I reckon percentage of population being vaccinated is not the correct metric for opening up.
How can it be reasonable to open up before every person in the country (including children) has been given the opportunity to be fully vaccinated?
Once we reach that point I'm happy for lockdowns to cease. Sensible restrictions, such as masks in indoor public spaces and mandatory vaccination for some occupations (e.g. age care workers) should continue.
A decent quarantine system for incoming travellers would need to be in place. Not this hotel quarantine rubbish.
I would also be happy for access restrictions to apply to unvaccinated people. Yep, sure they've got rights, but so do the rest of us and their rights don't outweigh ours
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And your rights don't out weight there's
Best bet wait till Christmas everyone has had the chance to get the Jab those who don't that's their risk and those who have that's there risk as well let's remember the Nuremberg trials
We won't get to 60 percent let alone 50
No, generally speaking my individual rights don't outweigh anybody else's.
But, on the other hand, our individual rights have always been constrained to ensure that we act in a way that is for the general good of our society.
I have a right to drive a car, but only if I'm duly licensed because it's not in society's best interest for it to be otherwise.
I have a right to perform maintenance on my property, but not if it's electrical or plumbing, unless I'm duly licensed, because it's not in society's best interest for it to be otherwise.
And some time in the future, when we've all had the opportunity to be fully vaccinated against Covid 19, our right to go to restaurants or to events may be constrained by whether or not we have opted to be vaccinated. I won't have a problem with that, because I believe it to be in the best interest of our society.
A mate of mine is a paramedic and has been told that if he is not vaccinated by September he will not lose his job but can not go out in the ambulance to help people and where he works alot of the ambulance paramedics feel the same won't get vaccinated
What's your answer to that ?
The question of whether vaccination should be compulsory for certain categories of workers is certainly a vexed one. It's a debate that we're yet to have because, at the moment, we just don't have sufficient vaccines to do the job anyway. But it's a debate that will be had eventually.
Will vaccination eventually become compulsory for paramedics? I don't know. I have no expertise in that area. I would have thought so, because they would regularly come into contact with people whose immune systems have been compromised. If the question was as simple as "Is the right of a paramedic to remain unvaccinated greater than the right of a patient to stay alive?", then I think the answer would obviously be "No". But I really don't know and there are probably other factors that come into play.
In general terms our individual rights are constrained where they interfere with rights of others to live their lives in a safe environment.
However, in the event that your mate opts to remain unvaccinated he may eventually have to miss out on attending some events, which was the point of my original comments. Compulsory vaccination is another issue altogether.
