life
 
My long time ex GF got lupus from a flu jab 20 years ago, so I can understand people's reluctance.

Having said that...the odds of something going wrong are miniscule and the benefits far outweigh the negatives. My wife is a Pharmacist and, reality is, all meds come with risk...

And benefits that generally substantially outweigh those risks.
 
@dazza65 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429485) said:
@jadtiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429418) said:
@dazza65 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429383) said:
@crucible said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429380) said:
With some people, unless I can see it, feel it, taste it or smell it, it's not a threat. The socio-economic reference above is 100% correct. But of course you cant actually say it. Can you????


Make welfare benefits dependent upon it and they would be lined up out the door...


I doubt if there is any link between "welfare benefits" and "covid".That sounds suspiciously like the misinformation that you get from the conspirency peddlars


Not the assumption at all. Response to a previous post about socio economic reference...

I apologise if i have misinterpreted your post
 
@radoush said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429487) said:
@iovdatyga said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429429) said:
Vaccinated or not covid is here to stay & we will all get it eventually
We have been living with viruses for thousands of years & have trillions of viruses in our bodies

That so true and when you get it your immune for life

Mate, please don't post false information, that is not true.
 
@elleryhanley said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429488) said:
My long time ex GF got lupus from a flu jab 20 years ago, so I can understand people's reluctance.

Having said that...the odds of something going wrong are miniscule and the benefits far outweigh the negatives. My wife is a Pharmacist and, reality is, all meds come with risk...

And benefits that generally substantially outweigh those risks.

If your vaccinated why would you want to discriminate against others
 
@radoush said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429492) said:
@elleryhanley said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429488) said:
My long time ex GF got lupus from a flu jab 20 years ago, so I can understand people's reluctance.

Having said that...the odds of something going wrong are miniscule and the benefits far outweigh the negatives. My wife is a Pharmacist and, reality is, all meds come with risk...

And benefits that generally substantially outweigh those risks.

If your vaccinated why would you want to discriminate against others

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